Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
Dan wrote: At 4:48 AM -0700 3/20/2009, artemis wrote: What I'm concerned about is this: When Mike Bombich says that CCC erases the target drive in order to do its thing, does he mean it erases the ENTIRE drive? Or will it safely clone to the vacant partition leaving the files on the other two partitions intact? For your purposes, you do NOT want to do a block-level clone. A block-level clone is an *exact* copy of your original - including any file system holes and bad blocks. Instead, you need to do a file-level backup - which CCC calls an Incremental. Prepare your volumes in advance then do the incremental then CCC will populate the volume, building a new clean file system as it goes. Also, considering CCC is installed in the Apps folder of the IBM, are there any issues regarding, basically, having this drive clone ITSELF while it's essentially the active drive? From the OS' point of view, there's no problemo. But some apps keep data in memory for far too long before writing it to disk. This means the files that CCC grabs will be a tad out of date. To prevent that, it's best to quit those app (eg: Eudora), as well as dismount any dmg volumes. If I understand the documentation correctly, it seems to say it can be done, albeit preferably during idle time. Idle is best, because you're modifying fewer files. If you want to speed up the backup a bit, btw, tell it to ignore Library/Caches and /private/var/vm/. Note the lack of the initial /. That's done so as to ignore /Library/Caches/ *and* all the caches folders in each user directory. - Dan. So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
At 8:00 AM -0700 3/21/2009, nestamicky wrote: So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? huh? It's a thread about fans that has skewed off into HD functions... What's that got to do with apps? If you want to do a thread about fav apps, then you should start a new thread with an appropriate subject. That way it's easily found when one searches. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
Quicksilver 1.6 GHz, Tiger, Radeon 9700. One other question: Does it change performance much whether I connect it via the analog inputs or the newfangled digital ones? On Mar 20, 11:42 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:21 PM, tonycd wrote: My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) More than likely this is color profiles for the monitor. a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? None as far as I know. Whether features such as autorotation work (flipping it from landscape to portrait orientation) is dependent on the vide drivers, not the monitor. You don't mention what computer you have, and what video card you have...there are monitors on the market today that won't work with some of the very old Video cards in the earliest OS X compatible computers. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:39 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Charles Davis wrote: Please note, I'm talking about the 'Write Zeros' operation, NOT just 'Erasing' ---[ Which is just Zeroing out the directory data, not elimination the 'bit patterns' on the platter surface.] Same meaning here ... sometimes called Secure Erase Zeroing or something. Zeroes get written, and bad sectors get mapped out ... hopefully for Partitions, too. If you go into Disk Utility, you'll see your devices laid out like : Disk model identification Drive Volume name (partition1) Drive Volume Name (Partition2) etc (as I recall, it's been a long time sine I used drives with multiple partitions, there's little reason to do so.) on the left hand side. Actions done while the top line is selected apply to the entire drive device, actions done while a volume is selected apply only to that volume. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Yeah, great. Adding the extra ram might help with CS, but barring specific circumstances, noticeable performance gains diminish after getting above 1Gig. Once you get 10.5 installed, with the current RAM, install Menu Meters http://tinyurl.com/8d5vn and keep an eye on RAM usage. If you consistently find yourself with a very small amount free, boosting RAM will help. I have 768 megs in mine, and it runs fine (although I don't use CS at all on it). -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
It should run just fine. We have a 1Ghz upgraded G4 Digital Audio tower with 1.25 Gb of ram, and it runs just fine. (Doesn't go slow or freeze up at all) Be glad you have a G4 to run the Adobe CS. It goes slow on the Intel macs. Also, upgrading RAM always makes your Mac go faster :) Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:21 PM, tonycd wrote: My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) More than likely this is color profiles for the monitor. a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? None as far as I know. Whether features such as autorotation work (flipping it from landscape to portrait orientation) is dependent on the vide drivers, not the monitor. You don't mention what computer you have, and what video card you have...there are monitors on the market today that won't work with some of the very old Video cards in the earliest OS X compatible computers. Yes, I made the move nearly three years ago. Bought a Samsung 22 and it worked out of the box and I have an acient G4 with only 16MB VRAM. The real estate is great! JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
