Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Eric Volker
Thanks, Jeff and Dan. Currently, the drive will not eject even if I hold the 
door open for it (and it's certainly not being a lady.) Also tried propping up 
the rear end with a nice thick book, no change. 

Looks like a new case would be around $60 + $30 shipping, plus a lot of 
disassembly. At this point I can't afford to replace it, so I may have to part 
it out. That's a shame since everything works, with the exception of the drive. 
It's also drawing too much power with a space heater and a quad intel on the 
same circuit - already blew a breaker once. I may have to build a cheap, 
efficient Hackintosh to replace it.

Thanks, folks...

Eric

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Eric Volker
Sorry folks, replied to the wrong thread. My apologies...

Eric
On 27 Dec 2010 06:30, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Jeff and Dan. Currently, the drive will not eject even if I hold
the door open for it (and it's certainly not being a lady.) Also tried
propping up the rear end with a nice thick book, no change.

 Looks like a new case would be around $60 + $30 shipping, plus a lot of
disassembly. At this point I can't afford to replace it, so I may have to
part it out. That's a shame since everything works, with the exception of
the drive. It's also drawing too much power with a space heater and a quad
intel on the same circuit - already blew a breaker once. I may have to build
a cheap, efficient Hackintosh to replace it.

 Thanks, folks...

 Eric

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Re: PM G5 DVD Drive Problem

2010-12-27 Thread Eric Volker
Thanks, Jeff and Dan. Currently, the drive will not eject even if I hold the
door open for it (and it's certainly not being a lady.) Also tried propping
up the rear end with a nice thick book, no change.
Looks like a new case would be around $60 + $30 shipping, plus a lot of
disassembly. At this point I can't afford to replace it, so I may have to
part it out. That's a shame since everything works, with the exception of
the drive. It's also drawing too much power with a space heater and a quad
intel on the same circuit - already blew a breaker once. I may have to build
a cheap, efficient Hackintosh to replace it.
Thanks, folks...
Eric

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Al Poulin


On Dec 26, 7:26 pm, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote:
  Open the PowerMac and stick your ear in there, to verify that the  
  sounds are coming from the drives.

 I did and I have - I have just distrusted my ears (being a musician  
 teaches you to, ironically). I am as satisfied as I can be that the  
 noise is from the drives. It occurs to me a little belatedly that a  
 test that would absolutely determine whether it was the hard drives  
 would be to disconnect the power from them and start up. Unless  
 that's a no-no for some reason. The only possible source of noise in  
 this situation would be the fan, yes? An optical drive is silent  
 unless it's reading something, no?

I would try a stethoscope, or a low tech 11 inch cardboard core from
your last roll of paper towels, or make yourself an ear trumpet from
paper.

Al Poulin

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Re: All of a sudden yet another new movie file format *.YES

2010-12-27 Thread Dan

At 3:43 PM -0800 12/24/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote:

All of a sudden yet another new movie file format *.YES

What is this one and who can play it. It was a dl via Real, but now 
Real can't or won't play it.


Might help to identify it if you actually gave urls as to where you got it.

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Santa left usernames and yahoo names - how to flush them?

2010-12-27 Thread Jonas Lopez
Dear Listers,

Santa left usernames and yahoo names - how to flush them?

Now that they all left the computer in shambles with partial and unwanted user 
names and yahoo names that I want to get rid of, but how. 

These are on drop down selectors, just click and OMG see the crumbs Santa's bad 
helpers left. Now, how do I get rid of them???

JML

I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway





  

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Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...

2010-12-27 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...
Date:Monday, 20. December 2010
From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Ok.  So I finally got around to putting a bigger display on this
 power mac here at home.
 ...
 Anyone gots some recommendations / favs?

Just found http://www.hdwallpapers.in/ – great wallpapers. Hasn't been 
mentioned yet, or I missed it.

