Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera Question
On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you may be able to find them for yourself next time: 1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided 36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which you didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to identify a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely 10096 and the Device ID was 36956. 2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these would be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh in Google without the quotes. 3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get the search terms highlighted for quicker scanning: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi= 4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says of the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky 18, hurrah!). 5) In that 5th row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpage where your highlighted camera is located, under the Model row, the any camera with matching IDs is an active link, leading to this page: http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/camera.php?id=364 Under the row Camera notes: it says: Support for these cameras is proveded by the OEM. For example see: http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html BINGO! A link for the OS X driver! 6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me Back button. Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from the previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug 06, 2007: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html 7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these links, you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and will download if you click the links: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them. 8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third time someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a download for an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on the Internet Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and instructions fast just in case. I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you see the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted from the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work for you. Good luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at
Re: Digital Camera Question
ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you may be able to find them for yourself next time: 1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided 36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which you didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to identify a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely 10096 and the Device ID was 36956. 2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these would be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh in Google without the quotes. 3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get the search terms highlighted for quicker scanning: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi= 4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says of the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky 18, hurrah!). 5) In that 5th row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpage where your highlighted camera is located, under the Model row, the any camera with matching IDs is an active link, leading to this page: http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/camera.php?id=364 Under the row Camera notes: it says: Support for these cameras is proveded by the OEM. For example see: http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html BINGO! A link for the OS X driver! 6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me Back button. Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from the previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug 06, 2007: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html 7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these links, you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and will download if you click the links: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them. 8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third time someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a download for an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on the Internet Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and instructions fast just in case. I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you see the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted from the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work for you. Good luck! What a fantastic help! Thanks...and I'm not the one needing them, but I know now to keep the way back machine up front in my mind. And the use of calculator? Who would have thought? Great! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at
Re: Airport N + dialup?
At 6:50 AM -0700 7/11/2009, starrf...@valley.net wrote: I'm thinking about buying an Airport Extreme N to use its ability to mount usb disks. (According to a detailed review, it can mount multilple usb disks through a hub. Has anyone tried this?) Problem is, I need a dial-up modem. Currently I use a disk shaped Airport Extreme g with a built in modem. Will the N Airport access a usb modem through its usb disk port, through a usb hub (so I can use drives too?) Or if I network my old Airport g with the Airport N, will I easily be able to access the dialup modem in the older Airport? Don't NAT your NAT. Use the AEg as your WAN connection. Plug the ARn into your LAN, as you would any wired computer. Disable NAT and DHCP in it. Then you can connect to the ARn's wi-fi, and it will route you out thru the AEg, with the AEg providing NAT and DHCP services to your LAN. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: Don't NAT your NAT. Use the AEg as your WAN connection. Plug the ARn into your LAN, as you would any wired computer. Disable NAT and DHCP in it. Then you can connect to the ARn's wi-fi, and it will route you out thru the AEg, with the AEg providing NAT and DHCP services to your LAN. Yeah, what Dan said. Other more or less stock wireless suggestions would be: 1) If you're not using the 802.11g in your AEg then turn off that radio so it can't interfere with the AEn. 2) If you ARE using both the 802.11g and 802.11n, then try to locate the routers at least 5-10 feet apart and at least 1 foot from a wall. If they are both using the 2.4 GHz band, then make sure the channels they are using are as far apart as possible. 3) Postition the AirPort(s) as high and as centrally located as possible to get the best coverage signal strength. (Just read a thread from someone complaining about how bad his wireless n was. Turns out he had his router on the floor of a closet. Moving it to the top apparently made a very noticeable difference to his throughput.) Other suggestions in the link below might also be of interest to you. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30182/228/ -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Al Poulinalfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: And here is Apple's Setup Guide: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/AirPortExtreme_802.11n_UserGuide.pdf and Apple's Design pub for the latest model: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Apple_AirPort_Networks_Early2009.pdf plus the earlier 2008 models: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Designing_AirPort_Networks_10.5-Windows.pdf I tried (briefly) to locate the manual for the AirPort Extreme Base Station with Modem M8799LL/A which is what I think the OP said he is using to connect to the Internet. However, I didn't have much luck. All I could find was this Technical Specifications doc: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP55 If it's the same device it sounds as though it can handle some heavy lifting. Supposedly able to handle up to 50 802.11g clients simultaneously? -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Dan wrote: Don't NAT your NAT. Use the AEg as your WAN connection. Plug the ARn into your LAN, as you would any wired computer. Disable NAT and DHCP in it. Then you can connect to the ARn's wi-fi, and it will route you out thru the AEg, with the AEg providing NAT and DHCP services to your LAN. Ditto ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
