Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
John Latham wrote: Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:27:37 -0600 From: Gregg Dameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fvwm@fvwm.org John Latham wrote: I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful, ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'') If a solution to the 1x1 presents itself, please post it. We've been fighting this one in 2.4.7 (and prior to that, under fvwm95 for many years). It seems to happen more frequently if the CPU is under load. Gregg Dameron Success -- I just managed it!!! I have in the last day or so started to build up a set of togglable java bug work arounds to put on the menu in AnotherLevelUp. This allows the user to switch them on/off at will in a persistent way (i.e. next start/restart has them on/off as you last left them). This reduces the risk of unforseen side effects, if they were enabled for everyone all the time, and allows users to experiment and report back what works, how and when. Thanks for your post, John - please excuse my delay in responding. Strangely, our 1x1 dialog problem is not Java related. It's happening on dialogs created by XmCreateMessageDialog() in C code. As I mentioned, it's more likely to occur when the CPU is under load and/or the X server has a backlog of events to work through due to being swapped out. Our workaround is to add a map callback for the dialog; when it fires, we see if the dialog was mapped too small and if so, allow the dialog shell to become resizeable (we are also looking at a programmatic forced resize to a hardwired height and width). My suspicion is that both your problem and ours have the same root cause, but at this point I can't be sure whether it's an fvwm problem or an X server problem. (We run 2.4.7 on Solaris 8 now; previously we ran fvwm95 on Solaris 7.) I'd be curious to know if anyone else has seen the 1x1 problem outside of Java. Gregg Dameron -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:27:37 -0600 From: Gregg Dameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fvwm@fvwm.org John Latham wrote: I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful, ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'') If a solution to the 1x1 presents itself, please post it. We've been fighting this one in 2.4.7 (and prior to that, under fvwm95 for many years). It seems to happen more frequently if the CPU is under load. Gregg Dameron Success -- I just managed it!!! I have in the last day or so started to build up a set of togglable java bug work arounds to put on the menu in AnotherLevelUp. This allows the user to switch them on/off at will in a persistent way (i.e. next start/restart has them on/off as you last left them). This reduces the risk of unforseen side effects, if they were enabled for everyone all the time, and allows users to experiment and report back what works, how and when. So far I have implemented 3, and 2 of them certainly seem to help, at least with blackdown's jdk1.3. I have yet to see any effect from the first one below. For now I am calling them: 1) BugOpts ModalityIsEvil 2) Style AWTdialog ResizeHintOverride 3) FvwmEvent AWT add_window Deiconify 1) is one of the recommended Java 1.3 `fixes', but I have not yet seen it have any effect (but have not really given it a good try). 2) I have just managed to successfully use this against a 1x1 modal dialog -- I was able to stretch it out and the real contents appeared!! We're celebrating here! (BTW, it was the tip of the day dialog for Together 6.) 3) I have successfully used this to get around the non-reappearing dialog and (app) windows: viz a dialog is created and mapped, user dismisses it, then later it is reshown, but is remapped iconified. Particularly devastating if you do not have transient windows appearing in task vars or as icons, etc.. This fix deiconifies all AWTdialog and AWTapp windows when they are mapped, and it seems to work so far. I can post the toggle mechanism that AnotherLevelUp uses, if you wish, but attached are the guts of the work arounds so far, as hopefully self evident functions. Best wishes, John Latham DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOn AddToFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOn + I BugOpts ModalityIsEvil DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOff AddToFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOff + I FvwmForm RestartAfterChanges DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOn AddToFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOn + I Style AWTdialog ResizeHintOverride + I Recapture DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOff AddToFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOff + I Style AWTdialog NoResizeOverride + I Recapture DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOn AddToFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOn + I *JAVAFvwmEvent: Cmd Function + I *JAVAFvwmEvent: PassID + I *JAVAFvwmEvent: add_window DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT + I Module FvwmEvent JAVAFvwmEvent DestroyFunc DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT AddToFunc DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT + I WindowId $0 (AWTapp) Iconify off + I WindowId $0 (AWTdialog) Iconify off DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOff AddToFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOff + I KillModule FvwmEvent JAVAFvwmEvent + I DestroyModuleConfig JAVAFvwmEvent* *RestartAfterChangesWarpPointer *RestartAfterChangesFontfixed *RestartAfterChangesButtonFont *helvetica*medium-r*12* *RestartAfterChangesInputFont fixed *RestartAfterChangesFore#FF *RestartAfterChangesBack#E64080 *RestartAfterChangesItemFore#FF *RestartAfterChangesItemBack#19007F *RestartAfterChangesLine left *RestartAfterChangesText The changes you have made will not apply until you *RestartAfterChangesLine left *RestartAfterChangesText next restart Fvwm2. *RestartAfterChangesLine expand *RestartAfterChangesLine left *RestartAfterChangesText If you want to make more changes first, *RestartAfterChangesLine left *RestartAfterChangesText you may ignore this form until you are ready, *RestartAfterChangesLine left *RestartAfterChangesText or make it go away for now. *RestartAfterChangesLine expand *RestartAfterChangesLine expand *RestartAfterChangesLine expand *RestartAfterChangesButton quit I want to Restart now ^M *RestartAfterChangesCommand Function ReallyRestartWithoutRandomPreferences *RestartAfterChangesButton quit Go away - I will Restart later ^C *RestartAfterChangesCommand Nop Style RestartAfterChanges StaysOnTop,Sticky AddToFunc ReallyRestartWithoutRandomPreferences # AnotherLevelUp has lots of stuff here, but the main thing is: + I Restart -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list,
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: Ah. On the FVWM home page it says: Latest Alpha Release: 2.5.3 which I must admit has coloured my thinking a bit. Doh. When the web site is updated the next time it will read very unstable instead of alpha. 1) I am at this point using 2.5.2 more or less because I have to. I used a very early version of fvmw for years with no problems and then upgraded to xwindows 4.2 which caused significant problems with the mouse-menu interaction. An upgrade to fvwm-2.4.8 did not solve the problems whereas the alpha version fvwm-2.5.2 did. I've used fvwm-2.5.2 for a while now and for my use it works fine. With fvwm-2.5.3 the problems started again. 2) It looks like the following are not getting execute permission when installed. For instance: sh-2.05b# fvwm-bug sh: /usr/local/bin/fvwm-bug: Permission denied A chmod fixes it. fvwm-bug fvwm-config fvwm-convert-2.4 fvwm-convert-2.6 fvwm-menu-desktop fvwm-menu-directory fvwm-menu-headlines fvwm-menu-xlock fvwm-perllib 3) I built with the following configure options --enable-debug-msgs --enable-command-log and it builds fine but I don't understand where the messages get piped to. syslogd? an fvwm console? -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
John Latham wrote: I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful, ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'') If a solution to the 1x1 presents itself, please post it. We've been fighting this one in 2.4.7 (and prior to that, under fvwm95 for many years). It seems to happen more frequently if the CPU is under load. Gregg Dameron -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: Furthermore, *if* you stumble across a problem that is really bad, you may be forced to upgrade to a version that's very unstable. Right now I'm planning to rewrite major parts of the menu loop, the builtin command interface and the main event loop - three of fvwm's most central parts. Meanwhile, I have switched to using 2.5.3 personally -- I had been using 2.5.3 but had a lot of problems with the mouse and drop down menus and switched back to 2.5.2. Typically if I'm above an xterm (say) and move the mouse rapidly up and down a root drop down menu, eventually it looses the menu and highlights the xterm. I have a dual processor 2.1Ghz motherboard so I don't think its some kind of a speed issue, but I also have a tiny usb mouse, and it zips all over the screen. Bruce. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:01:14 +0200 On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:13:18PM +0100, John Latham wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:17:29 +0200 From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org I was building a Red Hat ready fvwm2.5.2 RPM which we are probably going to use here at Manchester CS. Don't do that! It's not even alpha quality. ... Don't let perceived stability fool you. You just haven't triggered the buggy or crashing parts. That's fine for you as an individual, but don't underestimate the creativity of 700 users. Oh, and bugs that were introduced and fixed in the development versions *don't* show up in the NEWS, only in the ChangeLog. ... Just to make this clear: No 2.5.x release was 'alpha' quality yet. Being 'alpha' means that it is good enough to consider heading for a stable release after extensive tests have been done. That's why it's called a 'development release' in the NEWS. Ah. On the FVWM home page it says: Latest Alpha Release: 2.5.3 which I must admit has coloured my thinking a bit. Thank you for the very sobering warning. *If* we go with 2.5 it will be monitored very carefully and we will fall straight back to 2.4.x if we have problems. But I suspect it is easy for you to underestimate the dire pain already caused by the Java/FVWM mismatches (It's also easy to overestimate our users' creativity -- more to the pity!!) I'll weigh up the 2.4 Java weapons with the 2.5 ones. I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful, ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'') Of course, I'll have RPMS for 2.4.