Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On 2/12/10 12:39 AM, Bill Connelly at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: open your System Library CoreServices Menu Extras and double click on Eject.menu item Thanks for the tip, man! I though Apple had dropped this kind of utility... -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Søndag, 14/2 2010, 04:14, Ken Daggett wrote: On 14 Feb 2010, at 02:06:41 PST, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: out of the blue (at least it seems that way to me) I can't print to my samsung color laser printer, but get an error message: recoverable: Unable to connect to printer; will retry in 30 seconds...: Operation timed out - copied from the cups webpage at: http://127.0.0.1:631/printers snmpget: Failure in sendto (Host is down) snmpget: Timeout (Host is down) snmpget: Failure in sendto (Host is down) snmpget: Timeout (No route to host) snmpget: Failure in sendto (Host is down) - Seems to be trying to tell you the printer is not there. Have you checked all the cables? Ken DUH! - not really - saw the cable was there, and assumed (don't do that ;-)), since the cups found it, and since I could ping to it, that it was okay... but it wasn't - the cables was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Pic question
No condemnations please I just want to save the pics from this site and so far Safari and Firefox don't seem to be able to do so http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7222508/Palestinians-dressed-as-the-Navi-from-the-film-Avatar-stage-a-protest-against-Israels-separation-barrier.html -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Well, I think it is not *exactly* that way...;-) The most important thing to remember is that non-VIA USB 2.0 PCI cards (like the NEC I am using here) will do work on Mac OS 9, because these cards are backward-compatible. Obviously there is no support for high-speed data transfers under OS 9, but the card and the ports will work normally as USB 1.1. And AFAIK, non-VIA FireWire-USB combo cards are compatible Mac OS 9, too. That's great to know. I only have experience with the VIA Combo card that isn't backwards compatible to OS 9, and also isn't very good in OS X. I wouldn't recommend a VIA card, but it kinda works ok if you have the additional software. I've heard the Adaptec combo card is good, but I've never used one. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:02 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: the cable was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious When stuff I have stops working, I look for my cats. They know exactly what they did, but they never confess anything. If you have cats, look no further for the culprit. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: No condemnations please I just want to save the pics from this site and so far Safari and Firefox don't seem to be able to do so http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7222508/Palestinians-dressed-as-the-Navi-from-the-film-Avatar-stage-a-protest-against-Israels-separation-barrier.html These slideshows are getting harder and harder to get the photos. I looked in SafariWindowActivity and found this for these photos: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/avatar_1577367i.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/vertical_1577368i.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/wounded_1577378i.jpg You can drag these photos off onto your Desktop to save it. You can find all the others if you change the photo using the Next tab and then look in the Activity window for similar addresses from i.telegraph.co.uk. The ones with i at the end are the large photos, the ones with j are the tiny thumbnails. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On 15/02/2010, at 10:58 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: No condemnations please I just want to save the pics from this site and so far Safari and Firefox don't seem to be able to do so http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7222508/Palestinians-dressed-as-the-Navi-from-the-film-Avatar-stage-a-protest-against-Israels-separation-barrier.html These slideshows are getting harder and harder to get the photos. I looked in SafariWindowActivity and found this for these photos: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/avatar_1577367i.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/vertical_1577368i.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01577/wounded_1577378i.jpg You can drag these photos off onto your Desktop to save it. You can find all the others if you change the photo using the Next tab and then look in the Activity window for similar addresses from i.telegraph.co.uk. The ones with i at the end are the large photos, the ones with j are the tiny thumbnails. G'day Stephen As a last resort, and if you don't mind low resolution, do a partial screen capture with Command-Shift-4. Regards Santa -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: As a last resort, and if you don't mind low resolution, do a partial screen capture with Command-Shift-4. Or alternatively Grab will do a Selection as a screen grab. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
installing older software
Greetings, Here is the problem: I need to install an old music notation program onto my Dual 500 mgz G4. This computer does not have a disc drive. I have a LaCie external floppy drive that can only read HD floppies. The software I need to install shipped on low density discs. How do I make the installation? Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
HP 870 Cse on iMac G3
