Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Thomas Mueller]

Excerpt from Karen Lewellen and Rugxulo:

> > There was a specific lynx package written by dug Kaufman that I may request
> > be updated.

> I don't think he's still active, but I could be wrong.

Doug Kaufman's web page is still up, but his Lynx is pretty old:

 The latest DOS port of lynx is 2.8.5rel.1. You can download it here (2463576 
bytes, 18 April 2004). 

Last line of that web page says:

This page last updated 2 November 2006. 

URL is http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/

I see http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html  is still up: looks like no update 
since 1999. 

I find lynx useful, elinks may be better, but only for very limited use and not 
for general browsing, certainly not online banking.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
>
> I have a former IBM engineer who builds and maintains all of my computers as
> I  run Dos exclusively.

Yes, I knew you ran MS-DOS, you've mentioned it before.   :-)

I'm glad somebody is willing to help. Things like this are a bit tricky.

> There was a specific lynx package written by dug Kaufman that I may request
> be updated.

I don't think he's still active, but I could be wrong.

> Worth it for me as presently I do all of my Internet work via ssh telnet to
> services like shellworld.

Yes, you've mentioned it before. I presume that Lynx may be the most
useful there.

> Will skip the dos extender as  the edition of dos I have is of the later
> ms dos variety.
> Thanks for providing an explanation though!

Hmmm? There's nothing to skip, it's just DPMI (usually CWSDPMI), which
is similar to (but not quite) a DOS extender. So only if you're not
running an OS that already has its own DPMI server, you just download
CWSDPMI and put it in the same directory (or PATH somewhere), and it
automatically finds and loads it for you. It will work with MS-DOS,
FreeDOS, or DR-DOS, etc.

(any DJGPP mirror) ... /current/v2misc/ ... csdpmi7b.zip

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Zbigniew]

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:58:47PM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:

> Yes, Lynx will presumably run under native DOS

Even, if it will - the days when we could use Lynx for browsing Web contents
are long gone. Java everywhere... :( and even without this if site's pages
haven't been designed to be Lynx-friendly, in most cases Lynx displays them
as a hard to navigate (even difficult to read) mess.
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Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
>
> May I ask what djgpp is exactly?
> I was about to  ask on the Lynx developers list about an updated DOS
> package.
> will this if properly configured run under dos?
> Sorry if my question is well naive,

DJGPP is a 32-bit DOS extender / libc / runtime (requiring 386),
usually for DOS ports of GNU tools (e.g. GCC). It's been around
(roughly) since 1989. It was used by Quake 1 back in the day (1996).
It's somewhat unfairly considered "obsolete" in lieu of Win32 (e.g.
Win95 or NT). But tons of software used it, again primarily "back in
the day" (although it's still minimally updated and supported).

Yes, Lynx will presumably run under native DOS, but it sounds very
complicated to get working. It's not impossible, but I don't recommend
it for the fainthearted. I'm a little savvy, but even I think it might
be more trouble than it's worth. Still, it's nice to have. I just
don't quite have the energy to waste dozens of hours on it right now.

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Karen Lewellen]

May I ask what djgpp is exactly?
I was about to  ask on the Lynx developers list about an updated DOS 
package.

will this if properly configured run under dos?
Sorry if my question is well naive,
Karen


On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Rugxulo wrote:


Hi,

Just FYI 

DJGPP currently has "Lynx 2.8.9dev.16" (since last July) under
/current/v2tk/ (lx28916b.zip).

(Sorry if this link doesn't work without Javascript, it's just the
announcement of the above from news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp .)

"ANNOUNCE: DJGPP port of Lynx 2.8.9dev.16 uploaded." (7/16/17)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/1RDpQJJ8boE

WARNING: I haven't used it (not even under VM).   ;-)   It sounds a
bit complicated to setup!   :-O


On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:


many additions to this latest developers release.



The current version of lynx is 2.8.8

It's available at
http://lynx.invisible-island.net/
ftp://invisible-island.net/lynx/
2.8.9 Development & patches:
http://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/index.html


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Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

Just FYI 

DJGPP currently has "Lynx 2.8.9dev.16" (since last July) under
/current/v2tk/ (lx28916b.zip).

(Sorry if this link doesn't work without Javascript, it's just the
announcement of the above from news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp .)