[6-9] up my sleeve in case the worst should happen. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ Best wishes, John Latham -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:46:48PM +0100, John Latham wrote: From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:01:14 +0200 On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:13:18PM +0100, John Latham wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:17:29 +0200 From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org I was building a Red Hat ready fvwm2.5.2 RPM which we are probably going to use here at Manchester CS. Don't do that! It's not even alpha quality. ... Don't let perceived stability fool you. You just haven't triggered the buggy or crashing parts. That's fine for you as an individual, but don't underestimate the creativity of 700 users. Oh, and bugs that were introduced and fixed in the development versions *don't* show up in the NEWS, only in the ChangeLog. ... Just to make this clear: No 2.5.x release was 'alpha' quality yet. Being 'alpha' means that it is good enough to consider heading for a stable release after extensive tests have been done. That's why it's called a 'development release' in the NEWS. Ah. On the FVWM home page it says: Latest Alpha Release: 2.5.3 which I must admit has coloured my thinking a bit. Doh. When the web site is updated the next time it will read very unstable instead of alpha. Thank you for the very sobering warning. *If* we go with 2.5 it will be monitored very carefully and we will fall straight back to 2.4.x if we have problems. But I suspect it is easy for you to underestimate the dire pain already caused by the Java/FVWM mismatches (It's also easy to overestimate our users' creativity -- more to the pity!!) I'll weigh up the 2.4 Java weapons with the 2.5 ones. I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful, ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'') Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:17:29 +0200 From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org I was building a Red Hat ready fvwm2.5.2 RPM which we are probably going to use here at Manchester CS. Don't do that! It's not even alpha quality. I can't decide whether your are advising using 2.5.3, or 2.4.9 instead! :-) 2.5.2 does *seem* very stable. I have used it everyday since early July, and it has not crashed. :-) All (certainly most) of the ~700 users will be using the same configuration package as I have been using, i.e. AnotherLevelUp (otherwise it would be a little dangerous, I agree). I have added a patch to fix the task bar start button context problem I reported yesterday (thanks for fixing in CVS, Mikhael). The most persuasive motive for using 2.5 rather than 2.4 is it's extra features that *might* help in the desperate war against the Java/FVWM mismatch -- which has reached critical status now that all our undergraduates write so much Java :-( Meanwhile, I have switched to using 2.5.3 personally -- so far so good. I have probably got about 3 weeks to try 2.5.3 and use that instead if there have been no serious problems. My current reasoning is this: 2.5.2 was alpha last month, and the problems found in it since did not screw up AnotherLevelUp. Now, 2.5.3 is alpha, but it has not been tested with AnotherLevelUp for a month! Maybe the problems in 2.5.3 will screw up AnotherLevelUp -- I'll let you know if they do, but while I find out, 2.5.2 is actually a safer bet Of course, I'll have RPMS for 2.4.[6-9] up my sleeve in case the worst should happen. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ Best wishes, John Latham -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On 23 Aug 2002 23:32:02 +0200, Imre Vida wrote: This also suggests that the maintainers are aware of (at least some) problems on this front. This is to put it very softly, as John did it earlier a bit naughty against all those stupid users like me. Well, the multibyte support is marked experimental in 2.4.x and disabled by default. Sorry it caused you any problems. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 09:14:54AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 23 Aug 2002 23:32:02 +0200, Imre Vida wrote: This also suggests that the maintainers are aware of (at least some) problems on this front. This is to put it very softly, as John did it earlier a bit naughty against all those stupid users like me. Well, the multibyte support is marked experimental in 2.4.x and disabled by default. Sorry it caused you any problems. sorry, the criticism was not directed against you. I was just somewhat puzzled by what you said. To have an experimetal feature is fine, but to have it enabled in a stable distribution (Debian and RH) is not - especially when it is not documented for the user. But again this should be directed to a different forum. imre -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
