[FRIAM] Snow Removers!

[Owen Densmore]

(This is Santa Fe specific)

Does anyone have a recommendation, a company or individual that can do
snow removal well? I mainly have a semi-circle driveway and shoveling out
around the front door and steps and mailbox.

I know it sounds odd asking so early, but we've found good snow folks get
taken rather quickly.

Thanks,

-- Owen
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Re: [FRIAM] Perhaps of Interest to the (other) old timers here!

[Owen Densmore]

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:48 AM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> Thanks, Steve! I enjoy these slices of history and peeking into the
> discussions of the time on fundamental issues.
>
> Owen, were you involved with the Interscript project mentioned near the
> end of the story? Interscript being the scripting of dynamic Interpress
> documents which later spun out to Postscript.
>
> https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interscript/IntroductionToInterscript.pdf
>
> As mentioned in story, the vision they had still hasn't been delivered.
> Maybe JavaScript for the DOM or perhaps agentscript.org? :-)
>
>  “History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme.”
>

Actually, IIRC, JAM, a dev command language, was the precursor of PS.  I
think that's the right name. It could also manage the key pad, a small
device with I think 5 keys. And they were often chorded (multiple fingers
as well as just one). JAM could use this as well as the keyboard. Seriously
hip devs (Chuck and John among them). Why? They could have more memory for
code!

But the true birth of PS was the paper Chuck and John for siggraph
outlining an abstraction so to speak of PS, possibly a JAM api. The day
after the conference they left Xerox because now the PS architecture was
published, thus unprotected .. er open sourced!

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Re: [FRIAM] Glasses in Santa Fe

[Owen Densmore]

Oops, I wasn't clear: I have a recent prescription from my Dr at Eye
Associates. Now I need to get a new pair of glasses.

On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 9:30 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> Dr Javid at Eye Associates.  They work seamlessly with Medicare.
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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[FRIAM] Glasses in Santa Fe

[Owen Densmore]

Hi! I need new glasses and wonder if any of us have a suggestion for a good
optometrist in Santa Fe. Thanks!

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[FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

[Owen Densmore]

In aj NYTimes article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/science/astronomy-webb-telescope.html
..there is the usual discussion on "seeing back to the first several
millennia".

But, and be kind, why haven't these photons already sped past us? I suppose
it is because the exanssion is uniformly everywhere, we just kept ahead of
them? That seems unlikely given the expansion is slower than light.

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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Join SFI for two lectures by Mathematician Steven Strogatz, September 21st and 22nd

[Owen Densmore]

Do you know where the videos are? I'd love to watch them.

-- Owen

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:51 PM Tom Johnson  wrote:

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[FRIAM] Uber in Santa Fe

[Owen Densmore]

Is Uber still around here in Santa Fe? I tried the iphone app and it showed
no cars,

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Re: [FRIAM] Orbit - Webb/NASA

[Owen Densmore]

Here's the NASA info. Use the hamburger menu for lots of details.
https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/index.html

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Owen Densmore  wrote:

> The Webb telescope is soon to launch. There are lots of articles but none
> so clear on both its orbit and its incredibly complex deployment. I found
> this which does a good job:
> https://webb.nasa.gov/content/about/orbit.html
>
> It has two good animations on the orbit and on the deployment.
>
>  -- Owen
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[FRIAM] Orbit - Webb/NASA

[Owen Densmore]

The Webb telescope is soon to launch. There are lots of articles but none
so clear on both its orbit and its incredibly complex deployment. I found
this which does a good job:
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/about/orbit.html

It has two good animations on the orbit and on the deployment.

 -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Your Nabble Forum

[Owen Densmore]

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To: 


We are downsizing Nabble to one server.  If you want to preserve your forum:

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Your Nabble Forum

[Owen Densmore]

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Re: [FRIAM] NM health officials launch free at-home COVID-19 testing » Albuquerque Journal

[Owen Densmore]

Fascinating! Let us know if it is awkward!

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 12:38 PM Tom Johnson  wrote:

> I ordered a test kit out of curiosity.
>
>
> https://www.abqjournal.com/1529209/nm-health-officials-launch-free-at-home-covid-19-testing.html?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=news-alert
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Re: [FRIAM] Masks and Face Shields

[Owen Densmore]

I probably missed it, but: Where can you find reasonably effective masks of
the sort described?

Size appears to be an issue for me as well. I bought a good multilayer,
filter pocket mask. It fits tightly and has a nose wire. But it is too
small from nose to chin. One size does not fit all. I got a large mask and
it does help but it is not as well built as the first mask.

I haven't had much luck finding a website that has multiple sizes, filter
pockets, good descriptions etc. Any suggestions?

   -- Owen

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 4:43 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙  wrote:

> This excellent description landed in my spam folder. So it's likely it did
> for others as well. Hopefully, the filters that reroute Frank's emails
> won't be the ones that reroute mine.
>
> The "80% of viral particles from entering your nose and mouth" link in the
> Conversation article was from 2010, but it talks about the 20-1000 nm
> range: https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744
>
> Your link to the built environment website is much more generally
> informative. Thanks.
>
> On 8/17/20 7:43 PM, Frank Chambers wrote:
> > I have been following reports on masks, face shields, and social
> distancing with interest. The analysis is mostly fluid mechanics and
> filtration. My specialty is fluid mechanics and I have conducted research
> on automotive air filtration. I have served on the SAE Air Filter Test Code
> Committee and been an expert witness on air filter testing. To start with,
> the symptomatic who are coughing and sneezing are producing droplets that
> are about 5 microns. The asymptomatic who are expelling droplets while
> breathing, speaking, and singing are expelling droplets which are around 1
> micron. The 6 foot social distancing rule is based on very old research
> about how far 5 micron droplets travel before falling to the floor.
> >
> > I got concerned when I learned about the 1 micron droplets because of a
> rule of thumb used for measurements using optics. Laser Doppler Anemometry
> and Particle Imaging Velocimetry measure turbulent air flow using what are
> called ''seed particles" to reflect laser light. One really measures
> particle velocity, but makes sure that the particles are small enough to
> move with the air. The rule of thumb is that 1 micron particles follow
> laboratory air flows very well. Thus for a face shield, the gross 5 micron
> particles from those with symptoms sneezing impact on the shield, but the 1
> micron particles of the asymptomatic move with the air that is sucked in or
> out by breathing behind the shield. The small particles just flow around
> the corners of the shield. These aerosol particles can remain airborne and
> travel through buildings. Shields only are effective for the larger
> droplets. When Sen. Daschle received his envelope of anthrax powder, the
> particles were about 1 micron. That
> > indicated that it was sent by someone who knew what they were doing.
> >
> > These droplets of mucus surrounding virus particles change size as a
> function of humidity as they evaporate, etc. The importance of asymptomatic
> transmission has been becoming more recognized, but there still are
> questions about how long the aerosols remain viable.
> >
> > On masks, there are different types of N95 masks. The basic standard is
> that they filter particles which are 0.3 microns and larger at 95%
> efficiency. They capture both the 5 micron and 1 micron droplets well The
> N95 masks work very well for medical purposes except for the ones which
> have a bypass valve making it easier to breathe out. These let out the
> virus you are expelling. Surgical masks and homemade masks also work, but
> not as well. They do a good job on larger particles, but are not as good on
> the small ones, though they still are useful, even with filtration
> efficiencies of 40 and 50%. There is a pretty good, very comprehensive
> report on masks. It does, however, give more credence than deserved to the
> study done at Duke which indicated gaiters were worse than nothing. A story
> about this in the Washington Post generated lots of publicity this past
> week. I read the report carefully and they were not even doing standard
> efficiency measurements, ratioing downstream to
> > upstream measurements. They just measured downstream and compared to
> measurements without a mask. One has to be careful, because there are a lot
> of non-peer-reviewed reports coming out from those who are novices at
> filtration. It is easy to mess up, for the filtration efficiency can be a
> strong function of the velocity through the filtration media. If one can’t
> measure flow rate well, one can’t measure filter performance accurately.
> >
> >
> http://built-envi.com/what-kind-of-mask-should-i-be-wearing-to-protect-against-covid-19/
> >
> >
> > Prof. Linsey Marr of Virginia Tech has been writing and been interviewed
> a lot on these topics. I have talked with her and she is pretty good.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frank W. Chambers
> > 2 

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Correction on Date- June 16: Join Us Tomorrow for a Social Diagnosis and Prognosis of COVID-19 with James A. Trostle

[Owen Densmore]

Thanks Tom.

And dontcha love the irony:

[image: Snap.06.15.20-12.40.53.jpg]


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:18 AM Tom Johnson  wrote:

> Perhaps of interest.
> Tom
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[FRIAM] Fwd: Thank you for your support; help us reopen.

[Owen Densmore]

NM folks: From Susan's Wine & Spirits is a plea to sign this petition. It's
quite fast and sensible I think.

*From: *"TastingsAtSusan's" 
*Subject: **Thank you for your support; help us reopen.*
*Date: *April 22, 2020 at 5:08:24 PM MDT
*To: *"TastingsAtSusan's" 

All of us at Susan’s Fine Wine and Spirits say a heartfelt “Thank you” to
all our loyal customers who continue to call us and enquire about ordering.

Unfortunately right now we are still firmly closed for business. While we
have been working with a coalition of independent liquor store owners in
New Mexico to get the closure lifted, we do believe that if you will stand
together with us, we can make serious headway towards providing you the
service you deserve with contactless or minimal-contact sales.

Please support us by signing the petition to have us open and/or be able to
serve you. You can do that by clicking on the link below:

https://www.change.org/p/governor-michelle-lujan-grisham-reopen-independent-liquor-stores-and-or-allow-curbside-or-home-delivery-in-new-mexico-no-donation-needed-only-signatures


Once again, thank you and with your support we hope to serve you soon.

—Your friends at Susan’s
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Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

[Owen Densmore]

Nicely done David.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:35 AM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> I believe the cultural divide between China and the US is bigger than the
> cultural divide between US and EU. At the moment I'm reading "River Town"
> from Peter Hessler, an American who spent 2 years for the Peace Corps as an
> English teacher in Fuling, Sichuan. Sichuan is located in the west of China
> and it is known for Pandas and spicy food.
>
> The book is a few years old. Nevertheless Peter reports that many Chinese
> back then saw both Hitler and Mao as great leaders (!), despite their
> crimes and their millions of victims. Some even confuse the dictator in
> Charlie Chaplin's movie "The Great Dictator" with the real Hitler. Of
> course in the US and in the EU nobody shares this view.
>
> Peter also reports about the strong effects of lifelong propaganda from
> the communist party of China. In Europe we have propaganda as well, but it
> is mostly in form of marketing and advertising for corporations and their
> products. Advertising for political parties only happens during elections
> for limited periods of time. We have freedom of speech in EU & US, but
> there is no freedom of speech in China. I believe that's a major difference
> between EU & US and China.
>
> -J.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Prof David West 
> Date: 4/12/20 20:52 (GMT+01:00)
> To: friam@redfish.com
> Subject: [FRIAM] anthropological observations
>
> I have been in Amsterdam for the past year and had the opportunity to put
> on my anthropologist's hat and observe cultural differences in reaction to
> the Covid-19 virus. I returned to the US two weeks ago and just completed a
> two-day auto journey from Wisconsin to Utah — also in full ethnographic
> research mode.
>
> My "research methodology" is typical for anthropology, observation,
> conversations with as many people from as many different backgrounds as
> possible, reading newspapers — most importantly, small local publications —
> and, in the US, listening to radio broadcasts — again mostly local stations
> including lots of country western and even religious stations in addition
> to NPR, CBS, and Fox radio (I could not find CNN radio).  I was trying to
> gain insights into the population of those who listen to / read the
> different sources, as well as attitudes of media to their audience. Both
> country-western and religious stations reflect the mostly rural populations
> of Nevada, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, and Utah along
> my route.
>
> Some observations:
>
> 1) Covid-19 Numbers. Mainstream media in the US gives you opinion,
> analysis, and interpretation with just enough numbers to "justify" the
> conclusions. They are woefully short on "raw" or complete numbers. In
> contrast, European media and local media in the US provide numbers with no
> analysis or interpretation. And reasonably complete, e.g. total number
> tested, number tested negative, number tested positive, hospitalizations,
> available beds, used beds, available respirators, used respirators,
> specific outbreak loci, including jails and prisons.
>
> CONCLUSION: mainstream media outlets in the US assume their audience is
> composed of idiots incapable of making sense of the data and in need of
> "guidance" and "leadership" while European and rural US information sources
> presume a basic level of competence in their audiences.
>
> 2) Models, projections and actual. In Europe I encountered almost none of
> the "the models predict and hence we are doomed unless ..." kind of
> articles that seem to dominate US mainstream media. Instead, "spreadsheet
> models" with data were published in tables by date, country, and raw
> number. European readers were left to make their own conclusions about how
> Netherlands data compared to Italian (for example) and make projections or
> draw conclusions as appropriate.
>
> In local newspapers in Nevada, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Nebraska I saw
> articles that compared projected numbers from the models touted by CDC,
> Fauci, et.al. with actual local numbers. Local numbers varied from
> national model projections by as much as -50% and never less than -20%.
> (That is actual was dramatically lower than projected.)
>
> I saw and heard numerous editorial commentaries with regard the
> discrepancy between what the 'experts" were saying and what was locally
> observed and questioning why the variance. This leads immediately to
> questions about "hidden agendas" on the part of the Federal government and
> the "experts."
>
> CONCLUSION: A population that already mistrusts the Federal government and
> the"intelligentsia" is given one more reason, backed by hard data, for that
> mistrust. Also very clear — the population is NOT anti-science but IS very
> mistrustful of "authoritarian scientists" — those prone to saying "you
> wouldn't understand, but I do and you should trust me."
>
> 3) Medical science. In the past two months I have seen around a dozen
> 

