Re: Question about how Time Machine works
John, the not-yet-dead drive in this Mac is a 500-gigger. Big enough, I suppose, to be useful in an external enclosure for archiving something. Or something. Hey, I just dropped by the Apple website to see if I could pick up any pointers on using Time Machine, and it appears that one does not actually have to install Leopard on a new hard drive first in order to summon up a complete backup of a dead drive (including its OS) from Time Machine. Here is the webpage, and the tip is #14 on the FAQ list: http://tinyurl.com/nqf4t6 It says there that you need only insert a Leopard installer disk and boot the Mac from it, and then invoke a utility on that disk called Restore from Backups to prompt Time Machine to call up a complete restore of a drive. So, with two drives backed up in Time Machine, I should be able to boot from the OS installer disk twice, and each time restore the contents of an old drive to its new replacement drive. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook/social networks
I'm on facebook with some 200 friends, but still haven't used it for anything else than wasting time. I recall a friend of mine, quite a shy person, saying: “isn’t facebook that thing to help you find people that you had lost contact such 10-20 years ago? Well if you lost contact for so many years there must have been a good reason!” He is an introvert guy, but his analysis is quite interesting... Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook/social networks
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Beniamino T. Cenci Goga ben...@gmail.comwrote: I'm on facebook with some 200 friends, but still haven't used it for anything else than wasting time. I recall a friend of mine, quite a shy person, saying: “isn’t facebook that thing to help you find people that you had lost contact such 10-20 years ago? Well if you lost contact for so many years there must have been a good reason!” He is an introvert guy, but his analysis is quite interesting... Yes there are always people whom you do not want to deal with if it was bad to begin with. But do you mean you never lost track of someone you liked? Wow that would be rare. And even if someone difficult asks to be a friend. You ignore it and drop the link. what can they do. and if you are wasting time rather than making plans with friends and family and sharing company over the net. Plans to go to do stuff together or share news or even just a quick message to get there faster than email. What does that say about the way you are using it? You and everyone else are persons with the ability to make choices. It is not like TV where you veg out and just take it in. Wasting time on networking sites? go have a drink some where or find communication using these sites in a more productive way. With face book you can reach many people at once. With pics text ,music and video to share. True hypertext in the full meaning. What and how you do with it is up to your own imagination. I like it because all of these busy people all over the world can talk even though everyone is busy. You can write it or read/ play it at your own convenience. You are in control and no one else. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
On Sep 4, 11:23 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: First, stop using degrading terms like fag. Bill Connelly, Artist Who's Offended by Racism Firstly the real Billy Connelly has a better sense of humour, and secondly I don't think that's racism. Lighten up. Perhaps the original poster is British, over here fags are things that kill you (small white carcinogenic tubes that are sold by murdering corporations and used by the brainless as a slow form of suicide) otherwise known as cigarettes or coffin nails . When I first read this I thought he was commenting on smokers (or working class idiots) not gays. Ben. (real person who is nether politically correct or racist ) (NB since when has offending someones sexuality been racist??) (NNB Artist or Artistic is also used as a euphemism for a homosexual in the UK!) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Internet vulnerability
John Niven wrote: -- On Fri, 9/4/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: A browser just sitting there isn't going to do anything. You can get autorefresh going, then there's the remote possibility that some malicious site could cause a problem with the 3rd or 4th refresh, but that's a very low profit way of infecting a system. Hi Bruce, You just hit on a question I was thinking of asking I often have a browser (usually FireFox) open but minimised. I have noticed that Activety Monitor often says that cpu time is being used by the browser under these conditions. Should I be closing the application when not using it to maximize my active experience? You don't need to quit the application but you might want to consider closing some of the windows. Some sites load up with lots of java and are busy doing... something. Sites that continuously update status of something would be one example. The best gauge would be to keep enough of Activity monitor visible to see what is happening with Safari when you are busy with something else. Don't worry about what it says when you aren't doing anything, those numbers are usually not helpful. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
WhyOSX wrote: You're right. but it's a way to solve such a problem. iTunes runs without real problems on my G4/733 (Tiger), as on a 5400 G3 or even a PB 1400cs/166 with 9.1 installed - which was a little tricky. Try it on a PM 6100 or PB 5300. It will run, but nothing else will. When I tried it on the 6100 it took 60 seconds for it to respond to the space bar and pause. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
