Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
I guess my Compaq 4.3 gig scsi hard drive is the part that doesn't work. I swapped in a Seagate Cheetah drive, works just fine without any kind of driver. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
On 2012-12-18 08:56 (GMT-0800) Michael Robinson composed: I guess my Compaq 4.3 gig scsi hard drive is the part that doesn't work. I swapped in a Seagate Cheetah drive, works just fine without any kind of driver. Maybe it's just a cable compatibility, jumper, or termination issue. SCSI is anything but simple. http://www.scsifaq.org/ -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] What about scsi???
I have a 4G scsi hard drive connect to an LSI Logic low profile scsi card. I'm trying to install freedos 1.1 from a floppy disk. Are there scsi drivers I can add to the disk? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
Does the SCSI card have an onboard BIOS? If so, it should provide BIOS level access to hard drives using INT 13h. You should not need device drivers to access that function. Windows wants device drivers for additional device support and performance. FreeDOS is just fine with BIOS level support. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
On 2012-12-17 20:12 (GMT-0800) Michael C. Robinson composed: I have a 4G scsi hard drive connect to an LSI Logic low profile scsi card. I'm trying to install freedos 1.1 from a floppy disk. Are there scsi drivers I can add to the disk? Most such PCI cards likely you won't need one if you just want to boot from a HD attached to it. Most have a BIOS that automatically merges into the motherboard BIOS on boot. Some really old NCR cards don't have a BIOS, but will boot from an NCR BIOS embedded in the motherboard BIOS. Those probably stopped being made a decade or more ago. For support other than HDs, you'll need drivers. For older LSI cards the driver archives are variously named NCR8XX or SYM8XX. Most common is probably the SYM8XX for which you'd need the ASPI8XX.SYS driver to start with. There's also a SYMCD.SYS for CD access, and a SYMDISK.SYS for non-INT13 devices. There should be instructions in the driver archive when you find the right one for your chip. You need to figure out which chip the card uses to figure out which driver you need. Whether the ones for older cards can still be had directly from LSI I have no idea, but they should. If not, they're probably not too hard to find. Such drivers are included in Windows installation media and built into Linux. I've not used one with DOS in quite some time. ISTR they're really slow compared to modern SATA and the latter incarnations of PATA HDs. In DOS using INT13 for I/O you might not be able to tell any speed difference though unless using benchmarking software or large data files. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
The scsi card appears to be 53C1010-66 LsiLogic where I have a Compaq 4.3 gig scsi drive connected to it. The scsi drive has no partitions on it, but I successfully low level formatted it. I searched via google and tried a copy of symdisk.sys and aspi8xx.sys, but the hard drive doesn't detect. I noticed that the card doesn't seem to the detect the hard drive if it is scanning from 0 to 15, but it works when scanning from 15 to 0. I wish scsi kernels were standardized and open sourced for freedos. The current kernel expects IDE or SATA. The hard drive is small, so using freedos is going to be ideal and I still need to test the hard disk. The controller is an ultra 3 scsi controller. I doubt that the hard disk can do that though. I could try an old version of Linux, but I'd have to install via network and/or floppy disk. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
On 2012-12-17 22:43 (GMT-0800) Michael C. Robinson composed: The scsi card appears to be 53C1010-66 LsiLogic where I have a Compaq 4.3 gig scsi drive connected to it. According to LSI's web site the product doesn't seem to exist, but according to http://listing.driveragent.com/c/pci/1000/0021/* it appears there are DOS drivers for it. I searched via google and tried a copy of symdisk.sys and aspi8xx.sys, but the hard drive doesn't detect. Yours is much much newer. I wish scsi kernels were standardized and open sourced for freedos. The current kernel expects IDE or SATA. SCSI has never been like that. The hard drive is small, so using freedos is going to be ideal and I still need to test the hard disk. Unless the newer LSI cards are vastly different from old ones, you ought to be able to use FDISK or Parted and install DOS from floppies without any driver. To install it from a non-bootable CD you'll need the ASPI and CD driver. A standard FreeDOS CD I guess would have to be considered non-bootable as long as it cannot load LSI ASPI and CD drivers. If you know how to modify iso files before burning, then you could include the drivers you need. The driver package should include an ASPI driver that can be used for additional diagnostics beyond what are in the HBA's BIOS if necessary. I could try an old version of Linux, but I'd have to install via network and/or floppy disk. You might find DOSEMU in a slim Linux distro to be faster, and easier since Linux takes care of driver requirements automatically. Network is virtually the only way I ever install Linux. Usually I set up the HD first, then use a Knoppix CD to install Grub and the installation kernel and initrd for the distro I want to install, then boot the HD to install via HTTP. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
