Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On 18 May 2022, 11:09, Aitor Santamaría wrote: Some months ago we discussed about this very precise topic. I particularly favoured for something like this: let Linux do the job to adapt to new hardware and FreeDOS live in a emulated 16-bit environment that real hardware no longer provides. I am happy that HP proved it to be feasible. DOS isn't restricted 16-Bit, with VCPI and DPMI there are plenty of 32-Bit-DOS programs out there. And if HP has a feasible solution with FreeDOS or not, may be in the eye of the beholder. (They apparently say that it's not themselves, as you cannot really use the hardware with it. Lack of drivers is just the tip of the iceberg, with no audio to start with.) But, yes, Linux can do that. But for me personally, when I have to use Linux anyway, I do prefer running DOSBox... Cheers, A. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
Hi, On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 09:51, wrote: > On 17 May 2022, 18:21, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: > > So yes there is work in the pipeline, but nothing coming soon or > guaranteed > > to be useful. > > > > Jeremy > > That is great to hear, as FreeDOS will otherwise be drifting away > forever on real hardware, even more as it was before (when there still > were EFI-CSMs). That HP uses Linux (or rather: has to use /something > else/) to boot FreeDOS proves exactly that. > Some months ago we discussed about this very precise topic. I particularly favoured for something like this: let Linux do the job to adapt to new hardware and FreeDOS live in a emulated 16-bit environment that real hardware no longer provides. I am happy that HP proved it to be feasible. Aitor ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On 17 May 2022, 18:21, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: So yes there is work in the pipeline, but nothing coming soon or guaranteed to be useful. Jeremy That is great to hear, as FreeDOS will otherwise be drifting away forever on real hardware, even more as it was before (when there still were EFI-CSMs). That HP uses Linux (or rather: has to use /something else/) to boot FreeDOS proves exactly that. Being able to natively use GPT is just one small initial step, but for real hardware a necessary one I think, as this would make multi-boot a lot easier. Just like Linux was/still is able to boot from GPT, even when in BIOS mode. IMHO I think a very small core operating system, one that would provide all the necessary drivers and a complete BIOS emulation, would solve the problem nicely, but it would have to be something better than /just any/ Linux, because that comes with a) too much additional stuff unnecessary for the task at hand, b) issues of its own and c) if not updated regularly: security concerns. Something like a very small Linux kernel (LinuxBIOS/Coreboot?) with an accelerated display driver (among other things), a BIOS emulation, some basic hardware emulation like keyboard/mouse, some more complex hardware emulation like an emulated SoundBlaster card -- maybe something like DOSBox, but as a fullscreen KVM -- would be just it. FreeDOS would then be running on the same virtual hardware, everywhere. Thanks for your reply. A. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On Tue, May 17, 2022, 10:52 AM wrote: > Hi! > > Just out of curiosity... > > Jim Hall wrote on 16 May 2022, 19:07: > > FreeDOS pre-installed. But it's UEFI only (no BIOS) and any DOS > > requires a BIOS. > > Is there a way to load a BIOS from an UEFI that lacks a CSM? SeaBIOS > comes to mind... By loading something like a "BIOSEMU.EFI" > third-party/external CSM, FreeDOS would again be bootable, even on GPT > partitioning, because the protective MBR (PMBR) could be used for hybrid > partitioning... > Yes, but it will not be 100% compatible. Graphics and sound are big issues. The graphics card will likely not support int10h video BIOS so that will be needed as well. Modern sound cards are an issue in themselves, with most DOS programs lacking support. USB and mice/keyboard support is another problem. A non-motherboard provided CSM lacks access to SMM so can't use some tricks to hide compatibility issues. I don't have links handy but there are a couple projects (not directly FreeDOS ones) working on this. > Alternatively, FreeDOS could learn GPT natively. > Having the kernel boot on UEFI systems is not overly difficult, but currently entirely useless as only pure DOS programs that don't talk to BIOS would work. No video mode changes, scrolling, output, etc even for text mode, no hard drive int 13h access for disk or file access. Probably no keyboard use either as it is likely a USB device. As for booting off GPT disks instead of MBR partitioned ones on BIOS based systems, that