[FRIAM] Coronavirus vs Flu

[Owen Densmore]

I'm reading an NYTimes piece

on the Coronavirus containing:

But one of the attendees, a public health student, had had enough.
Exasperated, she rattled off a set of statistics.

The virus had killed about 1,100 worldwide and infected around a dozen in
the United States. Alarming, but a much more common illness, influenza,
kills about 400,000 people every year, including 34,200 Americans last flu
season and 61,099 the year before.


I had looked that up previously and was also puzzled .. Flu is way more
deadly .. those numbers are staggering.

The article was less on the mortality rates etc but on:
Coronavirus ‘Hits All the Hot Buttons’ for How We Misjudge Risk
.. and goes on to explain the lopsided response.

BTW: the Flu numbers were a wakeup call! I hope we all have one!

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] MicroBit

[Owen Densmore]

This is the tiny, but feature packed, chip we discussed at Saveur last
week: https://microbit.org/guide/features/. Great learning tool.

It is surprisingly capable .. it can "chat" to other microbits .. let them
"swarm". It is programmable with "blocks", python, javascript.

> 25 individually-programmable LEDs
> 2 programmable buttons
> Physical connection pins
> Light and temperature sensors
> Motion sensors (accelerometer and compass)
> Wireless Communication, via Radio and Bluetooth
> USB interface


You use a browser based simulator to write programs, loading them to the
microbit via usb cable. A $20 starter package has the microbit, a usb
cable, and a battery pack for using the microbit disconnected from your
computer.
  https://www.amazon.com/micro-bit-BBC2546862-Micro-go/dp/B01G8X7VM2/

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Venue on January 3rd

[Owen Densmore]

Sounds good .. parking!

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 6:35 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> I thought Saveur worked well.  I suggest retuning there next week.
> Objections?
>
> Frank
>
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>
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> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] IEEE Computer Society's Top 12 Technology Trends for 2020

[Owen Densmore]

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:23 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> These people do
> https://www.cmu.edu/epp/
>
How so?

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[FRIAM] A not too bad NYTimes "explainer" on Brexit & today's vote in Britain

[Owen Densmore]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/world/europe/what-is-brexit.html


It's interesting to see the parallel between the UK and the US.
Conservatives: In power & an idiot leader
Progressives: Many factions with scary "socialism" as a tag.
Moderates: Neither of the above represent them!

And in the UK, an unpopular "opposition leader" at the helm scaring away
the moderates. US does not have the same concept of the opposition leader.
But then we have a huge number of opposition candidates many of whom might
scare away moderate voters.

Disaster!

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Re: [FRIAM] Cosmos, Quantum, and Consciousness: Is Science Doomed to Leave Some Questions Unanswered?

[Owen Densmore]

Hi Nick. Medium is a reasonable way to publish. It has evolved quite a bit,
starting as a "story centric" page builder. By that they mean: Think of
your story, not blog configurations etc. Just write.

I used it to post three techie articles, and have a few stories in mind for
more.

Now they are also an aggregation service. Scientific American often
publishes there, as the OP shows.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:23 AM Merle Lefkoff 
wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Medium has a few stars.  All young and searching.  Sometimes there are
> gems.
>
> I have published on Medium.
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 6:55 PM Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Owen,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is “Medium” something I should subscribe to?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
>> Densmore
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2019 11:47 AM
>> *To:* Complexity Coffee Group 
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Cosmos, Quantum, and Consciousness: Is Science Doomed
>> to Leave Some Questions Unanswered?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick, thought you'd be interested. This is not a troll, of course science
>> cannot answer everything .. but it was interesting to see the narrative.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://medium.com/scientific-american/cosmos-quantum-and-consciousness-is-science-doomed-to-leave-some-questions-unanswered-d68f1feb7e45
>>
>>
>>
>>-- Owen
>>
>>
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[FRIAM] Cosmos, Quantum, and Consciousness: Is Science Doomed to Leave Some Questions Unanswered?

[Owen Densmore]

Nick, thought you'd be interested. This is not a troll, of course science
cannot answer everything .. but it was interesting to see the narrative.

https://medium.com/scientific-american/cosmos-quantum-and-consciousness-is-science-doomed-to-leave-some-questions-unanswered-d68f1feb7e45

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[FRIAM] Painter

[Owen Densmore]

Hi all! Sorry to be off-topic .. but we need a painter to paint our porch.
Anyone know of a Santa Fe painter they recommend?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Is Solar Geoengineering Crazy, or Just Crazy Enough to Work?

[Owen Densmore]

This isn't the first extreme solution to global warming I've seen but it's
pretty interesting.

https://medium.com/fast-company/is-solar-geoengineering-crazy-or-just-crazy-enough-to-work-dc7e511e1fd6

Basically, by all measures, our trying to reverse climate change via
controls and rational behavior is too late. Even if all of use became sane,
too late!

So solutions are getting pretty extreme.

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[FRIAM] Physicists discover time may move in discrete ‘chunks’

[Owen Densmore]

Interesting work being done at SFI on how processes progress through time:

https://medium.com/predict/physicists-discover-time-can-move-in-discrete-chunks-ec5e826a7395

The paper is here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-09542-x

A quote from the medium.com article:

The authors stumbled on the necessity of hidden states and hidden timesteps
while searching for the most energy-efficient way to flip a bit of
information in a computer.

That investigation — part of a larger effort to understand the
thermodynamics of computation — revealed that there is no direct way to
implement a map that both sends 1 to 0 and also sends 0 to 1. Rather, in
order to flip a bit of information, the bit must proceed through at least
one hidden state and involve at least three hidden time steps.


Thermodynamics turns up in the weirdest places!

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] sniffing around

[Owen Densmore]

Oh dear, how easily we are led astray!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:09 PM Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Schnuppern, ist ihr Plan? nuqDaq wa SoHvaD?
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 6:58 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <
> alfr...@covaleda.co> wrote:
>
>> Entschuldigung, Ich brauche das auch
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 5:49 PM Stephen Guerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> nicht verboten, eigentlich ermutigt! post away :-)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 4:07 PM Ron Newman  wrote:
>>>
 I'm letting it be known that I'm sniffing around for a job, or just
 work, part or full.

 M.S. Comp. Sci.
 ex-IBM
 ~30 years at it, a couple of patents
 Primarily Python/Django/DBs.  Some JS.  Coming up to speed on machine
 learning.  PHP would be like a comfortable pair of old running shoes.

 If this is verboten for this list, please let me know.

 Off list I'm ron DOT newman AT gmail

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Re: [FRIAM] Spine Surgery

[Owen Densmore]

Good to know! Good luck with your surgery. And .. it must be the weather ..
Dede is having a hip replacement!

Aging: an Art. .. and as usual, not for sissies!

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 7:13 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> This morning at "physical Friam" we talked briefly about the severe neck
> and back pain I experienced, before I got the medications that relieved it,
> and the prospect of surgery that I face. Shortly after that I met with the
> surgeon and I thought some of the things he said were interesting.  For
> example he said some people with the same presentation in terms of MRI feel
> mild pain and others feel excruciating pain.  Some people benefit from the
> surgery greatly and some don't.  Some people get relief from a given
> medication that doesn't help others.  It sounds like it's a very
> frustrating, ambiguous area. I decided to go ahead with the surgery. I
> think the fact that my left arm is partially paralyzed makes this a more
> clear decision and may make coverage by insurance more certain. For people
> with pain only sometimes the pain resolves after a few months anyway.  I
> was very impressed with Dr. Watson. He's extremely straightforward, willing
> to explain technical medical things in detail. I decided to have the
> surgery done and by Monday I should know the date. Another thing I learned
> because I mentioned to him the all the ads on television for Laser Spine
> Institute and that my neurologist said to stay away from those people.  He
> said that on March 1st they closed all offices nationally and they are out
> of business.   I had no idea but it'll be a relief not to have to watch all
> those ads.
>
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>
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>
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Re: [FRIAM] Well then... Theresa may scoring...about 0

[Owen Densmore]

>From my reading of the brexit mess, It appears that there are two solutions:

1 - A UK/EU trade partnership. Most brexitists consider that a huge fail
and would likely hamstring UK's recent trade deals with Fiji and Papua New
Guinea.

2 - Unification of Ireland. This sounds impossible but several articles
I've read is that it may more likely that it may seem! Indeed, several
surveys suggest it could work. Why? For one reason: The Republic of Ireland
had the fastest-growing economy in Europe! This is a good read, even poetic
in parts:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/16/opinion/brexit-ireland.html

Compelling.

   -- Owen


On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:53 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> I haven't kept up with all the ins and outs of it, and I'm on the fence as
> to whether Brexit is right (and of course, it's none of my business since
> I'm not a Brit). That said, I think the EU has more to worry about from GB
> not being a full member than does GB. I think it would be in the EU's best
> interest to not piss off GB too much, and so they should be patient. IMHO.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:43 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Mmm. Good point.   Just seems like it'd be better to decare something
>> isn't working that's a pretty big to do-decision rather than do what seems
>> rushing into  it, since their as far as I know their's a ton of issues that
>> haven't been sorted. Maybe risk making the rest of the EU mad might be
>> slightly better in this one case, if nothing else sure "loosing polotical
>> face" sucks. No doubt. But is it really THAT important to try to leave the
>> EU as compared to staying?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Gary Schiltz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, if she did issue that mea culpa, what should she offer in its place?
>>> Hard exit? Beg to stay in the EU? The latter would have half the UK calling
>>> for heee head or similarly important body parts.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gillian Densmore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Englands parliment doesn't like any of the deals Theresa has offered
 (sounds familiar)

 Is their any reason at all she can't (or won't?) say: Mea Culpa this is
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Microcontroller event at Meow Wolf reminder

[Owen Densmore]

I gotta question: Is this a Science Fair or Introduction to Programming

When I signed up for the MW event, it sounded more like a science fair than
an educational event. Is that correct?

I ask because I thought we'd basically show kids how programming works by
guiding them through a few simple programs. You know, a "name tag"
(basically hello-world but with someone's name), and so on.

OTOH the event description seemed to be more "Here's a wowy project!"

