Re: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk?
On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk? YES --- use separate partitions! Some programs do not have newer versions, so to run them you need to run older 10.2 just like we did for 8 and 9 long ago. But with 8 and 9, the demands were less stringent than those of 10.*. Do all 10s require you to be in the first 4GB of the disk? NO [I think it's a 'hardware dependent' sort of thing. I.E older G3 G4 systems primarily. BUT --- You won't have both systems working at the same time. You will boot one (of the available systems), but can open applications on any of the 'OSX' partitions. HTH Chuck D. How could you then have both 10s working? What does 10.4 require? JML --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:35 AM, joplinfan wrote: The HD verifies fine in Disk Utility... but it is noisy and overall just seems to run sluggish and slow. I'll replace it tomorrow and see what happens. Noisy and sluggish ... could imply what others suspect ... disk going bad. One of mine did that ... I believe it was trying to re-read / write things and sounded squeeky ... icons disappeared, and re- appeared ... partitions wouldn't open ... then they would ... then nothing ... Don't wait to replace it ... backup what you need ... if you're lucky, you can save things. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
Iain. I have been trying to get hold of you for ages. Email me your address off list, I still owe you for the Lombard power adapter. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4 From: Iain Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/11/2008 11:01 I can't help with much about this but all I can say is I doubt it's down to the video card I had an ATI Rage 128 Pro running 10.4 for years and it worked well, but obviously it's an outdated card. I've even got one running XP now and it plays plenty of games perfectly happily The one piece of advice I CAN give is to upgrade the card (even if not related to this) get Quartz Extreme running :) best regards Iain Thornton --- On Sun, 9/11/08, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4 To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 4:37 AM Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during startup, and no response when clicking Shutdown and Restart via the menu. Usually if I use Force Quit and restart Finder, the icons will appear and things will work fine for awhile, but will eventually disappear again. I've tried all of the simple things including a new PRAM battery, reinstall the OS, rewrite the HD with zeros before reinstall, etc... but no success. I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. Any ideas? Thanks. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adobe Products only on G5?
On Nov 9, 12:18 am, hillhippy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne is talking about the minimum requirements for Adobe's new CS4. Follow this link to the system requirements page: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/designstandard/systemreqs... Graphic programs allows demand the newest, biggest machines. Anne's Intel iMac is still good enough. It exceeds both the minimum and recommended requirements. Not everyone needs the greatest, souped up MacPro that money can buy. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk?
On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk? YES --- use separate partitions! That's how you do it. Some programs do not have newer versions, so to run them you need to run older 10.2 Not necessarily. Most programs that run in 10.2 will work in 10.4 unless they're specific 10.2 utilities and the like. What specific programs have you run into like that? just like we did for 8 and 9 long ago. But with 8 and 9, the demands were less stringent than those of 10.*. Do all 10s require you to be in the first 4GB of the disk? NO [I think it's a 'hardware dependent' sort of thing. I.E older G3 G4 systems primarily. NO system ever required OS X to be in the first 4 GB of a disk. Beige G3's, the Wallstreet Powerbook G3, and the first-gen iMacs, AND ONLY THOSE SYSTEMS required OSX (version 10.1 and 10.2) to be installed in a maximum 8 Gb boot volume, which had to be the first partition on the boot device. How could you then have both 10s working? You can't, barring running it in a virtual machine, which can be done in a limited fashion on Intel Macs ( see a recent MacOSX Hints item on doing this) What does 10.4 require? Official requirements for OS X 10.4 are here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514 Note this is official requirements; the installer will run and Apple will support OS X on these systems. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cloning