--- Ionel Mugurel Ciobica [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : În data de 21-08-2002, la 11h 06'39, Mikhael Goikhman (migo) scria cãtre fvwm, despre Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4: I have the same problem with fvwm 2.4.x. Every time I install a new package with dselect or with apt-get the fvwm get updated to 2.4.x. and then I can't login, the error is the same with the fixed font. I have to manually downgrade fvwm to 2.2.4 (hopefully I still have a *.deb for that). Try to compile fvwm manually In my case: 1. I did not compile fvwm myself. I use the *.deb file from woody. 2. I use locale ro_RO.ISO-8859-16. I use export LC_ALL=ro_RO export LANG=ro in .xinitrc no problems I think the locale for Romania should be ro_RO.ISO-8859-2. Is there any reason for using ro_RO.ISO-8859-16 ? 3. fvwm exits immediately. What errors are printed ? Try to redirect stderr from fvwm to a file. I also have compatibilities problems because I use fvwm 2.2.4-2 instead of 2.4.6-2. fvwm recommends fvwm-common, xlibs conflicts with fvwm-common. I think I need an older xlibs (I have 4.1.0-17). But I can't find, for instance 4.1.0-14. I never can exit from the dselect menu. I have to make a full upgrade and then dpkg -i fvwm_2.2.4-2.deb. Packages problems :-) If you compile it manually maybe you can fool debian that you have what he wants while still running your favourite version of fvwm. Thank you, Ionel Calin ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On 23 Aug 2002 17:14:55 +0200, szonyi calin wrote: 2. I use locale ro_RO.ISO-8859-16. I think the locale for Romania should be ro_RO.ISO-8859-2. Is there any reason for using ro_RO.ISO-8859-16 ? It includes the euro sign and some other small changes AFAIK. I suppose fvwm-2.4.x exits when it does not find fixed *-iso8859-16 font. By the way these patches to replace searching for strictly fixed font were demanded by the Debian maintainer, I think he included these or similar patches before creating debs anyway. I hoped he or someone else will reply to other Debian specific questions asked in this thread. I don't have ro_RO.ISO-8859-16 locale on my system to test anything. Anyway the solution should be to use fonts existing in your locale or explicitely specify charset (like *-fixed-*-iso8859-2) when defining fonts, or switch to 2.5.x where i18n and font handling is much improved. But prepare to get warnings if the used fonts do not match your locale. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 06:33:59PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Is there any reason for using ro_RO.ISO-8859-16 ? It includes the euro sign and some other small changes AFAIK. I suppose fvwm-2.4.x exits when it does not find fixed *-iso8859-16 font. By the way these patches to replace searching for strictly fixed font were demanded by the Debian maintainer, I think he included these or similar patches before creating debs anyway. Sorry, but i don't understand this: If such a patch was requested and applied why does the program exit after not finding one set of fixed fonts? ((There is only one errormsg /to be precise - one msg twice/, and also it is misleading as it does not specify that it is looking for /in my case/ *-iso8859-15 fonts.)) This also suggests that the maintainers are aware of (at least some) problems on this front. This is to put it very softly, as John did it earlier a bit naughty against all those stupid users like me. Imre -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On 21 Aug 2002 00:14:21 +0200, Imre Vida wrote: i run my machine under Debian woody. When i tried to switch to fvwm i had problems running fvwm (offical deb package v2.4.8). First i could not get it started with xdm but was still able to launch it from an xterm. Later on, however, i was not able to launch it at all what ever i tried. Finally i decided to down load the source and compile it myself, First i downloaded v.2.5.2 and it was running fine but later on i thought it would be may be safer to have the stable version. And now that i compiled and tried to run v2.4.9 i have exactly the same problem. There are two error messeges about fvwm not being able to find a fontset: [FVWM][GetFontSetOrFixed]: WARNING -- can't get fontset 'fixed', trying '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' [FVWM][GetFontSetOrFixed]: ERROR -- can't get fontset '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' The xserver /xfontsel/ does know about these fonts so they are definitely not missing (and the fontsever is running). Originally i had xdm setup to start up the window manager. In this case, after a blank window i got back to the login window (while any other window man e.g. icewm, sawfish or even gnome-session can be started without probs). xdm.log says: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). warning: process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested (but i believe this is not about fvwm) I also tried to start fvwm from an xterm only xsession: i got the above errormsg about the fontset and nothing else hapens interestingly before the restart this worked despite the errormsgs. I tried this also as root - no difference. And run strace: i find the same erromsgs but nothing else that would give me a cue what is going on. Three questions to you. 1) Did you built 2.4.x with --enable-multibyte? (run: fvwm-config -s) 2) What is your locale? (run: locale) 3) Does fvwm immediately exit? If no, do you get the root menu? Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