Marry christmas and a happy new year!
http://www.hdwallpapers.in/2011_happy_new_year__christmas-wallpapers.html

Andreas  aka  Linux User #330250

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Moving Tiger and Leopard OS's from G4 (32b) to G5 (64b)

2010-12-27 Thread Centrisman
I plan to image Tiger (10.4) and Leopard (10.5) from my Power Mac G4
(Quicksilver 2002) to a recently acquired a Power Mac G5 (Early 2005).
My questions are:

1. Tiger and Leopard were installed on a G4, a 32 bit processor, but
the G5 is a 64 bit processor. Do I need to do anything after I’ve
“installed” the G4 Tiger and Leopard on the G5 to have them function
as 64 bit Operating Systems:

a. They can detect which processor they are installed on automagically
and don’t need my intervention
b. I have to toggle something
c. I have to reinstall one/both of the Operating Systems on the G5 for
them to function as 64 bit Operating Systems)?

2. How can I tell if the OS is running as a 32 bit or 64 bit process?

TIA.

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
 Many G4 Macs can have the 48-bit LBA Property added persistently (that
 is, semi-permanently) to their PRAMs.

 Sure, once the PRAM is cleared, the property reverts to 24-bit mode.

 However, as long as the PRAM is NOT cleared, perhaps for many years, the
 property is available, and this means that ANY sized drive can be
 supported, even for booting.

 However, it is ALWAYS better to play safe and partition each drive into a
 partition which is 131,072 MB, with the remainder being partitioned as
 desired.

 The 131,072 MB partition may also be sub-partitioned, just so no
 sub-partition straddles the 131,072 MB line.

Thanks. Interesting. Am I to understand, then, that it is advisable to
do both of the above when attempting to install a HD larger than 128
GB in a Sawtooth Power Mac G4, and that the partitioning is necessary
only IF you force recognition of the larger HD? Not that I would
know how to add the 48-bit LBA Property (or anything) to the PRAM...

Sean

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
 Without a patch you can format / access up to 128Gb of it.  Disk Utility will 
 show it as only 128Gb in size and format it accordingly.  I have used a couple
 of 160 Gb drives on G4s formatted to 128Gb.  They work just fine, you just 
 have 32Gb that is unusable.

Ah, that clears that up. Thanks, Clark.

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
 I have two Sawtooths which I equipped with Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI  
 cards.
 They support drives larger than 128GB. No Voodoo.
 The cards extended the usefulness of these G4s.

Thanks, Dale. Good info. Maybe I won't have to send the HD I ordered
back. I might anyway, but it's good to know that I don't HAVE to, that
there's yet another option.

Sean

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Re: Moving Tiger and Leopard OS's from G4 (32b) to G5 (64b)

2010-12-27 Thread Dan

At 3:41 PM -0800 12/27/2010, Centrisman wrote:

I plan to image Tiger (10.4) and Leopard (10.5) from my Power Mac G4
(Quicksilver 2002) to a recently acquired a Power Mac G5 (Early 2005).

My questions are:

1. Tiger and Leopard were installed on a G4, a 32 bit processor, but
the G5 is a 64 bit processor. Do I need to do anything after I've
installed the G4 Tiger and Leopard on the G5 to have them function
as 64 bit Operating Systems:

a. They can detect which processor they are installed on automagically
and don't need my intervention
b. I have to toggle something
c. I have to reinstall one/both of the Operating Systems on the G5 for
them to function as 64 bit Operating Systems)?


OS X is monolithic.  Just move it over and it will work. 
CarbonCopyCloner is your friend.


What you might want to reinstall are some 3rd party products.  Now 
and then I've seen some installers that only drop 64-bit frameworks 
if the machine can run 'em.



2. How can I tell if the OS is running as a 32 bit or 64 bit process?


Activity Monitor.

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Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
  I would try a stethoscope, or a low tech 11 inch cardboard core
from
 your last roll of paper towels, or make yourself an ear trumpet from
 paper.

Thanks, Al. Next time I have any suspicions, I think I'll go the
disconnect power cables route first. I should have thought of that
before I bothered anyone with the noise question.

Sean

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Re: Moving Tiger and Leopard OS's from G4 (32b) to G5 (64b)

2010-12-27 Thread Centrisman
Dan,

Long time since you last helped me. Thanks again.

I don't plan to use any application other than OS X's Disk Utility.

