Re: Mac Retro Anyone?

2009-10-02 Thread Nathan Templeton

Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:


 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:31 AM, spiceyweasel spiceywea...@yahoo.com 
 mailto:spiceywea...@yahoo.com wrote:


 I don't know about the rest of you, but I find my old trusty G4 tower
 and green, see-through iMac G3 to be more aesthetically pleasing than
 the newer, metallic offerings from Apple. Further, I am dismayed by
 the fact Apple has turned it's back on it's plastic past and not
 allowed we, the retro-digging users, to share the benefits of an Intel
 processed machine. Is it asking too much of Apple to release mother
 boards that fit our machines with some of the technical savvy their
 metal wrapped cousins enjoy? I'm not asking for something that will
 put my Power Mac G4 on par with a Mac Pro, but it would be nice to
 compete with a mini AND still have a little room for expansion. Give
 me a 2GHz Intel with, let's say.8GB of RAM, space for three hard
 drives, perhaps dual layer super drive support or, better still Blu
 Ray capability? Am I asking too much, really? I think it would open a
 whole new stream of revenue for Apple and make a lot of die hard old
 Mac fans very happy. Heck, I even came up with an ultra mod, way cool
 logo! Come on Steve Jobs, let's do this!


 I to am a Dreamer myself, and have wondered aloud here  why not'. To 
 be inundated by the realists refutation of any such scheme. The 
 Corporate Church must not be expected to give boons to the devotees.
 Many on LEM will be happy to bore you with good rational reasons why 
 this will idea of Intel mobos for old Macs will NEVER happen. I will 
 let them work their magic in peace.

 Perhaps though you would give some attention and money to plop a Mini 
 mobo or whatever you can afford  used into one of your beloved Macs 
 and be proud of the accomplishment.





  
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All interesting stuff, and I have to say I'm a fan of older macs myself. 
This dual G4/450 I'm on right now is that fastest mac I've ever owned. 
Started with an SE/30 that I still have now. If you really want to get 
the best out of your older macs, I hate to say it but leave Mac OS behind.
Right now I have ubuntu 8.04 installed, with FluxBox as a WM.. It's not 
going to win any speed contests against a modern day mac, though even 
with 4 virtual desktops it's quite usable and much more responsive that 
when I had 10.4.11 on here..

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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,
  Good for her.  That is a lovely little machine and worth some trouble
to get working.  I am thrilled with my new(to me) G3 notebook.  The next
2 machines I want are the machine your mother-in-law has and a G5 tower.
Since you have a new hard drive, try an experiment.  Install Tiger on
the machine and see if your applications run in Classic mode.  Tiger is
supposed to support that fairly well and I think you said you had a
Tiger disk to try.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 11:18 -0700, Tom wrote:
 My mother-in-law, an elderly and stubborn lady (though nice) refuses
 to give up her old 1 GHz iMac (the half-soccer-ball novelty with the
 little monitor-on-a-stem sticking out of it) even though it dates from



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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread Taner Sezer

hi,
as an option, ide disks have limit capacity jumppers on. you can try  
to put a jumper on and then try if disk utility can format the drive  
with install 9 drivers option.
afaik, old iMacs had the same thing with disks greater than 128 GB's.


On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Tom wrote:


 Thanks, Yersinia and Taner. Well, I can start the old iMac up with the
 10.4 installer disk, and then use its Disk Utility to format the new
 drive, but no matter how I try it (either Erase or Partition), I am
 not given any option to install any OS 9 drivers. It just doesn't
 offer that option. Am I missing it somewhere? Where should I look for
 it?

 And by the way, this old iMac does see the new drive as a 500 gig, or
 rather 460 or something.

 Tom
 


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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Tom wrote:

 Thanks, Yersinia and Taner. Well, I can start the old iMac up with the
 10.4 installer disk, and then use its Disk Utility to format the new
 drive, but no matter how I try it (either Erase or Partition), I am
 not given any option to install any OS 9 drivers. It just doesn't
 offer that option. Am I missing it somewhere? Where should I look for
 it?

