Re: Terminal tells me I have new mail

2009-02-04 Thread Bill Christensen

At 9:54 AM -0700 2/3/09, Doug McNutt wrote:
At 09:33 -0700 2/3/09, Bruce Johnson wrote:
   Mystery not completely solved

man 5 crontab

and check out the  MAIL= option. You can specify a place to send
messages that might be generated by scheduled processes. It's part of
a wider ability to specify environment variables like PATH for cron
jobs.

My web host running open BSD allows a complete email address - over
the internet - in the MAIL= line but the man page seems to limit it
to the name of a local user . I donno the details about how OS neXt
handles it. I also don't know what happens if you specify MAIL=NULL.
--

Ok, I'm testing it out with a full email address, after having 
cleared the existing stuff in the /var/mail/~user file.  i'll let you 
know if it works.  Or blows up.

Thanks.
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Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread Jeff Bequette
I have a dual 1.8 , G5 June 2004 with 4 ram slots... it lists it max  
ram is 4GB, 1 gig per slot.  I am currently maxed out, but seeing the  
price drops lately, I was wondering if  anyone put in and been able  
to use 2 gig sticks in?

Jeff Bequette
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Re: Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread Ted Treen


From: Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009 3:41:31 PM
Subject: Overstuffing ram slots

I have a dual 1.8 , G5 June 2004 with 4 ram slots... it lists it max ram is 
4GB, 1 gig per slot.  I am currently maxed out, but seeing the price drops 
lately, I was wondering if  anyone put in and been able to use 2 gig sticks in? 


Jeff Bequette
jbeque...@tconl.com


I'd be interested to find out, too.  I've an early 2005 Dual 2.0 G5, also with 
4 slots. Currently maxed with 4GB.

8GB would be cool, if it worked OK.

Ted
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Re: Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread Dennis Myhand

Jeff Bequette wrote:
 I have a dual 1.8 , G5 June 2004 with 4 ram slots... it lists it max ram 
 is 4GB, 1 gig per slot.  I am currently maxed out, but seeing the price 
 drops lately, I was wondering if  anyone put in and been able to use 2 
 gig sticks in? 
 
 Jeff Bequette
 jbeque...@tconl.com mailto:jbeque...@tconl.com
 

Technically...it should only see the maximum amount of RAM it is 
supposed see and nothing should go wrong.  I just recently worked on a 
PC which was supposed to see 4 gigs, and the owner installed 4 gigs, and 
it was only seeing 2.5 gigs.  Come to find out that the four gigs it was 
supposed to see was actually only 3 gigs, if you had a 2 gig stick and a 
1 gig stick installed, or 2.5 gigs if you installed 2, 2 gig sticks like 
the owner did.  But hey!  what's a little false advertising among 
friends?  It should either see the 4 gigs, see more than 4 gigs, or not 
recognize the RAM sticks.  Try overstuffing one slot and let us know 
what happens.  I would be curious to know as well.  Peace, Dennis


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Re: Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread Jeff Bequette

On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:


 Jeff Bequette wrote:
 I have a dual 1.8 , G5 June 2004 with 4 ram slots... it lists it  
 max ram
 is 4GB, 1 gig per slot.  I am currently maxed out, but seeing the  
 price
 drops lately, I was wondering if  anyone put in and been able to  
 use 2
 gig sticks in?

 Jeff Bequette
 jbeque...@tconl.com mailto:jbeque...@tconl.com


 Technically...it should only see the maximum amount of RAM it is
 supposed see and nothing should go wrong.  I just recently worked on a
 PC which was supposed to see 4 gigs, and the owner installed 4  
 gigs, and
 it was only seeing 2.5 gigs.  Come to find out that the four gigs  
 it was
 supposed to see was actually only 3 gigs, if you had a 2 gig stick  
 and a
 1 gig stick installed, or 2.5 gigs if you installed 2, 2 gig sticks  
 like
 the owner did.  But hey!  what's a little false advertising among
 friends?  It should either see the 4 gigs, see more than 4 gigs, or  
 not
 recognize the RAM sticks.  Try overstuffing one slot and let us know
 what happens.  I would be curious to know as well.  Peace, Dennis

like most G5's it goes in pairs, so I'd have to buy 2x2gigs to  
experiment- hence the question before purchase.  its not cheap enough  
for 'experiments!


 
Jeff Bequette
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G4 L2 cache Controller named XLR8 MACh Speed Control 3.4.2 under OS X 10.4.11

2009-02-04 Thread insightinmind

 From another thread contribution, I thought I'd ask more about it in  
a separate thread ...


I have a Yikes! oc'd successfully from 400 to 450 running XLR8 MACh  
Speed Control 3.4.2 as cpu monitor. It gives a cpu speed of 448.0 MHz  
and an L2 cache speed of 224.4 MHz. Mobo memory is 1024MB with a  
speed of 99.7MHz. For my G4 7400 cpu, it also estimates temperature  
(from my chilly Startup Room Temp of 16ªC (60.8ªF) to up and running  
awhile 24 (75.2).

