Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

Hi,
Yes, I've heard of the Reading Edge. I was aware of the fact that it used 
DECtalk, but I didn't know it could act as an external synthesizer.
TextAssist doesn't require dosbox, it just needs a SoundBlaster. I meant that 
the talking dosbox package included the synthesizer. You can probably get the 
files out.

> On 19 Feb 2016, at 02:50, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I do not use dosbox.  my dos setup is strictly dos, so if the textaccess 
> thing requires dosbox it will not work.
> My tie to dec is in a reading edge a stand alone scanner built by xerox that 
> also has the synthesizer  option.
> I have never required emulation as I expressed before.
> I will ask  on some other survival pc  lists about spain.  If you are 
> reasonably urban, there might be a freecycle.org group for the hardware.
> will write off list too as I am now wondering about the Spanish.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
> 
>> TextAssist is not too hard to find. You can get a pre-built dosbox with Win 
>> 3.1 and TextAssist somewhere in grossgang.com. He has a lot of old DOS 
>> access software.
>> I'm in Spain, so that would probably be kind of a problem. :)
>> I'm guessing you're using an external DECtalk synthesizer 
>> (card/stand-alone)? Have you had it for a long time or did you get it from 
>> any place in particular? I've been collecting these things for a while now 
>> and I'd love to get hold of a few more.
>> I don't know if this might be getting a bit off-topic. Feel free to E-Mail 
>> me offlist if that's the case. I don't usually post on here so I don't know 
>> what's really acceptable. :D
>> 
>>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 02:34, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use dectalk every day smiles.
>>> where are you located?  Somewhere I have contact information for a person 
>>> stateside who can build the machine for you, port included.
>>> Is it still possible to find textaccess  anywhere?
>>> might be a fun laptop option.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, ever since I realized DOSUSB wasn't going to help me and VSB would 
>>>> not run any tts software I've been thinking of getting a dedicated machine 
>>>> for DOS but I don't really know where to look. Does anyone know of 
>>>> something not too expensive that has at least one RS232 port and a 
>>>> SoundBlaster-compatible card?
>>>> The quality is pretty OK. SBTalker has a low sampling rate but doesn't 
>>>> sound too bad, TextAssist sounds just like DECtalk if you've ever heard 
>>>> that one, and Monologue sounds terrible to me but it's usable although I 
>>>> never got it to load under DOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:53, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh okay.
>>>>> I have no idea, it might I believe someone  suggested asking on the 
>>>>> source list for it.
>>>>> I have always gotten my machines custom built, one can still find those 
>>>>> with cereal ports.  as I use dos exclusively It has been worth it to me 
>>>>> to keep the door open.
>>>>> I did not know all those sound card options existed might be fun to play 
>>>>> with them, assuming the sound quality is clear enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do, but none of the computers that I have have a serial port. I was 
>>>>>> hoping that this would be an alternative but I guess not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Understood,
>>>>>>> May I ask what the problem is then?  Do you not have an external 
>>>>>>> synthesizer?
>>>>>>> I do not use freedos, but a later  package of ms dos 7.1  I have no 
>>>>>>> issues, but I am not using a sound card.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have heard about talking dosbox, in fact I helped with the project 
>>>>>>>> and I made one of the speech synthesis helper applications, but I was 
>>>

Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

TextAssist is not too hard to find. You can get a pre-built dosbox with Win 3.1 
and TextAssist somewhere in grossgang.com. He has a lot of old DOS access 
software.
I'm in Spain, so that would probably be kind of a problem. :)
I'm guessing you're using an external DECtalk synthesizer (card/stand-alone)? 
Have you had it for a long time or did you get it from any place in particular? 
I've been collecting these things for a while now and I'd love to get hold of a 
few more.
I don't know if this might be getting a bit off-topic. Feel free to E-Mail me 
offlist if that's the case. I don't usually post on here so I don't know what's 
really acceptable. :D

