Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread John Hupp
Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention 
below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT

A couple more observations:

When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported the 
lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the 
minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was exactly 24 
hours before I booted up this morning.

Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP 
outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet 
segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within the 
DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.

Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g. ping 
8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.

On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS 
 client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and only 
 good command is ipconfig c:\net.

 This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway, and 
 DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even after I 
 forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP, it 
 still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as 
 freshly issued with a day to live.

 The date and time are correct on client and server.

 Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't work 
 either.  They too are meaningless.)

 On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static 
 configuration, and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.  
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP 
 initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all 
 yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two 
 identical cards, both configured the same way.

 I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I thought 
 would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

 In the meantime, in the Registry I changed 
 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 – 
 0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per 
 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx. 
 Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.

 @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date 
 since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with 
 Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

 On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your 
 DHCP server.





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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread Dave Kerber
But does your client machine know that?  I.E. do you have the DNS server
configured in the network settings?


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:42 AM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 The router provides DNS.

 On 6/16/2015 10:39 AM, Dave Kerber wrote:
  Do you have a DNS server configured?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:48 AM
  To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
  Access has been denied
 
  Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention
  below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT
 
  A couple more observations:
 
  When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported
  the
  lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the
  minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was
 exactly
  24
  hours before I booted up this morning.
 
  Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP
  outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet
  segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within
 the
  DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.
 
  Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g.
 ping
  8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.
 
  On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
  I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS
  client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and
 only
  good command is ipconfig c:\net.
 
  This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway,
 and
  DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even
 after
  I
  forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP,
 it
  still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as
  freshly issued with a day to live.
 
  The date and time are correct on client and server.
 
  Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't
 work
  either.  They too are meaningless.)
 
  On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
  I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static
  configuration, and I still get the same net use error.
 
  Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data
 available.
  Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?
 
  On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
  Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP
  initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all
  yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two
  identical cards, both configured the same way.
 
  I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I
  thought
  would be appropriate for this vintage rig.
 
  In the meantime, in the Registry I changed
  HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3
 -
  0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per
  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-
  us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx.
  Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS
 client.
 
  @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date
  since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with
  Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!
 
  On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
  Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from
  your
  DHCP server.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread John Hupp
Yes, in the static setup.  And when I have had it configured instead in 
DHCP mode, I would expect it to pick that up automatically.

On 6/16/2015 11:07 AM, Dave Kerber wrote:
 But does your client machine know that?  I.E. do you have the DNS server
 configured in the network settings?


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:42 AM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 The router provides DNS.

 On 6/16/2015 10:39 AM, Dave Kerber wrote:
 Do you have a DNS server configured?



 -Original Message-
 From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:48 AM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention
 below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT

 A couple more observations:

 When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported
 the
 lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the
 minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was
 exactly
 24
 hours before I booted up this morning.

 Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP
 outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet
 segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within
 the
 DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.

 Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g.
 ping
 8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.

 On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS
 client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and
 only
 good command is ipconfig c:\net.

 This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway,
 and
 DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even
 after
 I
 forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP,
 it
 still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as
 freshly issued with a day to live.

 The date and time are correct on client and server.

 Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't
 work
 either.  They too are meaningless.)

 On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static
 configuration, and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data
 available.
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP
 initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all
 yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two
 identical cards, both configured the same way.

 I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I
 thought
 would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

 In the meantime, in the Registry I changed
 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3
 -
 0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per
 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-
 us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx.
 Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS
 client.
 @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date
 since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with
 Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

 On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from
 your
 DHCP server.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread Dave Kerber
Do you have a DNS server configured?



 -Original Message-
 From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:48 AM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention
 below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT

 A couple more observations:

 When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported
 the
 lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the
 minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was exactly
 24
 hours before I booted up this morning.

 Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP
 outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet
 segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within the
 DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.

 Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g. ping
 8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.

 On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
  I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS
  client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and only
  good command is ipconfig c:\net.
 
  This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway, and
  DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even after
 I
  forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP, it
  still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as
  freshly issued with a day to live.
 