In the Partition tab you'll need to use the Options to select  
Apple Partition Map partition scheme (the new HD is PC FAT32  
format - called MS DOS in Disk Utility - this is why you don't get the  
OS 9 driver option). Then you'll need to select 1 partition (or two if  
you're going to install OS X  OS 9 on separate partitions). Then  
you'll need to select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and check the  
small box Install OS 9 drivers. Quit Disk Utility and install OS X.  
Then install OS 9, and you're done. If you're using separate  
partitions, make the OS 9 partition small, only a couple GB at most,  
you can even get by with 1 GB or even 500 MB if necessary. You can  
install both OS X  OS 9 onto a single partition, probably the best  
option for normal usage.

 And by the way, this old iMac does see the new drive as a 500 gig, or
 rather 460 or something.

It should, there's no 128 GB limit, it should see the full size, which  
is ~460 GB or so.



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Re: Mac Retro Anyone?

2009-10-02 Thread Nestamicky

On 10/2/09 12:36 AM, Nathan Templeton wrote:
 I hate to say it but leave Mac OS behind.
 Right now I have ubuntu 8.04 installed, with FluxBox as a WM.. It's not
 going to win any speed contests against a modern day mac, though even
 with 4 virtual desktops it's quite usable and much more responsive that
 when I had 10.4.11 on here..

You don't have to say it. I left Leo behind myself. And I doubt, except 
for fun...to see how things are when I have plenty time, mind you since 
it came out, I still have not found that time yet. Anyway, I think Tiger 
was the last best thing and everything after has been fluff. I know 
plenty will disagree and that's fine.

Please write me off list and say how you which flavor of Linux you have. 
I have a spare Sawtooth here I could put to use in that regard.

And as regards putting an Intel board in a Sawtooth, for instance, if 
you have it, do it, send pictures and I'm sure you'd have followers.

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Re: Camera Driver help

2009-10-02 Thread Len Gerstel

On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Ted Treen wrote:



 From: Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 3:41:51 PM
 Subject: Camera Driver help


 Just got a new digital camera (Fuji FinePix A220) and it is really
 messing with my work flow and I'm hoping for some help. Running
 10.4.11 on a DA.

 Both of my older cameras (the Nikon I just replaced and a floppy  
 disk/
 memory stick based Sony Mavica) would show up on my desktop as soon
 as I plugged them into a usb port. I would then browse the memory
 card just like a HD and drag off the photos I needed.

 Hi Len,

 Use a USB card reader - it saves hammering your camera's battery as  
 well.

 HTH

 Ted

I have an old Lacie that does not see the card at all. The card in  
the camera is a SDHC 8GB card. My old 2GB standard card from the  
Nikon shows up using the reader I have, but I can not see all the  
files on it.

Maybe a more modern reader will help. I will keep an eye out.

Len


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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread beecaretaker



On Oct 2, 5:31 am, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote:
 Thanks, Yersinia, but that option, to install the OS 9 drivers, is not
 offered by the Disk Utility that is on the Tiger Installer. So I dug
 around in my old disc collection and found a 10.1 installer disk, but
 discovered on starting up with it that it has no Utilities menu on it
 at all. It cannot erase and format a drive, it can only install 10.1.

 However,  I accidentally let it install 10.1 on this iMac's hard drive
 (once it got started, there was no way to stop it, and I was afraid to
 just shut the Mac off, so I let it do the install and figured I'd
 erase the disk later), and when I opened the Disk Utility on the
 installed 10.1 System, it DID offer to erase the disk and install the
 OS-9 drivers. However, the erase and format options were all grayed
 out, because Disk Utility cannot erase and format the disk that it's
 running from, the startup disk.

 So the situation we have here is this: the Tiger installer disk
 doesn't offer the option of OS-9 drivers. The 10.1 installer disk has
 no Disk Utilities on it, but after you install 10.1, its Disk
 Utilities DOES offer the 9 drivers, but you can't do it because it's
 the startup disk and it can't operate on itself.

