Re: [Freedos-user] current information on networking with a laptop?
from Eric Auer: As you mention in another mail that this is about wireless network: I am not aware of any new drivers for DOS for wireless network USB sticks, extension cards or similar. However, you could connect your laptop with a short network cable to a small wireless hub or similar. Then you have to carry around the hub, but at least you do not have to have a long network cable from your laptop to your fixed network. DOS drivers for networking via network cable are much easier to find. Regards, Eric Wired Ethernet came long before wireless network, when DOS was much more in use than now. But what about the newer Etherrnet chips for which there is no packet driver? Motherboard is likely to support PXE, might that offer a way to boot FreeDOS with networking capability on a modern Ethernet chip? Tom -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos vs. MS DOS 6.22 for legacy hardware
Hi, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:57 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Just heard about LaTeX here and being curious, just want to understand - It's worth learning about, but DOS is the wrong place to do it. The tools basically don't exist there. If you want to learn about/use LaTeX, you really need to be running Windows or Linux. Just for comparison, there's also Lout and Halibut: http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/djgpp/current/v2apps/lout328b.zip http://www.bttr-software.de/ports/hbt8112b.zip Again, I've not tried these, but they might work better for somebody. -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] defrag
Take a look here, that's the FDNPK online Base repository: ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/base/ Mateusz On 10/06/2014 03:25 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: I understand that the only defrag program that runs on true DOS, meaning not DOS in MS Windows, and that supports FAT32, is the one written for FreeDOS. I also understand that the most current version is 1.3.2. Problem is I cannot find a location to download it. The freedos.org site does not have the current version where I can download it, and google is not my friend, in this case. tia, John -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] current information on networking with a laptop?
Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I run DOS by itself not under another OS. All the so called DOS drivers that I've tried require Windows to be present. Without Windows they don't work. I tried the mode command; the screen stays the same size and the letters get smaller. Some of my software will run full screen when they run. I think they issue a VESA command to do this. Wordperfect, Arachne Pixel run full screen; everything else is mini screen. Dell Latitude computer? With what video card, Intel? Did you check Intel's site? Or only Dell? Did you email their tech support people? Did you search all their related downloads? Can you try asking on their forums (or similar third-party place with people of similar interests, specifically a place for similar hardware users)? http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/software/iegd/intel-embedded-graphics-drivers-overview.html I wish I could tell you something more concrete. But don't get your hopes up. It's just almost impossible to get modern things like this working. The vendors just don't care (much, if at all) for DOS anymore. You'd probably have better luck dual-booting a minimal Linux distro with DOSEMU! On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:14:38 +0200 Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de writes: control screen resolution. FREEDOS runs as a tiny screen in the center - very annoying. I haven't found any dos sound driver Your screen may have a hotkey to zoom to full screen. Fn+F2? -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.
Hi, since my first post got shifted to a different issue for another person. I am sending it again. There was some information on this, a list of modem cards that worked in freedos. I am wondering if this information has been updated, or if it remains current? See below. Karen On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote: In freedos I mean? Has been a while since I asked. still I am considering a freedos experiment for a laptop. I want to know if the tools needed and that work have been investigated of late? laptop only, I have no intention of changing my desktop to freedos. Kare -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] defrag
Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: Problem is I cannot find a location to download [Defrag 1.3.2]. The freedos.org site does not have the current version where I can download it, and google is not my friend, in this case. You didn't look in the right place (obviously??): 1). http://www.freedos.org/ 2). View all software - http://www.freedos.org/software/ 3). BASE - http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base 4). DEFRAG - http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=defrag 5). http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/defrag/ 6). http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/defrag/dfrag132.zip (759 kb) ... or ... a). https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=freedos+defrag -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.
There are few WiFi DOS drivers and probably none of the 2G, 3G, or LTE variety. If you're talking about literal modem card (RJ11), then there are quite a few cards and drivers but few dial-up networks. Few people have kept the info current. Most people these days keep their DOS machines connected via ethernet. And without knowing what machine you're aiming to have this hardware installed on, it's hard to help you. Is it PCMCIA (which version?), USB (not likely to work in DOS), something else? You need to google for it and/or give more info. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi, since my first post got shifted to a different issue for another person. I am sending it again. There was some information on this, a list of modem cards that worked in freedos. I am wondering if this information has been updated, or if it remains current? See below. Karen On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote: In freedos I mean? Has been a while since I asked. still I am considering a freedos experiment for a laptop. I want to know if the tools needed and that work have been investigated of late? laptop only, I have no intention of changing my desktop to freedos. Kare -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.
