Re: [Freedos-user] Incompatibility with EMSDSK #3

2009-06-24 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 DEVICE=C:\DEVS\RDOSUMB.COM #19 *
 DEVICEHIGH=C:\DEVS\JEMMEX.EXE A20METHOD:FAST FRAME=E000 VERBOSE NOE801 NOE820 
 NORAM D=0 VCPI
 DOS=UMB,HIGH
 DEVICEHIGH=C:\DEVS\EMSDSK.EXE 4364 /c02
...
  6 file(s)101,406 bytes
  0 dir(s) 325,632 bytes free
  Note the reported free value.
...
  It seems that FreeDOS does not work well with real-mode 
 UMBs, since EMSDSK no longer shows any problems if I rem the 
 first line in CONFIG.SYS and change the NORAM option to RAM. 
  Looking into UMBs (when they are real-mode), I found 
 command.com there, possibly overlapping the EMS frame area. 

I do not know how command.com came there (try using SHELL
instead of SHELLHIGH) but UMBs always cause a risk of
using areas of RAM that you should not use. This happens
both with real-mode UMBs and with JEMM386 / JEMMEX. You
also use very forcing command line options for JEMMEX
so maybe you even force it to use areas it should not.

This can mean that access to disk/sound/network/USB/...
will trigger something which overwrites your UMB, etc.

Try finding a suitable X=... option for your JEMMEX and/or
suitable options for RDOSUMB (or try UMBPCI) to avoid any
problematic areas in your UMB. Note that EMSDSK might be
able to work without page EMS frame, giving you more UMB.

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Incompatibility with EMSDSK #3

2009-06-24 Thread Christian Masloch
 DEVICE=C:\DEVS\RDOSUMB.COM #19 *
 DEVICEHIGH=C:\DEVS\JEMMEX.EXE A20METHOD:FAST FRAME=E000 VERBOSE NOE801  
 NOE820 NORAM D=0 VCPI
 DOS=UMB,HIGH
 DEVICEHIGH=C:\DEVS\EMSDSK.EXE 4364 /c02
 ...
  6 file(s)101,406 bytes
  0 dir(s) 325,632 bytes free
  Note the reported free value.
 ...
  It seems that FreeDOS does not work well with real-mode
 UMBs, since EMSDSK no longer shows any problems if I rem the
 first line in CONFIG.SYS and change the NORAM option to RAM.
  Looking into UMBs (when they are real-mode), I found
 command.com there, possibly overlapping the EMS frame area.

If any UMBs (provided by RDOSUMB) overlap the EMS page frame, this is a  
certain source of errors. Using your current configuration, inspect which  
areas of the UMA are provided as UMB and whether any of these areas  
contains or crosses segments E000h to EFFFh (where the 64 KiB large EMS  
page frame is). One of the MEM options might show you the (hexadecimal)  
segments and their size. (If you don't know how to look at the segment and  
size values, send a list of your UMBs with these values to the list.)

  If I omit the FRAME option in CONFIG.SYS, then I see thismessage  
 during boot:

 *** EMS RAMdisk v1.9I (FU - 08/98): ems get frame error

  and EMSDSK does not install. The memory map in this caseshows no  
 EMM0.

 Note that EMSDSK might be
 able to work without page EMS frame, giving you more UMB.

Apparently not. You might of course try FRAME=NONE first and see if EMSDSK  
shows the same message. However many other EMS programs don't work without  
page frame anyway so I won't recommend running such a system. If you don't  
use any other programs that require EMS, a better option might be to  
disable EMS completely (JEMM option NOEMS, and remove FRAME=) and replace  
EMSDSK by XMSDSK (or the open source RDISK, which also runs with XMS).

Regards,
Christian

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[Freedos-user] cdrom

2009-06-24 Thread Menuhin Saitov
Hi,
i have installed successfully freedos on Compaq lte 5100 I took the 
hardisk and connecetd with usb-ide adaptor and with qmeu installed the 
system on it, not sure if the system  neede it fat 16 partition   but know 
it works.
My issue is to set the cdrom drive.
in fdconfig.sys is one entry

123?DEVICEHIGH=c:\fdos\bin\xcdom.sys /d:FDCD0001

in autoexec.bat put a entry

SHCDX86.COM /d:FDCD0001

but he cant find the driver whats wrong.

Thx in advance

Menuhin

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Re: [Freedos-user] cdrom

2009-06-24 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Menuhin Saitov schreef:
 Hi,
 i have installed successfully freedos on Compaq lte 5100 I took the 
 hardisk and connecetd with usb-ide adaptor and with qmeu installed the 
 system on it, not sure if the system  neede it fat 16 partition   but know 
 it works.
 My issue is to set the cdrom drive.
 in fdconfig.sys is one entry

 123?DEVICEHIGH=c:\fdos\bin\xcdom.sys /d:FDCD0001
   
Was there a typing error here? as it's normally XCDROM.SYS. As the 
FreeDOS distribution is rather old right now, I'd recommend getting an 
updated yet renamed version of the cdrom driver at
[ http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/drivers.zip ]. Possibly you'd like a 
new version of SHSUCDX as well as the 8086-version contained a bug 
sometime if I remember correctly.
[ http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/shcdx33d.zip ]

You can see if the UIDE.SYS driver loaded by checking if the FDCD0001 
devicename is known to DOS:

IF EXIST FDCD0001 ECHO CD-ROM driver loaded, please load SHSUCDX as well 
to assign a drive letter ( SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001)



Bernd

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[Freedos-user] Updated RDISK.COM Available.

2009-06-24 Thread Jack
The RDISK driver is now a .COM file and has been improved.
RDISK can still be loaded as-before from CONFIG.SYS, or it
can now load from AUTOEXEC.BAT and by user command without
needing DEVLOAD.

When loaded by AUTOEXEC or later, RDISK can now accept the
/:[letter]  switch specifying a desired drive letter, e.g.
/:Q assigns drive Q: for all RDISK files.   Without any /:
switch, the next free DOS drive letter is used, as-before.
RDISK is a lot more useful and flexible when users can set
their own desired drive letters!

RDISK still supports from 2-MB to 2-GB of memory and still
takes 3 sectors [1536 bytes exactly!] on boot diskettes.
RDISK is part of the DRIVERS.ZIP file that is available at
johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] cdrom

2009-06-24 Thread Menuhin Saitov
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Bernd Blaauw wrote:

 Was there a typing error here? as it's normally XCDROM.SYS.
YES it was i don't have internet on the laptop.
 As the
 FreeDOS distribution is rather old right now, I'd recommend getting an
 updated yet renamed version of the cdrom driver at
 [ http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/drivers.zip ]. Possibly you'd like a
 new version of SHSUCDX as well as the 8086-version contained a bug
 sometime if I remember correctly.
 [ http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/file/shcdx33d.zip ]

 You can see if the UIDE.SYS driver loaded by checking if the FDCD0001
 devicename is known to DOS:

 IF EXIST FDCD0001 ECHO CD-ROM driver loaded, please load SHSUCDX as well
 to assign a drive letter ( SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001)



 Bernd

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[Freedos-user] freedos on dosemu.

2009-06-24 Thread kurt godel
Of course, if freedos is on dosemu on linux, you may still have the beauty
of dos but not the blazing speed; there
are search algorithims, etc, that can take *hours* on bloatware, but minutes
in dos. The answer is to keep the
dos offline; not so strange. I dual boot linux and windows, and go to the
extent of *removing* the nic driver from
windoze; this because of that always on  aspect of ethernet(you have
updates available). The filesystem in ubuntu makes it real easy to send and
recieve files to/from windows.--kurtwb2...@gmail.com.
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