For comparison, here is Xbench 1.3's System Info:

System Info 
Xbench Version  1.3
System Version  10.4.11 (8S165)
Physical RAM1024 MB
Model   PowerMac1,2
Processor   PowerPC G4 @ 449 MHz
Version 7400 (Max) v2.6
L1 Cache32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache1024K @ 225 MHz
Bus Frequency   100 MHz
Video Card  ATY,RV100
Drive Type  ST380021A

and Apple System Profiler's:

Hardware Overview:

   Machine Name:Power Mac G3 (PCI graphics)
   Machine Model:   PowerMac1,2
   CPU Type:PowerPC G4  (2.6)
   Number Of CPUs:  1
   CPU Speed:   450 MHz
   L2 Cache (per CPU):  1 MB
   Memory:  1 GB
   Bus Speed:   100 MHz
   Boot ROM Version:1.1.2f2

Has anyone used XLR8 MACh Speed Control from daystar.com to control  
their upgrade or overclocking? It allegedly tests various L2 cache  
speeds and only uses a successful, maximum speed for it. A possible  
source of hangs if too fast?

I think of it as a safety net ... when oc'ing G4 cpu-s, IMO. Is this  
a good assumption?

When running under Apple's (non-XLR8) assigned cpu/L2 cache speeds,  
the system seems snappier, but the feel bothers me. Sort of makes me  
wonder, when is it going to hang ... (from previous experience on a  
PPC 8500 and cpu upgrades).

Any references about how it works? other info/comments?

Thanks.

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Re: Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread insightinmind
Would OWC folks test the idea for you?

(www.macsales.com)

That's one source of Mac RAM and folks interested in Macs, and  
extending their lives ...


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Re: reverting iTunes

2009-02-04 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:18 PM, D Stubbs wrote:



 For that matter, it may be cheaper to just buy another iPod. 4th and
 5th gen ones go pretty cheaply these days.

 (for that matter, look for a 1st Gen mini, you can put in a CF card
 (which you can get up to 64 gigs nowadays) and go all solid-state.)

 --
 Bruce Johnson

 Now that's an interesting solution, my first page of googling  
 brought up
 this site
 for DIY to most any iPod
 http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/767/put-flash-memory-into-almost-any-ipod#zcr8faa9a2663d96577fb0ceb5ed957da04

This would simplify that process dramatically:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10886

or this one:

http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/adzifcf.asp





 and this one in the UK  to have it done to a 4th gen even
 http://www.ipodrepair.nl/uk/order_flash_uk.html

 When i have more time I will consider this seriously, at least I can  
 give it
 a shot.
 thanks, Del

 

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two ADC displays? how?

2009-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Engle

How would I connect two apple adc displays to one mdd? is it possible?

Jeff Engle
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Re: two ADC displays? how?

2009-02-04 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 How would I connect two apple adc displays to one mdd? is it possible?

If you have multiple outputs on your video card, you need to get an  
adapter for that; Dr. Bott used to sell the VGAtor, and DVIator which  
converted from VGA or DVI respectively to ADC output. They were quite  
expensive, large external boxes that also absconded with a USB port on  
the system.

The simplest solution is to find some sucker^H^H^H^H some worthy soul  
with an ADC port to sell the ADC monitor to and use the money to help  
buy a DVI or VGA monitor.

And if it's a CRT ADC monitor, well, fuggedaboutit...you can't GIVE  
those away...

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Re: Overstuffing ram slots

2009-02-04 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote:

 I have a dual 1.8 , G5 June 2004 with 4 ram slots... it lists it max
 ram is 4GB, 1 gig per slot.  I am currently maxed out, but seeing the
 price drops lately, I was wondering if  anyone put in and been able
 to use 2 gig sticks in?

If you go to someplace that sells Mac RAM, like Data Memory System 
http://www.datamemorysystems.com/ 
  they'll list the maximum amount of RAM you can stick in. They show  
what works, not necessarily what Apple lists as max in their specs,  
although Apple's been better about that in recent years.

IN your case the max is 1GB per slot.

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Re: two ADC displays? how?

2009-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 How would I connect two apple adc displays to one mdd? is it  
 possible?

 If you have multiple outputs on your video card, you need to get an
 adapter for that; Dr. Bott used to sell the VGAtor, and DVIator which
 converted from VGA or DVI respectively to ADC output. They were quite
 expensive, large external boxes that also absconded with a USB port on
 the system.

 The simplest solution is to find some sucker^H^H^H^H some worthy soul
 with an ADC port to sell the ADC monitor to and use the money to help
 buy a DVI or VGA monitor.

 And if it's a CRT ADC monitor, well, fuggedaboutit...you can't GIVE
 those away...