If I understand your answer to my first question, the OS will know
that it can run as a 64bit process but some of the 3rd party apps
might have issues such that I might have to reinstall them if I want
the 64bit version of the app. And if I understand your answer to my
second question, the Activity Monitor will indicate if a process is
32bit or 64bit. Correct?

TIA.

--Bruce

On Dec 27, 7:00 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 3:41 PM -0800 12/27/2010, Centrisman wrote:

 I plan to image Tiger (10.4) and Leopard (10.5) from my Power Mac G4
 (Quicksilver 2002) to a recently acquired a Power Mac G5 (Early 2005).

 My questions are:

 1. Tiger and Leopard were installed on a G4, a 32 bit processor, but
 the G5 is a 64 bit processor. Do I need to do anything after I've
 installed the G4 Tiger and Leopard on the G5 to have them function
 as 64 bit Operating Systems:

 a. They can detect which processor they are installed on automagically
 and don't need my intervention
 b. I have to toggle something
 c. I have to reinstall one/both of the Operating Systems on the G5 for
 them to function as 64 bit Operating Systems)?

 OS X is monolithic.  Just move it over and it will work.
 CarbonCopyCloner is your friend.

 What you might want to reinstall are some 3rd party products.  Now
 and then I've seen some installers that only drop 64-bit frameworks
 if the machine can run 'em.

 2. How can I tell if the OS is running as a 32 bit or 64 bit process?

 Activity Monitor.

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Re: All of a sudden yet another new movie file format *.YES

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
My .2 cents: If you search for *.YES, what you find might give you -
at least it gives me - the impression that YES is actually a command
or something from within the file that maybe got garbled into being
listed as the file type. If I had such a file and wondered about it, I
would (and surely there are more up to date methods) use that old
trick with OS 9's Fast Find where you could go in and change the file
type. I'd change the file type to various known types and see what
happened. I can't remember, but i think Fast Find would even show you
the actual file type when it was different than the suffix you saw on
the desktop.

Sean

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Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Sean Carroll
NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm  
looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has  
already been covered exhaustively there.


My recently departed (in trade) Gigabit Ethernet Power Mac G4 was  
essentially problem-free until the power supply died about a month  
ago. I don't want to repeat what followed. Trouble was, without my  
own computer and with only sporadic access to any others, there  
wasn't opportunity for the research I needed to do, let alone time to  
find this group and get some meaningful answers. No Mac friends or  
ongoing relationships with a repair shop, either. The story, briefly,  
and then I'll get on with the questions:


Came home, turned it on. Nothing. No lights, no sound, no action.  
Tested different power cords and outlets, nothing. Power supply. My  
roommate opined that it was probably a simple matter of getting any  
old (new) power supply and throwing it in, though he wasn't positive.  
He puts together his own PCs from kits, but he's not exactly a guru,  
and knows nothing about Apple computers. My preference was to have  
someone competent and qualified do whatever work was necessary. Power  
supply sounded a bit intimidating. Apple Store first. They confirmed  
the obvious, but couldn't help with the repair. They recommended an  
Apple authorized repair shop. Spoke with them. Seemed like they  
didn't want to be bothered - first suggestion was for me to find a  
similar machine and swap things around. Thought about it. No, I  
wanted them to fix it. Rebuilding the power supply is what they were  
going to do (their first resort as a matter of policy). But it would  
take a couple weeks for them to even get to it. OK. After a week they  
called me and said they had a similar machine they could swap my HDs  
and RAM into. I'd been without a computer for 2 weeks already, and  
with the holidays coming up it seemed possible that it might be  
another 2 or 3 or 4, maybe all of it just to get the answer well, we  
can't fix it, so we're going to have to find a replacement and wait  
some more. So I agreed. The Sawtooth I got back was in good shape and  
worked well, only problem being a new one with my very own HDs. I  
probably should have insisted on swapping more than just my HDs and  
RAM into it, but I wasn't thinking. Can't complain too much, because  
evidently I got a Zip Drive that might still work (at least with OS  
9) and a DVD-RW instead of a CD-ROM in the bargain. But - all of this  
could have been avoided if I had known a power supply from a hole in  
the ground or had been able to find out quickly to begin with.


