Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread Joshua Thorp
>  (mail, contacts, calendar, music, bookmarks, ...)

Which of these didn't google have in the cloud before apple? ;) 




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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread Owen Densmore
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:

> See this:  Rooting Your Android Phone: FAQ 
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/214697/article.html#tk.nl_pvx_h_crawl
> 
> I'm using a variety of apps -- primarily DropBox, but others like 
> Gladinet.com  -- that sync everything to my Cloud storage without anything 
> that Apple might come up with.

Good pointer, thanks.

I've had to "jailbreak" then "unlock" my iPhone.  I believe "rooting" is 
equivalent to jailbreak, right?

I'm not sure if I need to unlock the phone myself, tmobile has always been 
willing to send me the codes for it when I travel to europe.  And I certainly 
don't want to unlock just to go to ATT!

   -- Owen



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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread Gillian Densmore
I had a short discution with some friends sort of related to the iOS
vs Android topic and it came down to this:
iOS is a bit more forgiving on the end user end and by and large has a
set audiance, while Android has a bit more diversity.
Company politics company polotics... I guess it realy comes down to:
Ok so wich companies model do you prefer? Android (at least for the
moment) being more "cloud" centric-some free apps some for pay (though
cheep) apps? Where as iOS you have only one phone. Some Android OS
phones do target specific audiances wich even the relatively
conservative CNET has critisized (such as motorolas Defty and Droid).
>From reviews the Galaxy netpad and phone are relatively light in terms
of preinstalled apps.I don't know anything about the icloud it might
be a bit early to say-googles been in the cloud model for longer than
apple. On the other hand Apples has been in the OS and Computing
business long enough that they could have a sexy nich.  The question
you may want to ask yourself though is since both companies are being
dicks which one is the smaller dick?
All cariers suck to be honest. Though verizon slightly less so.
And yes to 'do as I please" with a netpad and or AndroidOS phone
you'll need to be prepared to pay a lot. Although with a few small
exceptions everyphone and netpad have some mechanic to unlock them.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> [Note: widened from wedtech to include friam, see attached.]
>
> From /.: Advocacy Group Files FCC Complaint Over Verizon Tethering Ban
>        http://goo.gl/ynL9A
>
> I believe I now am in the same spot with android as with iphone: I will have 
> to at least jail break any phone I own, and heck, might as well unlock it 
> while I'm at it.
>
> This surprises me.  Android was to be the hacker's delight, a Google "no 
> evil" phone that allows me to use it as I please.  Not a sissy iphone where 
> Apple rules my life and limits my options.
>
> After yesterdays announcement of the iTunes cloud (where they store not only 
> your bought media in their cloud, but any CDs you rip and have in iTunes!!), 
> I'm rethinking just how free Google etc are over Apple.
>
> I still plan to complete my conversion to gmail, and the Google ecology has 
> lots of advantages.  But Apple is gaining fast with everything (mail, 
> contacts, calendar, music, bookmarks, ...) in iCloud and accessible 
> everywhere.
>
> If this works, and that's a big IF, and if they can be cross-platform .. at 
> least windows if not linux/unix (a bigger IF!), Google will start to look 
> like a chaotic mess of non-integrated parts while Apple, once again, solves 
> the user's problem.
>        http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/demoted
>
>  -- Owen
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>
>> The Vibrant came with tethering and wifi hotspot applications installed, but 
>> I haven't tried them.
>>
>> You want an unlocked phone, then buy a Nexus-S.  Consider it a $500 vote for 
>> the phone you want to use.  You want a subsidized phone, then be prepared to 
>> put up with all the crapware and attempts to control your usage that the 
>> manufacturers and carriers feel like trying out on you.
>>
>> -- rec --
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
>> I thought android was "open" .. i.e. you could install just about anything 
>> you'd like.
>>
>> But I just read about tethering wifi, and the story had options from rooting 
>> the phone to fairly expensive (and dubious) "apps".
>>
>> So what's the deal here.  Is it "open"?  Or am I back to hacking my phone 
>> like I had to do with iPhone jailbrake/unlock?  Or is it somewhere in 
>> between.
>>
>> How many of us are tethering wifi nowadays?  Do the carriers care?
>>
>>       -- Owen
>
>        -- Owen
>
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread Owen Densmore
[Note: widened from wedtech to include friam, see attached.]

>From /.: Advocacy Group Files FCC Complaint Over Verizon Tethering Ban
http://goo.gl/ynL9A 

I believe I now am in the same spot with android as with iphone: I will have to 
at least jail break any phone I own, and heck, might as well unlock it while 
I'm at it.

This surprises me.  Android was to be the hacker's delight, a Google "no evil" 
phone that allows me to use it as I please.  Not a sissy iphone where Apple 
rules my life and limits my options.

After yesterdays announcement of the iTunes cloud (where they store not only 
your bought media in their cloud, but any CDs you rip and have in iTunes!!), 
I'm rethinking just how free Google etc are over Apple.

I still plan to complete my conversion to gmail, and the Google ecology has 
lots of advantages.  But Apple is gaining fast with everything (mail, contacts, 
calendar, music, bookmarks, ...) in iCloud and accessible everywhere.

If this works, and that's a big IF, and if they can be cross-platform .. at 
least windows if not linux/unix (a bigger IF!), Google will start to look like 
a chaotic mess of non-integrated parts while Apple, once again, solves the 
user's problem.
http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/demoted

  -- Owen


On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

> The Vibrant came with tethering and wifi hotspot applications installed, but 
> I haven't tried them.
> 
> You want an unlocked phone, then buy a Nexus-S.  Consider it a $500 vote for 
> the phone you want to use.  You want a subsidized phone, then be prepared to 
> put up with all the crapware and attempts to control your usage that the 
> manufacturers and carriers feel like trying out on you.
> 
> -- rec --
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> I thought android was "open" .. i.e. you could install just about anything 
> you'd like.
> 
> But I just read about tethering wifi, and the story had options from rooting 
> the phone to fairly expensive (and dubious) "apps".
> 
> So what's the deal here.  Is it "open"?  Or am I back to hacking my phone 
> like I had to do with iPhone jailbrake/unlock?  Or is it somewhere in between.
> 
> How many of us are tethering wifi nowadays?  Do the carriers care?
> 
>   -- Owen

-- Owen



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