   -- Owen


On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 1:50 PM Edward Angel  wrote:

> The microcontroller event at Meow Wolf is less than two weeks away on
> March 8. The event started as a microbit event but we’ve expanded it to
> include all kinds of devices, Some of you indicated that you’d bring a
> project to demo.
>
> The event is open to the public but we expect to have a lot of young
> students and their parents show up. The goal is to inspire more interest in
> science and technology. Projects can be very simple. Micro:bit projects are
> especially simple to generate as you can program them with block JavaScript
> via the micro:bit website (microbit.org) and you can get a micro:bit kit
> online for as little as $15.
>
> Details and signup at https://santafe.meowwolf.com/event/microcontroller/
> . Please signup if you plan to attend with or without a project to demo.
>
> Ed
> ___
>
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>
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> (ARTS Lab)
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[FRIAM] Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

[Owen Densmore]

I find it amazing that, with all the discussion of the Irish border and the
"backstop", the Northern Irish vote was overwhelmingly for Remain, not Exit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Northern_Ireland

And the backstop thus far has resulted in either:
- NI staying in the EU trade area, thus leaving the Irish border open, but
creating a NI-UK border in the Irish sea
- NI being exactly like the rest of UI, resulting in a hard Irish border.

The link above was also surprising in the huge diversity of votes in *all*
the various regions. And NI *and* Scotland voted Remain!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Results_by_United_Kingdom_constituent_countries

This is nuts!

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Fwd: [WedTech] Wedtech Lunch Talk

[Owen Densmore]

Some of us who might be interested in this are not on the wedtech list.
Should be a good talk, giving an overview of the impressive tech involved
in the next version of SimTable.

Come on by!

   -- Owen

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Subject: [WedTech] Wedtech Lunch Talk
To: Wedtech 


*Wednesday 1/16 12:30p (tomorrow)*

Title:  The "CliffNotes" on Realtime.Earth: why, how, what are the parts.

Speakers:  Simtable Staff

Abstract:
Livetexture is one of the key technologies at the core of our vision for a
Realtime Earth system. This system strives to observe and model the world
like a live/dynamic version of Google Earth or perhaps more apt, the
“Earth” software from Neal Stephenson’s novel Snow Crash.  We will talk
about the state of Livetexture and the bigger Realtime Earth system.

Where:
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BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have a lunch order. Let me know
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[FRIAM] Zero Mass Water: solar panels that pull water out of the air

[Owen Densmore]

Another fascinating article from TLDR newsletter. One wonders about the
Down Sides, but even some large US cities have apparently turned off water
in schools!

   -- Owen

These $2,000 solar panels pull clean drinking water out of the air, and
they might be a solution to the global water crisis (3 minute read)

A startup backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos has built a solar panel that
can extract water out of moisture in the air. A single $2000 panel can
extract about 10 bottles worth of clean water per day. The company believes
this is a solution to the global water crisis, which has left 2 billion
people without clean drinking water.

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Re: [FRIAM] Venice to charge day-trippers for access to city center | News | santafenewmexican.com

[Owen Densmore]

Sorry to be late, lots going on here.

Wed any time after 7:30? Or any other night this week?

   -- Owen

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:01 AM Fabio Carrera 
wrote:

> Hey Owen!
>
> it's time we see each other! How about a grappa night?
>
> I'm available any evening.
>
> A presto
>
>
> Fabio
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Venice to charge day-trippers for access to city center | News | santafenewmexican.com

[Owen Densmore]

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> Oh, nice. The Guardian has an article about Venice too
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/06/venice-losing-fight-with-tourism-and-flooding
>

Really good addition to the conversation. I love the wheely suitcase issue.
We stay in Venice for a week or two, and once an entire month, each year.

I recall several times being annoyed by that rattle and loud chatter by the
owners. Once it was like being run down by an army when a large group (a
dozen or so) rattled by and shouted at each other to be heard over the
noise! G!

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Venice and Paying for content!

[Owen Densmore]

Hey, thanks. The Guardian site popped up a plea for support so I finally
did.

Which reminded me to ask folks: How often do you contribute to web services
and how?

I do a yearly donation to Wikipedia, and subscribe to three or so
developers via Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/
.. and recently to Open Collective
 https://opencollective.com
for Rollup. And like the Guardian, spontaneous acts of gratuitous giving :)

I wonder how the web is evolving to paying folks for useful services? The
Brave browser folks have built in payments but I've not entirely switched
over yet so don't know how well that's going.

Thoughts?

   -- Owen

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> Oh, nice. The Guardian has an article about Venice too
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/06/venice-losing-fight-with-tourism-and-flooding
>
> -Jochen
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Venice to charge day-trippers for access to city center | News | santafenewmexican.com

[Owen Densmore]

And more importantly, Fabio's H3 palace in Giudecca

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xXk6EKWIBrZ-thmvvL5ACBpKbpVQssexJTcq4zKWevw/edit

and the Birraria La Corte

http://birrarialacorte.it/

near his shared office!

   -- Owen

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> There are far too many tourists in Venice, and the cruise ships are
> monsters that destroy the city. Clearly a step in the right direction.
>
> Venice itself is quite beautiful. A lot of Vivaldi concertos, Cicchetti
> bars, and Vaporetti stations (a Vaporetto is a kind of water bus). Venice
> is famous for Gondolas and "Aperol Spritz". A unique city.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondola
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spritz_Veneziano
>
> -Jochen
>
>
> ---- Original message 
> From: Owen Densmore 
> Date: 1/6/19 18:33 (GMT+01:00)
> To: Complexity Coffee Group , Fabio Carrera <
> carrera.fa...@gmail.com>, John DiRuggiero , Wedtech <
> wedt...@redfish.com>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Venice to charge day-trippers for access to city center |
> News | santafenewmexican.com
>
> The SF New Mexican has this interesting article on how Venice is trying to
> handle their overwhelming tourism.
>
>
> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/venice-to-charge-day-trippers-for-access-to-city-center/article_60b81701-d063-585e-b3e9-8c2cd4d89663.html
>
> This is just the first of several ideas to manage tourism in Venice.
> Managing large tour ships already has started, for example. Managing AirBnB
> is another in the works.
>
> From the article:
>
> Official estimate that as many as 30 million people visit Venice each
> year, with about one-fifth spending at least one night in the historic
> center of the city, which excludes islands in the lagoon and a mainland.
>
> But that means the other four-fifths are day trippers? Whoa!
>
> Fabio: any others? And is focusing on day trippers (with no overnight
> stay) helpful?
>
>-- Owen
>
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[FRIAM] Venice to charge day-trippers for access to city center | News | santafenewmexican.com

[Owen Densmore]

The SF New Mexican has this interesting article on how Venice is trying to
handle their overwhelming tourism.

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/venice-to-charge-day-trippers-for-access-to-city-center/article_60b81701-d063-585e-b3e9-8c2cd4d89663.html

This is just the first of several ideas to manage tourism in Venice.
Managing large tour ships already has started, for example. Managing AirBnB
is another in the works.

>From the article:

Official estimate that as many as 30 million people visit Venice each year,
with about one-fifth spending at least one night in the historic center of
the city, which excludes islands in the lagoon and a mainland.

But that means the other four-fifths are day trippers? Whoa!

Fabio: any others? And is focusing on day trippers (with no overnight stay)
helpful?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Where tomorrow

[Owen Densmore]

.. is friam?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Your workspace "sfComplex" is inactive, and is scheduled to be reclaimed

[Owen Densmore]

Should we just let this die? Or would it be of use?

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

[Owen Densmore]

This reminded me of a seriously ancient post on Arrow's theorem, see
forward below.

I particularly liked the examples in
http://www1.udel.edu/johnmack/frec444/444voting.html
showing the surprises that can pop up. The first showed the example where
the majority favorite was the most disliked!

That led me, when I first arrived here in 2002 after the 2000 SFI
Complexity summer school, to work my way through:
How to Solve It: Modern Heuristics
Zbigniew Michalewicz & David B. Fogel
"Stochastic Processes" certainly seemed a bit magic.

The NFL paper certainly gave me some doubts but it seemed amazing how
effective GA's, Ant Algorithms, and so on were .. at least in their own
domain. Here are two:

http://backspaces.github.io/as-app3d/models/?ants
http://backspaces.github.io/as-app3d/models/?tsp

(The TSP stops after 500 steps w/o improvement. Open console for info.)

   -- Owen

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From: Owen Densmore 
Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Subject: Arrow's Impossibility Theorem
To: Roger Critchlow , Nicholas Thompson <
nickthomp...@earthlink.net>, Jim Gattiker , Chip
Garner , Frank Wimberly 
Cc: Owen Densmore 


Here's a very old post (Dec 03) from the FRIAM list that discusses
Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.  It proves the impossibly of uniquely
resolving social preferences from individual preferences given more
than two things to choose among.

-- Owen

During the last Friam, we got talking about voting and Arrow's
Impossibility Theorem came up.  It basically discusses anomalies in
voting when there are more than two choices being voted upon.

The result depends strongly on how the votes are tallied.  So for
example, in our last election, due to having three candidates, we
entered the Arrow regime.  But "spoilers" like Ralph are not the only
weirdness.

The html references below have interesting examples, and the pdf
reference is a paper by SFI's John Geanakoplos who gave a public
lecture last year.

"Fair voting" schemes are getting some air-time now a-days.  There are
several forms, but the most popular I think is that you basically rank
your candidates in order of preference, the "top-most" being your
current vote. There are several run-offs which eliminate the poorest
performer and let you vote again, now with the highest of your ranks
still available.  This insures you always have a vote if you want
one.  This would have won the election here for Gore, for example,
presuming the Nader votes would favor Gore.

Various web pages with examples:
  http://www.udel.edu/johnmack/frec444/444voting.html
  http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/arrow.htm
  http://www.math.upenn.edu/~kazdan/210/voting/notes_on_arrow.html
Three proofs by John Geanakoplos
  http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cd/d11a/d1123-r.pdf

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On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 6:31 AM Eric Smith  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> I wonder if there is a game theory problem to be worked on here.
>
> Referring to your statement:
>
> >> Arrow's Impossibility is real but no more significant IMO than the
> real-world ambiguities and paradoxes introduced by practical realities such
> as voter suppression and fraud, system hacking and mechanical errors (e.g.
> hanging chads)…
>
> The Impossibility Theorem has the character of a case-existence proof: for
> any algorithm, there is a case of voter preferences for which that
> algorithm produces an unwanted outcome.  In the sense of only counting
> cases, it reminds me of no-free-lunch theorems: for any algorithm that is
> fast to solve one problem of combinatorial search, there is some other
> problem for which it is slow.  However, the NFL _threorem_ — that no
> algorithm is any better than any other — depends on an appropriately
> symmetric search space and a suitable associated uniform measure over
> problems on that space.  If search and optimization are embedded in a
> larger dynamic where correlation between algorithms is allowed, there can
> be global better or worse approaches.  I don’t (as in every other area)
> have details and references ready in memory, but David Wolpert wrote some
> of his later papers on NFL addressing the ways it ceases to apply under
> changed assumptions.
>
> I wonder if anyone has done an analysis of Arrow Impossibility in a
> context of a kind of ecosystem of adversaries.  To game any algorithm,
> crucially with the outcome that not only _some_ voter is handled poorly,
> but that _a sufficiently large pool_ of voters is handled poorly that the
> algorithm is not best, requires arranging the preference case that violates
> the algorithm for suitably many voters.  Is this coordination problem
> harder for some preference-orders than for others?  Is there something akin

Re: [FRIAM] An Overview of Dark Matter – Sasha Manu – Medium

[Owen Densmore]

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 5:47 PM Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> FWIW, I define it as the fundamental, unarticulated, inexplicit “picture”
> of the world that lies the way a person thinks and argues.
>
>
>
> Owen, if you had to define it, how would you?  I have always sensed that
> you computer folk have a different understanding of the word.
>

To tell the truth, I never would use it within the realm of computing
specifically or science in general. I can see various other concepts being
used in that manor, mainly "isomorphism" and similar functional definition
mapping from one domain to another.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

[Owen Densmore]

I'm catching up on old email. Trolling is lovely although a horrid but
sometimes worthy pursuit.