This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS: http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.
fair point. it is an IBM thinkpad 600x which is a p3. presently it has ms dos 7.10. As for what most people do...in my dictionary there is no such thing as most people, smiles. I would likely get more than one card, wired connecting via Ethernet and wireless. However I intend this machine for road working and have yet to find a cable long enough for that sort of thing smiles. Kare On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Louis Santillan wrote: There are few WiFi DOS drivers and probably none of the 2G, 3G, or LTE variety. If you're talking about literal modem card (RJ11), then there are quite a few cards and drivers but few dial-up networks. Few people have kept the info current. Most people these days keep their DOS machines connected via ethernet. And without knowing what machine you're aiming to have this hardware installed on, it's hard to help you. Is it PCMCIA (which version?), USB (not likely to work in DOS), something else? You need to google for it and/or give more info. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi, since my first post got shifted to a different issue for another person. I am sending it again. There was some information on this, a list of modem cards that worked in freedos. I am wondering if this information has been updated, or if it remains current? See below. Karen On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote: In freedos I mean? Has been a while since I asked. still I am considering a freedos experiment for a laptop. I want to know if the tools needed and that work have been investigated of late? laptop only, I have no intention of changing my desktop to freedos. Kare -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.
That approach is faking it but it works and it sidesteps the questions about wireless drivers, encryption, etc. On Oct 6, 2014 9:52 AM, Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si wrote: This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS: http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] current information on networking with a laptop?
I have the Arachne source code. If I get a chance someday to read it; perhaps I can figure out how they did it. Other than that I'll just have to get use to mini screens. cheers DS On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:17:24 -0500 Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I run DOS by itself not under another OS. All the so called DOS drivers that I've tried require Windows to be present. Without Windows they don't work. I tried the mode command; the screen stays the same size and the letters get smaller. Some of my software will run full screen when they run. I think they issue a VESA command to do this. Wordperfect, Arachne Pixel run full screen; everything else is mini screen. Dell Latitude computer? With what video card, Intel? Did you check Intel's site? Or only Dell? Did you email their tech support people? Did you search all their related downloads? Can you try asking on their forums (or similar third-party place with people of similar interests, specifically a place for similar hardware users)? http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/software/iegd/intel-embed ded-graphics-drivers-overview.html I wish I could tell you something more concrete. But don't get your hopes up. It's just almost impossible to get modern things like this working. The vendors just don't care (much, if at all) for DOS anymore. You'd probably have better luck dual-booting a minimal Linux distro with DOSEMU! On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:14:38 +0200 Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de writes: control screen resolution. FREEDOS runs as a tiny screen in the center - very annoying. I haven't found any dos sound driver Your screen may have a hotkey to zoom to full screen. Fn+F2? - - Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clk trk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Who Had Plastic Surgery? Do YOU Know Which Celebrities Had Plastic Surgery? #14 Will Blow Your Mind! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/54332e4241fd2e427891mp02duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] defrag
Hi, I understand that the only defrag program that runs on true DOS, meaning not DOS in MS Windows, and that supports FAT32, is the one written for FreeDOS. I also understand that the most current version is 1.3.2. Does it really support FAT32? I thought it didn't. Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] defrag
On 10/06/2014 10:03 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: Hi, I understand that the only defrag program that runs on true DOS, meaning not DOS in MS Windows, and that supports FAT32, is the one written for FreeDOS. I also understand that the most current version is 1.3.2. Does it really support FAT32? I thought it didn't. Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user well, ... I have version 1.3.1 installed. The current version is 1.3.2. My version says that my disk is fine and only does the quick try. The other options are grayed out. There is lots of empty space before the programs on the defrag image on the screen. I'm holding out hope for 1.3.2. I might say that 1.3.1 does not crash, and that drive is fat32, but as to whether it is really defragging, I don't know. Unfortunately, the author doesn't discuss these issues. As others have said, maybe the answer is to copy all the files to a usb stick, and then format the hd, reinstall the os, then copy the directory structure back. All for my 'neat freak' attitude of defragging. John -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
