Re: OS9 install on G4 gives Unimplemented Trap
On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 400MHz G4 PowerMac (Gigabit Ethernet, I believe) on which I wish to install OS9. I have a retail version of the OS (white CD with gold 9 logo and marked Z691-2386-A). When I boot from the CD I get an Unimplemented Trap error. Since the Gigabit shipped with 9.04 your retail 9.1 CD should be fine. I own the same CD which came with my Jaguar Retail kit, it's been fine for the most part, however sometimes booting or installing has been problematic for unknown reasons. I've been the Big System Morsels error more often than Unimplemented Trap, but I've seen both. You may have seen this Apple KBA: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=18999 It says Unimplemented Trap can be spurious which I think means keep trying? I think I've had this happen once before, and I can't remember what I did, perhaps shuffle RAM or something, but since these can be spurious perhaps my solution was just luck? Since OS 9 needs hardly any RAM you might try a single stick? I'm assuming you're using a separate HD for OS 9 since you're talking about swapping? I think this is best myself, I hate mixing OS 9 and OS X on the same HD, but if you can't get going perhaps you could try the NetBoot OS 9.2.2 that installs from OS X. You'd need to have both HDs in the Mac together and make sure you add the OS 9 drivers to the OS 9 HD before installing, and also remove the two netboot extensions. Theoretically this should give you a bootable OS 9.2.2 System. Here's the link for the Netboot 9.2.2 download if you decide to try it: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243#English I'd try the 9.1 CD again before giving up. Big hassle for firmware upgrading, eh? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
At 2:35 PM -0700 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 2, 6:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the G5, the Seagate 1 TB SATA drive was $160 at Frys a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if it will go there again soon, but it has certainly been at $170 (169.99) pretty regularly, so do not buy it at $199 or $249, which is where the regular price seems to be. Speak of the devil... The 1 TB SATA Seagate is $159 with free shipping at Frys again. The 500 GB SATA drive is $79 with free shipping. Unfortunately, the PATA drives are not similarly reduced-- usually they are priced the same as the SATA drives. There is no 1 TB PATA drive, but there is a 500 GB PATA, however it is still $110. Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. Then I can buy the newer drives which will still work in a G5 or Mac Pro when I finally do upgrade. Certainly can't beat those prices!!! Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
SATA drives are being actively developed, so improvements like the 32 MB cache are available on SATA before they appear on PATA drives. I have one with the new large cache and it performs very well. I'm using a SeriTek/1V4 which boots 3 SATA RAID 0 drives in my G5/Leopard. It is well-supported, with firmware and drivers available for G5s, G4s (both 10.4 and 10.5) and Windows. http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1v4/ On Sep 4, 7:29 am, diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:35 PM -0700 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 2, 6:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the G5, the Seagate 1 TB SATA drive was $160 at Frys a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if it will go there again soon, but it has certainly been at $170 (169.99) pretty regularly, so do not buy it at $199 or $249, which is where the regular price seems to be. Speak of the devil... The 1 TB SATA Seagate is $159 with free shipping at Frys again. The 500 GB SATA drive is $79 with free shipping. Unfortunately, the PATA drives are not similarly reduced-- usually they are priced the same as the SATA drives. There is no 1 TB PATA drive, but there is a 500 GB PATA, however it is still $110. Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. Then I can buy the newer drives which will still work in a G5 or Mac Pro when I finally do upgrade. Certainly can't beat those prices!!! Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAM Question
PC3200 are also (generally) backwards-compatible with PC2100, which began to be used on the first G4 MDD model (867MHz). The PC3200 will downclock to PC2100 speed. However, Mac OS X tends to be quite particular about RAM timings, so your mileage may vary. - Tony http://music.download.com/braincellmusic On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:29 AM, BSugarberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Conrad wrote: I will soon be in the market for a G4 (I have a 300 MHz Smurf that is maxxed out on RAM). The RAM in the G4 will HAVE to be more than the Smurf has (thus the question I am about to ask) I have come across 3 sticks of RAM 2 are labeled 256 MB DDR 400 CL3 At the top of the sticker PC3200U-30331-A1 1 is labeled Corsair VS256MB400 Lot 0421014 - 0 What can they be used in? Hello, All 3 sticks are PC-3200 memory. PC-3200 memory was used in early models of the G5. Bruce --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Internet Radio/SATA USB Adaptors
There's a couple of interesting pieces on LEM today; see http://www.lowendmac.com/mail/0809mb/0903.html I cheerily confess to being the author of the internet radio piece, but that's not the reason that i direct you there. Please read and you will see. - Michael B. in Cincinnati --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