I like this:

troll1
/trōl/
*noun*
noun: *troll*; plural noun: *trolls*

   1. a mythical, cave-dwelling being depicted in folklore as either a
   giant or a dwarf, typically having a very ugly appearance.
   synonyms: goblin, hobgoblin, gnome, halfling, demon, monster, bugaboo,
   ogre
   "the storybook trolls who live under the bridge"

Origin
[image: image.png]
early 17th century: from Old Norse and Swedish *troll*, Danish *trold* .
The first English use is from Shetland; the term was adopted more widely
into English in the mid 19th century.
troll2
/trōl/
*noun*
noun: *troll*; plural noun: *trolls*

   1. 1.
   a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online post.
   - INFORMAL
  a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting.
  2. 2.
   a line or bait used in trolling for fish.

*verb*
verb: *troll*; 3rd person present: *trolls*; past tense: *trolled*; past
participle: *trolled*; gerund or present participle: *trolling*

   1. 1.
   INFORMAL
   make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of
   upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
   "if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my
   best to ban you"
   2. 2.
   fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
   "we *trolled for* mackerel"
   - carefully and systematically search an area for something.
  "a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities"
  3. 3.
   sing (something) in a happy and carefree way.
   "troll the ancient Yuletide carol"
   4. 4.
   BRITISH
   walk; stroll.
   "we all trolled into town"

Origin
late Middle English (in the sense ‘stroll, roll’): origin uncertain;
compare with Old French *troller* ‘wander here and there (in search of
game)’ and Middle High German *trollen* ‘stroll.’

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Re: [FRIAM] Congress votes to make open government data the default

[Owen Densmore]

I noticed this:

While the United States is not the first or even the second democracy to
pass an open data law –  France and  Germany have that distinction


Have we gathered any information as to the impact of open data laws? It's a
massive change so maybe we can detect changes.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:12 AM Ron Newman  wrote:

>
> https://e-pluribusunum.org/2018/12/21/congress-made-open-government-data-the-default-in-the-united-states/
>
> Ron Newman, M.S., M.M.E.
> Founder, IdeaTreeLive.com  Knowledge Modeling
> Piano 
> Blog 
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Owen Densmore]

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:25 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> Owen, what program is it that you use to give that nice hierarchical
> display of used space?
>

OmniDiskSweeper

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Owen Densmore]

(I gotta stop, I'm on a roll here. but...)

Here's an example of the hierarchical storage on my laptop:
[image: Snap.11.04.18-10.28.17.jpg]

The top level lets me know that "Users" is where to look. On unix systems
that is the set of user accounts, which in this case has only me but often
has temporary accounts I create for hacking in a "clean" environment. OK so
yup, I'm it. So diving in, I see over 85GB (Music, Movies, Pictures) are
better kept in the cloud and I should "empty the trash) getting me over
95GB. Wow!

I only have around 7GB on Dropbox .. i.e. code and docs I create. Here is
where Github does have some impact, I can kill off all those repositories
and simply depend on Github for archival storage.

This does ping my brain on one issue: document storage other than mine:
ebooks, talks, tutorials etc. Last time I did this I found 10GB or so of
these, to my surprise, so I shuffled them off to archival storage, keeping
only active ones available.

   -- Owen



On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:24 AM Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Oh, forgot: one of the "surprises" had to do with email. Even tho I use
> gmail, which keeps all the email in the cloud, the mail *clients* (apps
> that interface with the email on the server) often store a huge amount of
> my email in a local "cache". We're talking 10s of GBs.
>
> Try running one of these storage hierarchy apps and let us know what you
> find.
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:19 AM Owen Densmore  wrote:
>
>> I'd recommend using a program that tells you where all the storage goes
>> to.
>>
>> My OS has a simple facility that tells me I have 75GB left out of 250GB
>> SSD drive on my laptop. That's OK but prompts me to run a finer grain
>> program that tells me what my folder hierarchies contain. It good in that
>> it tells me the total storage of each top-most folder, then dives into each
>> of them, recursively telling how much each of the second, third, etc level
>> folder contains.
>>
>> Doing this is constantly surprising! For example, I found that my photos
>> and music were well over 10GB. And that my programming libraries
>> (./node-modules) were absolutely out of control. And many apps and system
>> tools have huge "caches" of files.
>>
>> My solution is to use DropBox, a cloud storage and sync (sync == keep the
>> files synchronized over my various computers, tablets and phone). Syncing
>> can actually cause a huge *increase* in storage, but DB has a simple
>> setting that tells it to just use the cloud version, thus turning into a
>> fairly easily managed system.
>>
>> DB also lets me share files with others easily, so for example I can
>> share a model/simulation I'm working on with others. Github also solves
>> this sort of storage but I think isn't germane here. Google Docs might,
>> however.
>>
>> So I developed a simple approach to DB: any keystroke I make ends up
>> there: i.e. all docs I create is on DB. Photos, no .. I take the pictures
>> but don't edit them .. i.e. add/subtract bits, thus they do not fall under
>> the DB range, just backup.
>>
>> DB isn't cheap .. it starts out free for up to 6 GB but its first paid
>> level is $100/year for 1TB. And it hasn't got all the features I need. But
>> so far is the best for me.
>>
>> I find that my cog load for my own docs is around 20GB so am happy with
>> cloud storage for all the rest. And actually, a lot of my cloud storage is
>> a form of backup.
>>
>> Do you have a similar situation? I realize storage is "domain specific".
>>
>>-- Owen
>>
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Owen Densmore]

Oh, forgot: one of the "surprises" had to do with email. Even tho I use
gmail, which keeps all the email in the cloud, the mail *clients* (apps
that interface with the email on the server) often store a huge amount of
my email in a local "cache". We're talking 10s of GBs.

Try running one of these storage hierarchy apps and let us know what you
find.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:19 AM Owen Densmore  wrote:

> I'd recommend using a program that tells you where all the storage goes to.
>
> My OS has a simple facility that tells me I have 75GB left out of 250GB
> SSD drive on my laptop. That's OK but prompts me to run a finer grain
> program that tells me what my folder hierarchies contain. It good in that
> it tells me the total storage of each top-most folder, then dives into each
> of them, recursively telling how much each of the second, third, etc level
> folder contains.
>
> Doing this is constantly surprising! For example, I found that my photos
> and music were well over 10GB. And that my programming libraries
> (./node-modules) were absolutely out of control. And many apps and system
> tools have huge "caches" of files.
>
> My solution is to use DropBox, a cloud storage and sync (sync == keep the
> files synchronized over my various computers, tablets and phone). Syncing
> can actually cause a huge *increase* in storage, but DB has a simple
> setting that tells it to just use the cloud version, thus turning into a
> fairly easily managed system.
>
> DB also lets me share files with others easily, so for example I can share
> a model/simulation I'm working on with others. Github also solves this sort
> of storage but I think isn't germane here. Google Docs might, however.
>
> So I developed a simple approach to DB: any keystroke I make ends up
> there: i.e. all docs I create is on DB. Photos, no .. I take the pictures
> but don't edit them .. i.e. add/subtract bits, thus they do not fall under
> the DB range, just backup.
>
> DB isn't cheap .. it starts out free for up to 6 GB but its first paid
> level is $100/year for 1TB. And it hasn't got all the features I need. But
> so far is the best for me.
>
> I find that my cog load for my own docs is around 20GB so am happy with
> cloud storage for all the rest. And actually, a lot of my cloud storage is
> a form of backup.
>
> Do you have a similar situation? I realize storage is "domain specific".
>
>-- Owen
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Owen Densmore]

I'd recommend using a program that tells you where all the storage goes to.

My OS has a simple facility that tells me I have 75GB left out of 250GB SSD
drive on my laptop. That's OK but prompts me to run a finer grain program
that tells me what my folder hierarchies contain. It good in that it tells
me the total storage of each top-most folder, then dives into each of them,
recursively telling how much each of the second, third, etc level folder
contains.

Doing this is constantly surprising! For example, I found that my photos
and music were well over 10GB. And that my programming libraries
(./node-modules) were absolutely out of control. And many apps and system
tools have huge "caches" of files.

My solution is to use DropBox, a cloud storage and sync (sync == keep the
files synchronized over my various computers, tablets and phone). Syncing
can actually cause a huge *increase* in storage, but DB has a simple
setting that tells it to just use the cloud version, thus turning into a
fairly easily managed system.

DB also lets me share files with others easily, so for example I can share
a model/simulation I'm working on with others. Github also solves this sort
of storage but I think isn't germane here. Google Docs might, however.

So I developed a simple approach to DB: any keystroke I make ends up there:
i.e. all docs I create is on DB. Photos, no .. I take the pictures but
don't edit them .. i.e. add/subtract bits, thus they do not fall under the
DB range, just backup.

DB isn't cheap .. it starts out free for up to 6 GB but its first paid
level is $100/year for 1TB. And it hasn't got all the features I need. But
so far is the best for me.

I find that my cog load for my own docs is around 20GB so am happy with
cloud storage for all the rest. And actually, a lot of my cloud storage is
a form of backup.

Do you have a similar situation? I realize storage is "domain specific".

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

[Owen Densmore]

Frank and Nick in the Santa Fe newspaper:
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/vote-the-future-of-our-nation-depends-on-it/article_75256ffa-c10f-565b-ac01-debb4dfe3d90.html

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Fwd: #GoogleWalkout ✊Apple's repairs hologram lecturers  blockchain utopia 

[Owen Densmore]

TLDR is a new daily tech newsletter that may be of interest to the rest of
us. It has a different slant on things, sorta refreshing.

   -- Owen

-- Forwarded message -
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Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:18 AM
Subject: #GoogleWalkout ✊Apple's repairs hologram lecturers  
blockchain utopia 
To: 


Over 1,500 Google employees world wide walked out of the office today to
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Stories about tech giants, startups, and venture capital

Google employees worldwide are walking out today to protest handling of
sexual misconduct (2 minute read)


Over 1,500 Google employees world wide walked out of the office today to
protest the company's handling of sexual harassment cases. The employees
have five demands: an end to forced arbitration for harassment and
discrimination cases, an end to pay and opportunity inequity, a public
sexual harassment transparency report, an anonymous process for reporting
sexual harassment, and elevating the Chief Diversity Officer to report
directly to the CEO and appointing an employee representative to the board.
They are using the hashtag #GoogleWalkout to spread the message on Twitter.

Apple launches vintage repair pilot program to fix aging iPhones, MacBooks
and more (1 minute read)


Apple is launching a new "Repair Vintage Apple Products Pilot" that will
repair older Apple products. Currently the program will let you get repairs
on the iPhone 5, 2012 Macbook Air, and 2011 iMac. They'll eventually add
support for the iPhone 4s, 2012 Macbook Pro, and 2012 Mac Pro. All repairs
are contingent on part availability.


Science & Cutting Edge Technology
Stories about scientific breakthroughs and futuristic technologies like AI,
blockchain, and space travel

A Cryptocurrency Millionaire Wants to Build a Utopia in Nevada (5 minute
read)


Jeffrey Berns is a lawyer turned crypto-millionaire who made hundreds of
millions from investing in Ethereum. Now he wants to use that money to
create a city run by the blockchain in the middle of the Nevada desert,
complete with a high tech park, college, and e-gaming arena. He spent $170
million buying a huge tract of land larger than Reno, and has spent over
$300 million in total on the project for offices, planning, and a staff of
70. He's going to give away all of the decision making power to a
blockchain run by residents, and 90% of any dividends will go to residents,
employees, and future investors. Every resident and employee will have what
amounts to an Ethereum address, which they will use to vote on local
measures and store their personal data. Construction will begin in 2019.
Berns believes that his city will "either be the biggest thing ever, or the
most spectacular crash and burn in the history of mankind. I don't know
which one. I believe it's the former, but either way it’s going to be one
hell of a ride."