Ian Prickett wrote: Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks Wouldn't it be better to set it up using the installer disk? You can do that if you are installing OSXServer. If you do you can do the install and set up without needing a video card in the XServe. The button(s) on the front panel control booting from the optical drive and you then use ARD (or Screen Sharing should work too) to set it up. Otherwise you could do it using Firewire TDM to either install from the CD/DVD or clone it from another computer. You can then boot from the XServe disk via TDM and configure it from the computer you did the install from. I once did the install and configure from an iBook with the XServe's HD mounted via FW TDM. It worked real well and I had no trouble after I had the XServe boot normally. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
Damn. I was going to respond that the fagbook comment suggests to me an antipathy to cigarette butts but I was not quick enough: First, stop using degrading terms like fag. Perhaps the original poster is British, over here fags are things that kill you (small white carcinogenic tubes that are sold by murdering corporations and used by the brainless as a slow form of suicide) otherwise known as cigarettes or coffin nails . When I first read this I thought he was commenting on smokers (or working class idiots) not gays. Ben. Way to go, Ben! Fag also refers to drudge and schoolboy slave to a bully in British argot, or so I learned from reading C.S. Lewis's surprisingly frank Surprised by Joy. Lewis implies that some of these slaves were also sexual slaves. Perhaps here we have the origin of the term fag as a pejorative for homosexual. Oddly, it was surely the initiator of the sexual slavery whose tastes and habits could be condemned. But fear of being humiliated on the receiving end of institutional rape might account for the carrying on of the etymological evolution. Amongst males, the indecency is victimhood, or somehow being like a woman. We live in a weird world. My trusty THE NEW CENTURY DICTIONARY, rather old, has the traditional definition of fagot or faggot: a bundle of twigs or branches used to burn in fires. You will often come across this in older English literature. A faggot, in this terminology, is the same as a fasces, from which we get FASCISM. I started riffing on this, but my yearning for a connection to all meanings brought about distasteful ideas that perhaps should not be . . . HEY: This is a G3-G5 lowend Mac list! I thought I was on a political list. So, let me say that I use Facebook, and enjoy it. It's the new AOL, that is, a subset of the Internet meant to be friendly to newbies and the cautious. Because it encourages public displays of private information, it is not completely safe. It's a goldmine for identity thieves. --timo v P.S. At home I use a G5 PowerMac tower. I need to connect it to my Airport station, which has a modem to log onto the Internet (my broadband is reserved for work). I have a NewerTech or MaxPower wireless card to put in it, but that doesn't seem to work with Airport software. Can it be made to? Or must I wait for my Airport Express card to show up? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Network Problem
Dan wrote: At 9:37 PM -0500 9/4/2009, Fred Thiel wrote: I networked my PowerMac G4 to my G4 eMac with a wireless Belkin router. Both are running OSX 10.4.11 and personal file, DVD and Personal Web sharing are checked on both. I can see the applications that are on my eMac from the PowerMac, but not vice versa. Both folders appear to be in the same place on their respective volumes, on the root level, but I can't figure out how to make the PowerMac Applications accessible from the eMac. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. To see beyond the user directories, you must login to an administrator account. You're right, non-admin accounts only see other users folders and then usually only the Public folder. Admin accounts can see the whole HD. I had to test it out as I almost never use a non-admin account. But you can use SharePoints to provide much more control, similar to what Leopard allows. You can use it to make any folder (including the root) a share. You can also use it to create sharing only users. You can setup folders with different control for AppleShare and Windows Sharing too. www.versiontracker.com lists it. I believe there are different versions for Tiger and Panther. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:14 AM, beecaretaker ben64sm...@googlemail.comwrote: (NNB Artist or Artistic is also used as a euphemism for a homosexual in the UK!) And homosexuality is more commonly accepted as a person's choice. Since Public School Cane thrashing is still a popular sport. I suppose some cannot even watch BBC America. where the greatest car show on Television in the world Top Gear treats gays and straights as equalls even while kidding each other about it. One of the three hosts is openly gay. i won't say who. Yet he is sometimes the fastest when the race . And just as able to get a car going as the others when they break down. In 26 years working construction I have met many he-man types who become like whimpering little girls when their cars, trucks and motorcycles break down. I have known women both straight and gay who can gut a deer without fainting, rebuild a diesel engine. Survey a dam construction site and weld up the frame of a dragster. How long do we gotta ba slaves to our fears. gay people have been around since the first protohumanoid. animals in the wild love the one their with. It ain't catching folks. Or you'd-a-got it by now cause every family has at least one. And not all artists are