În data de 21-08-2002, la 11h 06'39, Mikhael Goikhman (migo) scria către fvwm, despre Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4: On 21 Aug 2002 00:14:21 +0200, Imre Vida wrote: i run my machine under Debian woody. When i tried to switch to fvwm i had problems running fvwm (offical deb package v2.4.8). Three questions to you. 1) Did you built 2.4.x with --enable-multibyte? (run: fvwm-config -s) 2) What is your locale? (run: locale) 3) Does fvwm immediately exit? If no, do you get the root menu? I have the same problem with fvwm 2.4.x. Every time I install a new package with dselect or with apt-get the fvwm get updated to 2.4.x. and then I can't login, the error is the same with the fixed font. I have to manually downgrade fvwm to 2.2.4 (hopefully I still have a *.deb for that). In my case: 1. I did not compile fvwm myself. I use the *.deb file from woody. 2. I use locale ro_RO.ISO-8859-16. 3. fvwm exits immediately. I also have compatibilities problems because I use fvwm 2.2.4-2 instead of 2.4.6-2. fvwm recommends fvwm-common, xlibs conflicts with fvwm-common. I think I need an older xlibs (I have 4.1.0-17). But I can't find, for instance 4.1.0-14. I never can exit from the dselect menu. I have to make a full upgrade and then dpkg -i fvwm_2.2.4-2.deb. Thank you, Ionel -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:25:34 +0200 From: Ionel Mugurel Ciobica [EMAIL PROTECTED] =CEn data de 21-08-2002, la 11h 06'39, Mikhael Goikhman (migo) scria c=E3= tre fvwm, despre Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4: On 21 Aug 2002 00:14:21 +0200, Imre Vida wrote: =20 i run my machine under Debian woody. =20 When i tried to switch to fvwm i had problems running fvwm (offical deb package v2.4.8).=20 =20 =20 Three questions to you. =20 1) Did you built 2.4.x with --enable-multibyte? (run: fvwm-config -s) =20 2) What is your locale? (run: locale) =20 3) Does fvwm immediately exit? If no, do you get the root menu? I have the same problem with fvwm 2.4.x. Every time I install a new package with dselect or with apt-get the fvwm get updated to 2.4.x. and then I can't login, the error is the same with the fixed font. I have to manually downgrade fvwm to 2.2.4 (hopefully I still have a *.deb for that). In my case: 1. I did not compile fvwm myself. I use the *.deb file from woody. 2. I use locale ro_RO.ISO-8859-16. 3. fvwm exits immediately. ... I had similar problems with 2.4.6 as distributed by Red Hat 7.3, and with 2.4.8 when I compiled it myself with the multi-byte option. I ended up concluding that multi-byte is flakey on the 2.4 series when used with a non-posix locale, and that Red Hat had been a bit naughty to enable it in their distro. It all seems fine in 2.5. Nobody on this list confirmed that summary. Perhaps Debian has enabled it too? Two fixes are: Recompile without the -enable-multi-byte option. Or, of you want to use a pre-compiled dodgey 2.4 binary: Right near the start of your config file, insert: SetEnv LANG C SetEnv LC_CTYPE Good luck. Best wishes, John Latham P.s. I have been using FVWM 2.5.2 every day since early July, and it has been very stable I'me even thinking of using it here for our 700+ linux users! -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
Hi, i run my machine under Debian woody. When i tried to switch to fvwm i had problems running fvwm (offical deb package v2.4.8). First i could not get it started with xdm but was still able to launch it from an xterm. Later on, however, i was not able to launch it at all what ever i tried. Finally i decided to down load the source and compile it myself, First i downloaded v.2.5.2 and it was running fine but later on i thought it would be may be safer to have the stable version. And now that i compiled and tried to run v2.4.9 i have exactly the same problem. There are two error messeges about fvwm not being able to find a fontset: [FVWM][GetFontSetOrFixed]: WARNING -- can't get fontset 'fixed', trying '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' [FVWM][GetFontSetOrFixed]: ERROR -- can't get fontset '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' The xserver /xfontsel/ does know about these fonts so they are definitely not missing (and the fontsever is running). Originally i had xdm setup to start up the window manager. In this case, after a blank window i got back to the login window (while any other window man e.g. icewm, sawfish or even gnome-session can be started without probs). xdm.log says: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). warning: process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested (but i believe this is not about fvwm) I also tried to start fvwm from an xterm only xsession: i got the above errormsg about the fontset and nothing else hapens interestingly before the restart this worked despite the errormsgs. I tried this also as root - no difference. And run strace: i find the same erromsgs but nothing else that would give me a cue what is going on. I hope some of you do have an idea what could the problem imre -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