> On 19 Feb 2016, at 02:34, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> I use dectalk every day smiles.
> where are you located?  Somewhere I have contact information for a person 
> stateside who can build the machine for you, port included.
> Is it still possible to find textaccess  anywhere?
> might be a fun laptop option.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, ever since I realized DOSUSB wasn't going to help me and VSB would not 
>> run any tts software I've been thinking of getting a dedicated machine for 
>> DOS but I don't really know where to look. Does anyone know of something not 
>> too expensive that has at least one RS232 port and a SoundBlaster-compatible 
>> card?
>> The quality is pretty OK. SBTalker has a low sampling rate but doesn't sound 
>> too bad, TextAssist sounds just like DECtalk if you've ever heard that one, 
>> and Monologue sounds terrible to me but it's usable although I never got it 
>> to load under DOS.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:53, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh okay.
>>> I have no idea, it might I believe someone  suggested asking on the source 
>>> list for it.
>>> I have always gotten my machines custom built, one can still find those 
>>> with cereal ports.  as I use dos exclusively It has been worth it to me to 
>>> keep the door open.
>>> I did not know all those sound card options existed might be fun to play 
>>> with them, assuming the sound quality is clear enough.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do, but none of the computers that I have have a serial port. I was 
>>>> hoping that this would be an alternative but I guess not.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Understood,
>>>>> May I ask what the problem is then?  Do you not have an external 
>>>>> synthesizer?
>>>>> I do not use freedos, but a later  package of ms dos 7.1  I have no 
>>>>> issues, but I am not using a sound card.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have heard about talking dosbox, in fact I helped with the project and 
>>>>>> I made one of the speech synthesis helper applications, but I was hoping 
>>>>>> to be able to have dos running natively without emulation. I have no 
>>>>>> sight whatsoever so I need speech output, and the only ways of speech 
>>>>>> output available are through serial with an external speech synthesizer 
>>>>>> or via a SoundBlaster or compatible with SBTalker, Monologue, TextAssist 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Guillem,
>>>>>>> granted I am unsure what your goals may be, but have you tried  a 
>>>>>>> relatively new project talking dosbox?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/00_README.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can tell you nothing about it save that  it is supposed to allow for 
>>>>>>> speech via dosbox using the sound card etc.
>>>>>>> hope this presents a solution for you.
>>>>>>> karen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> Yeah, only reason I asked is because rig

Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

Yeah, ever since I realized DOSUSB wasn't going to help me and VSB would not 
run any tts software I've been thinking of getting a dedicated machine for DOS 
but I don't really know where to look. Does anyone know of something not too 
expensive that has at least one RS232 port and a SoundBlaster-compatible card?
The quality is pretty OK. SBTalker has a low sampling rate but doesn't sound 
too bad, TextAssist sounds just like DECtalk if you've ever heard that one, and 
Monologue sounds terrible to me but it's usable although I never got it to load 
under DOS.


> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:53, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh okay.
> I have no idea, it might I believe someone  suggested asking on the source 
> list for it.
> I have always gotten my machines custom built, one can still find those with 
> cereal ports.  as I use dos exclusively It has been worth it to me to keep 
> the door open.
> I did not know all those sound card options existed might be fun to play with 
> them, assuming the sound quality is clear enough.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
> 
>> I do, but none of the computers that I have have a serial port. I was hoping 
>> that this would be an alternative but I guess not.
>> 
>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Understood,
>>> May I ask what the problem is then?  Do you not have an external 
>>> synthesizer?
>>> I do not use freedos, but a later  package of ms dos 7.1  I have no issues, 
>>> but I am not using a sound card.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have heard about talking dosbox, in fact I helped with the project and I 
>>>> made one of the speech synthesis helper applications, but I was hoping to 
>>>> be able to have dos running natively without emulation. I have no sight 
>>>> whatsoever so I need speech output, and the only ways of speech output 
>>>> available are through serial with an external speech synthesizer or via a 
>>>> SoundBlaster or compatible with SBTalker, Monologue, TextAssist etc.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Guillem,
>>>>> granted I am unsure what your goals may be, but have you tried  a 
>>>>> relatively new project talking dosbox?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/00_README.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can tell you nothing about it save that  it is supposed to allow for 
>>>>> speech via dosbox using the sound card etc.
>>>>> hope this presents a solution for you.
>>>>> karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> Yeah, only reason I asked is because right now my only way of running 
>>>>>> DOS is actually through dosbox, which would make testing it kind of 
>>>>>> impossible. Before I dualboot my PC I want to be sure I'll be able to 
>>>>>> use it. If I don't have speech synthesis I can't use the computer. I 
>>>>>> would run the screenreaders through HX but the problem is that all the 
>>>>>> DOS screenreaders that I know of are 16-bit, and I'm not sure if they'd 
>>>>>> even be able to access all the data they need to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 12:09, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just for clarification, does this only work with programs loaded
>>>>>>>> inside dosbox inside HX, or is there any way to get it to work under
>>>>>>>> DOS directly, with HX loaded but without DOSbox? I'm still thinking
>>>>>>>> of dualbooting one of my machines with DOS but I need some way of
>>>>>>>> doing either USB serial port emulation or modern soundcard support
>>>>>>>> for speech synthesis.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do not know, please check the website or try to find out. If it
>>>>>>> works in dosbox, it already is quite nice, but of course it would
>>>>>>> be even better if it also worked for old DOS programs.
>>>>>

Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

I do, but none of the computers that I have have a serial port. I was hoping 
that this would be an alternative but I guess not.

> On 18 Feb 2016, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Understood,
> May I ask what the problem is then?  Do you not have an external synthesizer?
> I do not use freedos, but a later  package of ms dos 7.1  I have no issues, 
> but I am not using a sound card.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
> 
>> I have heard about talking dosbox, in fact I helped with the project and I 
>> made one of the speech synthesis helper applications, but I was hoping to be 
>> able to have dos running natively without emulation. I have no sight 
>> whatsoever so I need speech output, and the only ways of speech output 
>> available are through serial with an external speech synthesizer or via a 
>> SoundBlaster or compatible with SBTalker, Monologue, TextAssist etc.
>> 
>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guillem,
>>> granted I am unsure what your goals may be, but have you tried  a 
>>> relatively new project talking dosbox?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/00_README.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can tell you nothing about it save that  it is supposed to allow for 
>>> speech via dosbox using the sound card etc.
>>> hope this presents a solution for you.
>>> karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>> Yeah, only reason I asked is because right now my only way of running DOS 
>>>> is actually through dosbox, which would make testing it kind of 
>>>> impossible. Before I dualboot my PC I want to be sure I'll be able to use 
>>>> it. If I don't have speech synthesis I can't use the computer. I would run 
>>>> the screenreaders through HX but the problem is that all the DOS 
>>>> screenreaders that I know of are 16-bit, and I'm not sure if they'd even 
>>>> be able to access all the data they need to.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 12:09, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just for clarification, does this only work with programs loaded
>>>>>> inside dosbox inside HX, or is there any way to get it to work under
>>>>>> DOS directly, with HX loaded but without DOSbox? I'm still thinking
>>>>>> of dualbooting one of my machines with DOS but I need some way of
>>>>>> doing either USB serial port emulation or modern soundcard support
>>>>>> for speech synthesis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not know, please check the website or try to find out. If it
>>>>> works in dosbox, it already is quite nice, but of course it would
>>>>> be even better if it also worked for old DOS programs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

I have heard about talking dosbox, in fact I helped with the project and I made 
one of the speech synthesis helper applications, but I was hoping to be able to 
have dos running natively without emulation. I have no sight whatsoever so I 
need speech output, and the only ways of speech output available are through 
serial with an external speech synthesizer or via a SoundBlaster or compatible 
with SBTalker, Monologue, TextAssist etc.