homosexual. nor is any other stereotype necessarily .true. Even Jesse James on Monster Garage had peopel of every gender role fabricating cool-ass cars. If Jesse ain't afraid or has to prove himself more a man by hating others why should anyone be unkind? Jesse let everyone have a change cause he sets a good example for America. he know's what it is all about. it's about freedom! folks! If gays ain't free then neither are the rest of us. When you have to get an emergency bypass are you going to say no because the surgeon is gay. Or turn down blood from a gay who passes the tests? That is the connection to gay bashing and racism. Because blacks had to face and still face THOSE kinds of prejudices. A Tukegee Airman died http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090901/ap_on_re_us/us_obit_tuskegee_airman I bet he could tell stories that would curl your hair about unfair treatment. Even though he gave great service to his country in one of the most prestigiously honorable units of the WWarII. and probably still could not get a cab from the boat to the train station going home. And lastly, ironically enough for a Mac list, Where I live you were lableed a Homo for just looking at an Apple or a Mac! Because everyone knew that real men only use PCs! ! ! ! Only the artistic types ( their goes that rotten stereotype again ) use Apples and Macs . I read a lot of car magazines and other cool culture stuff over the years and see a lot of art, cool hip art made on both PCs and Macs that everyone likes. Art made by gays and non gays as well. But everyone knows only gays use Macs Yeah right! And in every branch of the service gays die every day saving the asses of the miserable rest of us who bask in the freedom they die to protect just like the Tuskegee Airmen and the guys on the land train route fighting through enemy country bringing gas and ammo to General Patton during the big War. They had to fight their way there and back. Protecting the folks at home so they had the freedom to insult the black's who survived the war. Gays in the military are keeping our asses free every day. And are accepted in that role because soldiers in a fight know there ain't gays and non gays there's just Americans! . It's easy to call yourself an american. because everyne has a right to free speech while denying that right and many others because they don't like what those people do. Sound like any one you heard of in history class? My brother was a man by the time I was born. he was with patton at the Battle of the Bulge. He saw the death camps personally. He always said no one could EVER tell him the holocaust was a lie. He smelled the ashes and stink of death He knew how to respect the dignity of others and it would dishonor his memory if I did not follow his example. Bashing and genocidal thoughts against anyone threatens everyone. From wikipedia; *First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.* This stuff should be obvious to everyone with a highschool diploma. No one should NOT know how gay bashing relates to racism. NO ONE! If citizenship was based on a test of the ideal ( I said ideals, not the actions ) of the founding fathers, how many reading this i.e. you Mac using artistic types would fail? A slender acquaintance with the world must convince every man that actions, not words, are the true criterion of the attachment of friends. George Washingtonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgewash146825.html all
Re: facebook
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Timo Wirkman Virkkala wirk...@gmail.comwrote: Because it encourages public displays of private information, it is not completely safe. It's a goldmine for identity thieves. They may mine data, and fake it that way. But you should know how to protect that by now.The internet has been around for how long now? But will they use disguises to look like you for the few hundred you have in the bank? Pictures are on there. Better be more worried about angry neighbors than thieves. At a convenience store today I saw they sell a local magazine that lists all of the sexual predators and criminals in my area. When they got out. and who just got arrested etc. And what everyone was charged with! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
I'm sorry, my 6100/66 runs a 7.6.1 and I will not change that. Lars WhyOSX wrote: You're right. but it's a way to solve such a problem. iTunes runs without real problems on my G4/733 (Tiger), as on a 5400 G3 or even a PB 1400cs/166 with 9.1 installed - which was a little tricky. Try it on a PM 6100 or PB 5300. It will run, but nothing else will. When I tried it on the 6100 it took 60 seconds for it to respond to the space bar and pause. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook/social networks
You got me totally wrong; that was not promotional - how could it be, there is nothing to win. I just wanted to give an example of a non-boring social network. Lars On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: Join here, and you may change your mind: http://retromaccast.ning.com/ Lars (WhyOSX) - you can find me there. Are you inviting all of LEM to join. Good heaven, no! Ambitious site promotion! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
crash on shutdown
Here is what I did: I used target mode from an iBook G4 to my iMac G3. I needed to use the iBook's DVD drive to install an upgrade to OS 10.4 onto the G3. The installation ran smoothly, but now, when I shut down the G3 I get Apple's small black multi-language screen that tells me that I need to re-start my computer. I ran Disk Warrior and found NO problems on the G3 Any ideas what might be going on with the iMac? Larry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.
