Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 11, 9:44 pm, Dennis Myhand wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... JT It only takes 50milliamps. That isn't a lot as it is. wrong again. 50 mA causes no more than discomfort. it requires a sustained 100-200 mA to induce ventricular fibrillation, and over 200 mA to halt breathing and pose a serious risk of death (quoted directly from a medical text). please scroll up to read a knowledgable contribution to this thread from Jeff Walther. i might add that i too, as a young apprentice to an electrician, once touched a hot 220 feed (unfused, directly from the powerlines) and even though it knocked me to the floor 15 feet from where i was standing, i neither needed nor received any medical attention, and i am still here to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the dangers of electric shocks. furthermore, the total amount of charge stored in a CRT is minimal, and is completely discharged in a millisecond or so. hardly a sustained electrocution. i suppose if someone were soaking wet and standing on their naked left foot on a grounded metal plate connected by metal rods sunk to the level of the water table, and they discharged a just unplugged CRT thru their left hand forcing the momentary current to pass direct thru their heart, there might be a small risk of inducing ventricular fibrillation (which is still not necessarily fatal). the absurdly over-cautious posts in this thread simply confirm the old adage that there is nothing more dangerous than a little bit of knowledge. not even electricity. besides, as the original poster has just added, replacing the HD in an eMac is simple, and unless someone is a complete idiot (in which case a highly improbable death by electric shock would just be one small victory for evolution), it is easily done without ever going near the CRT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On 12/11/2010 9:44 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: It only takes 50milliamps. That isn't a lot as it is. Actually it takes about 500 milliamps. See this page: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/4.html The resistance of dry skin is about 1 megaohm and the crt usually has about 25,000 volts on it which works out to about 2.5 milliamps. Not a pleasant experience but not generally lethal. I've discharged a crt through my hand once, by accident, and suffered no harm except a sore hand and a bout of cursing. That being said, if you're fresh out of the shower and working with both hands at the 2nd anode on the crt I would recommend re-thinking what you are doing. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fink
On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Tina K. wrote: When you say X-Windows, would that be X-11? Yes. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Internet video sourced and display on G4
On Dec 7, 12:08 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately on my PM Hulu's Flash implementation is not as good as YouTube's. The audio is usually out of synch with the video, sometimes the picture freezes while the audio goes on for a couple minutes, and the picture is not very sharp (23 CD). If it played as well as YouTube's videos play these days I would be happier. If they implemented HTML5 I'd be ecstatic. I used to watch Hulu on my 17 PowerBook, but unfortunately they upped the quality and now, well, there you have it. Also unfortunately, they are trying to push their paid Plus service, so they limited their free inventory as well, and I don't think they'll be accommodating older technology, since they're after people's money, people who are paying demand better quality, and there goes the cycle again. Your G5 PM looks like a sweet machine, by the way... :-) F -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Internet video sourced and display on G4
On Dec 7, 1:47 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Dan wrote: Just be careful, the Pie-rate hunters are active...we get passed RIAA and MPAA takedown notices from the UA Copyright office for our subnet every couple of months or so, and they've all involved movie torrents for a couple of years now. Gotta love all the peeps that pirate stuff without using a proxy. What gets me are the ones who do it from home while connected to our VPN...rolls eyes There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. Frank Zappa -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speaker headphones
Jeff; Apple has never used a standard mic input. Their headphone output is a standard 1/8th stereo jack but..the audio input was, for many years, a special jack that was set up for Apple's PlainTalk mic input. It required a PlainTalk headset that had a preamp built into the mic that was powered by a + 5VDC in the Mac. (look up PlainTalk on Wikipedia or Apple). Apple discontinued PlainTalk with the last G4's. The G5's and subsequent have a line Level audio input that requires an external preamp if you intend to use a mic. (actually the early Mac's audio input was line level also, they just boosted the mic signal from mic level to line level all within the headset and special PlainTalk jack. It's a real pain. If you have a G3 - G4 you can probably find a PlainTalk headset on e-bay. I have an old PM 9500 and a G4 with a PlainTalk headset that works just fine. I'm still groping with how to make some kind of headset work with my G5. At this very moment I'm trying build a preamp. I'll probably try USB next if this doesn't work. Jerry. On 12/9/2010 8:27 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: On 12/9/10 11:00 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote: I was looking for a set of headphones with a speaker for VOIP and gaming. Does the front port work with microphone headsets? Has anyone used the 'Optical Audio ports? Or should i go USB or bluetooth? DP 1.8 G5 (June 04) 10.5.8 Jeff When I asked a couple of months back I never received an definite answer. I tried an iMic but it didn't work or it was doa (used). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. Our old family mechanic had a habit of asking you to hand a wrench or other metallic tool while he was holding a plug wire from a running car. Not pleasant but hardly lethal... JT Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d04fb7e5e7a6637dfast04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Internet video sourced and display on G4
On 2010/12/07 10:52, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote: I used to watch Hulu on my 17 PowerBook, but unfortunately they upped the quality and now, well, there you have it. Also unfortunately, they are trying to push their paid Plus service, so they limited their free inventory as well, and I don't think they'll be accommodating older technology, since they're after people's money, people who are paying demand better quality, and there goes the cycle again. Overall I like Hulu and I'd like to see them into a more mainstream method of delivering content, but in the end watching SGU on Hulu and watching it via other sources are two completely different experiences. Your G5 PM looks like a sweet machine, by the way...:-) Thank you! I bought it in February 2008 from BH as BTO NOS, AppleCare and everything. I had a choice between a used 2.3 DC or a new 2.0 DP, decided to go with the warranty. I'm glad I did because the video card has already been replaced and I'm going to take it in for a bad DVD-RW and cleaning, hoping for a DL-DVD replacement. ;-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR OS 10.4.11 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB OS 10.5.8 23 CD PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR OS 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speaker headphones
On 2010/12/09 23:01, Jerry Miller so eloquently wrote: I'm still groping with how to make some kind of headset work with my G5. At this very moment I'm trying build a preamp. I'll probably try USB next if this doesn't work. I have to say it seems silly to waste a perfectly good audio in jack and waste a USB port. Thanks Steve. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR OS 10.4.11 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB OS 10.5.8 23 CD PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR OS 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
At 10:42 AM -0600 12/12/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. Our old family mechanic had a habit of asking you to hand a wrench or other metallic tool while he was holding a plug wire from a running car. Not pleasant but hardly lethal... That's as good as leaving charged capacitors on your work bench, for the hands-on teacher to, um, find, when he was checking your work. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:42 AM -0600 12/12/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. Our old family mechanic had a habit of asking you to hand a wrench or other metallic tool while he was holding a plug wire from a running car. Not pleasant but hardly lethal... That's as good as leaving charged capacitors on your work bench, for the hands-on teacher to, um, find, when he was checking your work. I'd venture a (experienced) guess that a discharge from a high capacity electrolytic could be more hazardous than a CRT or spark- plug discharge. Then there is always the anticipated event when purposely reverse biassing a high capacity electrolytic. Ahhh, the good ol' days! JT DEVELOPING STORY: Samsung 46#34; 3D LED TV for $84.95 BREAKING NEWS: Online Auction site to GIVE away 1,000 LED TVs for ONLY $84.95! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d050b80c9e466b2f2st06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? Altec Lansing BX1221 Cans About $15 at Walmart with Subwoofer about $ 25 The $ 25 set sounds great at low cost. Reproduces pretty much whatever your basic or card pumped sound system output is capable of and does it very well. I found this link in a websearch, the blog shows what they look like. http://hubpages.com/hub/Altec-Lansing-BXR1221-Review -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speaker headphones