> On 18 Feb 2016, at 21:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guillem,
> granted I am unsure what your goals may be, but have you tried  a relatively 
> new project talking dosbox?
> 
> 
> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/00_README.html
> 
> 
> I can tell you nothing about it save that  it is supposed to allow for speech 
> via dosbox using the sound card etc.
> hope this presents a solution for you.
> karen
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Guillem León wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> Yeah, only reason I asked is because right now my only way of running DOS is 
>> actually through dosbox, which would make testing it kind of impossible. 
>> Before I dualboot my PC I want to be sure I'll be able to use it. If I don't 
>> have speech synthesis I can't use the computer. I would run the 
>> screenreaders through HX but the problem is that all the DOS screenreaders 
>> that I know of are 16-bit, and I'm not sure if they'd even be able to access 
>> all the data they need to.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 12:09, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Just for clarification, does this only work with programs loaded
>>>> inside dosbox inside HX, or is there any way to get it to work under
>>>> DOS directly, with HX loaded but without DOSbox? I'm still thinking
>>>> of dualbooting one of my machines with DOS but I need some way of
>>>> doing either USB serial port emulation or modern soundcard support
>>>> for speech synthesis.
>>> 
>>> I do not know, please check the website or try to find out. If it
>>> works in dosbox, it already is quite nice, but of course it would
>>> be even better if it also worked for old DOS programs.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

Hi.
Yeah, only reason I asked is because right now my only way of running DOS is 
actually through dosbox, which would make testing it kind of impossible. Before 
I dualboot my PC I want to be sure I'll be able to use it. If I don't have 
speech synthesis I can't use the computer. I would run the screenreaders 
through HX but the problem is that all the DOS screenreaders that I know of are 
16-bit, and I'm not sure if they'd even be able to access all the data they 
need to.

Thanks.

> On 17 Feb 2016, at 12:09, Eric Auer  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Just for clarification, does this only work with programs loaded
>> inside dosbox inside HX, or is there any way to get it to work under
>> DOS directly, with HX loaded but without DOSbox? I'm still thinking
>> of dualbooting one of my machines with DOS but I need some way of
>> doing either USB serial port emulation or modern soundcard support
>> for speech synthesis.
> 
> I do not know, please check the website or try to find out. If it
> works in dosbox, it already is quite nice, but of course it would
> be even better if it also worked for old DOS programs.
> 
> Eric
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HX DOS extender with AC97 and HDA soundcard support

[Guillem León]

Just for clarification, does this only work with programs loaded inside dosbox 
inside HX, or is there any way to get it to work under DOS directly, with HX 
loaded but without DOSbox? I'm still thinking of dualbooting one of my machines 
with DOS but I need some way of doing either USB serial port emulation or 
modern soundcard support for speech synthesis.

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 22:47, Eric Auer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Forwarding from: www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14645
> 
> HX DOS Extender 2.17+ with modern sound card support (Announce)
> 
> posted by Wengier, 16.02.2016, 22:33
> 
> As many of you already know, HX DOS Extender, the best DOS extender out
> there is no longer maintained by Japheth. One major issue that HX 2.17
> (the last version by Japheth) exists is that it only supports a
> SBpro/SB16 card. More recently however, Ruslan Starodubov, the author of
> modern sound cards support for QuickView Pro 2.60, has decided to update
> HX 2.17 to support these modern sound cards such as AC97 and Intel HDA
> too. Yesterday he released HX 2.17+, which currently features
> experimental support for Intel HDA sound cards. The download page is at:
> 
> http://sound-dos.ucoz.ru/
> 
> Please note that this is a very important milestone in the history of
> DOS, as the vast majority of DOS sound apps/games out there (except
> certain programs such as QV 2.60 and MPXPLAY) currently don't support
> modern sound cards such as AC97/HDA directly, and there is no SB16
> emulation driver available for these modern sound cards; however, since
> DOSBox (the best DOS emulator) provides good SB16 emulation and we are
> able to run DOSBox under HX DOS Extender, and so if HX DOS Extender
> supports modern sound cards like HDA, then all DOS sound apps/games that
> work in DOSBox would be able to play sound through DOSBox's SB16
> emulation of these sound cards under HX DOS Extender. This is
> functionally pretty much like a SB16 emulation driver for modern sound
> cards in real DOS. Once we are able to get sound cards like AC97/HDA to
> work reliably with HX, then the no sound issue with the majority of DOS
> sound apps/games will be completed resolved by the SB16 emulation of
> these sound cards within HX+DOSBox in real DOS. So please don't hesitate
> to test your HDA sound cards under HX 2.17+ now and report any issues
> encountered. In case you want to try a recent DOSBox build that run
> under HX, you can try the one built with MinGW below with long filename,
> mouse copy/paste and DBCS support:
> 
> http://bit.ly/1laDvGX
> 
> Download both HX and DOSBox, then make sure DOSLFN is loaded and run
> DOSBox with "dpmild32 -g dosbox.exe". In my experiences it currently
> works best with Japheth's HX 2.16, which is still accessible from the
> page below (download both HXRT and HXGUI packages). When using with HX
> 2.17 or 2.17+, you might need to replace its VESA32.DLL file with the
> one from HX 2.16.
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20140904175113/http://www.japheth.de/HX.html
> 
> Wengier
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist

[Guillem]

I’ve been thinking of dualbooting my Windows PC with FreeDOS, and the only 
things that are preventing me from doing that right now are the fact that USB 
serial controllers don’t work all the way, and also that there’s apparently no 
way to use applications that require a sound blaster reliably. Is there any way 
to make some kind of driver that would sit between the application and the 
actual soundcard (in my case a realtek) and forward what the app is trying to 
send to the soundblaster to the realtek the right way?
I’m talking from a user’s point of view here. I have never tried developing 
anything for DOS so I really don’t know about the limitations.
Also would FreeDOS actually run on a PC with 8gb of RAM? That’s what this one 
has, but after the previous message in this topic I’m not so sure.
I guess I would also have to figure out networking. I have no way of using 
Ethernet because of how this house is set up. I can either use Wifi or use my 
phone with USB tethering, which is what I normally do because that PC’s network 
card doesn’t work all the way.

 On 18 May 2015, at 05:18, Dario Roncone darioronco...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow..( That´s not twitter..)
 
 32Bit Kernel for Free-DOS ?  Does it exist? It looks like  NASA
 
 2015-05-17 23:28 GMT+02:00, James E Lang j...@lang.hm:
 Me thinks Dario speaks with tongue planted firmly in cheek. Ho ho ho,
 LOLROF,  :-D
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Sun, 17 May 2015 14:01
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist
 
 
 Dario,
 
 Intel core DUO2 T6570@2,1Ghz 2,1Ghz  RAM 2GB SO-DIMM S-ATA2 HDD 320Gb ?
 
 Windows 7 Ultimate vers. 6.1.7601Satellite Pro Series.. Toshiba.
 
 It´s great! Sorry!
 
 well, what are you trying to tell us with all those
 VERY short mails, that you add to much longer other
 mails? Please write in a way that can be understood,
 this is not Twitter but actual email here... ;-)
 
 Do you mean that your computer has 2 GB RAM and you
 want to use the 386enh mode of Windows 3 on that?
 In that case, I have to disappoint you: Windows 3.1
 supports at most 256 MB RAM in the default config.
 
 By changing several system.ini settings, you reduce
 the risk for conflicts about EMS, UMB and disk I/O,
 which could already be a problem above 64 MB RAM.
 The settings below are for the [386Enh] section:
 
 VirtualHDIrq=OFF
 32BitDiskAccess=OFF
 SystemRomBreakpoint=OFF
 EMMExclude=A000-EFFF
 
 ... remove the device=vshare.386 line as well ...
 
 NoEmmDriver=ON
 DMABufferSize=128
 PageOverCommit=1
 WinExclusive=1
 XlatBufferSize=128
 PageBuffers=32
 MaxBPs=768
 FileSysChange=OFF
 
 The reduced overcommit allows Windows to use more
 than 256 MB RAM, by disabling large swap pondering.
 Just having an actually small swap is not enough.
 
 The above is from recommendations for deskwork, a
 Windows style GUI for DOS with some deskwork-specific
 software and a distinctive star trek TNG style look.
 
 That also suggests in win.ini, in the [windows] part:
 DefaultQueueSize=16 (for improved speed).
 