is in the works. > If anyone knows Clover > (https://github.com/CloverHackyColor/CloverBootloader) -- this would be > the reverse: Clover loads a UEFI on a BIOS system, while FreeDOS would > require to load a BIOS on a UEFI system without a CSM. > > Is there anything in the pipeline for UEFI systems? > > Thanks, > So yes there is work in the pipeline, but nothing coming soon or guaranteed to be useful. Jeremy ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 4:43 PM Jon Brase wrote: > > >*I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when > > I click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see > > "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu > > Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option > > is not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase > > prices in Euro). > > I've heard of modern systems shipping with FreeDOS before: [..] > the acquaintance that told me this said that it was basically a way of > selling a PC without an operating system while still selling something > that would boot (so that the technophobes don't come back complaining > that you've sold them a brick), though I'd think Ubuntu would do that > job just as well, in terms of licensing cost. [..] I won't comment on the geopolitics you mentioned, but I've also heard that PC manufacturers bundle FreeDOS on systems for this reason. I understand that it had something to do with Windows OEM license agreements with Microsoft, that Ballmer would cut vendors a better deal if they didn't offer "no OS" systems, and preferred that vendors didn't pre-install Linux either. And with FreeDOS, support was easier (customers might call for help with Linux, where they probably won't with FreeDOS). Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
>*I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I click on >the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see "Windows 11 Pro," >"Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu Linux 20.04." So either HP >has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is not available in the US (the >article's screenshots show purchase prices in Euro). I've heard of modern systems shipping with FreeDOS before: around 2012, apparently half of all laptops in Russia shipped with FreeDOS; the acquaintance that told me this said that it was basically a way of selling a PC without an operating system while still selling something that would boot (so that the technophobes don't come back complaining that you've sold them a brick), though I'd think Ubuntu would do that job just as well, in terms of licensing cost. Desktops in Russia, apparently, are almost exclusively built from parts by the owner or by a hired entrepreneur. I imagine shopping in the US vs. abroad has something to do with it: Russia is outright hostile to the US (and thus US companies), and the EU tends to do better than the US at restraining the kind of anticompetitive deals with manufacturers that MS gained infamy for cutting back in the 90's. So I'd imagine that companies like HP might well find themselves constrained by local law to offer a "no OS" (i.e. FreeDOS) option in those markets. So if MS is still cutting such deals, this is about what I'd expect to see: manufacturers offering FreeDOS abroad and not in the US. OTOH, my understanding is that most of MS's income these days is from enterprise volume licensing and support, and relatively little from per-machine licensing or the consumer market in general, so they don't have to have reformed any, morally speaking, for the reptuational risks of such deals to outweigh the rewards. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
Hi! Just out of curiosity... Jim Hall wrote on 16 May 2022, 19:07: FreeDOS pre-installed. But it's UEFI only (no BIOS) and any DOS requires a BIOS. Is there a way to load a BIOS from an UEFI that lacks a CSM? SeaBIOS comes to mind... By loading something like a "BIOSEMU.EFI" third-party/external CSM, FreeDOS would again be bootable, even on GPT partitioning, because the protective MBR (PMBR) could be used for hybrid partitioning... Alternatively, FreeDOS could learn GPT natively. If anyone knows Clover (https://github.com/CloverHackyColor/CloverBootloader) -- this would be the reverse: Clover loads a UEFI on a BIOS system, while FreeDOS would require to load a BIOS on a UEFI system without a CSM. Is there anything in the pipeline for UEFI systems? Thanks, A. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
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Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