Hi there, I have a Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors, that I have been using for the past three years. A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. The entire event lasts less than a second and consists of a high tone, followed by a lower tone. If anybody's familiar with the old Milton Bradley handheld baseball game the tones coming from my Mac are almost exactly the same as the tones one gets when a third out is attained - just a quick Bee- boop. Is there a significance to these tones? If so, what do they mean? Is my Mac trying to warn me of it's demise? Any help with this would be most appreciated. Thanks a lot, Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? I just did No Image Capture Device Connected -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? I just did No Image Capture Device Connected Install the drivers first!: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf THEN, use Image Capture (if necessary, may auto-detect in iPhoto or other applications). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? I just did No Image Capture Device Connected Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance? Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On 7/12/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? I just did No Image Capture Device Connected Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance? Dana Never thought to try QuickTime How would it see the camera? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Digital Camera Update
OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine won't accept my password for installation. I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain password). How do I remedy this? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:24 PM, dualG4Wheels wrote: Hi there, I have a Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors, that I have been using for the past three years. A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. The entire event lasts less than a second and consists of a high tone, followed by a lower tone. If anybody's familiar with the old Milton Bradley handheld baseball game the tones coming from my Mac are almost exactly the same as the tones one gets when a third out is attained - just a quick Bee- boop. Is there a significance to these tones? If so, what do they mean? Is my Mac trying to warn me of it's demise? Any help with this would be most appreciated. It didn't sound more like an old vinyl record having a needle scraped across it? My hard drive sent that though my audio system once when I had to shut it down by holding the power button in ... I believe that was somewhat of a disk crash ... seems to be still functioning though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
On Jul 12, 4:25 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:24 PM, dualG4Wheels wrote: Hi there, I have a Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors, that I have been using for the past three years. A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. The entire event lasts less than a second and consists of a high tone, followed by a lower tone. If anybody's familiar with the old Milton Bradley handheld baseball game the tones coming from my Mac are almost exactly the same as the tones one gets when a third out is attained - just a quick Bee- boop. Is there a significance to these tones? If so, what do they mean? Is my Mac trying to warn me of it's demise? Any help with this would be most appreciated. It didn't sound more like an old vinyl record having a needle scraped across it? My hard drive sent that though my audio system once when I had to shut it down by holding the power button in ... I believe that was somewhat of a disk crash ... seems to be still functioning though. No record scratching here (just thinking of that sound makes me wince), just two beeps. :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera Update
Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine won't accept my password for installation. I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain password). How do I remedy this? Boot with the DVD/CD with OS X and change the password. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
At 1:31 PM -0400 7/12/2009, John Martz wrote: If it's the same device it sounds as though it can handle some heavy lifting. Supposedly able to handle up to 50 802.11g clients simultaneously? Yea, umpteen clients no problemo. But if x% of those clients do anything serious? ROFLMAO. ...Not a constraint of Airport/Apple brand per se. Just a fact of life for that whole home genre of devices. They just don't have enough cpu or i/o bandwidth to crank on that many clients. This is why there is a market for small office and business grade devices, then a whole other one (cost level) for commercial grade routers. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
At 12:24 PM -0700 7/12/2009, dualG4Wheels wrote: Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. Open the case and shutdown while listening carefully. It could be the HD motor dying. Or the fan. Or a capacitor in the power supply. Update your backups! Just in case it's the HD... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera Update
On 7/12/09, nestami...@gmail.com nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine won't accept my password for installation. I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain password). How do I remedy this? Boot with the DVD/CD with OS X and change the password. I do not have the 10.2 CD I only have an earlier one -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
Thanks for lots of interesting replys. I'm not sure what I'll do. Does anyone know if a usb modem would work in the usb port of the Airport Extreme n? Apparently you can connect multiple drives and printer(s) using a usb hub. If a modem would work it might solve my problem. Rich On Jul 12, 5:01 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:31 PM -0400 7/12/2009, John Martz wrote: If it's the same device it sounds as though it can handle some heavy lifting. Supposedly able to handle up to 50 802.11g clients simultaneously? Yea, umpteen clients no problemo. But if x% of those clients do anything serious? ROFLMAO. ...Not a constraint of Airport/Apple brand per se. Just a fact of life for that whole home genre of devices. They just don't have enough cpu or i/o bandwidth to crank on that many clients. This is why there is a market for small office and business grade devices, then a whole other one (cost level) for commercial grade routers. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
On Jul 12, 9:01 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:24 PM -0700 7/12/2009, dualG4Wheels wrote: Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. Open the case and shutdown while listening carefully. It could be the HD motor dying. Or the fan. Or a capacitor in the power supply. Update your backups! Just in case it's the HD... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. I have time machine on the job as we speak. Everything you suggest, I know could be possible failure points, but to me, what I head on these occasions can only be described as being electronically generated - like an old game or a PC box starting up. But I'll admit that I've been fooled before! Thanks for the suggestions, Dan. Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
At 8:02 PM -0700 7/12/2009, starrf...@valley.net wrote: Does anyone know if a usb modem would work in the usb port of the Airport Extreme n? http://support.apple.com/kb/SP20 http://www.macintouch.com/reviews/airportn/ The Airport Extreme 802.11n does NOT support dial-up PPP. The WAN support is limited to direct ethernet or PPPoE (xDSL modem with an ethernet interface). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is my Powermac G4 MDD calling itself out?
Try disconnecting all the hard drives and turning it on then off. Try to listen to where the sound is coming from. Also verify all the hard drives. -Jonas On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, dualG4Wheels horne...@metrocast.netwrote: On Jul 12, 9:01 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:24 PM -0700 7/12/2009, dualG4Wheels wrote: Powermac G4 MDD, with dual 1.42 processors A couple of weeks ago, when I shut the machine down, right before it went off altogether,but after the hard drive parked, I heard a distinct two beat (and beep) melody coming from inside the case, as opposed to the speaker. At the time, I brushed it aside as some sort of fluke. But, last night, my Powermac called out again. Open the case and shutdown while listening carefully. It could be the HD motor dying. Or the fan. Or a capacitor in the power supply. Update your backups! Just in case it's the HD... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. I have time machine on the job as we speak. Everything you suggest, I know could be possible failure points, but to me, what I head on these occasions can only be described as being electronically generated - like an old game or a PC box starting up. But I'll admit that I've been fooled before! Thanks for the suggestions, Dan. Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
I've tried the CUDMA Reset, and now (after a few minutes) it cycles around with a flashing disk image. I have DVD ROM attached temporarily (ie case open), and even though there's disc in it, it won't start up. It seems something is wrong because it spends 3-4 mins on a black screen, after the chimes. Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera Question
On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I do not have the 10.2 CD I only have an earlier one http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---