Questions:

1. How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or  
indeed to any Apple desktop computer made since?


2. Is finding a replacement a matter of very specific model numbers  
(I found a lot of replacements online quickly, ranging in price from  
$60 to $180, but had no idea how trustworthy any of them might be and  
remained iffy on whether the removal and reinstallation was work I  
should undertake myself) or looking for certain specs?


3. Before even considering replacement, is there something a dummy  
can do to look at and into the power supply and evaluate the  
situation, something as simple as oh, it's the fuse or oh, that  
there cable has come loose?


4. Is there such a thing as a normal or typical lifespan for a power  
supply?


I get the impression that replacing a power supply isn't that big a  
deal. Maybe something I could figure out myself if I had to. But  
knowing everything about what to look for in a replacement isn't  
something I can figure out myself. I'd like to forearm myself with  
some knowledge. This new Sawtooth is older than what I traded for  
it, after all, and the power supply might be as well.


Sean

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Re: Moving Tiger and Leopard OS's from G4 (32b) to G5 (64b)

2010-12-27 Thread Dan

At 4:19 PM -0800 12/27/2010, Centrisman wrote:

I don't plan to use any application other than OS X's Disk Utility.


Boot on your G4 on Leopard.
Boot the G5 into Target Disk Mode and connect it to the G4 with a 
firewire cable.

Use CarbonCopyCloner on the G4 to clone the drive(s) into the G5.

Then, boot the G5 and go change the system's name in the Sharing system pref.


If I understand your answer to my first question, the OS will know
that it can run as a 64bit process


The kernel will do a 64-bit boot if you tell it to.  Do this by 
booting while holding down the 6 and 4 keys.  Not that this will fail 
if any of the hardware you have installed has only a 32-bit driver 
(the kernel boot must be pure).


Regardless of which kernel is running (OS X switches the app 
environment dynamically), applications will go 64-bit if the system 
supports it and the app's code to do it is available.


Some 3rd party app's installers sniff your hardware then tailor their 
installation to the specific hardware on which you're running.  Since 
you installed those products on a 32-bit only machine, that's all you 
get.  You'd have to re-install those products.  I think this level of 
*cough* sophistication is limited to $ products.  Haven't run into 
one recently (but then I don't do Adobe um stuff).



Activity Monitor will indicate if a process is 32bit or 64bit. Correct?


Yes, it's in one of the columns you can enable.

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Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...

2010-12-27 Thread Dan

At 9:32 PM +0100 12/27/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote:

Just found http://www.hdwallpapers.in/ - great wallpapers. Hasn't been
mentioned yet, or I missed it.


Nice.  Found some good stuff there!  Thx!

Very nice 1701...
http://www.hdwallpapers.in/star_trek_classic_ncc_1701_vehicle-wallpapers.html

And I really like this one:
http://www.hdwallpapers.in/floating_earth-wallpapers.html

And:
http://www.hdwallpapers.in/pegasus_battlestar_galactica-wallpapers.html

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Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread Dan

At 7:35 PM -0600 12/27/2010, Sean Carroll wrote:
NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm 
looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has 
already been covered exhaustively there.


There have been several in-depth threads on this list regarding the 
GigE power supplies.


My recently departed (in trade) Gigabit Ethernet Power Mac G4 was 
essentially problem-free until the power supply died


How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or indeed 
to any Apple desktop computer made since?


The GigE can use a DA's supply, but not a QuickSilver's.

dvwarehouse.com has 'em, but they're a bit expensive.  Now and then 
people offer them on LEM Swap, again at awfully high prices.  A 
better solution might be to adapt a standard PC supply.  Details 
here: http://atxg4.com/


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Question about an iPod

2010-12-27 Thread Norm Rowe


  
  
I know this maybe the wrong group but I can not find an ipod group.
My ipod when plugged into my G4 mac with i tunes 10.1.1 with System
10.5.8 with ipod 1.4.1 it will not "restore" because other
applications are in use. What can this be? 
Norm 
  




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Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

2010-12-27 Thread peterhaas
 NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm
 looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has
 already been covered exhaustively there.

Yes, they are, but they are fair questions.


 Questions:

 1. How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or
 indeed to any Apple desktop computer made since?

VERY specific, mechanically AND electrically.