 Now, I do have some external hard drives, and my first thought was to
 install 10.1 on one of them and then start up the iMac with it and
 format the Mac's internal drive that way, but all my external drives
 already have 10.4 on them, and you can't install an earlier version of
 OS-X over a later version.

 So, I'm stymied for a way to get the OS  9 drivers. Any ideas?

 Tom


Tom,
If you only want classic support within OS X then you don't need the
OS 9 drivers, you only need them if you want to BOOT into OS 9,
Classic will work fine without them.
Also you don't need to partition your HDD, 9  X will both live
happily side by side on the one partition either as classic or dual-
boot.
Also see Chris Tilfords post about partition maps, This threw me once,
I could not understand why my Apple partitioned drive would not boot,
then almost by accident I found that the partition table was fat32
with an Apple partition on-top of it!!
Good luck, they are nice machines, Although I have an Intel iMac I
still use my 800MHZ G4 iLamp running 10.5 (Used the open firmware
hack to install) .
Ben.
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Re: Camera Driver help

2009-10-02 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:


 I have an old Lacie that does not see the card at all. The card in
 the camera is a SDHC 8GB card. My old 2GB standard card from the
 Nikon shows up using the reader I have, but I can not see all the
 files on it.

 Maybe a more modern reader will help. I will keep an eye out.

I just had the very same problem (my old card reader wouldn't read the  
new 4gb SDHC card I got), picked up a new reader from Computer Geeks  
for $13 including shipping. http://tinyurl.com/yfn6x6d

Had I looked at the Big Lots where I got the card, I may have been  
able to find a reader for less; thought they're spotty on supply,  
obviously. Local dept stores and electronics places all wanted $20-$30  
or so.

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Re: PPC Genealogy Software

2009-10-02 Thread Michael McMurtrey
I use Personal Ancestry Writer II; it's a great program and is  
updated frequently. Best of all, it's free!

http://www.lanopalera.net/Genealogy/AboutPAWriter.html


Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, Texas


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Re: Camera Driver help

2009-10-02 Thread Clark Martin

Len Gerstel wrote:
 Just got a new digital camera (Fuji FinePix A220) and it is really  
 messing with my work flow and I'm hoping for some help. Running  
 10.4.11 on a DA.
 
 Both of my older cameras (the Nikon I just replaced and a floppy disk/ 
 memory stick based Sony Mavica) would show up on my desktop as soon  
 as I plugged them into a usb port. I would then browse the memory  
 card just like a HD and drag off the photos I needed.
 
 The Fuji does not. You need to import using iPhoto, Image Capture or  
 Graphic Converter, then save. Since I have so many different folders  
 that I need to save photos to, it is easiest for me to browse the  
 memory card directly in the Finder, drag the photos to where they  
 need to go, then work on them from there.
 
 When I connect the camera I see the following:
 
 USB PTP:
 
Version:   1.00
Bus Power (mA):100
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Product ID:0x01fe
Serial Number: 592D3031090824C5559UB21118
Vendor ID: 0x04cb
 
 PTP stands for Picture Transfer Protocol. Wikipedia says it is  
 supported by Apple, but I am guessing at the iPhoto level, not OS.
 

Correct

Use a flash card reader.  For cameras that only support PTP this is the 
only way to access the pictures as on a disk.



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Re: Camera Driver help

2009-10-02 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:

 Maybe a more modern reader will help. I will keep an eye out.

Instead, you'll save a LOT of time if you keep an eye out for a USB  
2.0 PCI card instead of using that 12 Mbps USB 1.1 internal USB port.  
The lack of USB 2.0 could possibly be the ENTIRE problem you're having  
with getting the camera  card recognized by the OS?


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Re: Camera Driver help

2009-10-02 Thread Len Gerstel


On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


 On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:

 Maybe a more modern reader will help. I will keep an eye out.

 Instead, you'll save a LOT of time if you keep an eye out for a USB
 2.0 PCI card instead of using that 12 Mbps USB 1.1 internal USB port.
 The lack of USB 2.0 could possibly be the ENTIRE problem you're having
 with getting the camera  card recognized by the OS?

