Re: No Digest Last Night
On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:04 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 2 == Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 9:15 am From: Al Poulin I see lots of new traffic on the group's web site, but where is the digest? I received the g-books, but not the g3-5-list. Saturday night's digest finally arrived. The long header shows one 17 hour delay in transit. Sunday night's digest arrived within the minute of being sent. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Memory slot location
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, hillhippy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to replace the optical drive in my sister in laws iMac G4 1.25Ghz 17. While I've got it taken apart I want to max out the RAM and upgrade the hard drive. The problem is the machine has two DIMM slots one under the base plate and one on the mother board. They each use different memory form factors SO-DIMM and SDRAM. The slots are numbered DIMM 0-J22 and DIMM 1-J20, But there is no information that I can find about which jack is which (even Apples service source fails to list the jack numbers). I need this information to buy the correct memory prior to taking the machine apart (which I only want to do once). I'm sure that I have missed something obvious. The slot on the motherboard uses standard desktop PC2700 DDR RAM with a maximum size of 1GB. Here's a good price, especially for Crucial stick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145086 The user-accessible slot underneath the bottom plate uses PC2700 SODIMM Laptop memory, also with a maximum size of 1GB, so you can max the memory at 2GB. Here's another good price, also for a Crucial stick. Free shipping on both, too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145068 HTH Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 27, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I'm happy to report that the Geeks USB/ATA cable was successfully used to repair the original 40 Gb drive from the server. I put an extra HD tray I had laying around in a spare 5.25 external case I bought some time ago from Surplus Computer. The case has it's own PS and I used that plus the Geeks USB cable to connect to the USB port of my MDD. That means it's the power brick from the USB cable kit that's bad. Geeks does have a good return policy, you should be able to swap it out. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No Digest Last Night
On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Saturday night's digest finally arrived. The long header shows one 17 hour delay in transit. Sunday night's digest arrived within the minute of being sent. In non-digest form, I'm seeing replies to subjects that I've never received the original posting. Something is amiss. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Current Status MDDs / Security Update 2008-006
Did an install to an empty partition, of OSX.4.x, upgraded to 4.11, and thru Sec Upd 2008-005. This installation does NOT exhibit the 'Error Message' on Network Screen problem. So using Migration Assistant, moved EVERYTHING, for the MDD dual 1.25, and the MDD dual 1.0 to separate accounts -- which now do not exhibit the 'Error Message on Network Screen problem' --- So that cures the problem, right! Not quite. Using the account based on the MDD 1.0 --- Mail works OK Mozilla works Firefox works Webkit -- can't find Internet connection. Safari -- can't find Internet connection. Using account based on MDD 1.25 Same symptoms Using new (install) account Mail needs setup otherwise, same symptoms. Grrr ;-( Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Keyboard skins for original USB iMac KB
Hi Listers! I'm LEM and Googled out on this, so I'm hoping some of you can help. I'm looking for skins/protectors for about half a dozen original USB keyboards that shipped with the iMac G3s back in the day (model M2452). I've found resources for the Apple Pro USB KB (M7083), and certainly many for the current line of aluminum KBs, but nothing for the original. Any ideas? - Allison P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAMDAC Video Card
On Sep 28, 4:22 pm, diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Ramdac 100 video card in my stash. I can't find much info on it but what I did find says PM 7100 or Quadra. This would be a nubus card then, correct? It visually looks PCI to me but without a PCI card to compare it too, I could easily be wrong. It also says BT9055 on it. If it also has four SIMM sockets on it then it is a PDS High Performance Video (HPV) card for the PowerMac 6100, 7100 and 8100. It will also work in the Power Computing Power 80/100/120 and the Radius 81/110 and the Apple PowerMac 9150. In all cases it installs in the PDS slot. There were two versions (three if you count Power Computing's version). One has 1 MB of VRAM on board and is expandable to 2 MB by installing four 256KB VRAM SIMMs in the sockets. The second has 2 MB of VRAM on board and is expandable to 4 MB by installing four 512KB VRAM SIMMs in the sockets. The Power Computing version has both a Mac DB15 video connector and a VGA HD15 video connector and a small switch on the board used to select which output is being used. AFAICT, all of the Power Computing HPV cards are the 2/4 MB version. Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD startup problem and solution, and a question.