Hi All Any one know how to make an HP 870Cse printer work on a iMac G3? 10.4.11 and 9.2.2. Gimp- Print allows 1 copy after 2 garbage copies and then the printer is no longer recognized, like the darn driver fell off. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Mandag, 15/2 2010, 12:36, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:02 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: the cable was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious When stuff I have stops working, I look for my cats. They know exactly what they did, but they never confess anything. If you have cats, look no further for the culprit. :-) yes I do have one - I'll go tell her some things about printers /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On Mandag, 15/2 2010, 12:09, Stephen Conrad wrote: No condemnations please I just want to save the pics from this site and so far Safari and Firefox don't seem to be able to do so http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7222508/Palestinians-dressed-as-the-Navi-from-the-film-Avatar-stage-a-protest-against-Israels-separation-barrier.html ctrl-click the image choose view page info choose media in the dialog window in top part of the window, you'll now have a list of media in the page scroll down to the pic you want click the save as button this is for firefox /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: installing older software
If you can't find the download on the internet maybe you can have someone download it on their desktop and e-mail it to you as an attachment??? Or you might be able to do it from a computer in the Library... -Original Message- From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Sent: Feb 15, 2010 8:00 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: installing older software Greetings, Here is the problem: I need to install an old music notation program onto my Dual 500 mgz G4. This computer does not have a disc drive. I have a LaCie external floppy drive that can only read HD floppies. The software I need to install shipped on low density discs. How do I make the installation? Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: installing older software
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Greetings, Here is the problem: I need to install an old music notation program onto my Dual 500 mgz G4. This computer does not have a disc drive. I have a LaCie external floppy drive that can only read HD floppies. The software I need to install shipped on low density discs. How do I make the installation? Larry Larry, Other than getting a USB floppy, you can make Disk Images of the floppies from a computer with Disk Utility installed. Burn the Disk Images on a CD and transfer them. Disk Images are the equivalent of a physical volume such as hard drive, floppy, etc. You just double click them on your desk top and they act like a floppy. Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: installing older software
I have a working Quadra 950 (33MHz 68040 !!!) equipped with the standard internal floppy drive and with a SCSI cd burner I installed in it. It runs OS 7.6.1 and is just the sort of thing you'll need. Email me and I'll do it for you :-) Are you sure you can run that old s/w on a G4? --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: From: Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com Subject: Re: installing older software To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 9:44 AM On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Greetings, Here is the problem: I need to install an old music notation program onto my Dual 500 mgz G4. This computer does not have a disc drive. I have a LaCie external floppy drive that can only read HD floppies. The software I need to install shipped on low density discs. How do I make the installation? Larry Larry, Other than getting a USB floppy, you can make Disk Images of the floppies from a computer with Disk Utility installed. Burn the Disk Images on a CD and transfer them. Disk Images are the equivalent of a physical volume such as hard drive, floppy, etc. You just double click them on your desk top and they act like a floppy. Dale --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Downgrade from iMac/10.6 to PM G5/10.5
On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Timo V wrote: For the record, I have used MobileMe and Time Machine for a year, now. Never had to use those backups, though, and assume they won't restore anyway! I don't know about Mobile Me, but it's quite easy to restore from a Time Machine backup. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: installing older software
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you sure you can run that old s/w on a G4? Given my luck with older floppy disks, my question would be whether or not the OP is sure that his media can still be read. One of the biggest reasons I stopped using floppy disks completely was less about the form factor or the amount of the data I could store on them ... though that certainly was part of it. It was because I lost confidence that I would always be able to read back what I wrote. Guess there is no way to know other than to just try it though ... -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Downgrade from iMac/10.6 to PM G5/10.5
