[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Robinson
There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install
freedos to and from menu comes up.  Another problem, install freezes at
installing command.com.  Uge!


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Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS

2012-04-03 Thread mike shupp
Alex: I wonder if it would really all that much of a risk if we post links
of copyrighted programs (which are already hosted on other
websites/FTP servers).

Direct links are a No-No.   They tend to die rather quickly, as people
shift stuff around on their hard disks, for example.  Also, it could be
argued that FreeDOS was intentionally promoting piracy by such links.
Better off to just review the software, and at the bottom of the webpage
have a note saying Abandonware games may be found at the following
websites Applications and utilities are at .  FreeDOS makes no
warranty or guarantee that ...


Rugxulo: What was DOS most famous for?

In office software:  Lotus 1-2-3 *and clones), DBase 3 and 3.5,
  Paradox, QuattroPro, Javelin,  MS Project
In word processing:  Brief, Wordperfect,  MS Word, Wordstar,
 XyWrite, NotaBene, PC Outline
In graphics: AutoCad, Harvard Graphics, Corel Draw,  PhotoShop
In mathematics: MathCad, Derive, TKSolver
In programing: MASM, QBASIC, MS C,  Turbo C, Lahey Fortran,
Scheme,  Turbo Pascal, Watcom C, DJGPP
In utilities: Norton, PC Tools, GEM, DesqView, X-Tree, FastBack

This is far from complete!  And most DOS users have a dozen or so utilities
to which they've become accustomed to, almost as natural as breathing -- in
my case, ACD, CED, Flopper, Fog, List, MoSlo, Nansi, PushD, Wc, Zap.   It
actually strikes me listings and reviews of utilities would be far more
enertaining than comparable descriptions of major applications.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-03 Thread Alex
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:45 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote:
 El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió:

 But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux
 programs.
 DOS is a great OS to introduce programming.

 A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near
 total control over your hardware and OS functions.

 And don't forget Lua. It's very simple and quite powerful at the same
 time. An excellent language indeed.

 But it's specifically intended for embedding within other programs as
 a script language.  (There  are an assortment of text editors (like
 SciTE) that embed Lua in that fashion.  You don't write stand-alone
 apps in it.

True, Lua is optimized for being embedded, but you can also write
stand-alone applications. There are lots of extension modules that
give you lots of functionality for everything.

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[Freedos-user] FUSE for FreeDOS

2012-04-03 Thread Alex
Hi

Is there any FUSE implementation for FreeDOS?

Alex

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Re: [Freedos-user] FUSE for FreeDOS

2012-04-03 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi,

AFAIK, there is no fuse for freedos
i don't thing its possible to implement it
not only because of linux-freedos differences
but also many other low level details

Others may enlighten the problems/implications of this...
Eric?
Tom?

See Ya,

Geraldo Netto
Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude
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On 3 April 2012 09:51, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Is there any FUSE implementation for FreeDOS?

 Alex

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Re: [Freedos-user] FUSE for FreeDOS

2012-04-03 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 AFAIK, there is no fuse for freedos

You probably mean user space filesystem drivers...
DOS has no user/admin distinction anyway, and you
can DEVLOAD drivers on the fly. Some are also made
to be unloadable. There are USB drivers and some
drivers for other filesystems, e.g. NTFS or EXT2,
but for example SMB drivers are not great - there
is the totally outdated MSCLIENT (free but eats a
lot of RAM) and there is a port of Samba smbclient
but that does not make a drive letter, it feels a
bit like an interactive text oriented FTP client.

Eric

 Is there any FUSE implementation for FreeDOS?

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Re: [Freedos-user] FUSE for FreeDOS

2012-04-03 Thread Alex
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 You probably mean user space filesystem drivers...
 DOS has no user/admin distinction anyway, and you
 can DEVLOAD drivers on the fly. Some are also made
 to be unloadable. There are USB drivers and some
 drivers for other filesystems, e.g. NTFS or EXT2,
 but for example SMB drivers are not great - there
 is the totally outdated MSCLIENT (free but eats a
 lot of RAM) and there is a port of Samba smbclient
 but that does not make a drive letter, it feels a
 bit like an interactive text oriented FTP client.

Thanks for the very helpful answer, Eric.
Would it be possible to make a generic DEVLOAD driver, for FreeDOS,
based on the FUSE concept, with the ability to use the FUSE modules
from Linux?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-03 Thread Mark Brown
i was thinking along the lines of straight logical thinking,
no sector/segment stuff, just a straight address bus, 
straight data bus and straight memory (and other) bus(es).
and, of course, all this needs to run at an extremely high speed,
and also operate synchronously at that same very, very high speed.
 
that way there would be no bottlenecks to reduce the speed,
with reed-solomon error correction in real time, too!
 
(and the machines stackable for transputing.)
 
(as close to a turing machine as *really* possible,
 incl. no concessions to cost control etc. etc. etc.)

as far as i can see no one is really doing this commercially. 
 aren't economics wonderful? no!

.
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From: Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 6:58 PM



El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: 
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote:

as usual, we all need more and better freeware,
and like the gnu flag says, free thinking...

maybe someday someone will invent an operating system
that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it.
blink

Linux does.  It's open source.  You can get the code and modify it, or
create complete new code.  So does Android (which is based on a Linux
kernel.)  For that matter, the APIs for Windows and OS/X are
[published, and you can create code to run under them.  Thousands of
people do.

Of course, you *do* have to learn to program, and *no* OS can relieve
you of that.
__
Dennis
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519

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But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs.
DOS is a great OS to introduce programming.

A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near 
total control over your hardware and OS functions.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson
plu...@robinson-west.com wrote:

 There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install
 freedos to and from menu comes up.  Another problem, install freezes at
 installing command.com.  Uge!

I'm pretty sure it was agreed upon that it doesn't technically
freeze, it just takes a (relatively) long time at installing
FreeCom, for whatever reason. Just be patient, and it should finish.

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