'Hologram' lecturers to teach students at Imperial College London (1 minute
read)


Imperial College in London will now be using hologram technology similar to
that used to animate images of Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and other
celebrities in order to beam in speakers from around the world. The
lecturers will have displays in front of them so they can point, speak, and
interact with people. The hologram is generated by projecting light onto a
glass screen and using a backdrop that gives the illusion of depth. It
costs only in the low thousands of dollars per session, so it's affordable
for universities to do regularly.

$5bn 

[FRIAM] Urgent Care in Santa Fe

[Owen Densmore]

What's the best Urgent Care in Santa Fe? Thanks.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] MS acquiring Github.

[Owen Densmore]

And here's why:
https://medium.com/@Michael_Spencer/why-microsoft-is-acquiring-github-1fc859cb29a

Very telling article and MS is out to have 57 million smart people to
choose from. And they own LinkedIn.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Yup, really:
>
> I am very excited to announce that Microsoft is acquiring GitHub and
> expect the agreement to close by the end of the year. While it will still
> take a few months to finalize, we wanted to share the news as soon as we
> were able.
>
> https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/
>
>
> I dunno.
>
>-- Owen
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Archiving Friam conversations as editable text.

[Owen Densmore]

Ah..could just be http://redfish.com/ is dead. It hangs.

(I tried beaming into the admin part of our mail and it hung.)

Stephen?

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Damn! And the GMane site is also dead: http://news.gmane.org/
> gmane.org.region.new-mexico.santa-fe.friam/
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Owen Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm.. You're right: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/
>>
>> Not Found
>> The requested URL /pipermail/friam_redfish.com/index.html was not found
>> on this server.
>>
>> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use
>> an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Nick Thompson <
>> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friammers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I am now safely installed in the MIB, and now I am trying to fulfill
>>> my promise to try to turn your excellent work concerning “What Pragmatism
>>> Is” into an editable text.  I realize this is a project that only a mother
>>> could love, but humor me a little bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, the first method I tried, via Outlook, failed.  Outlook apparently
>>> keeps its email messages disaggregated in something like a vast CSV file.
>>> When you ask for a single message, it re-aggregates the fields of the
>>> message and presents it to you.  If you try to export a bunch of messages,
>>> it exports them as a CSV file or as a bunch of icons.  There is no way that
>>> I can see to open all the messages  of a thread into a single Word File for
>>> editing.  There is no way to write macros for Outlook.  So, that’s the end
>>> of the Outlook line, for me, I think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My next thought was to work with the FRIAM archive.  I thought perhaps I
>>> could import an entire thread from the  archive, and since, as I remember,
>>> the archive is organized chronologically, I might have my rough editable
>>> file that way.  I could then write a macro to delete unnecessary repetitive
>>> stuff, and would be done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *However, I could not, following instructions on the FRIAM page, get
>>> into the FRIAM archive** at all*.  If anybody has used it recently,
>>> could you get in touch?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>>
>>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>>
>>> Clark University
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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>>
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Archiving Friam conversations as editable text.

[Owen Densmore]

Damn! And the GMane site is also dead:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.region.new-mexico.santa-fe.friam/

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:

> Hmm.. You're right: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/
>
> Not Found
> The requested URL /pipermail/friam_redfish.com/index.html was not found
> on this server.
>
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Nick Thompson  > wrote:
>
>> Dear Friammers,
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I am now safely installed in the MIB, and now I am trying to fulfill
>> my promise to try to turn your excellent work concerning “What Pragmatism
>> Is” into an editable text.  I realize this is a project that only a mother
>> could love, but humor me a little bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, the first method I tried, via Outlook, failed.  Outlook apparently
>> keeps its email messages disaggregated in something like a vast CSV file.
>> When you ask for a single message, it re-aggregates the fields of the
>> message and presents it to you.  If you try to export a bunch of messages,
>> it exports them as a CSV file or as a bunch of icons.  There is no way that
>> I can see to open all the messages  of a thread into a single Word File for
>> editing.  There is no way to write macros for Outlook.  So, that’s the end
>> of the Outlook line, for me, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> My next thought was to work with the FRIAM archive.  I thought perhaps I
>> could import an entire thread from the  archive, and since, as I remember,
>> the archive is organized chronologically, I might have my rough editable
>> file that way.  I could then write a macro to delete unnecessary repetitive
>> stuff, and would be done.
>>
>>
>>
>> *However, I could not, following instructions on the FRIAM page, get into
>> the FRIAM archive** at all*.  If anybody has used it recently, could you
>> get in touch?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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>>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Archiving Friam conversations as editable text.

[Owen Densmore]

Hmm.. You're right: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/

Not Found
The requested URL /pipermail/friam_redfish.com/index.html was not found on
this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Dear Friammers,
>
>
>
> So, I am now safely installed in the MIB, and now I am trying to fulfill
> my promise to try to turn your excellent work concerning “What Pragmatism
> Is” into an editable text.  I realize this is a project that only a mother
> could love, but humor me a little bit.
>
>
>
> So, the first method I tried, via Outlook, failed.  Outlook apparently
> keeps its email messages disaggregated in something like a vast CSV file.
> When you ask for a single message, it re-aggregates the fields of the
> message and presents it to you.  If you try to export a bunch of messages,
> it exports them as a CSV file or as a bunch of icons.  There is no way that
> I can see to open all the messages  of a thread into a single Word File for
> editing.  There is no way to write macros for Outlook.  So, that’s the end
> of the Outlook line, for me, I think.
>
>
>
> My next thought was to work with the FRIAM archive.  I thought perhaps I
> could import an entire thread from the  archive, and since, as I remember,
> the archive is organized chronologically, I might have my rough editable
> file that way.  I could then write a macro to delete unnecessary repetitive
> stuff, and would be done.
>
>
>
> *However, I could not, following instructions on the FRIAM page, get into
> the FRIAM archive** at all*.  If anybody has used it recently, could you
> get in touch?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> 
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[FRIAM] MS acquiring Github.

[Owen Densmore]

Yup, really:

I am very excited to announce that Microsoft is acquiring GitHub and expect
the agreement to close by the end of the year. While it will still take a
few months to finalize, we wanted to share the news as soon as we were able.

https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/


I dunno.

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon

[Owen Densmore]

​This will make Dave West happy:
​
https://hackernoon.com/back-to-the-future-with-smalltalk-57c68fab583a

​   -- Owen​

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Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?

[Owen Densmore]

Wait! Your sports car (Porsche) would have a high compression ratio, right??

My bias is away from diesel at the moment, simply because it costs more and
some of the benefits are no longer with us. No longer cheaper etc. But they
do have more pick-up, and apparently better maintenance.

Keep the cards and letters coming tho, very useful!

   -- Owen

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> Thank you Frank and Steve, both,
>
>
> > On Mar 31, 2018, at 3:33 AM, Frank Wimberly  wrote:
> >
> > My petrol car has a 12.2 to 1 compression ratio and sparkplugs.
>
> Boy, I was way off.  Thank you.
>
> Eric
>
>
> >
> > 
> > Frank Wimberly
> >
> > www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
> >
> > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
> >
> > Phone (505) 670-9918
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:53 AM Steven A Smith  wrote:
> > I just read up a little on Selective Catalytic Reduction which seems to
> > characterize Bruce's Urea-injection system.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_catalytic_reduction
> >
> > Which is similar but different to Air Injection:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection
> >
> > both in various combinations with two-way and three-way catalytic
> > converters:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter
> >
> >
> > I remember in the late 70s, early 80s when we imagined that an ICE
> > engine that could efficiently convert atmospheric oxygen and the
> > hydrocarbons of fossil fuels into pure CO2 and H20 would solve any and
> > all "pollution" problems.   Folks like Bill McKibbin were already trying
> > to alert us to Greenhouse Gas problems, but I know *I* wasn't listening
> > past my TechnoPhilic hearing aids.
> >
> > As for Ed's apocryphal "peeing in the gas tank", urine being primarily
> > H20...  it seems highly unlikely that the <2% additive of Urea or Uric
> > Acid would be any benefit in emissions, though there have been systems
> > that injected water into the air-fuel charge which I believe (under very
> > limited conditions) increased power/efficiency by small margins, but I
> > think that was a result of cooling the incoming mixture effectively
> > increasing the difference between input/output temps resulting in
> > similar effects of increasing compression ration?
> >
> >
> > - Steve
> >
> > > I seem to remember this as being associated with higher nitrogen oxide
> > emissions than richer-burning.  Has that long since been fixed?
> > > I believe that NO emissions are associated with the lean burn of
> > > Petrol... I'm not sure why Diesel is less apt to that... perhaps the
> > > longer chain hydrocarbons, the higher compressions (a different
> > > pointin the pressure/volume/temp space?) or the more "natural" or
> > > complete combustion conditions without a spark?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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[FRIAM] Diesel OK?

[Owen Densmore]

We're getting a new BMW station wagon and they recommend getting diesel
over your basic gasoline. Better milage and more reliable engine.

I'm wondering what that's like here in the USA. In Italy it was the usual
fuel but I'm wondering just how widespread diesel is here? And if there are
other annoyances like only one diesel pump which can have a crowd?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Fire Stick

[Owen Densmore]

So we just got an ad about an Amazon Fire TV Stick sale ($30) and decided
to get one to see how they work.

But why? My TiVo gives me access to all those provider apps (Netflix, Prime
Video, Hulu, HBO, SHOWTIME, NBC ...).

Well, basically because the providers basically suck.

The case in point for me is Netflix. I once looked at basically 6 of their
shows regularly. But then Netflix started to drop them. Yes, yes I'm sure
there are good reasons, mainly licensing. But now I only use it for one
show that they still have because they produce it. Longmire.

Because I have a TiVo, I can generally record things easily, but I often
get interested in shows after they've been around for a while. I just fit
into a Category that may be too small.

So we started just subscribing to series on Amazon. Several are free due to
being on "Prime Video".  Amazon does not suck. It really wants to sell me
stuff and does not cancel shows/movies.

All this is to say that I think Amazon, once again, is like the Turtle:
slow but steady and will win the race.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] with apologies to the diaspora

[Owen Densmore]

I use them for my 20 year old Taurus.

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> I haven't been their for a while personally. I think dad(owen) goes their
> for some stuff. Seems to like  the service, and meeting locals, from what I
> understand the cost isn't to bad
>
> However you are right it needs TLC
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Nick Thompson <
> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear locals,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anybody still using the Old Trail Garage and are they reasonably OK?
>> The place looks awfully down and out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: How Computers Work, featuring Bill Gates, and more!

[Owen Densmore]

Mike Bostock makes me feel tiny.

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> For your odd moments, I recommend browsing the d3 repo:
> https://github.com/d3/d3
>
> It's comprised of 30(!) sub-repos. And all functional, check out the
> examples on the home page: https://d3js.org/. And not only fun, but
> really useful.
>
> I'm not functionally aware to know just how functional, but I'd say
> functional for large values of functional.
>
>-- Owen
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dude!  If this is your vice, then you're the luckiest person in the
>> world! 8^)
>>
>> On 02/16/2018 12:46 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
>> > Damn you, Glen. Just what I needed, a few tens of thousands of pages
>> > more of technical books to read. Like offering an alcoholic a drink. I
>> > hope you're happy.
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:17 PM, glen ep ropella <g...@tempusdictum.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> And along these same lines:
>> >>
>> >> Humble Book Bundle for Functional Programming:
>> >> https://www.humblebundle.com/books/functional-programming-books
>> >>
>> >> Supporting Code for America (https://www.codeforamerica.org/).
>> >>
>> >> On 01/30/2018 09:43 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>> >>> I wonder if we could get our governors (whichever state we live in)
>> to join the 16 who have already signed up?
>> >>>
>> >>> It seems to me that:
>> >>> - Broadband is a utility, like water and power.
>> >>> - CS should be taught in public schools.
>> >>> - Both together would be a Good Thing
>>
>>
>> --
>> ☣ uǝlƃ
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: How Computers Work, featuring Bill Gates, and more!