On Sep 4, 9:24 pm, Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu (and I would guess Edubuntu) aren't very slim, and I'd expect they'd gobble a lot of resources on an older computer. We've used Xubuntu on some older pcs, but still... I just finished installing Linux on an old Wallstreet. Starting with ubuntu base install, I added LXDE window manager, resulting in quite snappy performance (292 MHz, 384 Mb). It seems less resource hungry than even xubuntu! V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:18 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This stuff should be obvious to everyone with a highschool diploma. No one should NOT know how gay bashing relates to racism. NO ONE! If citizenship was based on a test of the ideal ( I said ideals, not the actions ) of the founding fathers, how many reading this i.e. you Mac using artistic types would fail? Oh .. ok ... I shared this with Chance and Adrian offlist, thinking how far away from the purpose of G3-G5 we've gone astray ... FWIW: ... Thought I'd respond offlist since we're so way off / list / topically ... What people do to gay folks like myself is so akin to racist acts that I no longer separate it out. Homosexuality is genetic as I believe a person's race is also determined. I've been told gay folk's hypothalamus is 10% smaller than straight folks. This causes same sex attraction, as well as a slowing down in aging, and maybe even a childlike friendliness or playfulness so many gay folks exhibit ... People who discriminate against gays are really discriminating against a genetic predisposition ... I just feel the result is the same as racial discrimination. True ... homosexuality is a genetic characteristic that shows up across all races. Its not really racism ... to make my points, though, the similarities are just too close too ignore. I'm now too tired to respond further tonight ... I do thank you for labeling it what it is (fagbook) ... gay bashing. Best wishes! Bill Artist (Painter, Musician, Dancer , oh my!) Mac Enthusiast, To Say the Least (oh my!) Pet Owner (Cat Dog, oh my!) Not So Much a Broadway Musical Fanatic (oh my! I may loose may Gay ID Card) Queer (oh my!) Someone called me that for the first time when I was 10 years old ... got right up in my face and called me a Q-U-E-E-E-E-R-R-R for watching him shoot a basketball and admiring his form ... that's when I also got the nickname Billy Car. It meant Queer, and came about partially because my Dad taught Driving Instruction, and had a car with 2 steering wheels, 2 brakes, 2 clutches, 2 gas pedals. Maybe that invoked a touching sensation via the feet that reminded the name callers of being touched improperly some time in their early lifetime? something they could not control at the time? So now every time I respond in the G3-G5 and other lists with my e- mail billycarm...@verizon.net ... So where does He's Not Gay, He's just British come from? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: crash on shutdown
On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Any ideas what might be going on with the iMac? Try reinstalling the latest COMBO Update on the iMac and see if that solve the issue. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: lock email
I'm talking about a separate computer user account, desktop and all... On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Michael J. Amato wrote: Why not set up a separate user account for the computer complete with password? because it's not just the account on the computer... it's bank accounts, paypal accounts, amazon accounts, ebay accounts you have to have two separate bank accounts to have two paypal accounts... it gets very complicated. I have a hard enough time just keeping track of the accounts I have now.. .. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless Network Problem
. Let me know what OS you have and I will try to help you the best I can. Sorry about the omission. I have OSX 10.4.11 on both machines. Locations of the volumes in get info on both look to be ' / '. Applications seem to be the only files I cannot see. Fred --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Another way to do wireless?