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Jerry Miller jerrymil...@cox.net wrote: Jeff; Apple has never used a standard mic input. Their headphone output is a standard 1/8th stereo jack but..the audio input was, for many years, a special jack that was set up for Apple's PlainTalk mic input. It required a PlainTalk headset that had a preamp built into the mic that was powered by a + 5VDC in the Mac. (look up PlainTalk on Wikipedia or Apple). Apple discontinued PlainTalk with the last G4's. The G5's and subsequent have a line Level audio input that requires an external preamp if you intend to use a mic. (actually the early Mac's audio input was line level also, they just boosted the mic signal from mic level to line level all within the headset and special PlainTalk jack. It's a real pain. If you have a G3 - G4 you can probably find a PlainTalk headset on e-bay. I have an old PM 9500 and a G4 with a PlainTalk headset that works just fine. I'm still groping with how to make some kind of headset work with my G5. At this very moment I'm trying build a preamp. I'll probably try USB next if this doesn't work. I have a little plaintalk mic that has no preamp. It is a rounded triangle with a bump and stickum to keep it atop a monitor. The plug is about 1/8 inch and has the extended tip. I have used it but it has been so long ago i forget the working details but am pretty sure I had no problem getting recordings without preamp. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Password protect
I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 drives and I want to block access to three of them. Can I do this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? I have a pair of Logitech LS11 speakers I got at Fry's for $15.00. They are very good and have a convenient out put jack on the front of the right speaker to connect to your stereo if needed and a volume knob. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From PM G5 Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speaker headphones
On Dec 9, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Jerry Miller wrote: Jeff; Apple has never used a standard mic input. Their headphone output is a standard 1/8th stereo jack but..the audio input was, for many years, a special jack that was set up for Apple's PlainTalk mic input. It required a PlainTalk headset that had a preamp built into the mic that was powered by a + 5VDC in the Mac. (look up PlainTalk on Wikipedia or Apple). Apple discontinued PlainTalk with the last G4's. The G5's and subsequent have a line Level audio input that requires an external preamp if you intend to use a mic. (actually the early Mac's audio input was line level also, they just boosted the mic signal from mic level to line level all within the headset and special PlainTalk jack. Never say never. The mic input from the days of the IIsi up till they introduced the PlainTalk mic in the Quadra to 1st Power Mac era was indeed a low level mic input. Quite standard. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On 12/12/2010 10:42 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. Our old family mechanic had a habit of asking you to hand a wrench or other metallic tool while he was holding a plug wire from a running car. Not pleasant but hardly lethal... JT My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the fender, to get out to me. It slapped him across the cab! It seems magnetos put out more juice than coils then. I can still check a plug wire by running it between my fingers while the engine idles. I feel strangely at peace after I do. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MacPorts and Facebook
For those using MacPorts and not running Little Snitch, Facebook seems to think that they need to know what you are installing on your Mac. Little Snitch has intercepted two requests so far for Terminal to contact facebook.net while building kTorrent. I think not. Another entry for etc/hosts. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR 10.4.11 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB 10.5.8 23 CD PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
List Mom request-sorry, again
*sigh* Hi all, Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to reach. Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via this group. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: On 12/12/2010 10:42 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. Our old family mechanic had a habit of asking you to hand a wrench or other metallic tool while he was holding a plug wire from a running car. Not pleasant but hardly lethal... JT My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the fender, to get out to me. It slapped him across the cab! It seems magnetos put out more juice than coils then. I can still check a plug wire by running it between my fingers while the engine idles. I feel strangely at peace after I do. Magnetos? I thought that they went out long before that. My ol' '31 Studebaker President had points/coil ignition! Two coils at that... JT SHOCKING: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,734.09 SHOCKING Report: Brand New Products for up to 95% off? We discover the TRUTH#46;#46;#46; http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d0523b3d57f56c46ecst02duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacPorts and Facebook
On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Tina K. wrote: For those using MacPorts and not running Little Snitch, Facebook seems to think that they need to know what you are installing on your Mac. Little Snitch has intercepted two requests so far for Terminal to contact facebook.net while building kTorrent. I think not. Another entry for etc/hosts. Tina While I don't do social sites, I sure like Little Snitch. Best part is once you identify an unwanted connection, you can disable it forever! JT How to Stay Asleep Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d052438cf9d0643421st03duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
