Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
Dennis, Thank you kindly. Actually, I have to admit that I have already installed that FreeDOS-Fractint.ova into my VBox. When I type the command dir into it it shows FRACTINT along with the other normal FreeDOS files. But I still can't get it to RUN Fractint. Supposedly if I just type FRACTINT and then Enter, that should do it (right?)... but it doesn't. It's crazy, or maybe I am. But I'm not giving up; will write to David Riccio to seek tips. Thanks again, very much for your response. Knute - Original Message - From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:05 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold knut...@att.net wrote: But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Thanks for any help! If you go to Fractint.org and follow the pointers, you'll find a virtual environments directory with this: Jun 10, 2014 FreeDOS-Fractint.ova - Virtual Machine Appliance for Oracle VirtualBOX running FreeDOS with Fractint v20 Should run on just about any machine with the current VirtualBOX. Thanks to David W. Riccio Perhaps using it would help you? Go to http://www.fractint.org/ftp/virtual_environments/ __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS inVirtualBox?
- Original Message - From: Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:46 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS inVirtualBox? Hi, On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Knute Myhrvold knut...@att.net wrote: I did: type FRACTINT at the command line... have tried that several times. Was I in the proper Folder? I thought so... after typing dir fractint FreeDOS did display the many files there, including FRACTINT.EXE. I then typed FRACTINT and again it didn't run. And I have been studying DOS, esp. looking for commands that would run/open/execute Fractint. So far, nothing has worked. Rather than anything else, could you please just say exactly what you would type as a command in VB FreeDOS to get Fractint to run? On 2/2/2015 5:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, but not mine. So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a Shared Folder for FreeDOS. But I still can't run Fractint. *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\_ By typing dir I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! By typing dir fractint I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the Fractint Folder, including FRACTINT.EXE. But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Hi Rugxulo and thanks very much for your thoughtful response. For me, I just used yet another (heavily modified) MetaDOS setup that I've been playing with. It's not very big, but it does have networking that works under VirtualBox (thanks to packet driver). The default FD 1.1 install should also have a working packet driver, at least for VBox. I confess it would be too much for my old brain to try another DOS figure out Networking., but what you say below may help me to understand PATHS... I'll try. wget http://www.fractint.org/ftp/current/dos/fractint-20.04p12.zip; and unzip fract*.zip and cd fractint.04p and then demo.bat seems to run it correctly for me. Perhaps part of the confusion is trying to share host (?) files with your guest VM OS? I've honestly not tried that, so I can't say how that works. I don't think that's supported for DOS guests in VBox. I think you're right; I don't think my Shared Paths show up at all. (The FRACTINT I saw when I typed dir was actually built into a special FreeDOS+Fractint.ova I installed as a second Guest, after plain FreeDOS 1.1 in VB.) Your alternatives, if this isn't convenient, is to try to use some kind of virtual floppy drive on Windows. Or similar way to insert files into a disk image. Actually, QEMU can do this, but I don't know about VBox. You could always read Ulrich's (LazyBrownDog? FD Wiki?) Networking tutorial, if you think it'll help. But I'm not sure setting up an FTP server is reasonably easy for you, though. No, not easy 'nuff for me, anyway. Or just use VMware. FreeDOS did have one guy (Eduardo) contribute VMSMOUNT, which lets you access host/guest files easier, but I have no idea if VMware (fully?) works without VT-X. (I can't test everything.) Downloading yet another huge hypervisor is probably overkill. Or use DOSBox (slow 486 software-only emulator, not a real DOS, but it should work with such graphical programs like this, and it mounts host file system easily). Or install native FreeDOS to a bootable USB drive via RUFUS (although you may need help to boot from that, e.g. PLoP Boot Manager, if your WinXP machine is too old). Yes, the parts that I can grasp, even partially, are helpful I thank you. Does any of this sound reasonably helpful? It could always be more obvious, of course, but it's hard to know what exactly you're trying to do. Well, I just want to run Fractint, like I used to in Win98, no hassle. But now I thought I'd try to run it in this new-fangled virtual FreeDOS... but I'm finding it incredibly complicated. (But interesting!) Knute -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast
[Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, but not mine. So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a Shared Folder for FreeDOS. But I still can't run Fractint. *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\_ By typing dir I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! By typing dir fractint I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the Fractint Folder, including FRACTINT.EXE. But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Thanks for any help! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
Ralf, I did: type FRACTINT at the command line... have tried that several times. Was I in the proper Folder? I thought so... after typing dir fractint FreeDOS did display the many files there, including FRACTINT.EXE. I then typed FRACTINT and again it didn't run. And I have been studying DOS, esp. looking for commands that would run/open/execute Fractint. So far, nothing has worked. Rather than anything else, could you please just say exactly what you would type as a command in VB FreeDOS to get Fractint to run? Thanks, I appreciate your time. Knute - Original Message - From: Ralf Quint To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? On 2/2/2015 5:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, but not mine. So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a Shared Folder for FreeDOS. But I still can't run Fractint. *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\_ By typing dir I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! By typing dir fractint I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the Fractint Folder, including FRACTINT.EXE. But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Just like you run ANY DOS program! Simply by typing FRACTINT at the command line given that a) you are in the factint folder on your virtual disk or b) that folder that contains FRACTINT.EXE is in your PATH In general, it seems you should learn the very basics of how DOS works, I guess any of the many DOS tutorials that are out there will do just fine. Beside that, it might still be possible that while that factint program will run, it might not produce the output you expect, as it might require a graphics mode/driver that, at least by default, may or may not work in VirtualBox... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
EUREKA! FRACTINT RUNS IN FREEDOS! I have finally found the way to run it, that is, I found it after Ralf Dale others told me... CHDIR is the key This only applies to the special FreeDOS+Fractint.ova which is downloadable from the Fractint.org site (Fractint 20 is built-into FreeDOS 1.0). Install into Oracle VirtualBox, a piece of cake (Devil's food). After installed as a Guest, Start it. Type CHDIR FRACTINT, enter, then type FRACTINT.EXE, enter, and there you are, in Fractint. Thank you Ralf, thank you Dale, thank you all who helped! ** - Original Message - From: Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? It sounds like you are trying to do it right. You must include the path on your command. Is it possible that you are missing a file - like a license file in you directory. It may be free now but was probably once shareware that died after a period if unpurchased. Most of the time they give away the dos license free now. I run my dos on cf chips by itself. I have hundreds of nice programs from the old days. I built a screen menu with bat files. I type in a nunber followed by a letter to start my programs. When I exit it takes me back to c:\ where I started and redisplays the menu with numbers and letters listed for each program Good luck cheers DS On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 05:18:42 -0800 Knute Myhrvold knut...@att.net writes: I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, but not mine. So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a Shared Folder for FreeDOS. But I still can't run Fractint. *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\_ By typing dir I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! By typing dir fractint I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the Fractint Folder, including FRACTINT.EXE. But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Thanks for any help! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54d01dc5229671dc51e3est03duc -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: FreeDOS install aborted into VirtualBox - Help please