Rather than struggle with a PCI wireless card that might be the wrong chipset (though it works fine in a PC), isn't there a device that's somewhat like a wireless broadband modem/router - wireless and connected to the Mac through the Ethernet port, but without the plug to connect to cable or DSL. Or is that not even theoretically possible? Right now, when I want to get a Mac on the Internet, I disconnect my wireless DSL modem from my PC, and move it to where the Mac is, which has to be near another phone jack. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about how Time Machine works
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Tomtba...@nmia.com wrote: So, with two drives backed up in Time Machine, I should be able to boot from the OS installer disk twice, and each time restore the contents of an old drive to its new replacement drive. Yes, you should not need to install OS X to a drive just to be able to restore the data on it from Time Machine. Also, while I haven't done it so I can't say for sure, I don't think you'd have to boot from the install disc twice. You should only need to boot from the install DVD once and then just use the “Restore System From Backup…” utility to restore first one disk and then the other. Of course, before you began this entire process you'd want to make sure you have a current back up of your not dead yet drive you're going to replace. Just to make sure your backup contains a complete copy of that drive. I see there are also notes about immediately/temporarily turning off Time Machine backup after the restore to postpone Time Machine doing a complete (re)backup of both your drives. Not sure what the best way to approach that aspect of the process is. I guess at a minimum you'd want to make sure your system is working the way you expect/want before you let Time Machine overwrite your existing backup by backing up the drives you just restored. How does your G5 access your Time Machine backup? (Just curious.) -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another way to do wireless?
On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Paul wrote: Rather than struggle with a PCI wireless card that might be the wrong chipset (though it works fine in a PC), isn't there a device that's somewhat like a wireless broadband modem/router - wireless and connected to the Mac through the Ethernet port, but without the plug to connect to cable or DSL. Or is that not even theoretically possible? Oh yeah they've made those for years; they're advertised to be able to make anything with an ethernet port wireless. http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=333 is one. I've used an earlier version of one of these to make my Powerbook 540C wireless... -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another way to do wireless?
Yes, they have them, and they're called Wireless Bridges. But they cost about 50$, and for that amount of money you could get an AirPort card for your mac and a WiFi router. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Paulpper...@gmail.com wrote: Rather than struggle with a PCI wireless card that might be the wrong chipset (though it works fine in a PC), isn't there a device that's somewhat like a wireless broadband modem/router - wireless and connected to the Mac through the Ethernet port, but without the plug to connect to cable or DSL. Or is that not even theoretically possible? Right now, when I want to get a Mac on the Internet, I disconnect my wireless DSL modem from my PC, and move it to where the Mac is, which has to be near another phone jack. -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?
On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:57 PM, WhyOSX wrote: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running', or were there only Huey, Duey and Louis ? I must have mis-spelled them; please send a correction. Vaguely I recall Bruce Dern doing something on a computer, so there must have been one. Haven't seen Silent Running in decades, so I can't be sure. The robots were called Huey, Dewey and Louie, after Donald Duck's nephews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey,_Dewey,_and_Louie -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another way to do wireless?
On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Paul wrote: From a quick read on the Internet, I found that some wireless DSL routers could work as bridges. ANY wireless router can act as a bridge if you want to go that route, I saw a Airport going on the swap list for $20 the other day. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?
On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Mike (Moon is a Harsh Mistress) True. Which (fortunately) after the cinematic horror that was Starship Troopers, they've never made into a movie, even though of all of Heinlein's novels MiaHM would seem the most logically film-able. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another way to do wireless?
From a quick read on the Internet, I found that some wireless DSL routers could work as bridges. Since used wireless DSL routers are often available very cheap, this may be the way to go. However, like almost everything else related to computers when trying not to spend to the max, it will take some research and time and frustration. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about how Time Machine works
Yes, if I can work Time Machine from the Leopard installer disk, you're right, I should be able to restore to both new drives in a single step. What I would do is just install the two new, empty drives, then fire up Time Machine from the installer disk, and tell TM to restore first one disk and then the other. If that's all there is to it, this should be simple. I paid for two-day shipping from OWC, so the drives might show up today. If not, the Labor Day holiday, in which no one labors, including FedEx I presume, will delay their delivery for a few more days, drat it. Whenever they do show up, I'll report here how well the restoration project goes. I have a 1 TB external drive plugged into the firewire slot on the front of the G5, and that's the one that Time Machine backs up to. Your suggestion that the currently working drive in the G5 be backed up to another storage device before trying any of this Time Machine stuff makes good sense, and I'll do that. Thanks. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another way to do wireless?