On Sep 28, 8:03 am, Aaron wrote: And how do you measure the amperage of a battery? If you have a DVM with a milli-amp capability that is greater than that which you expect is being drawn from the battery, you might try hooking it up in series with the battery circuit. Put a jumper across the meter leads before you connect it to the battery. This will protect it from any potential surge which might be greater than the DVM can tolerate. Remove the jumper once the rest of the circuit is established. Might work...not responsible for damage...blah, blah, blah. -- T.T. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Keyboard skins for original USB iMac KB
On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:16 AM, GrammarGeek wrote: I'm LEM and Googled out on this, so I'm hoping some of you can help. I'm looking for skins/protectors for about half a dozen original USB keyboards that shipped with the iMac G3s back in the day (model M2452). I've found resources for the Apple Pro USB KB (M7083), and certainly many for the current line of aluminum KBs, but nothing for the original. Are you looking for these keyboard covers? http://www.compucover.com/new_index.cfm?do=DCMSearch --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Keyboard skins for original USB iMac KB
On Sep 29, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:16 AM, GrammarGeek wrote: I'm LEM and Googled out on this, so I'm hoping some of you can help. I'm looking for skins/protectors for about half a dozen original USB keyboards that shipped with the iMac G3s back in the day (model M2452). I've found resources for the Apple Pro USB KB (M7083), and certainly many for the current line of aluminum KBs, but nothing for the original. Are you looking for these keyboard covers? http://www.compucover.com/new_index.cfm?do=DCMSearch I HATE web sites that do not let you deep link off of a search like the above. Go to: http://www.compucover.com/KS_Info.html and about 1/3 the way down, it says enter a model number. Enter M2452 and it will take you to the page. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem since Security Update 2008-0006PPC
Greetings all, I am experiencing exactly the same thing as Chuck on my G4 1.5 GHz laptop i.e. the 'Network Settings have been changed by another Application' on the network box, and the same problem when trying to close it. I see nothing strange in the start up items. Could this be a bug from the security update? BTW I believed I followed the correct sequence of security updates. Peter On 27 Sep 2008, at 19:59, Charles Davis wrote: On Sep 27, 2008, at 1:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 27, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Charles Davis wrote: Yesterday, I did a clean install of 10.4.? onto a spare partition, upgraded to 10.4.11, used Migration Assistant to move user files accounts to the 'NEW' system, ran updates to get current. Problem still there. That isolates the problem to your user stuff. Look in your startup items. How so? Charles said he reinstalled everything. I take that to mean he also re-ran Security Update 2008-0006PPC. Maybe he should have tried 0005 first. -- T.T. Hi Tom; I used 'Software Update' to get a list of what was needed to 'get to current'. Using 'Previously downloaded copies' , I ran everything that SU had listed as needed. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem since Security Update 2008-0006PPC
At 9:33 PM +0200 9/29/08, Peter Mc Court posted: Greetings all, I am experiencing exactly the same thing as Chuck on my G4 1.5 GHz laptop i.e. the 'Network Settings have been changed by another Application' on the network box, and the same problem when trying to close it. I see nothing strange in the start up items. Could this be a bug from the security update? BTW I believed I followed the correct sequence of security updates. If you are connected on a LAN and have previously set your Network preferences to DHCP with manual IP to pull the same IP address from the router, try changing to DHCP then changing your router setting to allow the MAC address of the laptop to always be a specific IP. That fixed the exact same problem that I was having. The security update changed settings, without asking. Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Address Book and iCal stuff AWOL after upgrade to Leopard.