I had time machine backup, i got powerbook 15 inch 1.67 and restore its 10.5 to the core2duo 17 inch 2.33 without not big problem. now it works.. just i reinstall some applications because of native Intel i wish to use... and some serial input for some programs other than everything is same with my powerbook and core 2 duo macbook pro... But downgrade is not possible IMO, cause probably it wont be PPC programs or hybrid software for PPC. So when you restore 10.6 on PPC, it wont work... But if you install 10.5 on it and afterwards backup and restore it will. I recommend as others backup first your data. And do not use that backup for restore... After backup, downgrade, reinstall 10.5 and backup and try restore on your old Mac. 2010/2/15 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Timo V wrote: For the record, I have used MobileMe and Time Machine for a year, now. Never had to use those backups, though, and assume they won't restore anyway! I don't know about Mobile Me, but it's quite easy to restore from a Time Machine backup. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote: On 2/9/10 7:38 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige. With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card, one for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card. If you boot OS 9, the USB card MUST be an OHCI USB 1.1 card, which means that for OS X you'll probably want a combo card with USB 2.0 Firewire 400 in one card. Well, I think it is not *exactly* that way...;-) The most important thing to remember is that non-VIA USB 2.0 PCI cards (like the NEC I am using here) will do work on Mac OS 9, because these cards are backward-compatible. Obviously there is no support for high-speed data transfers under OS 9, but the card and the ports will work normally as USB 1.1. And AFAIK, non-VIA FireWire-USB combo cards are compatible Mac OS 9, too. Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:53 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/23/10 10:41 AM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: My experience is different, since all the Macs I have make a lot of noise. The most silent Power Mac I own is the G5 Late 2005 which has liquid cooling (even though it is the 2.0 GHz single processor (Dual Core) model -- I've read contrary information at everymac.com about the cooling system). Well, my Beige G3 is quite silent, mainly now when it has a 80GB ATA Maxtor HD. The former HD, a 9.1GB Ultra-SCSI IBM, oinked like a mad pig. :-P The iMac DV is quieter :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:38 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/24/10 1:55 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good industrial design should, IMO, include easy-open / access features. Yea, I know - Jobs is anti-user upgrade. But geeze - 90% of the bench time should NOT be taken up by just opening and closing a machine! Apple is somehow schizo in its CPU designs: or it made them VERY EASY to open and upgrade (Centris 660/PowerMac 6100, LC I/II/III/Performa 475, PowerMac 8600/PowerMac Beige G3, Mac G4 Cube, Blue and White G3 and all other minitower CPUs before the G5) or TERRIBILY DIFFICULT to open and upgrade (the original 128k and all other compact all-in-one Macs based on it, the Quadra 840/PowerMac8100/PowerMac 8500, the PowerMac 4400/7220 series, all iMacs in general, MacMinis). The iMac G3 slot-loaders arent hard to open, not as easy as the PowerMacs, but a lot easier than the tray loaders... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 8:24 am Subject: Re: DL DVD burning On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:02 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: the cable was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious When stuff I have stops working, I look for my cats. They know exactly what they did, but they never confess anything. If you have cats, look no further for the culprit. I keep the cables tied up and away from my cat ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On 15 Feb 2010, at 07:31:48 PST, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: ctrl-click the image choose view page info choose media in the dialog window in top part of the window, you'll now have a list of media in the page scroll down to the pic you want click the save as button this is for firefox -- Hey! Cool feature. Good to learn something new this morning! Thanks. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:21 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? I haven't actually played it in its entirety ... did skip around the dvd's menu and it went around as expected. Maybe play the last item in the menu, and see what happens? Would that answer your question? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Mon, February 15, 2010 12:25 pm, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:02 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: the cable was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious When stuff I have stops working, I look for my cats. They know exactly what they did, but they never confess anything. If you have cats, look no further for the culprit. I keep the cables tied up and away from my cat ;) Mine just learned how to use scissors. :P Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
In a message dated 2/15/10 9:29:49 AM, billycarm...@verizon.net writes: On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:21 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? I haven't actually played it in its entirety ... did skip around the dvd's menu and it went around as expected. Maybe play the last item in the menu, and see what happens? Would that answer your question? It can mess up any where. The point here is if you can't get a good DL and you have a playable SL The most likely problem is the burner. I assume the rip is a .iso from MDRP, John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: installing older software
You should be able to buy a used and sometimes new external floppy drive that connects via your USB port. They have been offered for sale from time to time for about $5.00 to $15.00 plus shipping off the L.E.M. swap list. --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: installing older software To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 7:37 AM If you can't find the download on the internet maybe you can have someone download it on their desktop and e-mail it to you as an attachment??? Or you might be able to do it from a computer in the Library... -Original Message- From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Sent: Feb 15, 2010 8:00 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: installing older software Greetings, Here is the problem: I need to install an old music notation program onto my Dual 500 mgz G4. This computer does not have a disc drive. I have a LaCie external floppy drive that can only read HD floppies. The software I need to install shipped on low density discs. How do I make the installation? Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Hard drives seen but not mounting