Howdy, If you are willing to tinker a bit, it can be much cheaper. I made mine for $15. I bought an Airlink AR430W from Fry's and reflashed it with the DD-WRT firmware. It works fine as a wireless bridge. Fry's dropped that brand, but there are a bunch of wireless routers compatible with DD-WRT or similar projects like the Tomato Router. The most common one to use is a Linksys WRT54G, although only certain version numbers can be used. Used WRT54G units are common enough that I see them for $10 pretty often. This may be getting off-topic, so feel free to contact me off-list for any details on those projects. This may be a bit geeky for a Mac user, but it is not really difficult. Good day, Ralph On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 12:26 -0400, Chance Reecher wrote: Yes, they have them, and they're called Wireless Bridges. But they cost about 50$, and for that amount of money you could get an AirPort card for your mac and a WiFi router. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Paulpper...@gmail.com wrote: Rather than struggle with a PCI wireless card that might be the wrong chipset (though it works fine in a PC), isn't there a device that's somewhat like a wireless broadband modem/router - wireless and connected to the Mac through the Ethernet port, but without the plug to connect to cable or DSL. Or is that not even theoretically possible? Right now, when I want to get a Mac on the Internet, I disconnect my wireless DSL modem from my PC, and move it to where the Mac is, which has to be near another phone jack. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Thank you, Bruce! I could have asked wiki or google, because I knew they got the names after the pathfinder Ducks. And the robots performed a medical operation on Bruce... Vaguely I recall Bruce Dern doing something on a computer, so there must have been one. Haven't seen Silent Running in decades, so I can't be sure. The robots were called Huey, Dewey and Louie, after Donald Duck's nephews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey,_Dewey,_and_Louie -- Bruce Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about how Time Machine works
On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Tom wrote: Yes, if I can work Time Machine from the Leopard installer disk, you're right, I should be able to restore to both new drives in a single step. What I would do is just install the two new, empty drives, then fire up Time Machine from the installer disk, and tell TM to restore first one disk and then the other. If that's all there is to it, this should be simple. That's all there is to it. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
On 9/4/09 6:10 PM, Ian Prickett ian.prick...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? I manage over 30 of those xServes and they will only take up to a 9200 series. But if I were you I would get a copy of ARD and manage it from your desktop's screen. === Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Desktop Technician (ACDT) Apple Certified Portable Technician (ACPT) Apple Certified System Administrator (ACSA) MCSE Certified Technician CCIE, CCNA, CCSP Certified Technician k...@hansen-technical.com www.hansen-technical.com === --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
On 9/4/09 1:11 PM, Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net Broadcast into the ether: I keep getting invites to fagbook. What is it, is it secure, why do i want it. does it run on macs? This thread is dead. No further posting on this topic is allowed. This always happens on a holiday weekend when the other nannies are gone and one of us are left by our lonesome. Normally I would just email Charles behind the scenes but since there are so many posts on the topic... The term fag is not acceptable for use on these lists. It is considered a derogative sexual connotation for a homosexual human at best. At worst it is a hateful vindictive and evil term for the same group of people. Your use of that term shows your level of sensitivity. It is on par with the N word for African Americans and the C word for a female. If anyone uses any of those terms they will be warned at the least. From the Netiquette page everyone should have read when they signed up. Mom and the nannies are watching. The list managers (the List Owner or mom and List Managers or nannies) have the right to remove posting privileges or ban anyone from the list for vulgarity, trolling, flaming, name calling, threats, or other behavior detrimental to this online community. They also have the right to switch you to moderated mode* for continued violations of the list rules and netiquette; this could escalate to blocking or banning if the infractions continue. Let's try to be polite. There is a large group of people here and out of the 1600 subscribers I am willing to bet that some are of that sexual persuasion and didn't appreciate that post. And no offense to the British, this is an American website so we ask that you use American English. Yes, I know you started the language. Terms such as Torch for flashlight and Boot for the trunk of your Lorrie are acceptable but not the term for a cigarette. Thanks. This thread is dead. No further posting on this topic is allowed. --Kyle Hansen LEM List Manager --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
