[Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Sébastien FAVIER
Hello!
I'm intersted by this program MT.COM for execute mutiple dos programs 
(up to 8 programs)
C:\MT prog1.exe + prog2.com + prog3.com ...

My problèm, web sites speak, but i not found on web this .com program..
http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=7105
http://freedos.gds.tuwien.ac.at/freedos/news/technote/172.html


can help me for found this program?

Thank.






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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Sébastien FAVIER 
sebastien.ordinat...@hotmail.fr wrote:

 Hello!
 I'm intersted by this program MT.COM for execute mutiple dos programs
 (up to 8 programs)
 C:\MT prog1.exe + prog2.com + prog3.com ...

 My problèm, web sites speak, but i not found on web this .com program..


It appears that shamrock.de still exists, but indeed there is no (obvious)
link there to download MT anymore. I did forward them your message (via
Contact), so hopefully they will email you directly with a reply.

FYI, I did actually bundle this (but I'm not the author!) in my silly
(old!) RUFFIDEA mini-floppy distro, specifically disk #3:
https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/d3-files.zip?attredirects=0

However, I'm not sure how useful overall the package is. I only very very
lightly used it, and I'm fairly certain it's not for anything but very
simple programs. So it's not equivalent of a Desqview or DR-DOS pre-emptive
multitasker by any means. Thus it's probably not worth playing with very
much, honestly. Also, there's no sources, so you don't even get that joy,
sadly.

If you want some kind of simple multitasking, you can already use
coroutines or similar cooperative threads, even in DOS. Various libs and
examples of such things already exist, e.g. GNU Pth or clwp or protothreads
or SwsMtc. Some languages even support coroutines (or green threads) out of
the box, e.g. Modula-2, Lua, Ruby 1.8, etc. Other languages have simple
bindings (or equivalent functionality), e.g. DX-Forth has MULTI.SCR for
(very) simple swapping between routines.

So, all is not lost, but it's all of limited use. (I'm not trying to be
overly pessimistic here, it's honestly still better than nothing.) As with
anything, you either live with the limitations or try something else
(DOSEMU?).
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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com on Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:23:18 -0500:
 Some languages even support coroutines (or green threads) out of
 the box, e.g. Modula-2, Lua, Ruby 1.8, etc. Other languages have
 simple bindings (or equivalent functionality), e.g. DX-Forth has
 MULTI.SCR for (very) simple swapping between routines.

This is from the Euphoria docs:

Euphoria allows you to set up multiple, independent tasks.
Each task has its own current statement that it is
executing, its own call stack, and its own set of private
variables. Tasks run in parallel with each other. That is,
before any given task completes its work, other tasks can be
given a chance to execute. Euphoria's task scheduler decides
which task should be active at any given time. [..]

Euphoria supports two types of tasks: real-time tasks, and
time-share tasks.

Real-time tasks are scheduled at intervals, specified by a
number of seconds or fractions of a second. You might
schedule one real-time task to be activated every 3 seconds,
while another is activated every 0.1 seconds. [..]

Time-share tasks need a share of the CPU but they needn't be
rigidly scheduled according to any clock. [..]

It's possible to reschedule a task at any time, changing its
timing or its slice of the CPU. You can even convert a task
from one type to the other dynamically.

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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Marco Antonio Achury Palma
Euphoria requires a 386 or higher processor

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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Sébastien FAVIER
Thank you for your reply
For shamrock.de i have received this message :

Hello,
please understand that we no longer offer any DOS-based programs.
 
Regards,
Herwig Feichtinger
Shamrock Software

For disk #3,there is nothing that can interest me about multitasking :/

I program, but if MT.COM is not found, i search a simple exe program for dos as 
MT.COM

I program with FreeBasic for DOS, « if » a runtime or coroutines for this 
compiler, This could help me :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hi,

If I understand correctly, you are looking for the possiblity to run 
several parallel threads from within FreeBASIC.

I recently spotted a nice announcement on the FreeBASIC forum about 
exactly this:

  http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=21274

Haven't tested it myself, but from the description it looks promising.

regards,
Mateusz





On 08/15/2013 06:57 PM, Sébastien FAVIER wrote:
 Thank you for your reply
 For shamrock.de i have received this message :

 Hello,
 please understand that we no longer offer any DOS-based programs.

 Regards,
 Herwig Feichtinger
 Shamrock Software

 For disk #3,there is nothing that can interest me about multitasking :/

 I program, but if MT.COM is not found, i search a simple exe program for
 dos as MT.COM

 I program with FreeBasic for DOS, « if » a runtime or coroutines for
 this compiler, This could help me :)


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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Georg Potthast
Hi Sebastian,

I found the zip-file on my disk and posted it here for you:

https://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/mt-multitasking.zip

Regards

Georg 


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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Sébastien FAVIER
Ho , thank you very much !!! :D
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Re: [Freedos-user] MT.COM not found in internet !! :(

2013-08-15 Thread Robert Riebisch
Georg Potthast wrote:

 I found the zip-file on my disk and posted it here for you:
 
 https://nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos.googlecode.com/files/mt-multitasking.zip

Georg, you're on thin ice:
*** from MT.HTM ***
MT ist Freeware. Shamrock garantiert deshalb nicht die Benutzbarkeit für
bestimmte Einsatzfälle. MT und die zugehörigen Dateien dürfen an Dritte
weitergegeben werden, die Änderung von Urheberrechtsvermerken oder
Textmeldungen der Software ist jedoch nicht zulässig.

Das Kopieren der Software auf andere Web-Seiten als die von Shamrock
oder auf CDROMs ist nur mit ausdrücklicher schriftlicher Genehmigung
gestattet.
***

To be on the safe side, you could offer to send out MT.ZIP by e-mail.
Or ask Shamrock for written permission. :-)

Btw: My copy of MT.ZIP has three additional files MTBAS.LIB, MTBAS.OBJ,
and MTBAS.QLB dated Feb 2004.

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