At 1:37 PM -0700 9/3/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Dan wrote: It seems like problems with Apple Mail continue... everything from it suddenly quitting to freezing up while displaying certain messages. You re-launch and Mail goes right back to the same freezing or quitting! Mail is one of the most stable apps on my mac. As it should be. But since the last round of updates, I'm seeing more and more people with problems. However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do with the way Mail manages POP accounts. Could be. All our uses are POP3. But one of the more frequent problems is for Mail to go belly up when trying to view an email with lots of HTML in it. That email has already been downloaded; no POP3 actions occurring. Since tossing the prefs file often fixes this, I'm thinking the problem isn't the installed webkit... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
At 11:07 AM -0700 9/4/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Dan wrote: However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do with the way Mail manages POP accounts. Could be. All our uses are POP3. But one of the more frequent problems is for Mail to go belly up when trying to view an email with lots of HTML in it. That email has already been downloaded; no POP3 actions occurring. Since tossing the prefs file often fixes this, I'm thinking the problem isn't the installed webkit... Ugh. that's why I have mine set to default to plain text. I think people sending HTML mail should be drug out and shot. Are the problematic html mails referencing Flash crap? They don't seem to be. Or (dog forbid) they're getting MS Wordified HTML-like-cheese-food- stuff? *shudder* Have you tried doing a file comparison of a broken and working prefs file? No, but I'll do that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
What is the exact HD partition limit?
Okay, per our recent chat about the 128 GB limit, I need to repartition my second HD at exactly 137,072 MB - or 128 GB. Right now, the DU window shows three partitions of 27.88, 99.88, and 104.76 GB from a HD that is specified by this selfsame application as 232.9 GB, or 250,059.350016 MB. If I add the three partitions together, that gives me 232.52 GB, which is different than the 252.9 GB that Disk Utility gives me for a total. Is the difference the disk image? How do I compensate for that? Is it possible to hit the nail exactly on the head? Thanks yet again! - Michael B. in Cincinnati --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:29 AM, diane wrote: Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. I would go with PCI-E, more particularly the Silicon Image 3132 chip set. These are even available for laptops (-34 size) and work great. The 3132 chip set supports port multipliers, and MacOS drivers are available for all current versions. Drivers are available for Linux and that other operating system, too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the exact HD partition limit?
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Michael B. in Cincinnati wrote: Is it possible to hit the nail exactly on the head? It is when initially initializing the drive. Simply select two partitions, and make the size of the first partition 131,072 MB, then lock that partition. Let the second partition be what it is, then lock that partition, too. Now, selectively unlock one partition at a time, and split it as your needs require, locking them again. Finally, when all partitions have been laid out, click partition. The results will not add up as there is overhead in each partition, and the split ones, too. Which is why you initially start off with a 131,072 MB partition which has been locked so it cannot be resized. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Partition Size Limit
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Michael B. in Cincinnati wrote: I need to repartition the drive at 128 GB, which translates to 137,016 MB. 128 * 1024 = 131,072. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Partition Size Limit
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Michael B. in Cincinnati wrote: I need to repartition the drive at 128 GB, which translates to 137,016 MB. 128 * 1024 = 131,072. Exactly. Some things to understand, is that: 1GB = 1028MB, and not 1000 MB, and that when a disk is formatted, you lose space due to maintenance / indexing / allocation needs of the system ... maybe even bad sectors being mapped out. Perhaps people said that already ... I don't use these factoids enough to remember them from time to time ... Bill Connelly Musician and Painter artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/ myspace.com: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
At 12:46 PM -0700 9/4/08, Peter wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:29 AM, diane wrote: Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. I would go with PCI-E, more particularly the Silicon Image 3132 chip set. I can't do that in a G4 FW800 though, can I? Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Solid State Laptop Drives
