Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:13:29 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> It supports FAT12/16 and NTFS out of the box, and >> with a patched system file it will support FAT32 also (same goes for >> NT3.51) > > Is the patch officially part of some service pack or is it third-party? > I checked the site where I found it and it says the author is unknown. http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/winnt351.htm -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
With all this talk of really old NTs, is there a reason ReactOS wouldn't work for some of you? -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] loading FreeDos hangs
I tried using RUFUS to make a bootable USB stick. Changed the boot order so the USB stick would be first. Rebooted. Followed the instruction to create a C: drive everything seemed to be going fine until it wasn't. The process halted before I got a DOS prompt. Just a blinking cursor. I'm thinking there may be something going on with this Win 7 computer. It's a refurbished one I got on the cheap. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
Hi, On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM, TJ Edmister wrote: > On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:29:14 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> BTW, NT 4.0 (1996?) didn't support either of those > > NT4 does support LFNs. Not in DOS apps, I meant, no Win9x-era "int 21h, 71xxh", AFAIK. > It supports FAT12/16 and NTFS out of the box, and > with a patched system file it will support FAT32 also (same goes for > NT3.51) Is the patch officially part of some service pack or is it third-party? >> The service packs are free, but the full releases are not. Admittedly, >> it's not that cheap anymore (something like $199 upgrades, on >> average??, IIRC), but there's no other choice (if you want to run >> modern Windows software). Blame all the developers who refuse to >> restrict themselves to a common denominator, so everyone is constantly >> having to upgrade the OS just to support userland stuff. Even latest >> IE won't run on anything less than Win7. > > It's not necessarily even the developers' fault, except that they use > Microsoft's compiler, and hence Microsoft gets to determine the minimum OS > version that things built with their compiler will run on. You'd think XP's APIs would be "good enough" for anything reasonable, after all these years, but no. >> But XP is almost dead. > > XP is still widely used. Who actually still needs support from MS for a > 12-year-old product for any reason other than to say they have it (in > other words, ass-covering)? Surely if someone has been using it this long > then it is getting the job done? Eventually various projects are going to stop supporting it. The same thing happened with Win9x and Win2k. It's not technical reasons, it's not lack of time, it's just apathy. They don't want it to work, thus it won't work. I don't know why, but most developers are very rigid. >> Yeah, modern computing is a mess. > > Maybe if we wish really hard, all the folks who have been making such > messes will forget about desktop computing in favor of consumer > electronics (tablets/phones) and the desktop will become better for it. Doubt it. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 21:37:02 +0100, TJ Edmister wrote: > On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:47:05 -0500, Jack > wrote: >> Opera V7,5, last one that works with Win/NT, and Earthlink dial-up. > > Opera 9.25 can work in NT4, I use it all the time. Browsing with > javascript disabled prevents most ads from loading. The change log for 11.00 beta lists "Opera not working with Windows NT4 SP6a" as one of the issues fixed since 10.63, the previous version. So even later versions might run. But, Jack, you might not want to upgrade from 7.5 straight to 11.00 or newer because it might not preserve your settings, bookmarks, etc. When I upgraded from 9.21 to 12.x, I had to hop through many versions so everything would get preserved (9.50, 9.64, 10.00, 10.60, 11.11, 11.60 - but I use Windows XP). I used a virtual machine to do those experiments. I recommend upgrading at most one major version at a time. I hope you can get 10.00 or newer to run as those versions have a feature called "Opera Turbo" which sends pages through Opera's servers to compress them before you receive them (HTTPS pages are still only between the server and you, so it's secure), which you might find useful. Anyway, Opera has had a content filter at least since the 9.x versions and probably before. You can configure it to block content from URLs matching certain specifications (using wildcards). I have created a list which effectively blocks many ads. Good luck! Matej Horvat http://matejhorvat.si/ PS: Not everyone has a bloated, ad-infested Web site! -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:29:14 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > BTW, NT 4.0 (1996?) didn't support either of those NT4 does support LFNs. It supports FAT12/16 and NTFS out