"ANNOUNCE: DJGPP port of Lynx 2.8.9dev.16 uploaded." (7/16/17)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/1RDpQJJ8boE

WARNING: I haven't used it (not even under VM).   ;-)   It sounds a
bit complicated to setup!   :-O


On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
>
> many additions to this latest developers release.
>
>
>> The current version of lynx is 2.8.8
>>
>> It's available at
>> http://lynx.invisible-island.net/
>> ftp://invisible-island.net/lynx/
>> 2.8.9 Development & patches:
>> http://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/index.html

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[Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

[Karen Lewellen]

many additions to this latest developers release.
Karen



The current version of lynx is 2.8.8

It's available at
http://lynx.invisible-island.net/
ftp://invisible-island.net/lynx/
2.8.9 Development & patches:
http://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/index.html

Files:
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/patches/lynx2.8.9dev.17.patch.gz
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/patches/lynx2.8.9dev.17.patch.gz.asc
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.9dev.17.tar.bz2
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.9dev.17.tar.bz2.asc
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.9dev.17.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.9dev.17.tar.gz.asc
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.9dev.17.zip

2018-03-21 (2.8.9dev.17)
* modify samples/oldlynx.bat to check if Lynx recognizes the -lss option -TD
* modify samples/*lynx.bat to check for environment variables that Lynx would
 test for temp-directory, and only if those are absent will the scripts
 attempt to create a temp-directory -TD
* modify samples/*lynx.bat to set PATH for executing utility programs -TD
* remove unused critSec_DNS -TD
* use EnterCriticalSection in ws_netread rather than InitializeCriticalSection
 since critSec_READ was initialized in LYMain.c (report by GV) -TD
* use freeaddrinfo() in one case where free() was used (report by GV) -TD
* implement "+" item type for gopher protocol (report by James Tomasino) -TD
* add checks in options-menu in case no color-styles have been defined -TD
* add Visual Studio project files for 2010, 2012 -TD
* improve checks for strings which should not be empty -TD
* check for empty personal-mail-address (report by TG) -TD
* modify samples/lynx-demo.cfg to use SOURCE_CACHE:memory -TD
* modify samples/*lynx.bat to use existing TEMP-directory if possible -TD
* modify windows installer to select directory containing SSL DLLs and copy
 them into lynx's application directory -TD
* add oldlynx.bat sample script to windows installer -TD
* use default lynx.lss color scheme with samples/lynx.bat -TD
* modify windows installers to use static libraries for pdcurses and slang,
 because the dll for the latter is much larger than the rest of lynx.
 Even with this change, lynx.exe is 50% larger when using slang than with
 pdcurses -TD
* rename test-package for ".rpm" to "lynx-dev" for consistency with ".deb" -TD
* improve samples/lynx.bat by using location of script rather than current
 directory ("Smuggler" loto1...@inbox.ru).
* permanently enable MISC_EXP feature -TD
* remove several obsolete ifdefs: DGUX, DGUX_OLD, HP_TERMINAL,
 REVERSE_CLEAR_SCREEN_PROBLEM, SHORTENED_RBIND, SLANG_MBCS_HACK, SNAKE -TD
* improve logic in HTCopy used to limit reads based on content-length to
 take into account server headers which extend past the first block read
 (report/test-case by Dick Wesseling) -TD
* permanently enable EXP_HTTP_HEADERS feature -TD
* modify color-style hashing to check for collisions (reported by TG, Russell
 Bell) -TD
* add PREFERRED_CONTENT_TYPE defaulting to text/plain and options-menu to
 replace an assumption in HTMIMEConvert that everything is text/html.
 Since most servers provide a valid Content-Type for HTML, and are more likely
 to omit it for files lacking a known suffix, defaulting to text/plain is a
 better choice -TD
* remove dead-code for OMIT_SCN_KEEPING -TD
* remove dead/unreachable pretty-source code in HTML.c, noticed because
 it complicates hashing -TD
* improve hashing for anchors and styles by using a more suitable hash-table
 size -TD
* add a note in lynx.cfg telling how to remove a default key-mapping -TD
* modify "=" command to make it possible to disable margins for the URL string,
 by first disabling wrapping using "|" -TD
* several fixes for Windows version -TH
 + fix an abnormal terminate when pressing 'd'(download) on no action button.
 + work around incompatibility in move() between POSIX and Windows.
   ref: 
https://www.securecoding.cert.org/confluence/display/c/FIO10-C.+Take+care+when+using+the+rename%28%29+function
 + fix limit-check for SJIS which prevented showing a show long title in the
   title bar on Windows environment.
 + fix problem with PDCurses when wrapping lines.
   ref: lynx-dev discussions "Subject: Wrapping line behavior"
 + fix resizing terminal problem with Windows + PDCurses.
   This problem occurs only with some combinations of source and destination
   screen size.
   For example: 80x25 -> 90x20
 + including some code clean up
* improve consistency in help-files discussing line-edit keymaps (prompted by
 Debian #888391) -TD
* additional fixes to work with LibreSSL on OpenBSD 6.2 -TD
* build-fixes for OpenSSL 1.1.0 versus 1.0.0 (patch by Quentin Minster).
* modify configure script to make a quirk of NetBSD's make-program less
 noticeable -TD
* modify configure script to work around pkgsrc's misconfiguration of shared
 libraries