To recap the storage requirement, our needs are modest, no massive photo or video files. Our most valuable data is in genealogy and narrative files which do not take much space. The iMac is holding about 40 GB on the hard drive; the other machines, less. On Nov 8, 11:13 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:03 AM -0800 11/8/2008, Al wrote: On Nov 7, 11:11 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nature of the backup is such that you need lower level access than AFP provides. CCC supports this by creating an encrypted tunnel between the two Macs then running on each. I haven't tested it yet but am planning to. Check the CCC docs for details. (This is what Bill is talking about re Credentials in his reply). That means the thing CCC creates on the NAS volume is NOT bootable. It is a virtual disk image file (dmg) that can be used at a later time to create a bootable volume. This is because to access the volume on the NAS, CCC must use AFP - which brings us back to the original AFP problem. So, these two, separate replies mean that I may be able to do everything I want with CCC going to one FireWire or bootable USB-2 external drive. That is: (1) Set up a partition for each of four Macs with ethernet to make bootable clones of all internal hard drives, taking entire contents. (2) Set up space(s) for the Users folder of each internal hard drive to take incremental, maybe daily, backups. A question here is whether I need four more partitions, or can I use one partition with four distinct target folders, one folder for each Mac? (3) One more partition to play with Time Machine until Apple fixes its problems, and maybe I would replace the use of CCC in #(2) above. What other backups would I need? Well, it's always a good idea to have multiple backups. What happens if you have a failure WHILE you're running the backup? At that point, you can end up with NO backup! We can continue making CDs and DVDs of Users folders to store at my son's house. If the above makes sense, going further into dreamland, I could get a dual-drive system set up in RAID 1. One example: at Other World Computing which works with FW and USB-2. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/usb/raid_1/Gmax Another example is the more expensive Drobo, which has more industrial weight expansion, including the gigabit NAS option with DroboShare that I could play with later. I don't think I need to use WiFi. Why bother with that if the above thinking works? Lastly, is there any reason to consider SuperDuper instead of CCC? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk? YES --- use separate partitions! Do all 10s require you to be in the first 4GB of the disk? NO [I think it's a 'hardware dependent' sort of thing. I.E older G3 G4 systems primarily. NO system ever required OS X to be in the first 4 GB of a disk. Beige G3's, the Wallstreet Powerbook G3, and the first-gen iMacs, AND ONLY THOSE SYSTEMS required OSX (version 10.1 and 10.2) to be installed in a maximum 8 Gb boot volume, which had to be the first partition on the boot device. The specific requirement is that the boot volume (and thus it's partition) must be completely in the first 8Gb. That's actually the requirement of the installer. The real hardware limitation is that files used in the boot process up to some point must be within the first 8Gb. Basically the boot firmware doesn't know how to access files beyond 8Gb. You could build a system on a disk partition larger than 8Gb using a different computer and then boot it on one of the above machines. But if any critical file got moved above 8Gb it won't boot. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Tiger 10.4 or 10.4.9?
Hi ~ This note is for the parents. They are going to upgrade their iMac 800mHz to Tiger they think. Their local place sez to get it on Amazon. I am looking there and one question is the What Version - the main version or the update or both? I am going to call the local place to see what they want. One of the combo versions said it would work even on updating from OS 9 (??? doesn't make sense). Also got cross-eyed because the results that came up for OS 10.4 Tiger were for Leopard and I was scrolling thru those for awhile until I realized. I am on chemo so my thought process isn't on top at the moment!!! Will also call Apple tomorrow which is what the Apple Store told me to do to get it. Also on Amazon they are running $300 to buy it - what is this all about? Does anyone want to sell me one for about $110.00? (many pardons to nice John Callahan about the OS 10.3). Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS X 10.2.8 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk?