Eric, Thanks much for your kind speedy response. I'll tell you all I can if it will help you in future. However, I did finally get FreeDOS 1.1 installed into VirtualBox just a few minutes ago... at least it seems to be working and I didn't get that Bad... message this time. How? I Removed FreeDOS all components for the 3rd time from VirtualBox, downloaded a new copy of FD1.1 from another source (ibiblio.org), burned it onto a fresh disk, downloaded and installed an Extension Pack into VirtualBox* and THEN forced FD1.1 to install, with threats to its life. This time I didn't follow the online instructions; I pretty much had them memorized... (The online instructions, while quite admirable, still never quite proceeded exactly as my experience did.) There was some circular repeating again, but I just kept hitting Esc /or Enter to get past it. And it seems to be working. * [I now see that I installed the wrong Extension Pack (an older version)... it seemed to install OK but I see that FD's log says NO extension packs installed!] Now I just have to figure out how to install Fractint (a DOS program). I typed help into FD but could find no help on how to install programs into it. Now to try to answer your questions. RE: Have you tried to boot with fewer drivers? Use the F5 or F8 hotkeys when the kernel loads to skip all or selected drivers. Or, if that works as expected, just use the menu provided by FreeDOS config sys: But... how to get at the Menu before FD installed? It is possible that your EMS/UMB/XMS/HMA memory driver or disk cache get confused which could make DOS disconnect from your virtual disk. I confess I don't understand, sorry. Of course it is also possible that you just have some failure in installing all necessary boot files. Boot from the install CD or ISO and look if you have command.com in c:\fdos\bin\ as expected. I downloaded the ISO and burned it onto a disk, then installed FreeDOS from the disk into VirtualBox and then -- I think -- got it to install onto my real HD so I wouldn't have to keep the disk in the drive forever.** That seems like a painfully roundabout way to install that 40MB OS! Is it not possible to just leave the FreeDOS ISO, or better yet, the ISO's constituents on the hard drive? **I just did a Search and there is no fdos or fdos\bin anywhere on my C: drive. The only FreeDOS on my HD is: C:\Documents and Settings\Knute\VirtualBox VMs\FreeDOS 1.1\Logs (Logs contains 2 VBox logs) and \FreeDOS 1.1\ contains 3 files ( FreeDOS 1.1.vbox; .vbox-prev; and .vdi). The FreeDOS 1.1.vdi file is 110.6MB, so that's where everything is, bin all I guess. Which version of FreeDOS were you installing from? One of the CD ISO images, I assume? I downloaded fd11src.iso which is what I thought was the correct one. By making the ISO visible as a virtualbox virtual CD? I don't understand. Or by burning it to real CD or DVD first? The latter should not be necessary NOW you tell me :) I'm sorry, Eric... I probably haven't been much help because I'm just too DOS and PC ignorant to help much with specifics. Generally, I'll make 2 suggestions: Please make installation easier if at all possible, and second PLEASE fix the Mouse Bug... The FreeDOS window says I can click on various things, but I can't. If I touch the DOS screen it triggers screen Capture (and the Right Control button does nothing.) I will want to click on the window in Fractint so I hope the Mouse Bug can be cured. Most importantly I must tell you that I'm grateful for the yeoman work you've done to create this program that many of us need, and please keep up the fine work!! Now I'm off to try to install my DOS Fractint. ~Knute - Original Message - From: Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 12:57 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install aborted into VirtualBox - Help please Hi Knute, Can you help, please?... I finally installed FreeDOS into VirtualBox, except at the very end of the install instead of the window where the instructions say Now we boot FreeDOS in our virtual machine (select 1)... instead of that the DOS window says Bad or missing Command Interpreter: C:\FDOS\BIN\command.com ... Have you tried to boot with fewer drivers? Use the F5 or F8 hotkeys when the kernel loads to skip all or selected drivers. Or, if that works as expected, just use the menu provided by FreeDOS config sys: It is possible that your EMS/UMB/XMS/HMA memory driver or disk cache get confused which could make DOS disconnect from your virtual disk. Of course it is also possible that you just have some failure in installing all necessary boot files. Boot from the install CD or ISO and look if you have command.com in c:\fdos\bin\ as expected. Which version of FreeDOS were you installing from? One of the CD ISO images, I assume? By making the
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS install aborted into VirtualBox - Help please
Can you help, please?... I finally installed FreeDOS into VirtualBox, except at the very end of the install instead of the window where the instructions say Now we boot FreeDOS in our virtual machine (select 1)... instead of that the DOS window says Bad or missing Command Interpreter: C:\FDOS\BIN\command.com C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024/P=C:\Autoexec.batEnter the full shell command line:_ ... and then it freezes. I've been struggling with this for quite some time, and just when I thought I'd made it to the end it gives me this Bad... message and dies. Any suggestions on how to correct this? Or must I uninstall everything and begin over? Thanks for any help you can give! ~Knute --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
