Re: back up generator question
If the output is a sine wave the computer will like it. But if the output is a square wave of modified square wave like from the low end power inverters some electronic freak out or crash or never takeoff like electric motors. Start the generator and test the devices you want to use with it, you will soon find out if going to work. SAFETY FIRST On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.comwrote: You'll probably want to purchase a UPS and a transfer switch as well. http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=165#anchor1 http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=371 You'll also want to make sure that your power is clean from transient surges, so a UPS would be a good thing to have, given that most higher-end UPSes condition the incoming power. Your choice of generator looks OK, but the power rating it provides would probably be a little low for this application. Hope this helps. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:44, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- - James D. Pritchett 15163 S.W. Walker Rd. Apt. G Portland OR, 97006-7106 - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Daisy-chain-ing
On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Quick question Can I daisy chain fw400 fw800 devices together? I have a fw800 hard disk that plugs into the mac via fw800 and it's got a fw400 on the back of it that I'd like to plug my external optical drive into it that's only got fw400? I'm thinking this is fine but Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 That's how one of my setups is I don't think I've seen a FW800 on an optical anyway. I have an external WD with two FW880 ports and I use a 800/400 cable. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
NONSENSE - what you have will work just fine -- you do NOT need anything else. Done this for years!. JML. --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com Subject: Re: back up generator question To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 1:51 PM You'll probably want to purchase a UPS and a transfer switch as well. http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=165#anchor1 http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=371 You'll also want to make sure that your power is clean from transient surges, so a UPS would be a good thing to have, given that most higher-end UPSes condition the incoming power. Your choice of generator looks OK, but the power rating it provides would probably be a little low for this application. Hope this helps. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:44, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Being Steve Jobs' Boss (BusinessWeek article)
An interesting read... Being Steve Jobs' Boss http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_44/b4201096309840.htm - Dan. (quietly eating a mango caterpillar snow cone). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Being Steve Jobs' Boss (BusinessWeek article)
On 10/30/2010 2:37 PM, Dan wrote: (quietly eating a mango caterpillar snow cone). HA HA HA! Someone else who likes Big Bang Theory! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
I'm getting a kernel panic after installing 10.4.11 on a G4 tower. After that it won't reboot. I'm not sure which model it is except that it has 100Mhz bus and it has 832mb of ram. Everything seemed to be going fine until 10.4.11. I started out putting OS9 on it and then OSX then it kernel panicked on me. Would it be possible that the rom has not been upgraded? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
On Oct 30, 2010, at 4:21 PM, smac0031 wrote: I'm getting a kernel panic after installing 10.4.11 on a G4 tower. After that it won't reboot. You need to Safe Boot by holding the shift key at startup. If it panics on the Safe Boot, copy down the panic text if possible. If it boots, simply reboot normally and things should be ok. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
At 14:21 -0700 10/30/10, smac0031 wrote: I'm getting a kernel panic after installing 10.4.11 on a G4 tower. After that it won't reboot. I'm not sure which model it is except that it has 100Mhz bus and it has 832mb of ram. Everything seemed to be going fine until 10.4.11. I started out putting OS9 on it and then OSX then it kernel panicked on me. Would it be possible that the rom has not been upgraded? If this is the first version of OS neXt for the machine it's very likely that the ROM needs the upgrade. Not so if it was running, say, 10.3.x. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:21 PM, smac0031 wrote: I'm getting a kernel panic after installing 10.4.11 on a G4 tower. After that it won't reboot. I'm not sure which model it is except that it has 100Mhz bus and it has 832mb of ram. Everything seemed to be going fine until 10.4.11. I started out putting OS9 on it and then OSX then it kernel panicked on me. Would it be possible that the rom has not been upgraded? The firmware update is probably not installed I can send it off list if you want. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: If this is the first version of OS neXt for the machine it's very likely that the ROM needs the upgrade. On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The firmware update is probably not installed I can send it off list if you want. I'm not an expert on these G4's, but I was pretty certain the OS X installer disc has a system check that prohibits installation of OS X if the firmware isn't properly upgraded? Unless he transfered or cloned a System from another computer it would seem unlikely to be a firmware issue unless I'm wrong about the installer firmware check? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On Oct 29, 1:51 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: Your choice of generator looks OK, but the power rating it provides would probably be a little low for this application. not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? I do have a UPS on my computer and one on our WiFi antenna power. testing sounds right, of course, but I wonder what failure would look like? what are the risks? On Oct 29, 1:51 pm, Jonas Lopes wrote: NONSENSE - what you have will work just fine -- you do NOT need anything else. Done this for years!. That's encouraging. Thanks for all the input. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 wake up issues
Greetings all, Just need a little direction. One of the G5s in our music lab (1.8GHz/DP/June 2004 model) recently went through a nuke-and-pave (as Bruce likes to say :-), putting a new copy of OS 10.5.8 on it. Since then it does not like to wake up if it falls asleep (kind of the opposite of the more common doesn't go to sleep issue), or perhaps more accurately, it *may* wake up but unsuccessfully fires up the monitor. Only recourse is to do a hard shut down and a restart in order to regain functionality. I've reset the board with a battery/power cord pull, pressing the PMU button waiting several minutes and reconnect; and I've zapped the PRAM/ NVRAM with no luck on either. I've not yet booted into single-user mode, thinking that the OS is too new (its only visits on web are to do the Software Updates), but will try that on Monday. Beyond that, any other suggestions/ directions? Thank you in advance for any thoughts. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
And do you have the same generator he does? Or are you familiar enough with the output of the generator he has to make the claim? All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square Wave-producing generators may power lights and freezers just fine, but they will not work well with computers. Unless you are sure what your generator produces (and the only way to really be sure is to hook it up to a scope and look at the resulting wave pattern, or find someone who has done that), you will be much safer getting some kind of a power conditioner. It doesn't have to be anything elaborate. Just something with a voltage regulator in it to eliminate spikes and a filter to convert square waves to sine. Most decent UPSes will do it, or if you're handy with a soldering iron, there are schematics for appropriate circuits on the web. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: NONSENSE - what you have will work just fine -- you do NOT need anything else. Done this for years!. JML. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On 30 Oct 2010, at 17:48:13 PDT, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. -- Don't forget to add in any other devices such as monitor and such. My little 800w Honda does OK, but it takes surprisingly few devices to max it out. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? Well under 800 Watts. Depends on what you are using for a monitor, of course. Per Apple, Mac Mini (without monitor) uses 85-110 Watts. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3468 External hard drive power consumption can be tricky to measure, because under typical patterns of usage, they tend to spin up and down a lot. But even at peak usage, it should consume under 15 watts http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/-external-hard-drive,2045-16.html Add to that whatever monitor you're using. No LCD monitor of standard size should exceed the 675 Watts you have left, or come close to doing so. The article below may help give you an idea of typical values, or you could purchase an inexpensive device called a Kill-A-Watt to get a more accurate reading. I do have a UPS on my computer and one on our WiFi antenna power. testing sounds right, of course, but I wonder what failure would look like? what are the risks? Power Spikes: best case scenario, blown fuse or circuit breaker. worst case scenario; smoke, explosion, and damage to your computer. Square Wave instead of sine: best case scenario: no symptoms. It works just fine. Worst case - equipment simply fails to power up, or does so but doesn't function properly. Never seen equipment seriously damaged because it was fed a square wave instead of a sine - it tends to just not work right. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 wake up issues