Thanks. Im looking at them now. On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? Altec Lansing BX1221 Cans About $15 at Walmart with Subwoofer about $ 25 The $ 25 set sounds great at low cost. Reproduces pretty much whatever your basic or card pumped sound system output is capable of and does it very well. I found this link in a websearch, the blog shows what they look like. http://hubpages.com/hub/Altec-Lansing-BXR1221-Review -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
Thank you. I actually saw those while looking at the BX1221 (on amazon) suggested by another person. Both are similar in price and seem to be just what I am looking for. On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:24 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? I have a pair of Logitech LS11 speakers I got at Fry's for $15.00. They are very good and have a convenient out put jack on the front of the right speaker to connect to your stereo if needed and a volume knob. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From PM G5 Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
I spent a little more on a set of Logitech Z-323, and have been pleasantly surprised at the quality of output from a £35 purchase. That equates to around US$55, but I'd bet they're a damn sight cheaper in the US than in the UK. Everything else is... Ted Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Thanks. Im looking at them now. On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com mailto:guz...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? Altec Lansing BX1221 Cans About $15 at Walmart with Subwoofer about $ 25 The $ 25 set sounds great at low cost. Reproduces pretty much whatever your basic or card pumped sound system output is capable of and does it very well. I found this link in a websearch, the blog shows what they look like. http://hubpages.com/hub/Altec-Lansing-BXR1221-Review -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com mailto:fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: List Mom request-sorry, again
On 12/12/10 2:58 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM, DLC dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: *sigh* Hi all, Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to reach. Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via this group. If all else fails post to the list with Nanny help needed or some-such tags in the subject line. It is hard to keep up with who manages which list and always has been. They announce themselves often and some go on to other things unannounced leaving the impression they are still active. No coherent list exists except in the halls of LEM and they're not sharing. At least to my knowledge. Hi Wallace, Thanks for the response. I tried your advice and posted such a note on the Swap list. Let¹s see what happens. Thanks again, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
(in which case a highly improbable death by electric shock would just be one small victory for evolution) Ah-clem, I'm starting to enjoy you. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacPorts and Facebook
On 2010/12/12 12:36, James Therrault so eloquently wrote: While I don't do social sites, I sure like Little Snitch. You hear about Facebook's security transgressions regarding their members from time to time, but Facebook's activities outside of their own domain seem to get little notice. There was a time when some people thought the only use for Little Snitch was for pirating sw, but I'm sure glad to have it in this day of personal information harvesting and theft. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR OS 10.4.11 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB OS 10.5.8 23 CD PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR OS 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No connection found
On 2010/12/12 13:05, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio so eloquently wrote: Several tries in different ways could not find anything with a URL of facebook.net http://facebook.net or www.facebook.net http://www.facebook.net. That is strange, I rechecked Little Snitch and the connection request was indeed for facebook.net. One way or the other it's not gonna happen lol. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR OS 10.4.11 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB OS 10.5.8 23 CD PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR OS 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No connection found
Tina K. wrote: On 2010/12/12 13:05, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio so eloquently wrote: Several tries in different ways could not find anything with a URL of facebook.net http://facebook.net or www.facebook.net http://www.facebook.net. That is strange, I rechecked Little Snitch and the connection request was indeed for facebook.net. One way or the other it's not gonna happen lol. Tina Sure, but Google facebook.net and there are some interesting returns, which I don't have the time to fully investigate - but I still don't feel inclined to trust in anything Facebook... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On 12/12/2010 1:34 PM, James Therrault wrote: My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the fender, to get out to me. It slapped him across the cab! It seems magnetos put out more juice than coils then. I can still check a plug wire by running it between my fingers while the engine idles. I feel strangely at peace after I do. Magnetos? I thought that they went out long before that. My ol' '31 Studebaker President had points/coil ignition! Two coils at that... JT It was an old Ma Bell Line truck. Sucker had heavy duty everything. 4 inch channel iron for bumpers, welded directly to the frame, big flat head 6, DU model. Was rated at 1.5 ton. Damn I wish we still had that truck. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