My G4 seems to be running slow
I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
It would but the tray-load xServe has no media drive. :) I'm going to try installing 10.4/10.5 client on an ADM in the slot load then transfer it into the tray load and see if it boots, anyone know if this will work? Slot load is a 2*1.33 G4, tray load is a 2*1.0 G4. On Sep 5, 1:07 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Ian Prickett wrote: Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks Wouldn't it be better to set it up using the installer disk? You can do that if you are installing OSXServer. If you do you can do the install and set up without needing a video card in the XServe. The button(s) on the front panel control booting from the optical drive and you then use ARD (or Screen Sharing should work too) to set it up. Otherwise you could do it using Firewire TDM to either install from the CD/DVD or clone it from another computer. You can then boot from the XServe disk via TDM and configure it from the computer you did the install from. I once did the install and configure from an iBook with the XServe's HD mounted via FW TDM. It worked real well and I had no trouble after I had the XServe boot normally. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:28 PM, cheryl wrote: I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! You might take a look at applejack and OnyX. google around to see other's experience. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: lock email
I can set up 20 user accounts on my machine but that doesn't solve the bigger problem. J On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Michael J. Amato wrote: I'm talking about a separate computer user account, desktop and all... On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Michael J. Amato wrote: Why not set up a separate user account for the computer complete with password? because it's not just the account on the computer... it's bank accounts, paypal accounts, amazon accounts, ebay accounts you have to have two separate bank accounts to have two paypal accounts... it gets very complicated. I have a hard enough time just keeping track of the accounts I have now.. .. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
I have the LP of the sound track, music by Joan Baez ! On vinyl, of course. Lars On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: Thank you, Bruce! I could have asked wiki or google, because I knew they got the names after the pathfinder Ducks. And the robots performed a medical operation on Bruce... Vaguely I recall Bruce Dern doing something on a computer, so there must have been one. Haven't seen Silent Running in decades, so I can't be sure. The robots were called Huey, Dewey and Louie, after Donald Duck's nephews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey,_Dewey,_and_Louie -- Bruce Johnson _-- One of my favs, but can't remeber either. It seems like he had separate service units at different work area, one even then assumed they would be in a network ( although we may not have known to use the term.) Good trivia question i will run it past the Starbucks council of elders. ( If these guys are the wisest this tribe's in trouble! ) ;) -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: My G4 seems to be running slow
There are 1.8 GHz update cards by Sonnet, but they are astronomically expensive - around 250 $ US they reach on the eBay. I'd like to have one for my G4 b/w/733MHz/1GB and can't afford it. Surely a 'full' disk is a little slower at startup, but not after it's completed. Close any application not needed at the present moment and hope for the best. Lars I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Processor upgrade for pismo??????
I just bought a lot of 6 g3 powerbooks on ebay, one of which is a pismo g3 500MHZ. I know that back in the day there was processor upgrades for them. My question is, is there any still available today? -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Processor upgrade for pismo??????