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:45 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Just need a little direction. One of the G5s in our music lab (1.8GHz/DP/June 2004 model) recently went through a nuke-and-pave (as Bruce likes to say :-), putting a new copy of OS 10.5.8 on it. Since then it does not like to wake up if it falls asleep (kind of the opposite of the more common doesn't go to sleep issue), or perhaps more accurately, it *may* wake up but unsuccessfully fires up the monitor. Only recourse is to do a hard shut down and a restart in order to regain functionality. I've reset the board with a battery/power cord pull, pressing the PMU button waiting several minutes and reconnect; and I've zapped the PRAM/ NVRAM with no luck on either. I've not yet booted into single-user mode, thinking that the OS is too new (its only visits on web are to do the Software Updates), but will try that on Monday. Beyond that, any other suggestions/ directions? Are there any PCI cards in it? They can cause such a problem. If there are such card(s), try removing them. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. It's unlikely your PM draws 500 W. It's power supply is rated for around that much but actual use is rarely even close to that. I haven't tested any PM G4 but the PM G3 BW I tested drew 67 W. It would be hard to draw 500W, even with the monitor running off the PM's power supply. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
I had an installation not work because of incompatible ram. For sure check the Firmware version. Run AHT. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
Hey Cliff... On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html in hopes of having back up power to run our WiFi ISP antenna, computers and a light or two. But, then I seem recalling that there are possible issues in the type of power a generator provides and the type computers like to receive. Comments and advice appreciated. Cliff There are a few things to consider. A backup generator (or DC to AC invertor) might provide a square wave output that your electronics might not like. I had one such invertor that trashed the PS for my Sony laptop several years ago. I don't know the generator you purchased, but lower end units can provide power with spikes/transients that could play havoc with electronic devices. Using a UPS to filter the output might be a good idea. Not saying you have a problem, just offering a couple of thoughts if you do! We used to have the dreaded rolling blackouts, here in the SF area, a few years ago and I had three huge Fortress UPS units to keep the systems running. Fortunately, those blackouts are a thing of the past. Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
I just got my first MDD... and wow, I'm amazed how good it is. I was expecting something that could barely run leopard like my G4 800 iBook. So not the case. The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with leopard. It'd be a nice bonus if it worked in OS 9 also... preferably at 2.0 speeds... I'm sure others have been down this path... what do I need to buy? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
Try the link belowthis is a Belkin USB PCI F5U220 with 5 ports I've had several of these, works in everything! Yes, in your MDD too:-) you can find them cheaper too http://cgi.ebay.com/BELKIN-Hi-speed-USB-2-0-5-Port-PCI-Card-F5U220-/130443698033?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e5f0cdf71#ht_595wt_887 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Cadeon wrote: I just got my first MDD... and wow, I'm amazed how good it is. I was expecting something that could barely run leopard like my G4 800 iBook. So not the case. The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with leopard. It'd be a nice bonus if it worked in OS 9 also... preferably at 2.0 speeds... I'm sure others have been down this path... what do I need to buy? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Cadeon wrote: The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with leopard. Just be sure to get an OHCI-compliant card. Should work on OS 9 also, but not necessarily at 2.0 speed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:28 AM, Powermac wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? While not in the same league as most of the machines mentioned, I have a Sawtooth that has been running 24/7 for over 5 years. It was my main machine till the Intel iMac followed me home a couple of years ago. ;-) Now doing duty as a file server on the network. Powerlogix 1.6 GHz cpu 2 GB ram 2 x 120 GB HD 500 GB USB drive 4 port USB 2.0 pci card DVD-RW DL Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
The Belkin looks good at $9. Whatever you do, make sure it's 2.0 and not 2.0 compatible. I bought this one from we love macs http://www.welovemacs.com/uh241.html after reading the line Supports USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices at full speed They charged for shipping and of course I'd have to pay return shipping, so I tossed the board aside after finding it was really a 1.0 card. That all, just be careful what and where you buy. On Oct 30, 11:11 pm, Cadeon cadeon...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my first MDD... and wow, I'm amazed how good it is. I was expecting something that could barely run leopard like my G4 800 iBook. So not the case. The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with leopard. It'd be a nice bonus if it worked in OS 9 also... preferably at 2.0 speeds... I'm sure others have been down this path... what do I need to buy? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