On Nov 9, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 9:48 AM Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Can you have both 10.2 AND 10.4 on same disk? YES --- use separate partitions! Do all 10s require you to be in the first 4GB of the disk? NO [I think it's a 'hardware dependent' sort of thing. I.E older G3 G4 systems primarily. NO system ever required OS X to be in the first 4 GB of a disk. ### NOTE BELOW SECTION ### Beige G3's, the Wallstreet Powerbook G3, and the first-gen iMacs, AND ONLY THOSE SYSTEMS required OSX (version 10.1 and 10.2) to be installed in a maximum 8 Gb boot volume, which had to be the first partition on the boot device. ## NOTE ABOVE The specific requirement is that the boot volume (and thus it's partition) must be completely in the first 8Gb. That's actually the requirement of the installer. The real hardware limitation is that files used in the boot process up to some point must be within the first 8Gb. Basically the boot firmware doesn't know how to access files beyond 8Gb. You could build a system on a disk partition larger than 8Gb using a different computer and then boot it on one of the above machines. But if any critical file got moved above 8Gb it won't boot. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I am confused: I have 10.2 on 7.93Gb, which is under 8, yet it works. It is the first partition on a 7.93 + 10.71 = 18GB HD I have OS 9 on the 10,71, which by the way is 8.81GB available, so the question is can I install 10.4 on the 8.81 partition? That answer is noted above --- please read the responses. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tiger 10.4 or 10.4.9?
- Original Message From: Anne Keller-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 2:10:26 PM Subject: Tiger 10.4 or 10.4.9? Hi ~ This note is for the parents. They are going to upgrade their iMac 800mHz to Tiger they think. Their local place sez to get it on Amazon. I am looking there and one question is the What Version - the main version or the update or both? Any retail version of Tiger can be updated to the latest version 10.4.11 by downloading the free combo update from the Apple download site. And you should be able to pick up a version of Tiger from the LEM Swap list or ebay for much, less. I got a version of Tiger from the LEM Swap list for $30.00 a while back. Just post a wanted to buy to the swap list and see what turns up. Also got cross-eyed because the results that came up for OS 10.4 Tiger were for Leopard and I was scrolling thru those for awhile until I realized. I am on chemo so my thought process isn't on top at the moment!!! Hang in there, my partner had chemo treatments (and much more) in 2006, now she is in complete remission and cancer free!! --glen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:02 PM, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update... Problem was definitely a bad HD. Disk Utility kept saying the previous drive was fine, but a different drive took care of the problem. Been running the BW for a few hours without issue. Steve , glad you got it fixed. Hope all data was recovered. Thanks for letting us know. Adrian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Leopard On eMac
Go for it, 2 GB of RAM would do it, I also have an eMac with Leopord on it, When I put a 2GB RAM Stick in it, it's very responsive, but with the 2nd 2GB RAM Sticks, it screams. Simon Hello, Are there different eMacs? Mine tops out at 1GB, but some people are talking about 2Gb and 4GB. I/d like to put another GB in if I thought I would take it. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hot iMac
To find the fans, look for venting slots and feel for a breeze emerging from them. Maybe there's no fan; Steve Jobs loves silent, fanless Macs. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I Wanna Crack A Lacie FW CDRW Case
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Re: Tiger 10.4 or 10.4.9?
On Nov 9, 7:57 pm, glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any retail version of Tiger can be updated to the latest version 10.4.11 by downloading the free combo update from the Apple download site. The retail versions come on black disks. Beware of buying used Tiger disks which are grey in color and which are model specific. If you find a grey set, make sure it is for your parent's specific model iMac. Also, some of the very earliest versions of the iMac G4 800 MHz had a CD-RW optical drive which cannot read the Tiger DVD disks. Very few Tiger media are on CDs. Please match up your parent's model with the profiles at: http://www.lowendmac.com/imacs/index.shtml Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adobe Products only on G5?
At 9:24 PM -0500 11/9/08, Al Poulin wrote: A G4 does not meet the requirements for CS4 which requires a G5 or Intel machine. Sorry I missed that part of your original post. You didn't miss it, it only said CS (unless I completely missed it as well) Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Admin password and name
On Nov 9, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Norman Rowe wrote: First off I have never had linux. I have OS 10.5.5 on 2 HD drives. The backup seems to be fine. The main one keeps asking for an admisitrator name and password, does not like any I have tried. The backup system pref is set to admin but the main is set to standard. I have tried to change that but does not work. Should use Disk Utility to restore from the back up, time mchine to go back to last one in July or just erase and reinstall? None of the above. Boot your 10.5 Leopard DVD and from the Utilities menu select Reset Password and then select the correct HD and reset the password. This will reset the admin user password for everything except the login keychain. You'll need to know the old password to reset the login keychain, and if you don't know it, simply delete the entire login keychain and the new one will use the new password you just set using the DVD. If you don't have the installation DVD, you can try this instead: http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Have I waited long enough to move up to Leopard?