Adding more ram will help, I've found that OS X likes to eat up ram. On 3/21/09, Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: It should run just fine. We have a 1Ghz upgraded G4 Digital Audio tower with 1.25 Gb of ram, and it runs just fine. (Doesn't go slow or freeze up at all) Be glad you have a G4 to run the Adobe CS. It goes slow on the Intel macs. Also, upgrading RAM always makes your Mac go faster :) Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! Beware though: - Adobe CS (and CS2) is not supported beyond 10.4. That doesn't mean it won't work, but Adobe only support CS3 on 10.5. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
Bill sent me the m-audio driver and his panic crash logs... At 4:58 PM -0400 3/19/2009, insightinmind wrote: Running AppleJack may have solved the problem. At 8:58 AM -0400 3/20/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: I had another Blue Screen freeze this AM. May be not related to the M-Audio drivers? Half the panic logs point to the M-Audio driver. The other half point to the VIDEO card! Not good. Try pulling that card and making sure all the contacts are clean, etc. If you have a diff video card you can try, that might be helpful. Several of the crash logs show mdworker failed. It is part of Spotlight's indexing system. The importer being used at the time of the crash was com.sibelius.MDImporter.score. That suggests either a) Sibelius' importer is buggy OR b) your disk needs repairing, and perhaps there are some corrupted files of the type that importer is accessing. Note: I also replaced the PRAM battery with a fresh one Good. I see some of the panic logs are dated 1969 - which indicates a power manager failure. Replacing the battery is the first step to diagnosing that. created a new Network Location which selects Using DHCP, but I force the listing of only 1 DNS Server, the usual 192.168.1.1. The Location setup by the OS listed the server twice for some reason (192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.1) Normal. Duping the DNS is done create a retry on time-out lookups. If you're having difficulties with name lookups, switch to real DSN servers such as 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2, instead of using your router's forwarder. Anyway, it looks like the M-Audio Delta Helper folder is now being accessed only AFTER the loginwindow.app starts, and runs through the StartupItems M-Audio Delta Helper (folder) items completely ... but only after the loginwindow.app. Previously, it looked like it was trying to start, and failed, before loginwindow.app ... then if it tried again, it would run to completion. Make sense? Ok. Can't tell - you didn't send any system.log files. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
I run the CS2 Suite (Illustrator, Photoshop mostly) in 10.5. I just tried Illustrator CS, and it works just fine. You should be fine. Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Ted Treen wrote: Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! Beware though: - Adobe CS (and CS2) is not supported beyond 10.4. That doesn't mean it won't work, but Adobe only support CS3 on 10.5. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
More drives?
Hello All, What are your opinions about this little item?? http://www.sonnettech.com/product/g5_jive.html Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
Hey Tony and All, On Thursday, I bought a 19 Westinghouse LCD monitor at a local Chicago-area Target on clearance for $99. I connected it to my project PowerMac G4 Digital Audio using the analog VGA inputs. The monitor came with the VGA cable. It also has DVI input, but no cable included. It works and looks great, right out of the box. No typical Apple bells and whistles...no USB ports, speakers, or camera but a nice, cheap, good-size monitor. Bill On Mar 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, tonycd wrote: Quicksilver 1.6 GHz, Tiger, Radeon 9700. One other question: Does it change performance much whether I connect it via the analog inputs or the newfangled digital ones? On Mar 20, 11:42 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:21 PM, tonycd wrote: My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) More than likely this is color profiles for the monitor. a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? None as far as I know. Whether features such as autorotation work (flipping it from landscape to portrait orientation) is dependent on the vide drivers, not the monitor. You don't mention what computer you have, and what video card you have...there are monitors on the market today that won't work with some of the very old Video cards in the earliest OS X compatible computers. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
speakers (was: Re: White MacBook Purchase?)
At 7:37 PM -0700 3/20/09, tortoise wrote: On topic: what happens if I try and plug a pair of ordinary speakers into my G4-DA ? I got a submini to mini stereo adapter, but I read on apples support site that apple speakers have a ROM which identifies them to the computer. There they say you shouldn't connect regular speakers, but they do not say it will hurt the computer or the speakers... has anyone tried it ? Yep. No problem here. -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ Green Building Professionals Directory: http://directory.greenbuilder.com Sustainable Building Calendar: http://www.greenbuilder.com/calendar/ Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/ Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/ Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