That's what I thought... fortunately for me, I was looking at a  
possible purchase of the adc displays... but not now. Funny thing is  
how they're fetching 350 on feebay for the 23's that are 3-5 years old  
when you can buy a NEW 24 state-of-the-art display for less? go figure.
Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

208-935-0992
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A once in an epoch event!

2009-02-04 Thread Dan

Check it out!

Better than watching your first car's odometer roll over!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/04/unix_timestamp_milestone/

:)

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Re: Seagate HD firmware update

2009-02-04 Thread dorayme

 Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 11:36 am
 From: Kris Tilford

 On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Paul wrote:

 The announcement said Seagate has isolated this issue to a firmware
 bug affecting drives from these families manufactured IN December
 2008. That would seem to narrow the field of eligible drives quite a
 bit.

 No, you misquoted Seagate's announcement.

 It was manufactured THROUGH December 2008, meaning including all
 months prior to December 2008.


through Dec means up to Dec This an American thing? Sure ain't  
Australian or Pommy...

Anyway, if I may, why are so many (not all) of my G3 posts coming  
through with most text underlined? Looks like an anchor closing tag  
in HTML is being forgotten in the manufacture of the digest...


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Re: Seagate HD firmware update

2009-02-04 Thread James E. Therrault

dorayme wrote:
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 11:36 am
From: Kris Tilford

On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Paul wrote:


The announcement said Seagate has isolated this issue to a firmware
bug affecting drives from these families manufactured IN December
2008. That would seem to narrow the field of eligible drives quite a
bit.

No, you misquoted Seagate's announcement.

It was manufactured THROUGH December 2008, meaning including all
months prior to December 2008.

 
 
 through Dec means up to Dec This an American thing? Sure ain't  
 Australian or Pommy...
 
 Anyway, if I may, why are so many (not all) of my G3 posts coming  
 through with most text underlined? Looks like an anchor closing tag  
 in HTML is being forgotten in the manufacture of the digest...
 
 
 --
 dorayme
 


Through Dec means inclusive to the end of the month and all months prior.

JT


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Re: Quite External Drive

2009-02-04 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


 On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:43 PM, George Hozendorf wrote:


 The quietness of my Mac Mini has me spoiled.  I had a LaCie Mini  
 which
 developed a loud fan noise.  It was replaced with a LaCie Big Disk as
 they offered me a great deal, but it too is noisy.  Can anyone attest
 to the noise level of the NewerTech miniStack?


We just got a Seagate FreeAgent Pro drive in to serve as a utility  
backup drive, so we don't have to attache potentially infected windows  
systems to the network, and it is silent.

Like Is this thing really on?? silent.

It's quite heavy, and the base is set on some substantial rubber feet,  
minimizing vibrations, too. A really well-made drive, so far (of  
course it's been on for all of 15 minutes now, so we'll see.)


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Re: Quite External Drive

2009-02-04 Thread Amanda Ward

On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 We just got a Seagate FreeAgent Pro drive in to serve as a utility
 backup drive, so we don't have to attache potentially infected windows
 systems to the network, and it is silent.

 Like Is this thing really on?? silent.

 It's quite heavy, and the base is set on some substantial rubber feet,
 minimizing vibrations, too. A really well-made drive, so far (of
 course it's been on for all of 15 minutes now, so we'll see.)

I have two, Maxtor One Touch, USB drives, one 500 and one 250 GB,  
connected to my iMac and they're totally quiet... much like the Mac! :-)
Now... if I could just get rid of the darned lights on the front of  
the drives!

Amanda

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Re: Seagate HD firmware update

2009-02-04 Thread glen



   No, you misquoted Seagate's announcement.

 
  It was manufactured THROUGH December 2008, meaning including all
  months prior to December 2008.
 
 
 through Dec means up to Dec This an American thing? Sure ain't 
 Australian or Pommy...

Perhaps it is an American thing? I take though December to mean until the end 
of the month i.e. Dec 31st, at least here in the good 'ole USA. It could mean 
something else in other countries.


 Anyway, if I may, why are so many (not all) of my G3 posts coming  
 through with most text underlined? Looks like an anchor closing tag  
 in HTML is being forgotten in the manufacture of the digest...
 
Your  posts look fine to me. I have never seen any underlines. -glen


  

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Re: A once in an epoch event!

2009-02-04 Thread Arnel Tuazon

Now that's cool... =)

On 04/02/09 2:23 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Check it out!
 
 Better than watching your first car's odometer roll over!
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/04/unix_timestamp_milestone/
 
 :)
 
 - Dan.



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Re: Sawtooth vs DA/QuickSilver

2009-02-04 Thread PeterH


On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:36 PM, tortoise wrote:

 Can't be done for two reasons:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
 ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:ITitem=270322238067



My statement specifically counseled against a (133 MHz bus)  
Quicksilver CPUs in 100 MHz bus Macs.

The cited ePray auction, above, is for a later 100 MHz bus CPU in an  
earlier 100 MHz bus Mac, not a 133 MHz bus CPU (such as QS or DA) in  
a 100 MHz bus Mac.



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