[Owen Densmore]

For your odd moments, I recommend browsing the d3 repo:
https://github.com/d3/d3

It's comprised of 30(!) sub-repos. And all functional, check out the
examples on the home page: https://d3js.org/. And not only fun, but really
useful.

I'm not functionally aware to know just how functional, but I'd say
functional for large values of functional.

   -- Owen

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dude!  If this is your vice, then you're the luckiest person in the world!
> 8^)
>
> On 02/16/2018 12:46 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> > Damn you, Glen. Just what I needed, a few tens of thousands of pages
> > more of technical books to read. Like offering an alcoholic a drink. I
> > hope you're happy.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:17 PM, glen ep ropella <g...@tempusdictum.com>
> wrote:
> >> And along these same lines:
> >>
> >> Humble Book Bundle for Functional Programming:
> >> https://www.humblebundle.com/books/functional-programming-books
> >>
> >> Supporting Code for America (https://www.codeforamerica.org/).
> >>
> >> On 01/30/2018 09:43 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> >>> I wonder if we could get our governors (whichever state we live in) to
> join the 16 who have already signed up?
> >>>
> >>> It seems to me that:
> >>> - Broadband is a utility, like water and power.
> >>> - CS should be taught in public schools.
> >>> - Both together would be a Good Thing
>
>
> --
> ☣ uǝlƃ
>
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[FRIAM] Fwd: How Computers Work, featuring Bill Gates, and more!

[Owen Densmore]

​I wonder if we could get our governors (whichever state we live in) to
join the 16 who have already signed up?​

It seems to me that:
- Broadband is a utility, like water and power.
- CS should be taught in public schools.
- Both together would be a Good Thing

   -- Owen

-- Forwarded message --
From: Hadi Partovi 
Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:57 AM
Subject: How Computers Work, featuring Bill Gates, and more!
To: o...@backspaces.net





We’re so so so excited to share six short videos that teach How Computers
Work
!
Over a year in the making, these educational videos star Bill Gates along
tech leaders such as Apple designer May Li Khoe, xBox architect Nat Brown,
and Adafruit founder Limor Fried. Please watch these videos with a
classroom, with your children, or with a tub of ice cream. :-)

Because CS is for everybody, Khan Academy
 and Alaska
Airlines will expand the audience for these videos. Khan Academy will
include the videos in their CS offering, and Alaska Airlines will offer
them for free on flights starting in April. (Both will also feature the How
the Internet Works

videos previously released by Code.org.)

*State governors unite for computer science*


The local momentum for K-12 computer science continues to spread throughout
the U.S. Eight more governors

joined the Governors for CS
 partnership,
which now boasts 16 states committed to funding and expanding computer
science. Throughout January, governors announced new plans for CS:

   -

   Governors from AZ
   
,
   IA, IN
   
,
   MD, NY
   
,
   and SC
   

proposed
   a combined $17 million to expand CS in every school
   -

   Legislation in support of computer science has been introduced in AZ,
   FL, HI, IN, MD, MO, MS, NC, NH, RI, and WA
   -

   The Utah State Board of Education adopted a proposal to create a
   strategic plan for K-12 CS in the state, including standards

*2017 in review, and Code.org Annual report
*
At Code.org we start each year with a look at the global landscape of K-12
computer science – whether the direct work of our team and partners, or the
work of global efforts that share our vision.

It’s been just over four years since Code.org hired our first employee, and
the first launch of the Hour of Code. It’s been incredible to see global
education embrace CS, faster than ever before.

In just four years, 25 countries, 40 U.S. states, and almost 200 U.S.
cities and school districts have announced plans to expand access and
diversity in CS; over 72,000 U.S. teachers have attended Code.org
workshops; a whopping 750,000 teachers have begun using Code.org to teach
CS to over 25M students worldwide; diversity in CS classrooms has improved
for four years in a row; and the Hour of Code has surpassed 500 million
served – reaching one out of every 10 students on the planet.

Please read and share our 2017 Annual Report
.

*This is your impact*
Whether you’ve signed our petition
, supported us with
a donation ,
followed us on Facebook
 or on Twitter
, volunteered
 in a school,
tried an Hour of Code
, or taught our
courses  in a
classroom, you’ve been part of growing the biggest teacher-powered movement
in world education. Our work wouldn’t be possible without your support. Our
story is your story. Please share it.

--

*“What you have done is by far the single most disruptive piece of
education at scale within the existing education structure in my lifetime.”
Gregg Fleisher, President, National Math & Science Initiative*
--


To all our supporters and partners, to the other organizations helping in
the cause, and especially to the 

[FRIAM] St Johns?

[Owen Densmore]

.. tomorrow?

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[FRIAM] Fwd: Ten years in, nobody has come up with a use for blockchain

[Owen Densmore]

Nice contrarian view on bitcoin and blockchains in general:
​  ​
https://hackernoon.com/ten-years-in-nobody-has-come-up-with-a-use-case-for-blockchain-ee98c180100

​I suspect blockchains will go the way torrent file systems went: they'll
be great for IT infrastructure, so folks like Amazon Web Services will use
them:

   - Torrents: redundant, secure storage
   - Blockchains: redundant, secure transactions​

​   -- Owen​

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[FRIAM] Grad Student Tax

[Owen Densmore]

I was surprised to find out that the "tax cuts" actually impose increased
taxes in important sectors. Grad students? Yup.

Melanie Mitchell retweeted this:
  https://twitter.com/ChrisMarsicano/status/931953249091022848

It's so weird. Traveling here in europe where schools are affordable, &
health care too .. why are we trying to destroy such valuable resources?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] The Big Picture: What’s At Stake in Trump’s America | Public Books

[Owen Densmore]

A public 1-day conference on Trump! First the NFL, now Accademia!
​  ​
http://www.publicbooks.org/events/big-picture-whats-stake-trumps-america/

​   -- Owen​

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[FRIAM] Bringing the web up to speed with WebAssembly | the morning paper

[Owen Densmore]

Wow, pretty surprising just how formal wasm is, and the research/design
behind it.
​​
https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/09/18/bringing-the-web-up-to-speed-with-webassembly/

​And even more amazing is that it evolved so quickly. It and webgl are
amazing for their boosting the browser's capabilities.

Similarly th​e speed in which phone browsers had access to hardware that
eventually became available to the browser. And ditto "progressive"
html/css features making the same page work well on desktops, laptops,
tablets, phones, watches.

Whadda world!

Oh: just out of curiosity: has anyone tried wasm yet?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

[Owen Densmore]

Medium, my current outlet of choice, has an interesting "story" (Medium
deals in Stories, not Tech nor Politics nor ...). It echos a lot of what
we've been dealing with.
​​
https://medium.com/@russroberts/the-world-turned-upside-down-and-what-to-do-
about-it-2dc27d1cf5f5

​Somewhat dark, but awfully close to home.

   -- Owen ​

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Re: [FRIAM] Quantum Theory Rebuilt From Simple Physical Principles | Quanta Magazine

[Owen Densmore]

Stephen will like this:

Some researchers suspect that ultimately the axioms of a quantum
reconstruction will be about information: what can and can’t be done with
it. One such derivation of quantum theory based on axioms about information
was proposed in 2010 by Chiribella, then working at the Perimeter
Institute, and his collaborators Giacomo Mauro D’Ariano and Paolo Perinotti
of the University of Pavia in Italy. “Loosely speaking,” explained Jacques
Pienaar, a theoretical physicist at the University of Vienna, “their
principles state that information should be localized in space and time,
that systems should be able to encode information about each other, and
that every process should in principle be reversible, so that information
is conserved.” (In irreversible processes, by contrast, information is
typically lost — just as it is when you erase a file on your hard drive.)


On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> This is kinda interesting:
> ​  ​
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-theory-rebuilt-
> from-simple-physical-principles-20170830/
>
> ​Basically look at it like this:
> - Relativity: Is founded on a few simple physical principles ​like the
> limit on the speed of light.
> - Quantum Theory: Is founded on equations that match observation.
>
> Both make sense. But QT hasn't that satisfying basis that relativity has.
>
> Apparently a bunch of folks are trying to fix that.
>
>-- Owen
>
>

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[FRIAM] Quantum Theory Rebuilt From Simple Physical Principles | Quanta Magazine

[Owen Densmore]

This is kinda interesting:
​  ​
https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-theory-rebuilt-from-simple-physical-principles-20170830/

​Basically look at it like this:
- Relativity: Is founded on a few simple physical principles ​like the
limit on the speed of light.
- Quantum Theory: Is founded on equations that match observation.

Both make sense. But QT hasn't that satisfying basis that relativity has.

Apparently a bunch of folks are trying to fix that.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Classes, Complexity, and Functional Programming – Kent C. Dodds – Medium

[Owen Densmore]

Great info, thanks.

A few constraints:
- I've finally gotten back to Write & Run JavaScript, no transpiling.
- My workflow also is simplified: only npm scripts possibly using a node
script.
- I run a local hot-loading node http server so Write & Run is automatic.
All managed by a npm script.

Why? The JS world went nuts for several years with transpiling, babel (for
es6/future JS features), task managers, linters etc. It was arguably
necessary for the times. I used CoffeeScript for a while mainly for safety
and pythonic syntax. But my peers said "Oh, great, *another* thing to
learn"! And they didn't. :)

Things are now hugely better, with editors that are very IDE-ish and eslint
built in, and the language is finally getting functional features like map,
reduce, and so on. The for loop? It's dead Jim. Yay.

So there is a return to sanity and a healing from JS "fatigue". Simple JS,
no task managers, and simple commands for minifying, linting, conversion to
node modules, and so on. Write & Run w/ chores as scripts.

Within that world, currently, is a very strong movement toward FP. Hence
the article starting this conversation. And my hope for incrementally
converting to FP.

   -- Owen

PS: My work is not very webby. Mainly a NetLogo lookalike for JS. No
install, just start up a page. I render using webgl which oddly enough has
a fairly nice language for the GPU, and Three.js eases much of the
verbosity of the CPU side.

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Re: [FRIAM] Classes, Complexity, and Functional Programming – Kent C. Dodds – Medium

[Owen Densmore]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
wrote:

> "I know, I know, functional programming is as fun as hitting your head
>> with a brick."
>
> It is fun!
>
​That's great to hear, too much is NOT fun in programming!​

> If I have a project that isn't FP, I make it into an FP project because it
> is the right thing to do.
>

​OK, so in the JavaScript world, how does one inch forward toward
functional? I don't want to be so functional as some of the extremes.
Curring all the way to one arg functions?

The article says performance may be an issue.

The chief appeal for me is the Self-like objects only, no classes. But the
lack of centrality may just as hard to navigate as the over-tight, stateful
class approach.

   -- Owen​


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
wrote:

> "I know, I know, functional programming is as fun as hitting your head
> with a brick."
>
>
> It is fun!
>
>
> "It is a bit scary letting go of "central control" Classes provide, very
> human. I mean, who's *boss*?"
>
>
> The caller is the boss.  With FP you know that arguments are all
> read-only.
>
> This gives you unambiguous dataflow and you know when parallelism can be
> done because the arguments just tell you.
>
>
> let c = f(a)
>
>
> ..can run at once with..
>
>
> let d = g(a)
>
>
> ..but not with..
>
>
> let e = h(a,c)
>
>
> Also "=" here isn't assignment, it is equality.
>
>
> If I have a project that isn't FP, I make it into an FP project because it
> is the right thing to do.
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
> --
> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Owen Densmore <
> o...@backspaces.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 10:19:05 AM
> *To:* Wedtech; Complexity Coffee Group
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Classes, Complexity, and Functional Programming – Kent
> C. Dodds – Medium
>
> ​I know, I know, functional programming is as fun as hitting your head
> with a brick.
>
> But this article does a nice job of showing how functional programming is
> very Self-like:
>   ​​
> https://me
> ​​
> dium.com/@kentcdodds/classes-complexity-and-functional-
> programming-a8dd86903747
>
> ​It's objects and functions all the way down, and for me the best is no
> `this`.
>
> It is a bit scary letting go of "central control" Classes provide, very
> human. I mean, who's *boss*?
>
> Do any of us *use* functional programming?
>
>-- Owen​
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] What are the scenarios? Game theory?