 Cheers, Eric
 
 PS: Even with the settings above, Win 3.1 crashes if
 it notices that you actually have more than 1 GB RAM.
 It may be possible to hide the rest via HIMEM options.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox

[Guillem]

Hello,
DOSbox is known for not working well with screenreaders. I have tried two of 
them (Habla and ASAP) with a real hardware Braille ’n Speak 2000 as a 
synthesizer, and both work only in review mode and make the DOS computer emit a 
constant buzz from the virtual PC speaker. I recommend using a VMWare virtual 
machine or something similar. I have tried running a Windows 3.1 VM and that 
works fine, and i’m planning to try FreeDOS in the near future.



 On 28 Jan 2015, at 11:54, Rinaldo Guelpa guelpa...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Hope some ofblind users can help. I installed dosbox on my xp computer but it 
 does not speak unless Igo into review, please help.
  
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Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS

[Guillem]

I’ve tried DOSemu with the Orca screenreader before. it could read the screen 
in terminal or dumb mode, but for some reason, when new text scrolled into the 
screen, the screenreader read the whole screen. Haven’t had a chance to try 
this with speakup, and right now I doubt I could anyway since I somehow busted 
my speech dispatcher and my Orca’s pretty much dead.
I believe VMWare is trying to emulate a Sound Blaster 16, or that’s what it 
says on the vmx file. I haven’t looked up much info about the soundcard under 
DOS though. What I do know is that VMWare does try to use a PC speaker, and 
windows doesn’t let it do that. For most vintage audiogames the PC speaker 
beeps are used to help you aim so they’re sort of important.


 On 12 Jan 2015, at 20:24, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
 
 
 Hi Guillem,
 
 In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the
 serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the
 PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the
 netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways.
 
 Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the
 built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS.
 
 Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i
 tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator
 or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way
 out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb
 mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon
 Deluxe.
 
 My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but
 to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS
 game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read
 that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu,
 which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu.
 
 My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual
 machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode,
 
 Interesting idea!
 
 except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might
 postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I
 don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this.
 
 The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came
 with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster:
 Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more
 AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through
 their DOS TSR driver which seems to work quite okay once
 you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for
 a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also,
 I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB
 sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick.
 
 Regards, Eric
 
 
 
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[Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS

[Guillem]

Hello,
I am currently considering the possibility of dualbooting my Windows computer 
with FreeDOS. I have the resources to do so (FreeDOS installation CD image 
which I can burn to a flashdrive, 512mb unallocated space on my main drive 
which I will make a FAT32 partition on, etc) but I’m only struggling with two 
problems. I haven’t found the answer to them online so I dedcided to post here.
My first problem is that I need a serial port to use my computer in FreeDOS. 
The reason is that I am completely blind. As such, I use a program called a 
screen reader, which essentially does what it’s name suggests, read the screen. 
To read it, it uses a separate tool called a speech synthesizer. A speech 
synthesizer basically turns any text into speech (most of the time, anyway :D). 
On a modern system, such as Windows, there are dozens of software speech 
synthesizers out there (eSpeak, vocalizer, ETI-Eloquence) which I can use with 
my screenreader. DOS, though, had very few software synthesizers, and the ones 
which were available weren’t usable via an external screenreader. People used 
external speech synthesizers, attached to their computers via the serial port. 
I myself own a quite old notetaker for the blind, the “Braille ’n Speak 2000”, 
which has a built-in speech synthesizer. My problem is, though, that being a 
quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, it does not have a serial 
port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works 
flawlessly and I can use all of the serial features of the Braille ’n Speak 
with it. The thing is, I haven’t seen any mention to this working under 
FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell me if it is possible to use one of these 
adapters?

This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that windows 
pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my computer has one. 
FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is if I’ll be able to 
actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a Sound Blaster compatible one, 
with the integrated realtek one my PC has. This is also quite important for me 
since most of the games that I’ll run under FreeDOS need the sound card to emit 
sound.

I hope someone here can point me in the right direction. I would really 
appreciate any help that you may be able to provide me with this.

Thanks in advance.
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