I have a 2.0 card that did not work. I just plugged into my keyboard  
to get the system profiler info off of it.

Len

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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote:

 Does anyone on this list know how to open  a sit.torrent
 download?
 I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
 Thanks
 Wm.


.sit files are commonly opened with Stuffit Expander.  Should be a
free download for that .
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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread Gus

I am wondering if you don't mean bit torrent??  I know vuze makes a
client that is fairly stable under ox X 10.4.  If you do mean the
old .sit files go to version tracker and look up stuffit expander.  I
believe they have a free utility for unstuffing those files.

Good Luck!!

On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote:
 Does anyone on this list know how to open  a sit.torrent
 download?
 I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
 Thanks
 Wm.
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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote:


 I am wondering if you don't mean bit torrent??  I know vuze makes a
 client that is fairly stable under ox X 10.4.  If you do mean the
 old .sit files go to version tracker and look up stuffit expander.  I
 believe they have a free utility for unstuffing those files.

 Good Luck!!

 On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote:
  Does anyone on this list know how to open  a sit.torrent
  download?
  I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
  Thanks
  Wm.
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the bit torrent download.
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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread Tom

SUCCESS! Thanks very much Ralph, Taner, Kris, and Ben. It's very good
of you all to take the time to help me out here. Ralph, you're right,
the more I fool around with this little Mac the more fond I'm getting
of the thing. I like the way the monitor swivels around so smoothly
into any position or angle and stays put. It's too small a screen for
me, though, since I've become accustomed to the 24-inch LCD attached
to my G5. You get spoiled.

Taner, thanks for the info, but I didn't have to mess with any jumpers
on the drive because, thanks to Kris' advice, I was able to find the
OS-9 drivers and format the drive with them.

Kris, you were right about how to find the OS-9 drivers within the
Partitions tab in Disk Utility, but it was not on the 10.4 installer
disk; I had to go back to the 10.2 installer to find it, but there it
was. So I formatted the drive with it (1 Partition) using the 10.2
installer disk, and then I installed OS-X with the 10.4 installer
disk.

After 10.4 was up and running, I just put in a disk I have here called
9.2.2 Installer, and it put 9.2.2 on the drive too, no problem.

Then I launched Classic, chose the OS-9 folder when it asked for it,
and now Classic runs fine! The lady should now be able to run all her
old OS-9 programs in Classic, just like before.

Ben, you're probably right about the 9 drivers not really being
necessary, but they're on there now anyway, just in case they're ever
needed. I haven't yet tried to reboot the Mac into pure OS-9, but
maybe it's possible now, if it were ever required for some reason.

NOW, I've got one last question for anybody who might have an answer:
We are in the process of putting all the lady's data back on the
drive, from a backup that was made onto an external drive when the old
internal drive began to go flakey. She had been running 10.4 before
the hard drive failure, and all the OS-X folders that were in the
system she was using are there on the backup drive. Is it possible for
us to restore all her e-mail addresses, Safari bookmarks, and other
such stuff by merely replacing folders on her new system with folders
dragged over from the old backed-up system? I mean, for example, can I
trash her new Users folder and then drag the old Users from the backup
over to the new System, and will the new system then recognize and use
that old folder with all its information? Ditto with Applications,
Library, etc? Or will I maybe corrupt the new system by trying to
splice in pieces of the old one? Is it better (and safer) for her to
just reconstruct her old information by putting it in manually?

Tom
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Re: PPC Geneaology software - what's best?

2009-10-02 Thread Al Poulin

On Oct 1, 10:08 am, Michael Emery mem...@texas.net wrote:
 On Sep 30, 1:31 pm, Dan Usmar usma...@gmail.com wrote:

     I've heard good things about Reunion...

 Here's another such report, Dan. I've been using Reunion since version
 2 when it was based on HyperCard, and now I'm using the latest version
 9. To borrow Volvo's catch phrase, Reunion for life!

My wife and I use Reunion very happily.  Aside from the excellence,
power, and features of the software package, the folks who participate
in the ReunionTalk forum are an excellent help in all things
genealogy.  The forum is very friendly and helpful with newbie
questions.  You cannot go wrong with Reunion.