The PSUs for Power Mac G4s, at least those up to the Quicksilvers, are,
for the most part, a generic 300+ watt PSU, WITH THE FOLLOWING
DIFFERENCES:

1) the external fasteners are M3.5-0.6, which is Apple's internal standard
for a 6-32 UNC-sized fastener; Apple adopted the M3.5-0.6 fastener for
all its products which required a 6-32 UNC-sized fastener with the very
first Macintosh in 1984; however, the metric countries decided to make
this size archaic very shortly after Apple's adoption, also in 1984,
thereby making Apple perhaps the ONLY user of this fastener; not
withstanding, Apple continues to favor the M3.5-0.6 fastener as there is
no metric fastener with the same shear strength between the standard
M3-0.5 and the M4-0.7.

2) the external connectors are Apple-standard, and vary from
model-to-model, with 20 pin, 22 pin and 24 pin external connections, among
other differences.

3) some models also provide monitor power.


 2. Is finding a replacement a matter of very specific model numbers
 (I found a lot of replacements online quickly, ranging in price from
 $60 to $180, but had no idea how trustworthy any of them might be and
 remained iffy on whether the removal and reinstallation was work I
 should undertake myself) or looking for certain specs?

The usual suspect Mac parts suppliers should be able to fix you up,
using a good PSU harvested from a Mac with other problems.


 3. Before even considering replacement, is there something a dummy
 can do to look at and into the power supply and evaluate the
 situation, something as simple as oh, it's the fuse or oh, that
 there cable has come loose?

There IS a fuse, but it is in the 325 volt converter section, and is
intended to protect the off-the-line section of the PSU from catastrophic
failure.

If the PSU's fuse is indeed blown, there is almost nothing which can be
done to resurrect the PSU, save an expensive component lever repair.

Besides which, that 325 volts is enough to kill you!


 4. Is there such a thing as a normal or typical lifespan for a power
 supply?

The PSU should last the lifetime of the machine.

Certainly, it should last the economic lifetime of the machine, which has
been over for G-series Macs for a long time now.


 I get the impression that replacing a power supply isn't that big a
 deal. Maybe something I could figure out myself if I had to. But
 knowing everything about what to look for in a replacement isn't
 something I can figure out myself. I'd like to forearm myself with
 some knowledge. This new Sawtooth is older than what I traded for
 it, after all, and the power supply might be as well.

It IS possible to use a generic PSU of about 300+ watts with the following
changes, which are probably WAY beyond most end-users:

1) change the 6-32-UNC fasteners to M3.5-0.6 by the simple expedient of
running an M3.5-0.6 taper tap through the 6-32 UNC holes; the basic
diameters of the two fasteners are nearly identical, so this expedient
works in 99.44 percent of the cases; or, you can acquire new 6-32 UNC
fasteners, but they probably won't be satin-finished stainless steel, like
the Apple fasteners.

2) completely disassemble the new PSU; remove its internal PCB; remove its
external cables by unsoldering them; harvest the external cables from the
failed Apple PSU and connect these to the corresponding points within the
new PSU by soldering them; reassemble the new PSU.

3) test, and pray that you didn't make even one mistake when connecting
the donor cables.



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Re: All of a sudden yet another new movie file format *.YES

2010-12-27 Thread t...@savingus.org

On 12/24/10 8:29 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

Dear Listers,

I forgot to include this fact:
The file was auto dl from a site and given the name *.YES.
When I went to play it the following came on screen:
Can not play with Quicktime 7.6.4 version.
I am running 10.4.11, G4, QT 7.6.4 which is the last version.
Any ideas?

--- On *Fri, 12/24/10, Kris Tilford /ktilfo...@cox.net/* wrote:


These folks seem to list every known file extension that I've ever heard 
of, but nothing on .YES - could be good to bookmark 
http://www.file-extensions.org/


Eric

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Re: Question about an iPod

2010-12-27 Thread Fabian Fang

On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Norm Rowe wrote:


I know this maybe the wrong group but I can not find an ipod group.


http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AppleiPod/

Active ten-year-old Yahoo Tech Group with almost 6,000 members.

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