  The date and time are correct on client and server.
 
  Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't work
  either.  They too are meaningless.)
 
  On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
  I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static
  configuration, and I still get the same net use error.
 
  Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.
  Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?
 
  On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
  Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP
  initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all
  yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two
  identical cards, both configured the same way.
 
  I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I
 thought
  would be appropriate for this vintage rig.
 
  In the meantime, in the Registry I changed
  HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 -
  0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per
  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-
 us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx.
  Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.
 
  @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date
  since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with
  Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!
 
  On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
  Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from
 your
  DHCP server.
 
 
 


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread John Hupp
The router provides DNS.

On 6/16/2015 10:39 AM, Dave Kerber wrote:
 Do you have a DNS server configured?



 -Original Message-
 From: John Hupp [mailto:free...@prpcompany.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:48 AM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention
 below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT

 A couple more observations:

 When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported
 the
 lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the
 minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was exactly
 24
 hours before I booted up this morning.

 Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP
 outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet
 segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within the
 DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.

 Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g. ping
 8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.

 On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS
 client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and only
 good command is ipconfig c:\net.

 This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway, and
 DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even after
 I
 forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP, it
 still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as
 freshly issued with a day to live.

 The date and time are correct on client and server.

 Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't work
 either.  They too are meaningless.)

 On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static
 configuration, and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP
 initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all
 yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two
 identical cards, both configured the same way.

 I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I
 thought
 would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

 In the meantime, in the Registry I changed
 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 -
 0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per
 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-
 us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx.
 Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.

 @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date
 since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with
 Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

 On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from
 your
 DHCP server.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-16 Thread John Hupp
OK, I think now that there is more than one issue.

After reviewing the fact that older Windows PC's have great difficulties 
connecting to Vista shares, I thought then that it probably shouldn't be 
surprising that this is very difficult to impossible for the MS-DOS 
Network Client.

To test this idea, I slapped together a Win 98 machine, shared a folder, 
and found that the DOS client was able to connect and write to it just 
fine.  When I last worked with FreeDOS several years ago, I think I was 
able to connect to Win XP, but unless one of you is successfully 
connecting to Vista or newer, I am inclined to write that off as a can't do.

A separate issue: When DOS successfully connected to Win 98, ipconfig 
c:\net was still reporting that the lease was expired! And it did so 
whether I had configured DOS for DHCP or a static configuration.  And 
likewise, whether it was configured as static or DHCP, the DOS client 
could still connect to the W98 share.  The lease-expired status seems to 
be a bug.

Yet another separate issue: As I described earlier, when I set up for a 
static configuration, this is ignored.  I probably won't invest too much 
time into investigating, since I much prefer DHCP.
-

If I can't move files easily to/from the DOS client to a share on the 
Vista server, then I'll probably want to get wget and/or Arachne 
working.  But so far I just have NDIS drivers installed, and wget seems 
to require packet drivers.  I have a vague recollection that Arachne may 
also.  So I think this will be my next interest.


On 6/16/2015 9:48 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Here's a reference, by the way, on the ipconfig usage that I mention 
 below: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q183/8/58.TXT

 A couple more observations:

 When I booted up this morning, ipconfig c:\net once again reported 
 the lease expired, but the expiration time coincided exactly -- to the 
 minute -- with the bootup time, and the lease-issued time was exactly 
 24 hours before I booted up this morning.

 Thinking to dodge the DHCP lease issue, I set up with a static IP 
 outside the DHCP address scope (but still within the same subnet 
 segment).  Nonetheless ipconfig c:\net still reports an IP within 
 the DHCP scope, rather than the static IP I assigned.

 Current functionality: I can successfully ping an IP address e.g. 
 ping 8.8.8.8 but name resolution fails, so no-go on ping google.com.

 On 6/15/2015 8:25 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS 
 client.  Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and only 
 good command is ipconfig c:\net.

 This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway, and 
 DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even after 
 I forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP, 
 it still reports the lease expired. The router shows the lease as 
 freshly issued with a day to live.

 The date and time are correct on client and server.

 Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't work 
 either.  They too are meaningless.)

 On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static 
 configuration, and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.  
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP 
 initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all 
 yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two 
 identical cards, both configured the same way.

 I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I 
 thought would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

 In the meantime, in the Registry I changed 
 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 – 
 0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per 
 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx. 
 Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.

 @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date 
 since I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with 
 Wireshark.  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

 On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from 
 your DHCP server.






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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread John Hupp
Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP initialization 
completes without error, running ipconfig /all yields No DHCP data 
available.  I get the same result from two identical cards, both 
configured the same way.

I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I thought 
would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

In the meantime, in the Registry I changed 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 – 0, 
which is Send LM  NTLM responses per 
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx. 
Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.

@ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date since I 
never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with Wireshark.  But it 
may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your DHCP 
 server.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread Roberto Fazzalari
you can install a normal client on a computer and make and reord the
transition data using wireshark, and compare, or just sniff the data and
see if for example yhe request exit well formed from client, in some cases
the error code in the packet data is more explained that what you can see
at application level.


2015-06-15 0:15 GMT+02:00 John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com:

  Yes, but in this case I'm not seeing that have any successful case to
 compare against.

 On 6/14/2015 6:01 PM, Roberto Fazzalari wrote:

 I use to resolve this kind of problem by monitoring the network traffic;
 capture the traffic data on the network wen the transaction go well aand
 when not and compare it, in this way you can understand more, in the past i
 use to do in this way to resolv problems.

 2015-06-14 22:22 GMT+02:00 Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:
 
  I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
  TCP/IP via DHCP.
 
  But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
  a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
  Error 5: Access has been denied.
  ...
  Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same
 account.
 
  I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry ... but this made no
 difference.
 
  Anyone know how to fix this?

 Don't use Vista ... just use Linux!   :-))

 (Seriously, it's not wrong to dual boot. I know you want to use DOS,
 which is fine, but you really might have better luck with
 ZipSlack/Slackware 11.0 [2006] atop UMSDOS:
 ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/ )


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread Roberto Fazzalari
bt you write: Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the
same account., record the transaction on that machine and compare.


2015-06-15 0:15 GMT+02:00 John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com:

  Yes, but in this case I'm not seeing that have any successful case to
 compare against.

 On 6/14/2015 6:01 PM, Roberto Fazzalari wrote:

 I use to resolve this kind of problem by monitoring the network traffic;
 capture the traffic data on the network wen the transaction go well aand
 when not and compare it, in this way you can understand more, in the past i
 use to do in this way to resolv problems.

 2015-06-14 22:22 GMT+02:00 Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:
 
  I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
  TCP/IP via DHCP.
 
  But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
  a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
  Error 5: Access has been denied.
  ...
  Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same
 account.
 
  I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry ... but this made no
 difference.
 
  Anyone know how to fix this?

 Don't use Vista ... just use Linux!   :-))

 (Seriously, it's not wrong to dual boot. I know you want to use DOS,
 which is fine, but you really might have better luck with
 ZipSlack/Slackware 11.0 [2006] atop UMSDOS:
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread Roberto Fazzalari
for example you can do this by looking at the data coming from the client
network interface sniffing with wireshark outgoing data from the client

2015-06-15 6:09 GMT+02:00 Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com:

 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your DHCP
 server.

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com wrote:
  Though my initial interest (and testing) was oriented toward moving
  files on the LAN, I also find that I cannot ping web sites.  I get
  DGN0217: Remote name cannot be resolved.
 
  On 6/14/2015 6:14 PM, John Hupp wrote:
  Thanks, but making that change did not make a difference.
 
  I have also now edited the HOSTS file to add the server there, due to
  what I read at
  ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q130/5/38.TXT about not
  being able to ping the server.  So I can indeed ping the server now,
  but access is still denied for the net use command.
 
  On 6/14/2015 3:06 PM, TJ Edmister wrote:
  Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista?
 
  HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
  There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1
 
  On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
  wrote:
 
  I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
  TCP/IP via DHCP.
 