On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I just bought a lot of 6 g3 powerbooks on ebay, one of which is a pismo g3 500MHZ. I know that back in the day there was processor upgrades for them. My question is, is there any still available today? Rare, but available, scout e-bay. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Slow while surfing the web, working with Photoshop Elements, watching video (didn't used to be choppy, now it is). The games I've been running are supposed to be for a faster processor, 1.8ghz, but I have more memory than required and oddly they work pretty well. On Sep 5, 4:30 pm, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
What kind of video has become choppy? Flash? MP4? H.264? I have a G3 iBook that used to handle Flash video quite well, but that was 2 years ago and through the Flash updates over time it has become unable to play Flash video anymore. Chance On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM, lynechelyh...@gmail.com wrote: Slow while surfing the web, working with Photoshop Elements, watching video (didn't used to be choppy, now it is). The games I've been running are supposed to be for a faster processor, 1.8ghz, but I have more memory than required and oddly they work pretty well. On Sep 5, 4:30 pm, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:16 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: I have the LP of the sound track, music by Joan Baez ! On vinyl, of course. Lars If I let the memory come into my head i will remember the songs. Something haunting and sweet and relevant too. yeah. It will take a while with a slow HD ( IN MY HEAD) but it will load into the front buffer from an ancient drawer in the Amiga Workbench of my brain. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Hi all, Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Hey Cheryl, Have you done any updates lately??? Sometimes when you do software updates the new updates will slow things down... CoolKat -Original Message- From: cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: My G4 seems to be running slow I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Hey Dana, You might have to reinstall it again and choose English for your language... You might have installed it with German checked for your language??? CoolKat -Original Message- From: DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Sep 5, 2009 9:34 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Was is das? Safari in Deutch? Hi all, Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
I remember him pouring over a manual, I think to program the bots to work on his leg. Didn't he also do something so they could act independently? I also seem to remember a computer that handled navigation and the engines that he used to head for Saturn. Nothing with a personality, though. There are card models of the three little guyshttp://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Esf-papercraft/Gallery/Silent/Silent.htmlavailable online, as well as the stacking cargo containers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:34 PM, DLC wrote: Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Hope this was a typo, it's now 10.5.8. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? System PreferencesInternationalLanguage tabEnglish --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Am Sep 5, 2009 um 9:57 PM schrieb Kris Tilford: On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:34 PM, DLC wrote: Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Hope this was a typo, it's now 10.5.8. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? System PreferencesInternationalLanguage tabEnglish In german it is the option Landes einstellung in System Preferences. Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:34 PM, DLC wrote: Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? Opps, I forgot, you're in German, so it's not System Preferences, it's probably Systemeinstellungen, and then International will hopefully be the same? And as Peter said, you don't select as I said, but rather drag the Languages into preferred order, meaning English on top. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Two simple things to try. One is to run some kind of hardware diagnostics. The second is to install your system and one or two main apps on another hard drive and run with just that for a while. If your apps run at their former good speed, that would be a clue. Then if you run Apple Software Update and things slow down, there you go... If it doesn't hurt you, then figure out what other change might have slowed you down. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
How much stuff do you have on your Desktop? Clean It Up ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I am an avid card model builder . I saw these last year. Glad you reminded me of them as they would be a cool Fall weekend project.. Good for a robot theme halloween. Whoever ran the three little guys in the movie did better acting through remote control than some actors do in living flesh. And I say they influenced the creators of Wall-E. He knew a good archetype role when he thought it up. Er, no remote control, just little people in costumes. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Digital Camera
OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera (SS702, got it from a link off this list). So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device connected and Macam does not see the camera either. Here is what Apple System Profiler says about the camera: USB 1.1 Device: Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Jeilin Product ID: 0x0227 Vendor ID:0x0979 Here is the info off the camera itself: Model Number: 16380 Sokar International, Inc. 195 Carter Drive Edison, NJ 08817 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Network Problem
On Sep 4, 11:25 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:37 PM -0500 9/4/2009, Fred Thiel wrote: I networked my PowerMac G4 to my G4 eMac with a wireless Belkin router. Both are running OSX 10.4.11 and personal file, DVD and Personal Web sharing are checked on both. I can see the applications that are on my eMac from the PowerMac, but not vice versa. Both folders appear to be in the same place on their respective volumes, on the root level, but I can't figure out how to make the PowerMac Applications accessible from the eMac. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. To see beyond the user directories, you must login to an administrator account. That worked. Thanks a lot, y'all. I'm learning a lot from this group since several others I'm subscribed to have slowed a little. Thanks again Fred --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera (SS702, got it from a link off this list). So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device connected and Macam does not see the camera either. ___ Just throwing out random thought FWIW Ok? Does the cam have a removable card? If you take it out does iASP say the same thing? If so; Dirty card edge or slot? If ASP sees the cam why does it ( OS X ) not *go* to the cam? H!? Cable dirty on 1 connector only? Try cleaning all USB Ports and both ends of cable? Or; Worn or frayed cable? Interior wear or breakage unseen from outside. Try connecting other device with that cable? See if *IT* works. Is the camera battery fully charged? Mine won't transfer pics without full battery power. Dirty battery terminals. I would love to know if any of my guesses are correct. Good luck, -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