Please upgrade project small in all social media .. not token . Code kotlin but . Checkpoint . List point' end . Me realese . Update my software small programm fadliwiryawirawan fadliwiryawira...@google.com software SYSTEM secure transparency Pada tanggal Sel, 17 Mei 2022 18.36, richardkolacz...@hotmail.com < richardkolacz...@hotmail.com> menulis: > Jim Hall wrote > > At least HP stopped referring to "FreeDOS 3.0" on their website. I had > sent them a "cease and desist" letter about that, when you originally > mentioned it. We don't have a FreeDOS "3.0" distribution, so I said HP > needed to stop confusing users with that version label. They changed all > references from "FreeDOS 3.0" to just "FreeDOS" after I sent the letter. > > > > > I know that this current topic is "dead" (to me) and the above paragraph > by Jim was really the answer I needed for closure (very clear-cut). > Misunderstanding by me when replies to me say just "typo" or such - WITHOUT > stating what the FULL CORRECTION should be (to clarify matters for any > future readers). > > > If you have a few minutes to waste time on... > > *Just for fun, refer to the following links (as of 10 minutes ago)...* and > paying attention to dates > > > hp zbook fury g8 > https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c07606964 > > > hp zbook firefly g8 specs (<-- see date for MS Bing Search Result) > https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741 > https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741 > > > > > > The firefly model was released shortly before the fury model and actually > mentions FreeDOS 1.2. > > > Maybe HP does not know about FreeDOS 1.3? > > Richard > HP ZBook Firefly 15.6 inch G8 Mobile Workstation Specifications > <https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741> > 5G module is an optional feature that must be configured at purchase. > Requires activation and separately purchased service contract. Check with > service provider for coverage and availability in your area. > support.hp.com > > HP ZBook Firefly 15.6 inch G8 Mobile Workstation Specifications > <https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741> > 5G module is an optional feature that must be configured at purchase. > Requires activation and separately purchased service contract. Check with > service provider for coverage and availability in your area. > support.hp.com > > HP ZBook Fury 15.6 Inch G8 Mobile Workstation PC > <https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c07606964> > QuickSpecs HP ZBook Fury 15.6 Inch G8 Mobile Workstation PC Features > c07606964 — DA – 16852 —Worldwide — Version 18 — January 18, 2022 Page 5 1 > Multicore is designed to improve performance of certain software products. > Not all customers or software applications will > www8.hp.com > > > > > -- > *From:* Jim Hall > *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 May 2022 8:28 PM > *To:* Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS > option" > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2022, 8:22 PM richardkolacz...@hotmail.com < > richardkolacz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > [..] > IF I am allowed to quote myself (from a now "dead" topic) > > [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0 > > > For anyone curious, the following link is how to custom configure (at > purchase time) the HP laptop > > > https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId==10051=-1=10151=3074457345620032820=1 > > From the options at start of page, using Ubuntu (which is free) as a guide > - one can determine the "cost" of Windows (Pro) to being about US$215. > Depending which (of many) links to configure HP zBook G8 you go to, the > option of FreeDOS 3.0 is not always available - however with the previous > model (about 1-2 years ago), the G7 version always had FreeDOS 2.0 or > Ubuntu at no charge (and roughly Windows Pro being at the same price). > > [..] > > I don't see FreeDOS on the link you shared, so I think that HP ZBook Fury > 17 G8 page has changed since you first shared it, or I'm not clicking the > right link to change the OS. (I see only Win 11 pro, Win 10 pro, Win 11 > home, and Ubuntu Linux.) > > At least HP stopped referring to "FreeDOS 3.0" on their website. I had > sent them a "cease and desist" letter about that, when you originally > mentioned it. We don't have a FreeDOS "3.0" distribution, so I said HP > needed to stop confusing users with that version label. They changed all > references from "FreeDOS 3.0" to just "FreeDOS" after I sent the letter. > > > Jim > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