[Owen Densmore]

Merle: thanks!

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Merle Lefkoff 
wrote:

> Well, yes, Owen.  I was contacted recently by a group of South and North
> Korean women who have been meeting secretly in the DMZ.  The North Koreans
> sent their delegation.  It's a really interesting group.  And if you read
> Truthout today, a good strategy is emerging that involves re-starting the
> anti-nuke movement.  Visit our web site:  e-mergenow.org.
>
>

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[FRIAM] Classes, Complexity, and Functional Programming – Kent C. Dodds – Medium

[Owen Densmore]

​I know, I know, functional programming is as fun as hitting your head with
a brick.

But this article does a nice job of showing how functional programming is
very Self-like:
  ​​
https://me
​​
dium.com/@kentcdodds/classes-complexity-and-functional-programming-a8dd86903747

​It's objects and functions all the way down, and for me the best is no
`this`.

It is a bit scary letting go of "central control" Classes provide, very
human. I mean, who's *boss*?

Do any of us *use* functional programming?

   -- Owen​

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Re: [FRIAM] The apocalypse

[Owen Densmore]

OK, what's tit for tat with the North Korea Guam threat:

President Trump seemed to draw a red line Tuesday when he warned North
Korea that continued threats against the United States would be met with
“fire and fury like the world has never seen.” The next day, North Korea
crossed it.

Or at least it announced, in unusually specific terms, how it could. The
country’s state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on Wednesday night
issued a statement that said the North is “seriously examining the plan for
an enveloping strike at Guam through simultaneous fire of four Hwasong-12
intermediate-range strategic ballistic rockets in order to interdict the
enemy forces on major military bases on Guam and to signal a crucial
warning to the U.S.” The statement, citing the North’s Strategic Rocket
Forces head General Kim Rak Gyom, added that the plan would be finished by
mid-August before going to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un for approval.

“Sound dialogue is not possible with such a guy bereft of reason and only
absolute force can work on him,” the general said, in apparent reference to
Trump, whose ultimatum he described as a “load of nonsense.”


I suppose firing 4 rockets to land in NK waters? Or sending 4 drones to
hover over NK? Shooting down the NK rockets would be risky, showing our
hand as to effective antimissile capabilities.

   -- Owen

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/08/north-korea-answers-trumps-vague-threats-with-specific-ones/536433/


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> I (razzingly) suggest bad summer movies or  that somehow all the Doom will
> some freeze in place at the same time.
> Perhaps we shall some how find a bunch of tribbles, zombies, a large rock
> in the sky, and dinso's all at the same time and that because of the Doom
> Metter the'll just stay their, thus no more doom can happen.
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Jochen Fromm  wrote:
>
>> I doubt that North Korea has the ability to hit a tiny island like Guam
>> in the Pacific, but it can without doubt destroy the 9 million capital
>> Seoul near the border with weapons bought from Russia or China.
>>
>> The danger of a nuclear apocalypse is greatest when the world has
>> forgotten how dangerous these weapons of mass destruction are. Even trying
>> to model mutually assured destruction is useless with people like Kim
>> Jong-Un and Trump. How can he brag on Twitter about nuclear weapons? WTF ?
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
>>
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[FRIAM] What are the scenarios? Game theory?

[Owen Densmore]

>From BBC a reasonable summary:
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879485

My question is simple: what *are* the alternatives? Is there an interesting
game theoretic analysis?

The toughest part is that South Korea is being held hostage. NK can
devastate SK even if hit with a pre-emptive strike.

As rash as Trump's bluster has been, the real question remains: what is the
reasonable response to NK's threat.
- Preemptive Strike? Likely a loser unless it is so massive as to
obliterate every human in NK. SK would be seriously damaged in the
aftermath.
- Wait 'til NK strikes? Again, hardly reasonable.
- Anti-missile defense? Possibly, but you just gotta miss one for
apocalypse. And what do you do if you *do* succeed? SK is still hostage.
- Tit for Tat? Well, only in the bluster game. Our threats will match yours
& vice versa.

Has anyone heard of an interesting strategy?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Trump Support

[Owen Densmore]

The Economist sez:

We asked YouGov, a pollster, to survey 1,500 Americans about Donald Trump
and several national media outlets. When Republicans were asked whether
they trusted Mr Trump more than the New York Times, Washington Post or CNN,
70% sided with the president each time. Republicans now loathe these
outlets so much that nearly half would be glad to see unconstitutional
means used to silence them, writes our data team


https://goo.gl/Xmfqcr


I've wanted to know if Trump voters hang onto him after all the harm he's
done to them. Apparently they are like this tweet:
[image: Inline image 1]

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] Santa Fe Fireworks

[Owen Densmore]

Does anyone know where the fireworks can be seen other than the Via Linda
Park itself?

For example, Old Taos Highway maybe .. it has a pretty wide city view, but
then is a long, long way away.

The Via Linda Mall .. er .. Santa Fe Place does have 3,000 parking places
but I'm guessing it'll be pretty much a mess. Maybe not?

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] More food for thought: Is There a Multidimensional Mathematical World Hidden in the Brain’s Computation?

[Owen Densmore]

Frank: what did you think about the algebraic topology bit?

   -- Owen

This week, the Blue Brain Project proposed a fascinating idea
 that
may explain the complexities of the human brain. Using algebraic topology,
a type of mathematics that “projects” complex connections into graphs, they
mapped out a path for complex functions to emerge from the structure of
neural networks.

And get this: while the brain *physically* inhabits our three-dimensional
world, its inner connections—mathematically speaking—operate on a much
higher dimensional space. In human speak: the assembly and disassembly of
neural connections are massively complex, more so than expected. But now we
may have a language to describe them.


On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Vladimyr  wrote:

> Tom Johnson;
>
>
>
> Thank- you
>
>
>
> I felt dumbstruck when I finished reading…
>
> That only reassured me.
>
> Awesome is this news, in the original sense, like a kick to the head.
>
> .vladimyr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Johnson
> *Sent:* June-24-17 1:01 PM
> *To:* Friam@redfish. com
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] More food for thought: Is There a Multidimensional
> Mathematical World Hidden in the Brain’s Computation?
>
>
>
> https://goo.gl/S5yRGF
> 
>
>
> 
> Tom Johnson
> Institute for Analytic Journalism   -- Santa Fe, NM USA
> 505.577.6482 <(505)%20577-6482>(c)
> 505.473.9646 <(505)%20473-9646>(h)
> Society of Professional Journalists 
> *Check out It's The People's Data
> *
>
> http://www.jtjohnson.com   t...@jtjohnson.com
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] IS:New Math Untangles the Mysterious Nature of Causality | WIRED WAS: Layers, not broilers

[Owen Densmore]

>
> https://www.wired.com/story/new-math-untangles-the-mysterious-nature-of-
> causality-consciousness/
>
> I think you all will like this.  I actually think I disapprove, but it’s
> late and I cannot remember why.
>
>  Courtesy of a friend.
>
>
​Love the article, and it seemed reasonably precise.

But. seriously, do you think we're all that interested in the background of
the image of the author at work?
[image: Inline image 1]


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Re: [FRIAM] tools, trollers, and language

[Owen Densmore]

Re Troll & OP, like Steve said.

Re discussions amongst people who disagree: I just read that analysis of
voice & speech patterns could reveal concussion related brain damage far
before normal methods.

Possibly, like IdeaTree, analysing the structure, grammar, word choice, etc
of a conversation, not simply what is said, could also reveal hidden intent
and feelings.

Re complexity as language: Merle has been using complexity concepts and
language for years .. let's get her to chat about it.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] tools, trollers, and language

[Owen Densmore]

No, my troll comment was meant for Nick's OP. Not in an unkind way, but ...

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Steven A Smith  wrote:

> Glen -
>
> I have found concept mapping tools to be helpful in this context, but
> usually in live-brainstorming sessions... with one (or more) operators
> clicking and typing and dragging and connecting while others chatter out
> loud, then shifting the mouse/keyboard(s) to another(s).
>
> I know we have a mind-mapping ( I prefer concept-mapping) tool developer
> on the list...  I'm blanking his name, though I know he has been active off
> and on!  I hope he catches this and pitches in.  I believe he was heading
> toward web-enabled, simultaneous editing capabilities.   I did some tests
> and provided some feedback on an early version a few years ago..
>
> My only significant experience in this is with CMAPtools and a few others
> driven by various project-lead's preferences, but never really adopted by
> myself.
>
> I was in the process of developing some more formal tools with UNM for the
> NSF a few years ago, based on formalisms being developed by Tim Goldsmith
> (dept. Psychology) at UNM.   The presumption WAS (IS) that we all have
> reserved lexicons and for a collaborative group to develop a common one,
> there has to be a lot of discussion and negotiation.  Our example was a
> group of climate change scientists who (un)surprisingly used identical
> terms in very similar contexts with very different intentions and meanings
> in some cases.   It isn't too surprising when you realize that an ocean
> scientist and an atmospheric scientist are very interested in many of the
> same physical properties, but with different emphasis and within different
> regimes.   Pressure, density, humidity, salinity, vorticity all seem to
> have pretty clear meanings to any scientist using them, but the relative
> importance and interaction between them has different implications for each
> group.
>
> Needless to say, we didn't finish the tools before the funding ran out.
> This is now nearly 8 years old work... the ideas area still valid but
> without a patron and without SME's to "test on" it is hard to push such
> tools forward.   My part included building the equivalent of what you call
> "mind maps" from the differing lexical elements, floating in N-space and
> "morphing" from each individual (or subgroup's) perspective to some kind of
> common perspective... with the intention of helping each individual or
> subgroup appreciate the *different* perspective of the others.
>
> This is modestly related to my work in "faceted ontologies" (also
> currently not under active development) where "multiple lexicons" is
> replaced by "multiple ontologies"   or in both cases, the superposition of
> multiple lexicons/ontologies.
>
> I haven't worked with Joslyn since that 2007? paper... but we *tried* a
> joint project with PNNL/NREL a couple of years ago, but it failed due to
> inter-laboratory politics I think.   He's an equally brilliant/oblique
> character as you...   take that for what it is worth!
>
> I liked Frank's double-dog-dare to you.   I think that is one of the good
> things you bring out in this list, all kinds of others' feistiness!  It was
> also good that you could both call it for what it was.  It makes me want to
> read Kohut... I have special reasons for trying to apprehend alternate
> self-psychology models right now, though from your's and Frank's apparent
> avoidance(/dismissal?) of Kahut and my immediate phonetic slip-slide to
> Camus, I'm a little leery.
>
> On 6/8/17 2:33 PM, glen ☣ wrote:
>
>> We quickly polluted that thread, too.  But it drives home the point that
>> an email list is _not_ a (good) collaborative production tool.
>>
>> Aha! I haven't heard from Cliff since my work for the PSL<
>> https://www.psl.nmsu.edu/>.  He supposedly works up at PNNL.  Thanks for
>> that article.
>>
>> Yes, I took Owen to be calling Russ' post a trolling post.  But "troll"
>> is like "complex", meaningless out of context.
>>
>> I'm completely baffled why "layer" isn't understood ... makes me think I
>> must be wrong in some deep way.  But for whatever it's worth, I believe I
>> understand and _agree_ with Nick's circularity criticism of mechanistic
>> explanations for complexity, mostly because of a publication I'm helping
>> develop that tries to classify several different senses of the word
>> "mechanistic".  The 1st attempt was rejected by the journal, though. 8^(
>> But repeating Nick's point back in my own words obviously won't help, here.
>>
>> Yes, I'm willing to help cobble together these posts into a document.
>> But, clearly, I can't be any kind of primary.  If y'all don't even
>> understand what I mean by the word "layer", then whatever I composed would
>> be alien to the other participants.  One idea might be to use a "mind
>> mapping" tool and fill in the bubbles with verbatim snippets of people's
>> posts ... that might help avoid the bias 