At 8:47 PM +0200 9/28/2008, Brian Durant wrote: I just upgraded from Tiger to Leopard using upgrade and install. Unfortunately, I had to move the bits and pieces I needed by hand from my previous system folder to my current system by hand. Despite having copied the relevant folders, my contacts and iCal events do not appear. Check the owner and permissions on the files you moved. You might need to adjust them. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Tower Wireless
On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Simon Royal wrote: If I am lucky it is one of the AGP 'Sawtooth' models with Airport slot and I can add my Airport card in. If not, if it is the original PCI 'Yikes' version and I don't have that luxury I need to look for USB or PCI alternatives. Does anyone know of any PC branded broadcom based PCI cards that work in a Mac, other than the Belkin F5D7001? I have searched Google and can't find anything else. Although the slot's connector is the same as a generic PCMCIA/CardBus connector, it is intended only for a gen-u-wine Airport card. The antenna for same is built into the case. The cheapest, best bet is a USB wireless. About $6, when on sale. Look for AirLink101 ... both the AWLL-3026 (ZyDas/Atheros) and the AWLL-3028 (RaLink) have both 10.3 and 10.4 drivers, and both companies' 10.4 drivers work on 10.5 just fine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Buy/Sell lists?
I rejoined the LEM Swaplist which I fell off of when it migrated to Google to sell a few things. Somewhere along the lines they now require a full name and city/state when posting to the list. I listed my zip code which is what I used to do, but my message was rejected since I did not follow the rules. Are there any other lists that are maybe a little more private? I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. And yes, I am full aware there are many other ways to find my full name and address, and that there have been for many many years. Thanks, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Memory slot location
On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:53 AM, hillhippy wrote: I'm going to replace the optical drive in my sister in laws iMac G4 1.25Ghz 17. While I've got it taken apart I want to max out the RAM and upgrade the hard drive. The problem is the machine has two DIMM slots one under the base plate and one on the mother board. They each use different memory form factors SO-DIMM and SDRAM. The slots are numbered DIMM 0-J22 and DIMM 1-J20, But there is no information that I can find about which jack is which (even Apples service source fails to list the jack numbers). I need this information to buy the correct memory prior to taking the machine apart (which I only want to do once). I'm sure that I have missed something obvious. Thanks for your help I have the very same 17 G4 1.25 GHz iMac. J20 is the SDRAM slot on the top side of the logic board. Replacing this requires that you remove the 4 T15 screws that hold the bottom to the top part of the case. (Don't forget to use new thermal paste and to tighten these 4 screws to 17 inch pounds when you reassemble the case.) J22 is the user-accessible SO-DIMM slot that requires only that you loosen the four captive Phillips head screws and remove the bottom plate. HTH. Jim Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On 9/29/08, diane wrote: I rejoined the LEM Swaplist Somewhere along the lines they now require a full name and city/state when posting to the list I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. Give a phony name and street address. If someone expresses interest, you can straighten it out with them at that time. Half the sellers are doing it this way. The reason the stupid rule came into being was so that persons could decide if the seller and buyer were geographically near. A ZIP code was all that was ever necessary but administrative pride got in the way of good sense. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
At 6:50 PM -0400 9/29/2008, diane wrote: Are there any other lists that are maybe a little more private? I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. 3000? You're off by several magnitudes. Google Groups postings are full indexed by Google. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Give a phony name and street address. If someone expresses interest, you can straighten it out with them at that time. Half the sellers are doing it this way. Speaking as a Swaplist nanny, this is a bad idea. The reason the stupid rule came into being was so that persons could decide if the seller and buyer were geographically near. A ZIP code was all that was ever necessary but administrative pride got in the way of good sense. This is not the reason for the rule. I would also like to clarify that the Swaplist rules only ask for your name and city/state/zip in public postings. There is no need to post your street address to the list. Here's the mini-FAQ with relevant rules: http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap/browse_thread/thread/1853a96bfcd7d3f9# These rules are for the protection of all swappers. If anyone wants to discuss these rules further the place to do it would be the LEMlists group, not here. Beverly Swaplist nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