Jim Hall wrote At least HP stopped referring to "FreeDOS 3.0" on their website. I had sent them a "cease and desist" letter about that, when you originally mentioned it. We don't have a FreeDOS "3.0" distribution, so I said HP needed to stop confusing users with that version label. They changed all references from "FreeDOS 3.0" to just "FreeDOS" after I sent the letter. I know that this current topic is "dead" (to me) and the above paragraph by Jim was really the answer I needed for closure (very clear-cut). Misunderstanding by me when replies to me say just "typo" or such - WITHOUT stating what the FULL CORRECTION should be (to clarify matters for any future readers). If you have a few minutes to waste time on... Just for fun, refer to the following links (as of 10 minutes ago)... and paying attention to dates hp zbook fury g8 https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c07606964 hp zbook firefly g8 specs (<-- see date for MS Bing Search Result) https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741 The firefly model was released shortly before the fury model and actually mentions FreeDOS 1.2. Maybe HP does not know about FreeDOS 1.3? Richard HP ZBook Firefly 15.6 inch G8 Mobile Workstation Specifications<https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741> 5G module is an optional feature that must be configured at purchase. Requires activation and separately purchased service contract. Check with service provider for coverage and availability in your area. support.hp.com HP ZBook Firefly 15.6 inch G8 Mobile Workstation Specifications<https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06978741> 5G module is an optional feature that must be configured at purchase. Requires activation and separately purchased service contract. Check with service provider for coverage and availability in your area. support.hp.com HP ZBook Fury 15.6 Inch G8 Mobile Workstation PC<https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c07606964> QuickSpecs HP ZBook Fury 15.6 Inch G8 Mobile Workstation PC Features c07606964 — DA – 16852 —Worldwide — Version 18 — January 18, 2022 Page 5 1 Multicore is designed to improve performance of certain software products. Not all customers or software applications will www8.hp.com From: Jim Hall Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2022 8:28 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option" On Mon, May 16, 2022, 8:22 PM richardkolacz...@hotmail.com<mailto:richardkolacz...@hotmail.com> mailto:richardkolacz...@hotmail.com>> wrote: [..] IF I am allowed to quote myself (from a now "dead" topic) [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0 For anyone curious, the following link is how to custom configure (at purchase time) the HP laptop https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId==10051=-1=10151=3074457345620032820=1 >From the options at start of page, using Ubuntu (which is free) as a guide - >one can determine the "cost" of Windows (Pro) to being about US$215. >Depending which (of many) links to configure HP zBook G8 you go to, the option >of FreeDOS 3.0 is not always available - however with the previous model >(about 1-2 years ago), the G7 version always had FreeDOS 2.0 or Ubuntu at no >charge (and roughly Windows Pro being at the same price). [..] I don't see FreeDOS on the link you shared, so I think that HP ZBook Fury 17 G8 page has changed since you first shared it, or I'm not clicking the right link to change the OS. (I see only Win 11 pro, Win 10 pro, Win 11 home, and Ubuntu Linux.) At least HP stopped referring to "FreeDOS 3.0" on their website. I had sent them a "cease and desist" letter about that, when you originally mentioned it. We don't have a FreeDOS "3.0" distribution, so I said HP needed to stop confusing users with that version label. They changed all references from "FreeDOS 3.0" to just "FreeDOS" after I sent the letter. Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On Mon, May 16, 2022, 8:22 PM richardkolacz...@hotmail.com < richardkolacz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [..] > IF I am allowed to quote myself (from a now "dead" topic) > > [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0 > > > For anyone curious, the following link is how to custom configure (at > purchase time) the HP laptop > > > https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId==10051=-1=10151=3074457345620032820=1 > > From the options at start of page, using Ubuntu (which is free) as a guide > - one can determine the "cost" of Windows (Pro) to being about US$215. > Depending which (of many) links to configure HP zBook G8 you go to, the > option of FreeDOS 3.0 is not always available - however with the previous > model (about 1-2 years ago), the G7 version always had FreeDOS 2.0 or > Ubuntu at no charge (and roughly Windows Pro being at the same price). > [..] I don't see FreeDOS on the link you shared, so I think that HP ZBook Fury 17 G8 page has changed since you first shared it, or I'm not clicking the right link to change the OS. (I see only Win 11 pro, Win 10 pro, Win 11 home, and Ubuntu Linux.) At least HP stopped referring to "FreeDOS 3.0" on their website. I had sent them a "cease and desist" letter about that, when you originally mentioned it. We don't have a FreeDOS "3.0" distribution, so I said HP needed to stop confusing users with that version label. They changed all references from "FreeDOS 3.0" to just "FreeDOS" after I sent the letter. Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