The thing must've had terrible gas milage. On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: On 12/12/2010 1:34 PM, James Therrault wrote: My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the fender, to get out to me. It slapped him across the cab! It seems magnetos put out more juice than coils then. I can still check a plug wire by running it between my fingers while the engine idles. I feel strangely at peace after I do. Magnetos? I thought that they went out long before that. My ol' '31 Studebaker President had points/coil ignition! Two coils at that... JT It was an old Ma Bell Line truck. Sucker had heavy duty everything. 4 inch channel iron for bumpers, welded directly to the frame, big flat head 6, DU model. Was rated at 1.5 ton. Damn I wish we still had that truck. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RJ45 Aggravation
I don't know if this counts as off topic or not. I just wasted 2 hours and a package of RJ45 ethernet wall plugs. I couldn't get any of them to work. The existing network used to work, but when I tried these wall plugs I could never get more than three of the four pairs to work. I have a decent punch down tool and a little circuit tester which when you plug in the new cable it sequentially tests each pair. It did work before, but now its fixed so it doesn't work. I wanted to make it look nice. Now it doesn't work or look nice. Any ideas. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Since this was the time when gas in California was 14.9 cents per gallon, we didn't really pay much attention to the mileage a vehicle got. On 12/12/2010 5:33 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: It was an old Ma Bell Line truck. Sucker had heavy duty everything. 4 inch channel iron for bumpers, welded directly to the frame, big flat head 6, DU model. Was rated at 1.5 ton. Damn I wish we still had that truck. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RJ45 Aggravation
On 12/12/2010 6:06 PM, smac0031 wrote: I couldn't get any of them to work. The existing network used to work, but when I tried these wall plugs I could never get more than three of the four pairs to work. I have a decent punch down tool and a little circuit tester which when you plug in the new cable it sequentially tests each pair. It did work before, but now its fixed so it doesn't work. I wanted to make it look nice. Now it doesn't work or look nice. Any ideas. Hi Mark: which scheme were you using, 568 A or B? If you wired up the network plug using 568A and the cables are B (most common I have seen. Please don't ask why. I don't know and don't care), it will not work. You need to use the same scheme cables as the wall plugs. There are a number of sites on the web which can show you the proper color sequence for each scheme. One is here: http://www.clohwireless.com/index_files/ethernet.htm Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RJ45 Aggravation
On Dec 12, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: On 12/12/2010 6:06 PM, smac0031 wrote: I couldn't get any of them to work. The existing network used to work, but when I tried these wall plugs I could never get more than three of the four pairs to work. I have a decent punch down tool and a little circuit tester which when you plug in the new cable it sequentially tests each pair. It did work before, but now its fixed so it doesn't work. I wanted to make it look nice. Now it doesn't work or look nice. Any ideas. Hi Mark: which scheme were you using, 568 A or B? If you wired up the network plug using 568A and the cables are B (most common I have seen. Please don't ask why. I don't know and don't care), it will not work. You need to use the same scheme cables as the wall plugs. There are a number of sites on the web which can show you the proper color sequence for each scheme. One is here: With 568 A vs B it only matters that the end of each cable is the same. You can use 568A wall wiring and 568B patch cables with no problem. The difference is in which color wire pair goes to which pins on the connector. You could use any pair, as long as you use the same pair at both ends of the cable. But 568 A vs B is a good thing to check for. The first time I worked on networking at a commercial building it had just been rewired and all the outlets were wired B and the patch panels were wired A. Who ever did it just went with the color guides on the respective sockets and one was B and one was A. Most equipment I see now is marked for both so you just have to pick one and stick with it. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Ok, ok, so since we are now all confidant about all this shocking 2nd anode charge stuff, here goes a real good true story. Many years ago I was working at a TV repair store to pay for college. TVs were removed from the cabinet and put on the repair bench. We did not remove the CRT from the cabinet, just used an old surplus 5 CRT and connected the 2nd anode wire via an alligator clip to the nub on the CRT. This was easy to snap off and I was holding the chassis to look at some part and the clip snapped off and hit the keys in my front pocket. I can tell you for sure, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT AT ALL, about 20KV does fry things close to them keys and oh my that did hurt, but no apparent damages since I got 4 kids. JML. === --- On Sat, 12/11/10, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: From: ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 11:14 PM On Dec 11, 9:44 pm, Dennis Myhand wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... JT It only takes 50milliamps. That isn't a lot as it is. wrong again. 50 mA causes no more than discomfort. it requires a sustained 100-200 mA to induce ventricular fibrillation, and over 200 mA to halt breathing and pose a serious risk of death (quoted directly from a medical text). please scroll up to read a knowledgable contribution to this thread from Jeff Walther. i might add that i too, as a young apprentice to an electrician, once touched a hot 220 feed (unfused, directly from the powerlines) and even though it knocked me to the floor 15 feet from where i was standing, i neither needed nor received any medical attention, and i am still here to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the dangers of electric shocks. furthermore, the total amount of charge stored in a CRT is minimal, and is completely discharged in a millisecond or so. hardly a sustained electrocution. i suppose if someone were soaking wet and standing on their naked left foot on a grounded metal plate connected by metal rods sunk to the level of the water table, and they discharged a just unplugged CRT thru their left hand forcing the momentary current to pass direct thru their heart, there might be a small risk of inducing ventricular fibrillation (which is still not necessarily fatal). the absurdly over-cautious posts in this thread simply confirm the old adage that there is nothing more dangerous than a little bit of knowledge. not even electricity. besides, as the original poster has just added, replacing the HD in an eMac is simple, and unless someone is a complete idiot (in which case a highly improbable death by electric shock would just be one small victory for evolution), it is easily done without ever going near the CRT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: List Mom request-sorry, again
On 12/12/10 1:30 PM, DLC wrote: *sigh* Hi all, Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to reach. Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via this group. Regards, Dana Have you tried going to the web page for the group? Also there is lemlists http://groups.google.com/group/lemlists?hl=en a discussion group for problems, etc on all LEM lists. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in the middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 12, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars from a crt zap, in HS. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. No scars, but I'll never forget the sensation of getting zapped with the 208V / 400Hz inside a launcher control console that was supposed to be powered down! Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Previously, at 9:40 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in the middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. I didn't that then and I'm sure as heck surprised now! Rural Michigan had a lot more gas stations in the ol days. Thanks for the update? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacPorts and Facebook
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/12/12 12:36, James Therrault so eloquently wrote: While I don't do social sites, I sure like Little Snitch. You hear about Facebook's security transgressions regarding their members from time to time, but Facebook's activities outside of their own domain seem to get little notice. There was a time when some people thought the only use for Little Snitch was for pirating sw, but I'm sure glad to have it in this day of personal information harvesting and theft. Unfortunately as CNET pointed out last November the 19th, despite people thinking and firmly believing their systems are sacrosanct because they are not Facebook members their info is most likely compromised anyway. If you are firmly secure in your web surfing in general you have nothing to fear from Facebook. And conversely if you are sloppy or careless you should not even be opening a browser. Facebook is the least of your worries. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Previously, Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. Paul Stamsen replied: No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again. http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm My own rule of thumb from lifelong observation and real world buying power of the dollar is that gas at $ 2.90 a gallon is equal to about about $0.32 in 1970 dollars. The only thing that makes gas seem expensive to me is the low amount I can buy with a measely retirement income. All of you independant contractors get a real job or pay out of your contractor earnings or there will be no retirement income, measely or otherwise in your future. Not a judgement, just have friends who thought they were covered. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