The subject line pretty much says it all. I've never been an early adopter, and I've held off going beyond Tiger 10.4.11 on my MDD Dual (2x867) G4 until now mainly because it's been stable and I (mistakenly) thought I wanted to hold onto Classic. The G4 dual-boots, so any need for OS9 -- which is minimal these days -- can be met by booting directly into it. Or by accessing it on the Panther machine I have: a Power Computing clone with G4 card running XPostFacto. I routinely share files between the two machines, as well as my wife's new iMac, which runs Leopard. And I like a lot of what I've seen in Leopard, especially the simplicity of Time Machine, to say nothing of several apps and utilities I regularly use being upgraded to Leopard- only status, Plus the allure of being as up-to-date as possible, especially given that the current Leopard will probably be the last version of OSX that will run on my PPC machine. So, given all that setup, have I waited long enough? Is Leopard stable enough and reliable enough and speedy enough for my MDD Dual G4? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Hot iMac
Is the new iMac supposed to run so hot? And where do they put the fans in there anyway? They're sure quite though. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS X 10.2.8 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On eMac
Hi. What eMac do you have. I thought all DDR eMacs maxxed out at 2x1GB sticks. You said you had 2GB and then added another 2GB, but I didnt think any G4 could take 4GB RAM. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Leopard On eMac From: Mullin9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/11/2008 00:24 On Nov 9, 3:44 pm, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have been running Leopard on my eMac G4 1.25Ghz with 1GB of RAM for a few days now. I must say I am very impressed with the performance. I think it actually runs better than my Intel iMac 1.83Ghz Core Duo did. I didn't see good performance on it until I upped the iMac to 2GB RAM. So for anyone thinking of running Leopard on a G4, I would say go for it. I did have it on the eMac with 512MB RAM and it chugged a little, but the 1GB made a lot of difference. This eMac maxxes at 2GB and now I am seriously thinking of upping it (at some point). It seems the older the Mac the more benefit of whacking loads of RAM in it is. Go for it, 2 GB of RAM would do it, I also have an eMac with Leopord on it, When I put a 2GB RAM Stick in it, it's very responsive, but with the 2nd 2GB RAM Sticks, it screams. Simon ---http://www.simonroyal.co.uk- Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... -http://www.nmug.org.uk- webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On eMac
On Nov 9, 3:44 pm, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have been running Leopard on my eMac G4 1.25Ghz with 1GB of RAM for a few days now. I must say I am very impressed with the performance. I think it actually runs better than my Intel iMac 1.83Ghz Core Duo did. I didn't see good performance on it until I upped the iMac to 2GB RAM. So for anyone thinking of running Leopard on a G4, I would say go for it. I did have it on the eMac with 512MB RAM and it chugged a little, but the 1GB made a lot of difference. This eMac maxxes at 2GB and now I am seriously thinking of upping it (at some point). It seems the older the Mac the more benefit of whacking loads of RAM in it is. Go for it, 2 GB of RAM would do it, I also have an eMac with Leopord on it, When I put a 2GB RAM Stick in it, it's very responsive, but with the 2nd 2GB RAM Sticks, it screams. Simon ---http://www.simonroyal.co.uk- Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... -http://www.nmug.org.uk- webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adobe Products only on G5?