Jim Hall wrote *I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase prices in Euro). NO NEW INFORMATION here (below) from me, but ... IF I am allowed to quote myself (from a now "dead" topic) [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0 For anyone curious, the following link is how to custom configure (at purchase time) the HP laptop https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId==10051=-1=10151=3074457345620032820=1 >From the options at start of page, using Ubuntu (which is free) as a guide - >one can determine the "cost" of Windows (Pro) to being about US$215. >Depending which (of many) links to configure HP zBook G8 you go to, the option >of FreeDOS 3.0 is not always available - however with the previous model >(about 1-2 years ago), the G7 version always had FreeDOS 2.0 or Ubuntu at no >charge (and roughly Windows Pro being at the same price). NOTE - HP has just announced the next model - HP zBOOK Fury G9 Richard From: Jim Hall Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2022 3:07 AM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option" On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:09 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > I thought that this blog post might interest folks here. > > https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/ > > Various models of HP computer can be bought with FreeDOS as their > operating system, and it is the cheapest option -- or Ubuntu Linux for > some models. > > But it's not just a computer with a formatted hard disk and FreeDOS on > it. It's considerably more complicated than that... > Summary for those who don't want to click on the article: HP is selling new laptops, like the HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8, with FreeDOS pre-installed. But it's UEFI only (no BIOS) and any DOS requires a BIOS. Here's how HP pre-installed FreeDOS on this system: (quoted from article) > 1 The laptops is set to UEFI boot, which boots a pretty standard GRUB > 2 Debian gets booted with KMS disabled, as well as all DRM drivers. > 3 Once the system is booted Gnome Display Manager starts > 4 GDM will automatically login the root user and start the /root/.xsession > 5 The XSession will start an XFCE terminal and executes Qemu on an image > file in /home/aos/qemu So basically, HP has installed Linux, which starts QEMU, and they boot FreeDOS inside QEMU. When you shut down FreeDOS (exit QEMU) the system shuts down too. *I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase prices in Euro). Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:09 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > I thought that this blog post might interest folks here. > > https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/ > > Various models of HP computer can be bought with FreeDOS as their > operating system, and it is the cheapest option -- or Ubuntu Linux for > some models. > > But it's not just a computer with a formatted hard disk and FreeDOS on > it. It's considerably more complicated than that... > Summary for those who don't want to click on the article: HP is selling new laptops, like the HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8, with FreeDOS pre-installed. But it's UEFI only (no BIOS) and any DOS requires a BIOS. Here's how HP pre-installed FreeDOS on this system: (quoted from article) > 1 The laptops is set to UEFI boot, which boots a pretty standard GRUB > 2 Debian gets booted with KMS disabled, as well as all DRM drivers. > 3 Once the system is booted Gnome Display Manager starts > 4 GDM will automatically login the root user and start the /root/.xsession > 5 The XSession will start an XFCE terminal and executes Qemu on an image > file in /home/aos/qemu So basically, HP has installed Linux, which starts QEMU, and they boot FreeDOS inside QEMU. When you shut down FreeDOS (exit QEMU) the system shuts down too. *I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase prices in Euro). Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"
I thought that this blog post might interest folks here. https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/ Various models of HP computer can be bought with FreeDOS as their operating system, and it is the cheapest option -- or Ubuntu Linux for some models. But it's not just a computer with a formatted hard disk and FreeDOS on it. It's considerably more complicated than that... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