A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Before I install Panther or Tiger on a drive and run it in the G5 I was hoping someone had some experience with this issue and could offer some guidance. Thank you. m ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iTunes music folder synching
I am trying to consolidate old hard drive and disc back-ups from many years and computers, the biggest issue is the iTunes Music folders. I know I can select them from within iTunes and consolidate, the problem with that is I will get a boatload of duplicates. My question, is there a way to sync these folders (without adding them to the current iTunes library) from within iTunes or would using something like Chronosync or the duplicate function in Drive Genius work on the backed up iTunes Music folders, basically creating a master back-up music folder? Again thanks. m ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
$ problems seems to be the underlying reason in the majority of statements in this thread. Otherwise I suspect most of us would buy new Macs and not regret the move. well, unexpected tax return this year (loss of income took me down a tax bracket) equals a brand new mac mini on my desk. base model, but boy... nice step up from my QS, which I may try to trade for a G4 mini to use on my workbench in the basement for googling and interweb radio ;) (might even try to find an old EyeTV for it) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3). Yes, and I now remember WHY that is. The Beige Macs had an earlier implementation of the PCI bus, and when USB 2.0 came along everyone had moved onto a newer PCI bus standard. The BW was the 1st Mac to get the newer PCI bus, and this is why some cards work in the BW and newer Macs but fail in the Beige and earlier. There is no solution. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, mark ray wrote: Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. Highly unlikely. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Largely BS evidence. Where are the drives coming from? If they're coming from Windows systems they may be NTFS, and if they were unmounted in a 'dirty' state, they may not be mountable with out the force option, which (iirc) Disk Utility does not offer. You need HTFS-3G for OS X: NTFS-3G for OS X http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/ntfs3g.html This also gains you REad/Write access to NTFS volumes. If, after this you cannot mount the volumes, likely there's nothing to mount; reformat 'em and test 'em. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, mark ray wrote: Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. Highly unlikely. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Largely BS evidence. Where are the drives coming from? If they're coming from Windows systems they may be NTFS, and if they were unmounted in a 'dirty' state, they may not be mountable with out the force option, which (iirc) Disk Utility does not offer. You need HTFS-3G for OS X: NTFS-3G for OS X http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/ntfs3g.html This also gains you REad/Write access to NTFS volumes. If, after this you cannot mount the volumes, likely there's nothing to mount; reformat 'em and test 'em. -- Bruce Johnson -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
-Original Message- From: mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:32 am Subject: Hard drives seen but not mounting A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Before I install Panther or Tiger on a drive and run it in the G5 I was hoping someone had some experience with this issue and could offer some guidance. Thank you. m ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com If disk utility sees the drive then DiskWarrior should also. I would run Diskwarrior on them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:34 PM, mark ray wrote: Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. If they were all from Macs or external systems they're either HFS+ or FAT32, not NTFS, you would have to go out of your way to make 'em NTFS. If they're scavenged from Windows systems, though, NTFS is a distinct possibility. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5 Firewire front port bad
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a PM G5 Dual 2.7. The front panel Firewire port seems to have quit. A non powered device when plugged to it shows power but never appears on the desk top nor do powered units. Is this the end of my logic board or something I can fix? Here's an Apple Support article about it as well: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1317 I did the disconnect all wires deal and still the fro FW port does not read a device, however it does produce power. I think I may have figured out that the port is bad. So Do I really have to remove the logic board and power supply to change the front panel board? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pic question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:09 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: No condemnations please I just want to save the pics from this site and so far Safari and Firefox don't seem to be able to do so http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7222508/ Palestinians-dressed-as-the-Navi-from-the-film-Avatar-stage-a- protest-against-Israels-separation-barrier.html I think you can use Grab and save to desktop. FWIW -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, mark ray wrote: I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. * I encountered this problem yesterday. The issue in my case turned out to be insufficient power to the external drive enclosure, which when enhanced with a secondary USB (I assume it might as effectively been through an AC power brick) power supply to the 5 volt DC power receptacle on the enclosure, the seemingly unreadable drive suddenly immediately became readable, and I was then successful in transferring the data on the drive in the enclosure to my new MacBook. In my case, the extra power was supplied by a cable with a USB connector attached to the second USB receptacle on the MacBook, which has the right size cylindrical plug for the drive enclosure's auxiliary power receptacle at the other end. It might be worth note that this same external drive enclosure, containing the same hard drive, when used via FireWire on my PowerBook G4, without any external power supply, is able to boot and operate the PowerBook G4. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Montag 15 Februar 2010N From:MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On 1/21/10 6:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. But on the other side Tiger is still quite usable. It is my everyday OS here, runnning on a non-upgraded Beige G3. By now, the only major softwares that don' run on Tiger that I miss are the newest version of iTunes and Google Chrome. You can add the newest version of QuickTime. Slowly but truely it will become more Applications that don't work on the PowerPC platform in their newer versions. Mozilla is planning to drop Tiger support with their planned 4.0 release... Hopefully Camino will stay in business for the old stuff that is still useful. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Montag 15 Februar 2010N From:MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com YouTube videos here are COMPLETELY out of sync, even when they'e completely downloaded. :-/ Doesn't have anything to do with streaming - the processor just cannot calculate that much because, let's face it, Flash is simply not written to work on so slow machines. If they had wanted it, they would have accomplished it. (They meaning Adobe in this context.) Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Extreme! still worth the trouble for a PCI-only Mac?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: PCI Extreme! still worth the trouble for a PCI-only Mac? Date:Freitag 12 Februar 2010N From:Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Now I see that this hack will no longer work with Tiger 10.4.3 and newer. Well, I'm using 10.4.11 -- so it won't work? No, it works fine with 10.4.11. It didn't work ONLY with 10.4.3. Pardon? It does NOT work with 10.4.3 and newer, at least that's what the developer says at http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8979/pci-extreme! and http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/16006 - it will fully work with Mac OS X 10.4.0 to 10.4.2 though. After you use PCI Extreme you can check it using Quartz Extreme Check. It should also show up in System Profiler as supported. Guess what? I did the patching i.e. I installed PCI Extreme! 3.1 on my Mac OS X 10.4.11 with a little aching in the stomage. (I'm not sure, if ache in the stomage means the same thing in English as it does in German, where it simply says that a person isn't really comfortable with something like a situation, an event or an action.) But 10.4.11 starts up normally, no errors. I still don't have Quartz Extreme, because my graphics card is the original G3 BW version of the ATI Rage 128, running at 68.66 MHz (both processor and memory). The things to remember: 1) you can't mix non-QE video cards with QE cards. For example, no Rage Radeon in the same Mac at the same time. The thing you said earlier, about BOTH an AGP PCI together is also wrong, they work fine together as long as BOTH have QE enabled. If you DON'T use PCI Extreme to enable the PCI card, you lose the QE on the supported AGP card also. 2) remember on the BW Yikes to keep the video card in the special video PCI slot which has twice the bandwidth of the other PCI slots. On a normal PCI slot the best speed you can obtain is the equivalent of 1/2 AGP, but with the special 66MHz slot you can get 1xAGP speed which is fine for QE. 3) check that firmware on your video card first, and update before if necessary. Thanks for your advices. Even though I did the patch now (=installing PCI Extreme) I don't have an acceleration anyway due to the unsupported video card. I also wasn't able to find any newer version of the firmware for the ATI Rage 128, in fact I wasn't able to find any at all. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Extreme! still worth the trouble for a PCI-only Mac?
If you can find one, you'd be QE-happy with an ATI Radeon 7000ME. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 5v power adapters
On 2/15/10 11:21 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 21:00 -0800 2/14/10, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 8:14 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: At 10:07 AM -0700 2/9/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: If the river is too big (high amperage), the water wheel will work just fine, because it'll only use the amount of water that fits in the paddles...the rest of the river flows on by. Ok, if the rest of the river flows on by, does that mean that even if your end use device is drawing .9 amps, the wall wart 'river' is still going to draw 1.2 or 1.5 or whatever amp rating it has, turning the 'excess' to more heat and a slightly higher electric bill? Or is the metaphor breaking down here? Not exactly. The components in a wall wart have a linear response (at least idealized components would), if you reduce the current draw by half, the current going in is reduced by half. The parts are however not ideal but real. That means that the transformer