Hi I was looking on eBay and stumbled across solid state laptop hard drives. How much difference would they make to a laptops speed? Can they be fitted to any laptop or are they only SATA? I couldn't find any IDE ones. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:13 PM, diane wrote: I would go with PCI-E, more particularly the Silicon Image 3132 chip set. I can't do that in a G4 FW800 though, can I? For those who are stuck with PCI (not PCI-E) there is the Sil 3512 chipset PCI card. I have no experience with it, but the PCI-E 3132 has been great, and if the 3512 is just good, that would be fine with me. The Initio-based PCI cards have been OK on G4s, but I know they won't work on Intel Macs with PCI slots. The Initio-based cards are 1.5 MB/s; the Si I-based cards are 3.0 MB/s. The drives will automatically negotiate the speed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 3, 11:20 pm, diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. Then I can buy the newer drives which will still work in a G5 or Mac Pro when I finally do upgrade. Spending extra money to future-proof your purchase is almost never worth it in the context of computer equipment. Just buy what you need now at the best price you can find, unless you already have solid plans to upgrade, in which case, you should be considering skipping the purchase of hte outmoded stuff. Also, SATA to PATA adapters are available for less than $15, so if you really want to take your drive with you to a newer machine you can use such an adapter--theoretically. They were less than $8 at geeks.com but they seem to be out of them now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:13 PM, diane wrote: I would go with PCI-E, more particularly the Silicon Image 3132 chip set. I can't do that in a G4 FW800 though, can I? For those who are stuck with PCI (not PCI-E) there is the Sil 3512 chipset PCI card. I have no experience with it, but the PCI-E 3132 has been great, and if the 3512 is just good, that would be fine with me. The Initio-based PCI cards have been OK on G4s, but I know they won't work on Intel Macs with PCI slots. The Initio-based cards are 1.5 MB/s; the Si I-based cards are 3.0 MB/s. The drives will automatically negotiate the speed. I purchased the: FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 PCI-X to SATA Controller - 4 Port Internal. (Not for Dual Core G5 systems). 2yr FirmTek Warranty. (FTKSATA1V4) from OWC. The Info on the card says it is backward compatible to older Machines as well as forward to some G5's which is fine with me on my Dual 500Mhz Gigabit G4. It works great for my limited requirements and is movable to whatever I am likely to get in the immediate future. Check it out for suitability at: http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Models.cfm?TI=2314 http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/SATA1V4/ ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Database report writing program
I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the exact HD partition limit?
The problem is, Disk Utility is calibrated in GB, not actual MB. I can tell because the total capacity is given in both GB and bytes, and the difference reflects the numbers shown below. So, do I partition at exactly 128.000 GB, or 137.072 GB in Disk Utility? On Sep 4, 3:42 pm, Michael B. in Cincinnati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, per our recent chat about the 128 GB limit, I need to repartition my second HD at exactly 137,072 MB - or 128 GB. Right now, the DU window shows three partitions of 27.88, 99.88, and 104.76 GB from a HD that is specified by this selfsame application as 232.9 GB, or 250,059.350016 MB. If I add the three partitions together, that gives me 232.52 GB, which is different than the 252.9 GB that Disk Utility gives me for a total. Is the difference the disk image? How do I compensate for that? Is it possible to hit the nail exactly on the head? Thanks yet again! - Michael B. in Cincinnati --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Database report writing program
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Doug Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. Just a message from Doug... versiontracker.com probably has many to choose from. For OS X and Mac OS. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Database report writing program
On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. AppleWorks does this, as does MS Office or NeoOffice. All have mailing label templates built in, and you can define custom labels. NeoOffice http://www.neooffice.org is free. OS X only, though -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the exact HD partition limit?
On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Michael B. in Cincinnati wrote: The problem is, Disk Utility is calibrated in GB, not actual MB. Disk Utility has a selection to change from GB to MB. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Partition Size Limit
On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:09 PM -0700 9/4/2008, insightinmind wrote: 1GB = 1028MB, and not 1000 MB, The factor is 1024, not 1028. It's binary (base 2) math converted to decimal (base 10) for our eyes. 1 TB = 1,024 GB 1 GB = 1,024 MB 1 MB = 1,024 KB 1 KB = 1,024 Bytes. Unless you have cataracts forming ... then it looks the same ... well, sometimes ... ;) Thanks, Bill Connelly Musician and Painter artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/ myspace.com: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Database report writing program
On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. AppleWorks does this, as does MS Office or NeoOffice. All have mailing label templates built in, and you can define custom labels. NeoOffice http://www.neooffice.org is free. OS X only, though -- Bruce Johnson I have all those programs, but only use them for word processing. I'm currently using NeoOffice in word processing mode to create the labels. How hard is it to create a template that can be used to merge the data? I need to be able to insert addresses into the current status quo, would it be easier to use Excel or Appleworks database for this function? That's my problem using just a word processor, if I insert a new address I have to completely alter everything that comes after the new address! Thanks Bruce Adrian, I looked at version tracker and have found a few interesting programs there. Trouble is, without access to them I don't really know if they will do what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