  But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password
 (with
  a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
  Error 5: Access has been denied.
 
  Likewise, net view \\server yields the same error.
 
  And net view yields Error 6118: The list of servers for this
  workgroup is not currently available.
 
  Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same
  account.
 
  I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per
 
 https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008
 ),
 
  but this made no difference.
 
  Anyone know how to fix this?
 
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread Don Flowers
Forgive me if I didn't catch it, but are you able to ping successfully w/o
a full network setup (just connect via packet driver and DHCP) and are you
able to use wget or fdnpkg and download a file?

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6/15/2015 10:38 AM, Dave Kerber wrote:
  Are you trying to connect by dns name, or by IP address?  To take one
  level of possible trouble out of the equation, try connecting by IP addr.
 
 
 If the ipconfig doesn't show any IP info on the host, it doesn't matter
 how you try to connect from that host, either way it has to fail. Your
 approach would only work in case just the DNS server info wouldn't be
 properly set.

 But the really strange thing is that he states that he doesn't even get
 a proper response when setting a static IP on the host, with ipconfig
 still claiming that it doesn't get info from a DHCP server. That
 indicates that there is rather something more basic amiss...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread Dave Kerber
Are you trying to connect by dns name, or by IP address?  To take one
level of possible trouble out of the equation, try connecting by IP addr.



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 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:20 PM
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5:
 Access has been denied

 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static configuration,
 and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
  Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP
  initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all
 yields
  No DHCP data available.  I get the same result from two identical
  cards, both configured the same way.
 
  I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I thought
  would be appropriate for this vintage rig.
 
  In the meantime, in the Registry I changed
  HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 -
 0,
  which is Send LM  NTLM responses per
  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-
 us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx. Then
  I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.
 
  @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date since
  I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with Wireshark.
  But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!
 
  On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
  Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your
  DHCP server.
 


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-15 Thread John Hupp
I found out that ipconfig usage is not as expected for the DOS client.  
Ipconfig /all is meaningless. In my case, the one and only good 
command is ipconfig c:\net.

This then reports (now again under DHCP), an IP address, gateway, and 
DNS server as expected.  But it reports Lease Expired.  Even after I 
forced the router to give it a brand new lease on a different IP, it 
still reports the lease expired.  The router shows the lease as freshly 
issued with a day to live.

The date and time are correct on client and server.

Ideas?  (And no, ipconfig /release or ipconfig /renew won't work 
either.  They too are meaningless.)

On 6/15/2015 12:19 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 I just tried changing the DOS client from DHCP to static 
 configuration, and I still get the same net use error.

 Furthermore ipconfig /all still reports No DHCP data available.  
 Shouldn't it report my static configuration info?

 On 6/15/2015 11:46 AM, John Hupp wrote:
 Fundamentals -- you may be onto something.  Though TCP/IP 
 initialization completes without error, running ipconfig /all 
 yields No DHCP data available. I get the same result from two 
 identical cards, both configured the same way.

 I do note that both cards are old non-PNP ISA cards, which I thought 
 would be appropriate for this vintage rig.

 In the meantime, in the Registry I changed 
 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel=3 – 
 0, which is Send LM  NTLM responses per 
 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj852207%28v=ws.10%29.aspx. 
 Then I rebooted.  But I still get the same error on the DOS client.

 @ Roberto Fazzalari: I have been avoiding your approach to date since 
 I never had more than a rank novice's acquaintance with Wireshark.  
 But it may be that I'll have to get reacquainted!

 On 6/15/2015 12:09 AM, Louis Santillan wrote:
 Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your 
 DHCP server.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread John Hupp
Thanks, but making that change did not make a difference.

I have also now edited the HOSTS file to add the server there, due to 
what I read at 
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q130/5/38.TXT about not 
being able to ping the server.  So I can indeed ping the server now, but 
access is still denied for the net use command.

On 6/14/2015 3:06 PM, TJ Edmister wrote:
 Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista?

 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
 There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1

 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:

 I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
 TCP/IP via DHCP.