Run a Google search on mac genealogy software reviews, and read some
of the web content.  Beyond that, Dick Eastman has an interesting
review on MacFamilyTree version 5.6 at:
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/07/macfamilytree-version-56.html#more
The price is attractive, but I cannot assess its video graphics
requirement, which seem quite advanced, against what is in your
iBook.  Check the Profiles at lowendmac.com for your specific iBook.
Eastman has also written very favorable reports on Reunion through the
years.  His latest annual review of Mac genealogy software is:
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/06/genealogy-programs-for-the-macintosh.html#more

Al Poulin
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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread McGrude

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote:
  Does anyone on this list know how to open  a sit.torrent
  download?
  I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
  Thanks
  Wm.
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 A bit torrent can be used to download any file format. He asked to open a
 .sit file. I assume if he  knows it is a .sit file then he has already done
 the bit torrent download.

Reread what he said Wallace.  He said sit.torrent. .torrent
was the file extension and sit was the file name.
He didn't ask how to open a .sit file.

 - Mike

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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

2009-10-02 Thread Al Poulin

On Oct 2, 7:19 pm, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote:

 NOW, I've got one last question for anybody who might have an answer:
 We are in the process of putting all the lady's data back on the
 drive, from a backup that was made onto an external drive when the old
 internal drive began to go flakey. She had been running 10.4 before
 the hard drive failure, and all the OS-X folders that were in the
 system she was using are there on the backup drive. Is it possible for
 us to restore all her e-mail addresses, Safari bookmarks, and other
 such stuff by merely replacing folders on her new system with folders
 dragged over from the old backed-up system? I mean, for example, can I
 trash her new Users folder and then drag the old Users from the backup
 over to the new System, and will the new system then recognize and use
 that old folder with all its information? Ditto with Applications,
 Library, etc? Or will I maybe corrupt the new system by trying to
 splice in pieces of the old one? Is it better (and safer) for her to
 just reconstruct her old information by putting it in manually?

Depending on your method of backing up to the external drive, you may
be able to operate with the user files that are on it to check things
out and gain confidence in the next step.  In any case, I would then
put the new Users folder in a safe place, maybe in the Trash but not
to empty it.  Copy the old Users to the new internal drive, and the OS
should be happy with everything.  Look in the old Users Library
Folder.  There you should find the Mail folder with all e-mail boxes
and addresses, and the Safari .plists with bookmarks.

If you have problems with the mail, then remove the Mail folder that
you copied over from the Users Library, go back to the Mail folder on
the external drive, copy that to the Desktop, and then have Mail
import from that copy.

Al Poulin
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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread Wm. Arnold

Hi Wallace,
Thanks for your response, I got what I wanted.
This is a neat list.
Regards
Wm.

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 From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: opening a sit.torrent download
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 7:15 PM
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:40 PM,
 Gus gusr...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 I am wondering if you don't mean bit torrent??  I know
 vuze makes a
 
 client that is fairly stable under ox X 10.4.  If you do
 mean the
 
 old .sit files go to version tracker and look up stuffit
 expander.  I
 
 believe they have a free utility for unstuffing those
 files.
 
 
 
 Good Luck!!
 
 
 
 On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net
 wrote:
 
  Does anyone on this list know how to open  a
 sit.torrent
 
  download?
 
  I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
 
  Thanks
 
  Wm.
 
  
 
 
 

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Re: opening a sit.torrent download

2009-10-02 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:57 PM, McGrude mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
 fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote:
   Does anyone on this list know how to open  a sit.torrent
   download?
   I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11.
   Thanks
   Wm.
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  A bit torrent can be used to download any file format. He asked to open a
  .sit file. I assume if he  knows it is a .sit file then he has already
 done
  the bit torrent download.

 Reread what he said Wallace.  He said sit.torrent. .torrent
 was the file extension and sit was the file name.
 He didn't ask how to open a .sit file.


Seems he meant .sit from his last post.
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