in particular isn't linear. In particular, smaller transformers tend to more quiescent power as a percentage of the total power drawn. Quiescent power is the power the transformer draws with no load. Methinks the metaphor is a bit mis-stated. The hydraulic analogy, as taught in a first course in electrical engineering, would replace the river with the pipe that is connected to a large reservoir. No course in electrical engineering uses the hydraulic analogy, at least none I took. They figure (hope?) by that point you already know enough about electricity. The device using the current is analogous to a water valve with a constant flow rate typical of newer shower heads. The water that's not used never leaves the reservoir but it's still limited by the resistance to flow caused by the pipe. It doesn't flow on by. And modern DC wall-warts, now required in California, typically do not start with a transformer. They are high frequency converters that use a much smaller and more efficient transformer after they convert 60 Hz power to something well above 100 kHz.. Those things are smart enough not to draw current, quiescent power, from the power mains unless that valve between it and the user is open. Switcher still have quiescent power, it's just typically smaller than a linear supply. And. . . Those new-fangled devices typically draw power from the lines in short pulses 120 times per second. That's called harmonic distortion which is illegal in Europe for larger units like ATX power converters in a desktop computer. We'll hear more about that in a while when California gets a bit brighter shade of green. Actually they do it same as a linear power supply. It's not harmonic distortion, it produces harmonic distortion. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 2/14/10 9:38 PM, MaGioZal wrote: Apple is somehow schizo in its CPU designs: or it made them VERY EASY to open and upgrade (Centris 660/PowerMac 6100, LC I/II/III/Performa 475, PowerMac 8600/PowerMac Beige G3, Mac G4 Cube, Blue and White G3 and all other minitower CPUs before the G5) or TERRIBILY DIFFICULT to open and upgrade (the original 128k and all other compact all-in-one Macs based on it, the Quadra 840/PowerMac8100/PowerMac 8500, the PowerMac 4400/7220 series, all iMacs in general, MacMinis). And possibly the most schizo of all, the 7500 and 8500. Both have the same motherboard, the 7500 is a dream to work on, open it up, flip the card slot cover open and lift up the drive / PS chassis and everything is accessable. As opposed to the 8500 where the case is okay to take off but to change memory you need to unplug all the connections to and remove the logic board. I like to think of it as the good case designers vs the evil case designers. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3). Yes, and I now remember WHY that is. The Beige Macs had an earlier implementation of the PCI bus, and when USB 2.0 came along everyone had moved onto a newer PCI bus standard. The BW was the 1st Mac to get the newer PCI bus, and this is why some cards work in the BW and newer Macs but fail in the Beige and earlier. There is no solution. That would not explain it though as the card works fine in OSX on the beige mac ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5 Firewire front port bad
On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:43 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I think I may have figured out that the port is bad. I've not troubleshot a G5 Firewire, but if Apple System Profiler shows only one bus (which mine does), and one port works and the other doesn't, then it's likely a cable or wire connection problem, unless you tried to plug in something backwards (can be done, I've done it), but normally that would kill the FW power with a short circuit, and you say you have power at the port, but no signal. I think the previous advice is more likely to solve this issue. So Do I really have to remove the logic board and power supply to change the front panel board? If you do, I'd use the rear port, after all, Firewire can be daisy- chained to 256 devices. If you have any Firewire devices with only a single port place it on the end of the chain. You could get a Firewire Hub if you need more ports. Much easier than disassembling the whole thing. If you chose disassembly, I'd look for loose cables, wires, connections or blown fuses (fuses on circuit boards are often very tiny) since it appears the Firewire bus is otherwise functional. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G5 iSight, freezes, kernal Panics, mouse/keyboard goes dead at times
What causes my iMac G5 iSight to freezes, have kernal Panics, and have my mouse/keyboard goes dead at times? I ve tried resetting PRAM, reinstalling Mac OS 10.4.2, updating to 10.4.11, I still have these problems. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 iSight, freezes, kernal Panics, mouse/keyboard goes dead at times
On 2/15/10 10:35 PM, Mullin9 wrote: What causes my iMac G5 iSight to freezes, have kernal Panics, and have my mouse/keyboard goes dead at times? I ve tried resetting PRAM, reinstalling Mac OS 10.4.2, updating to 10.4.11, I still have these problems. How regular are these problems? If it's regular enough I would try booting from an installer disk and see if you get the problem. If you do then it's either the memory or the motherboard. If you don't then it's likely the HD. Since you reinstalled the OS it's probably the HD itself is failing. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 iSight, freezes, kernal Panics, mouse/keyboard goes dead at times
How regular are these problems? once every 30 min to 2 hrs. Since you reinstalled the OS it's probably the HD itself is failing. I tested it with Apple test DVD that came with an iMac g5 iSight Results Lobo Passed HDD passed RAM Passed Video RAM Passed -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