 But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
 a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
 Error 5: Access has been denied.

 Likewise, net view \\server yields the same error.

 And net view yields Error 6118: The list of servers for this
 workgroup is not currently available.

 Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same account.

 I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per
 https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008),
 but this made no difference.

 Anyone know how to fix this?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread TJ Edmister
Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista?

HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com  
wrote:

 I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
 TCP/IP via DHCP.

 But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
 a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
 Error 5: Access has been denied.

 Likewise, net view \\server yields the same error.

 And net view yields Error 6118: The list of servers for this
 workgroup is not currently available.

 Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same account.

 I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per
 https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008),
 but this made no difference.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com wrote:

 I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
 TCP/IP via DHCP.

 But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
 a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
 Error 5: Access has been denied.
 ...
 Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same account.

 I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry ... but this made no difference.

 Anyone know how to fix this?

Don't use Vista ... just use Linux!   :-))

(Seriously, it's not wrong to dual boot. I know you want to use DOS,
which is fine, but you really might have better luck with
ZipSlack/Slackware 11.0 [2006] atop UMSDOS:
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread Roberto Fazzalari
I use to resolve this kind of problem by monitoring the network traffic;
capture the traffic data on the network wen the transaction go well aand
when not and compare it, in this way you can understand more, in the past i
use to do in this way to resolv problems.

2015-06-14 22:22 GMT+02:00 Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:
 
  I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
  TCP/IP via DHCP.
 
  But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
  a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
  Error 5: Access has been denied.
  ...
  Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same account.
 
  I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry ... but this made no
 difference.
 
  Anyone know how to fix this?

 Don't use Vista ... just use Linux!   :-))

 (Seriously, it's not wrong to dual boot. I know you want to use DOS,
 which is fine, but you really might have better luck with
 ZipSlack/Slackware 11.0 [2006] atop UMSDOS:
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread John Hupp
Though my initial interest (and testing) was oriented toward moving 
files on the LAN, I also find that I cannot ping web sites.  I get 
DGN0217: Remote name cannot be resolved.

On 6/14/2015 6:14 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 Thanks, but making that change did not make a difference.

 I have also now edited the HOSTS file to add the server there, due to 
 what I read at 
 ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q130/5/38.TXT about not 
 being able to ping the server.  So I can indeed ping the server now, 
 but access is still denied for the net use command.

 On 6/14/2015 3:06 PM, TJ Edmister wrote:
 Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista?

 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
 There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1

 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:

 I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
 TCP/IP via DHCP.

 But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
 a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
 Error 5: Access has been denied.

 Likewise, net view \\server yields the same error.

 And net view yields Error 6118: The list of servers for this
 workgroup is not currently available.

 Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same 
 account.

 I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per
 https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008),
  

 but this made no difference.

 Anyone know how to fix this?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, Error 5: Access has been denied

2015-06-14 Thread Louis Santillan
Be sure that you have a good IP, gateway, and DNS setting from your DHCP server.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com wrote:
 Though my initial interest (and testing) was oriented toward moving
 files on the LAN, I also find that I cannot ping web sites.  I get
 DGN0217: Remote name cannot be resolved.

 On 6/14/2015 6:14 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 Thanks, but making that change did not make a difference.

 I have also now edited the HOSTS file to add the server there, due to
 what I read at
 ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/misc1/BUSSYS/LANMAN/KB/Q130/5/38.TXT about not
 being able to ping the server.  So I can indeed ping the server now,
 but access is still denied for the net use command.

 On 6/14/2015 3:06 PM, TJ Edmister wrote:
 Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista?

 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
 There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1

 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp free...@prpcompany.com
 wrote:

 I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with
 TCP/IP via DHCP.

 But when I try net use z: \\server\share and enter the password (with
 a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get
 Error 5: Access has been denied.

 Likewise, net view \\server yields the same error.

 And net view yields Error 6118: The list of servers for this
 workgroup is not currently available.

 Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same
 account.

 I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per
 https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008),

 but this made no difference.

 Anyone know how to fix this?


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