Re: [FRIAM] Peculiar pattern found in ‘random’ prime numbers : Nature News & Comment

[Owen Densmore]

Yeah, kinda fascinating observation, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:02 AM, glen ☣  wrote:

> Smells a little like Benford's Law? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Benford's_law
>

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[FRIAM] Peculiar pattern found in ‘random’ prime numbers : Nature News & Comment

[Owen Densmore]

Kinda fascinating new paper on prime numbers:

Prime numbers near to each other tend to avoid repeating their last digits,
the mathematicians say: that is, a prime that ends in 1 is less likely to
be followed by another ending in 1 than one might expect from a random
sequence. “As soon as I saw the numbers, I could see it was true,” says
mathematician James Maynard of the University of Oxford, UK. “It’s a really
nice result.”

http://www.nature.com/news/peculiar-pattern-found-in-random-prime-numbers-1.19550

​   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] IS: Does Complexity have a circularity problem WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

[Owen Densmore]

Troll

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Russ Abbott  wrote:

> Nick,
>
> When you say "This is a great test," I'm not sure what the "this" is.
> Would you mind saying what it is again.
>
> In partial answer to your question about what's left to explain, let me
> quote a list of bullet points I recently wrote when writing about urban
> systems.
>
>
>- Urban systems are open (in the system sense of openness). They
>exchange materials and energy with the world beyond their boundaries.
>
>
>- Urban systems are chaotic (in the formal sense). Small changes in
>initial conditions may produce very different results.
>
>
>- Urban systems are path-dependent.
>
>
>- Urban systems are subject to paradoxes and unintended consequences.
>
>
>- Urban systems involve disproportionate causality. Small causes may
>produce large effects.
>
>
>- Urban systems are adaptive and change through evolutionary
>processes.
>
>
>- Urban systems typically involve multiple (and often large) numbers
>of agents or equivalent sources of energy. As discussed below, many of
>these are causally autonomous.
>
>
>- Urban systems are not in equilibrium.
>
>
>- Urban systems must be sustainable, i.e., it remains within a range
>of relatively familiar or foreseeable states.
>
>
>- Urban systems must be resilient, with mechanisms to return to an
>acceptable state after a serious disruption.
>
>
>- Urban systems must also remain flexible and vital with means to
>adapt to changing conditions.
>
> These tend to be qualities we attribute to (most?) complex systems. Do we
> want to say that all complex systems (most?) have these qualities? Do we
> want to ask how a complex system defined according to definition X
> necessarily develops these qualities or provably has them?
>
> Is this what you are getting at?
>
> -- Russ
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Russ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Something Glen said suggests to me that my concerns about circularity are
>> detracking this thread from its Higher Purpose.  I have therefore started a
>> new thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for providing this definition.  It really helps to mark my
>> concern.  I would argue that what you are offering here is *an
>> explanation of* complex systems, and that this definition actually begs
>> the question of what is a complex system.  Yeah.  I know.  Where do I
>> muster the arrogance to make such an assertion?
>>
>>
>>
>> Try this:  Let it be the case that you define complex systems in the way
>> you have, what is left to be explained about  them?  In other words, if
>> this is what complex systems ARE, what are you still curious about?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you take seriously the definition of complex system I have given (or
>> some other non-explanatory definition), then your definition here *becomes
>> a [heuristic]  theory of complex systems*.  It answers the question, How
>> did complex systems come about?  What are the essential conditions for the
>> occurrence of such systems.  And we can precede to ask ourselves, as an
>> empirical matter, how many of these features are actually necessary (or
>> sufficient) for a complex system to arise.  From my point of view, what
>> complexity-folk always do is insist that discussants endorse a particularly
>> explanatory metaphor BEFORE any question can be raised.  That would be like
>> insisting that discussants endorse the proposition that natural selection
>> explains evolution before we get to ask the question, What is evolution and
>> how did it come about?
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great test.  If I cannot convince you, and the others, to see
>> any possible perils in the sort of definition you offer here, then you
>> probably should just go back to “painting the floor” and leave me to rave
>> in peace about the fact that there is no door in the corner you are so
>> skillfully painting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for putting the matter so clearly.  Clarity is an absolute
>> necessity for progress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ
>> Abbott
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2017 12:21 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't define complex system. (Actually, this thread is so long I may
>> have offered one. I don't remember.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I take a complex system to be a system (do we need to define that?
>> Presumably some collection of interacting entities around which one can
>> draw a boundary that distinguishes the collection from its environment.)
>> that has the following characteristics/capabilities.
>>
>>- It can acquire and store 

Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

[Owen Densmore]

Hey, thanks! I had Cosma's old page .. umich .. what a great site and blog.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> “He stayed with DEC until retirement, taking a few years sabbatical to
> work at a startup which sold out big enough to give him room to then
> singlehandedly build a PASCAL compiler and P-Code interpreter for the
> pre-DOS IBM PC”
>
> Was his startup in Vancouver or Burnaby, BC?
>
> --Barry
>
>
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

[Owen Densmore]

​Unfortunately, my experience w/ IBM whilst at Xerox (1970-78) was that a
small cave of IBM 360s were used in a highly secure building while all the
free spirits were​ using Fortran, Ratfor (Bell labs c-like rational fortran
transpiler), APL, bcpl (on the Altos). We found it easy to work with DEC,
HP, Kodak and other research outfits, but not IBM.

We did have success with them when building a tiny 1Mb ethernet chip ..
which we used in copiers .. the usual ethernets were 10Mb by then. IBM
thought we were crazy. Literally.

And then half-way thru my stay there, TCP/IP exploded on the scene and we
all transferred from our internal PARC suite to it. Took a while to convert
but because we use ethernet from the beginning with home-made protocols,
the conversion wasn't that bad.

In that period, the IBM systems were way slow to join the party. They
preferred various "Star" networks that naturally had a server in the middle.

But that may have been Xerox .. afterall they made the Sigma systems so
those were preferred while the 360s remained behind locked doors. Their
network was sneaker-net with tapes.

When I went to Apple, IBM also literally laughed at Jobs. Ha! Sun also had
difficulty with IBM, they couldn't grok Unix, and "knew better". So we
built proxies to work around them but in isolation.

All this is too bad because they had great tech in certain areas, and
coopetition is a Good Thing.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Owen Densmore]

Nick: would this thread, and past similar ones, be a good start for your
Friam Discussions project? I can help you if you need it.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Dutch households will use servers to heat their showers for free - The Verge

[Owen Densmore]

I mean, if it were April, I'd give it a laugh. Holy cow, it's real!

I tried to get a bunch of folks together to give away computers if we'd get
half of their resources. The guys with the computer would have to power it,
get it updates, hook up a net, etc.

We'd get the computrons and networking.

A clear win and these dudes do it with calories. Who'da thought!

Sweet.

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Re: [FRIAM] Arrow's theorem or this mailing list?

[Owen Densmore]

So, so, right!

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> https://xkcd.com/1844/
>
> -- rec --
>
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Re: [FRIAM] The Thoughts of a Spiderweb

[Owen Densmore]

Well, it's radical enough! Hmm.. I suppose all the inventions that prop us
up may also be extensions of our cognitive apparatus?

Good point on terminals as well, maybe browser tabs too?

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] IS: Ruminations from the M.I. S. WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

[Owen Densmore]

​OK so who'd be willing to help Nick?​

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:51 AM, ┣glen┫ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I participated in a document co-authored by a ridiculous number of
> people.  We used Google Docs.  It was significant work for the primaries.
> But I think it worked very well in capturing a literal room full of
> people's perspectives:
>
>   http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/oee1-ws-report-submitted.pdf
>
> On 05/29/2017 08:45 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> > But Nick, I gave you the answer. Unfortunately there is no way to
> automate
> > it but the Friam list is archived and you could search/browse through it
> > for topics you think would make a nice discussion.
> >
> > Then you use medium.com to put it together. You can have all the
> > participants help spiff it up too.
>
>
> --
> ␦glen?
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

[Owen Densmore]

@guerin: thanks for the great discussion, I gotta sort my mail by "from" &
"time".

I like the use of Phase Space, Control variable and Order variable.

Let me make sure of the usage:
Phase Space: an axis-per-variable describing a system
Control variables: the values held constant during an experiment/model run
Order variable: a value derived from the phase space, given the control set?
.. i.e. I'm not sure how Order variable is being used.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] IS: Ruminations from the M.I. S. WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

[Owen Densmore]

But Nick, I gave you the answer. Unfortunately there is no way to automate
it but the Friam list is archived and you could search/browse through it
for topics you think would make a nice discussion.

Then you use medium.com to put it together. You can have all the
participants help spiff it up too.

   -- Owen

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Marcus Daniels 
wrote:

> "Download the archive from Redfish and then try to arrange it in any
> readable fashion, as, say, one might read it in a book as a Famous
> Correspondence."
>
> That's like trying to participate in a game by reading the box scores.
>
> Marcus
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Re: [FRIAM] Facebook. And this it not a troll

[Owen Densmore]

Hey, I'm not alone:

[image: Inline image 1]

​Now we can keep up with Stephen .. who's right, as far as I can tell. One
of the very early ​videos was on the never entirely answered question "what
IS complexity?"

I'm loving it so far.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Facebook. And this it not a troll

[Owen Densmore]

>
> Owen,
>
>
>
> Define “want”.
>
>
>
> Nick
>

​In this case, it's a marketing term. Silly Valley often provided to its
customers what bright shiny toy they had and was slick and new. But they
were alway crushed by people having much more human goals like making sure
granny took her meds.

People won in that they ​knew how to shape the bright shiny into what was
useful for them, got granny to take her meds.

That's want. Vs Slick Willy and the Techies.

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Re: [FRIAM] Facebook. And this it not a troll

[Owen Densmore]

Boy, good point. AOL attempted to be a walled garden, providing all the
(then) internet capabilities. But it collapsed under it's own weight,
primarily due to its financial model being, at base, an ISP.

FB on the other hand "got it", they aren't an ISP (but they are building
out networking in the third world so that people can use FB). Instead they
are an enabler. I can imagine them discussing "what do people WANT". Well,
apparently, they want to be a warm pile of puppies, happily interacting and
being silly and just having fun.

   -- Owen

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com>
wrote:

> Facebook. It's not your father's AOL.
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm following Melanie Mitchell's SFI complexity mooc.
>>   https://www.complexityexplorer.org/courses/74-
>> introduction-to-complexity-spring-2017/segments/5687
>>
>> In the first video, it was mentioned Facebook is a fascinating example of
>> a complex system, and in particular, how information traverses the network.
>>
>> So here's a group question or two:
>> - If you use Facebook, how do you use it and why?
>> - And if yes, how is it an information source for you?
>>
>> My interest is the contrast between Facebook and Twitter. Twitter is "the
>> most information per square inch" but Facebook seems to me to be all over
>> the map.
>>
>> A second difference is that there are people for which Facebook *is* The
>> Web. By that I mean they enter it and stay there. It is their "email",
>> "web", "social", "team (slack)", "tv" (FB recently started streaming
>> video), and more. Sorta like the browser is for other ecosystems.
>>
>> So any interesting observation on The FaceBook Phenomenon?
>>
>>-- Owen
>>
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[FRIAM] Facebook. And this it not a troll

[Owen Densmore]

I'm following Melanie Mitchell's SFI complexity mooc.

https://www.complexityexplorer.org/courses/74-introduction-to-complexity-spring-2017/segments/5687

In the first video, it was mentioned Facebook is a fascinating example of a
complex system, and in particular, how information traverses the network.

So here's a group question or two:
- If you use Facebook, how do you use it and why?
- And if yes, how is it an information source for you?

My interest is the contrast between Facebook and Twitter. Twitter is "the
most information per square inch" but Facebook seems to me to be all over
the map.

A second difference is that there are people for which Facebook *is* The
Web. By that I mean they enter it and stay there. It is their "email",
"web", "social", "team (slack)", "tv" (FB recently started streaming
video), and more. Sorta like the browser is for other ecosystems.

So any interesting observation on The FaceBook Phenomenon?

   -- Owen

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