Will CS4 actually test for the processor? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard On eMac
Hi I have been running Leopard on my eMac G4 1.25Ghz with 1GB of RAM for a few days now. I must say I am very impressed with the performance. I think it actually runs better than my Intel iMac 1.83Ghz Core Duo did. I didn't see good performance on it until I upped the iMac to 2GB RAM. So for anyone thinking of running Leopard on a G4, I would say go for it. I did have it on the eMac with 512MB RAM and it chugged a little, but the 1GB made a lot of difference. This eMac maxxes at 2GB and now I am seriously thinking of upping it (at some point). It seems the older the Mac the more benefit of whacking loads of RAM in it is. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Admin password and name
First off I have never had linux. I have OS 10.5.5 on 2 HD drives. The backup seems to be fine. The main one keeps asking for an admisitrator name and password, does not like any I have tried. The backup system pref is set to admin but the main is set to standard. I have tried to change that but does not work. Should use dick utility to restore from the back up, time mchine to go back to last one in July or just erase and reinstall? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cloning
On Nov 9, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Al wrote: To recap the storage requirement, our needs are modest, no massive photo or video files. Our most valuable data is in genealogy and narrative files which do not take much space. The iMac is holding about 40 GB on the hard drive; the other machines, less. On Nov 8, 11:13 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:03 AM -0800 11/8/2008, Al wrote: On Nov 7, 11:11 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nature of the backup is such that you need lower level access than AFP provides. CCC supports this by creating an encrypted tunnel between the two Macs then running on each. I haven't tested it yet but am planning to. Check the CCC docs for details. (This is what Bill is talking about re Credentials in his reply). That means the thing CCC creates on the NAS volume is NOT bootable. It is a virtual disk image file (dmg) that can be used at a later time to create a bootable volume. This is because to access the volume on the NAS, CCC must use AFP - which brings us back to the original AFP problem. So, these two, separate replies mean that I may be able to do everything I want with CCC going to one FireWire or bootable USB-2 external drive. That is: (1) Set up a partition for each of four Macs with ethernet to make bootable clones of all internal hard drives, taking entire contents. (2) Set up space(s) for the Users folder of each internal hard drive to take incremental, maybe daily, backups. A question here is whether I need four more partitions, or can I use one partition with four distinct target folders, one folder for each Mac? I'm certain that individual partitions for each system will work. Can't see any advantage in trying the 'all in one partition' method. JMHO (3) One more partition to play with Time Machine until Apple fixes its problems, and maybe I would replace the use of CCC in #(2) above. Probably O.K. BUT Time Machine IS NOT A BACKUP STRATEGY. Its useful in day to day recovery of semi-current 'missing data' BACKUPS need to be completely separable from the 'in use' system, and capable of being archived (stored) Off-Site, to be usable AS BACKUPs. [Backup being the necessary information to 'get back to a usable operation' in case of DISASTER.] What other backups would I need? Well, it's always a good idea to have multiple backups. My recommendation has always been at least 3 sets of 'backup media (floppies, tape cartridges, external hard disks, etc.)' Rotating the sets each time you do a Backup. [Reason being Disaster happens. Obtain replacement hardware, restore from most recent BU Bad backup --- diagnose problem, reach for backup #2, --- Still No Joy, (restoration method problems) -- BU damaged. reach for BU #3 --- STOP, at this point, find someone, (friend, Data Service, whatever) to make copies of the 'still untouched BU#3--- Then work with the copy. If you are still not having success, you can get another copy of BU#3, and try another method. Yeah, paranoia does have it's uses at times. What happens if you have a failure WHILE you're running the backup? At that point, you can end up with NO backup! We can continue making CDs and DVDs of Users folders to store at my son's house. Good program --- don't let yourself stop this, just because it isn't all that convenient. If the above makes sense, going further into dreamland, I could get a dual-drive system set up in RAID 1. One example: at Other World Computing which works with FW and USB-2. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/usb/raid_1/Gmax Another example is the more expensive Drobo, which has more industrial weight expansion, including the gigabit NAS option with DroboShare that I could play with later. I don't think I need to use WiFi. Why bother with that if the above thinking works? Lastly, is there any reason to consider SuperDuper instead of CCC? I've been quite happy with SuperDuper! -- That having been said, I think that either SuperDuper! OR CCC will work for you. Chuck D. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