of the box, and with a patched system file it will support FAT32 also (same goes for NT3.51) > > The service packs are free, but the full releases are not. Admittedly, > it's not that cheap anymore (something like $199 upgrades, on > average??, IIRC), but there's no other choice (if you want to run > modern Windows software). Blame all the developers who refuse to > restrict themselves to a common denominator, so everyone is constantly > having to upgrade the OS just to support userland stuff. Even latest > IE won't run on anything less than Win7. It's not necessarily even the developers' fault, except that they use Microsoft's compiler, and hence Microsoft gets to determine the minimum OS version that things built with their compiler will run on. > But XP is almost dead. XP is still widely used. Who actually still needs support from MS for a 12-year-old product for any reason other than to say they have it (in other words, ass-covering)? Surely if someone has been using it this long then it is getting the job done? > > Yeah, modern computing is a mess. Maybe if we wish really hard, all the folks who have been making such messes will forget about desktop computing in favor of consumer electronics (tablets/phones) and the desktop will become better for it. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:47:05 -0500, Jack wrote: > > > Opera V7,5, last one that works with Win/NT, and Earthlink dial-up. > Opera 9.25 can work in NT4, I use it all the time. Browsing with javascript disabled prevents most ads from loading. >> And sorry, but *something* has to pay for those "free" services that >> cost actual time and money to provide, and ads are what pay for them. > > My regret is that the Internet was once "free". Now it only offers > MORE damned ads than U.S. Television! The way I look at it, if ISPs hadn't decided to block servers and stop offering hosting to their customers, then there would be more small personal websites like there once were, and less reliance on bloated, ad-laden corporate sites. Sadly, ISPs have effectively a government-granted monopoly here and are free to reduce service and increase prices all they want, as well as trying to extort third party content providers that compete with their own content. Personally I feel no obligation to look at ads just because somebody decided it would be part of their business model. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Internet tools
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:20 PM, "Jose Antonio Senna" wrote: > On 12-7 dmccunney said: > >Do a ping, whois, traceroute, or nslookup on it. > > They are highly useful tools, and available online > >as well in addition to being local commands. > I have a copy of ping, and know whois as a site > (whois.net), but are the other commands available > for DOS ? Good question. I haven't really looked, because I haven't needed them. I am generally under Windows or Linux. where they are present I don't try to use DOS as my primary system. Too much of what I do simply can't be done under DOS. (And in Windows, I am normally under WinXP, which will run DOS applications in a 16 bit subsystem. I still have a few ancient DOS apps I run, but they run in the subsystem provided by XP. I don't need to boot into actual DOS.) >>You need to learn more about the Internet. >>For instance, blocking those 500K or more of ads is trivial. > How is it possible to block ads in web pages ? Many ads are > not popups. There are several ways, and which you use will depend upon what browser you use. Popups are normally created in JavaScript, and Firefox, at least, disables by default the JavaScript function used to create them. I use Firefox, and do it with an extension. I run an add-on called Stylish. Stylish lets you apply arbitrary CSS, called UserStyles, to pages you view, depending upon the page. Stylish is used to enable Ad Blocking Filterset P, a long CSS style. Filterset P defines a large number of ad servers, and simply doesn't render content fetched from them. Stylish is available for Firefox and Chrome. The most popular method under Firefox is Ad Block Plus. Ad Block Plus uses Filterset P, but also uses JavaScript to scan pages and look for ad content to block. Ad Block Plus can prevent ad content from being downloaded. (I have a fast broadband connection, and don't care about it being downloaded - I just don't want to see it.) Ad Block Plus and things similar are available for Chrome. There are an assortment of browsers based on Qt and Weblit that include optional ad blocking, using CSS like that of Filterset P. I use one called Qupzilla on occasion. If you are using DOS and a DOS based browser, all bets are off. I'm not up on the current state of DOS browsers, but I don't believe there is much support for JavaScript or CSS, so the ad blocking methods I use won't be available. Under DOS, I might try to find and use "mobile" versions of sites, intended for access from things like smartphones, with a much simpler layout and less opportunity to toss ads at you. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
