Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question
running 9.2.2 with the Sonnet upgrade: there are two programs on the install CD that come with the processor upgrade. the instructions say to first update firmware, which you don't need to do since you're already at 4.2.8. then it says to run the program on the CD, under OS X, for OS X install. a couple of pages later, it says to run the other program under 9.2. i didn't discover this part of the instructions until i had changed the processor and tried to boot to 9.2, and the boot sequence stalled. then i RTFM and found the OS9 part. i put the old processor back in, booted 9.2, ran the OS 9 install program, then put the new processor back in, and all is well. what the OS 9 install program does is put two extensions in the extensions folder: Sonnet Processor Upgrade (with a space before the S so it loads first) and an updated version of Apple CPU Plugins, which is in the Multiprocessing folder within Extensions folder. then just for fun, i wanted to boot from an OS 9.2.2 install disk. of course it didn't boot properly due to the lack of those extensions (actually it's when i was trying to get it to boot that i realized that the installer must have installed extensions for the booting to work). i readily found the Sonnet extension but i needed to contact Sonnet tech support (who repllied within an hour!) to learn about the updated CPU plugin extension. so, i burned a new 9.2.2 install disk with Toast 5.1 after adding the sonnet extension and replacing the old CPU extension. boots fine--except i'm not sure when i'll ever need! no, i don't have enough to do with my time!! On Jan 26, 10:04 pm, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Thanks, Ken. i inherited a sawtooth a few weeks ago, and decided to keep it and upgrade it so i could run leopard and lightroom 2. Being able to run Leopard would be a bonus. Ironically, an important asset of more CPU firepower for me would be the ability to run some *older* software (old but more recent than 450 MHz as state-of-the- art). Digital recording software that requires a computer with some expandability, in case anyone is wondering why I'd want an old computer running old software when I'm planning to get a new Mac mini before too long. i bought a 1.6 ghz processor upgrade (Sonnet) from OWC (the link is on one of the low end mac Powermac upgrade pages). it took about 5 minutes to install--run the firmware mod utility that came with the new processor, remove the old processor, drop in the new one, and off to the races. Good to hear that it's as easy as advertised. Sonnet seems to get mixed reviews here with other stuff, but I haven't heard many bad reviews of their CPU upgrades. Maybe one. (in order to run the firmware updater to prepare for the new processor, the mac firmware needs to be at 4.2.8. My firmware is at 4.2.8 . I have OS 9.2.2 on a partition, and I also have the OS 9 install disc. Which reminds me - are you aware of any OS 9 complications involved in installing the Sonnet CPU upgrade? I know that a Newer Technology requires a bit of fuss and bother with removing something from some plug-ins folder (CPU. CMU, something) in OS 9 prior to the upgrade. It appears that you might not be running OS 9 (or at least weren't before the upgrade), but I just wondered if you noticed anything about it in the documentation or while running the firmware mod utility. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
At 7:30 PM -0800 1/28/2011, Sean Carroll wrote: how do you change the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4? hum. That pulsing rate would be controlled by the power manager, PMU (SMC in the newer Macs) -- as that's the only thing running during sleep. In the GUI, you hit the PMU thru the Energy Saver system preferences. From the shell (Terminal), the pmset tool manages it. Perhaps there's something in the docs, 'man pmset'. Of course, it could also just be a hardwired circuit... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
On 1/28/11 11:43 PM, Tina K. wrote:
On 2011/01/28 20:30, Sean Carroll so eloquently wrote:
I liked the way that, during sleep, the power button light on my old
Gig-E would fade and brighten. I don't know when Apple started with
this, but it was new to me in 2000. (I liked to point out this amusing
- but not useless - feature to non-Mac people
My first Mac was a Graphite iMac 600 MHz, the first time I saw it
'breathe' while sleeping I was in love with it. I wish that I still
had that adorable little Mac so I could give it a hug.
Silly and OT I know, but what can I say?
Actually it was my Powerbook 5300 where I first noticed that they
breathe while sleeping. My first 3 Macs (Performa 475, PPC 7200/120 and
Beige Gossamer (born a G3/266, later enhanced to G3/400) didn't do it
that I ever saw, but I've seen my 5300 and Lombard Powerbooks, and G4
Quicksilver 867 all doing it. I don't know if my G4 Mini does it,
though, since its power-on indicator is facing the wall side of the
hutch on my computer desk so I can get at the free USB port
easilyh lemme see, maybe if I'm careful enough I can turn it
around without loosening the AC adapter cordahhh. YES, it DOES! LOL
Maybe it's a New World Mac thing?
Oh and while I TOTALLY agree with both Sean and Tina on how cool (and
endearing) Macs are when breathing while sleeping, gotta say the one
thing I personally NEVER liked about ANY Mac design was where they put
ports and outlets. As far as I'm concerned, this aspect of the physical
design could have been done precisely to make things harder. I know, I
know, it's not aesthetic to have to see the nest so that's why they
did them this way, but most of the time, I can only appreciate
aesthetics when they ADD to the FUNCTIONALITY (like the breathing which
assures me that my Macs are OK and sleeping), not DETRACT from it! To wit:
For me, it's a major PITA to have to turn the whole damn computer (tower
or big desktop box) around so as to be able to see/get at the ports and
plug-ins to change a plug-in/make sure it's seated properly or try to
remember how/where you plugged something in if you're tracing lines
from the power strip. And why couldn't the Mini have its power-on light
by the power switch and the optical drive on the right or left side of
the panel with the power switch/pug-in/ports? Translation: why did they
have to force me to choose between being able to see the power light and
be able to easily access the optical drive at the expense of being able
to easily power on, PRAM Zap or plug in flash drives, speakers or
headphones? And who was the freakin' idiot who couldn't put ALL the
commonly used stuff (USB ports and AC-adapter plug-in) on the RIGHT side
of the iBook? (or all on the left) -- USB ports on opposite sides of the
AC-adapter gets me hopelessly tangled up when I need to use the mouse
while the machine needs to drink wall juice.
Ooops...Sorry... :-{
/rant off
/hijack off
~Yersinia
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unread mail on G5 PM
Is there a way to gather unread mail in Apple Mail application in one folder or list without searching an unending mail list? I'm using 10.4.11 and 10.5.8. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
I have tried this myself a few times trying to mess with kernel extensions
to no avail I know there was a linux kernel that would allow you to use
the sleep indicator light to show HDD activity, there might be some info on
it don't know though. I also read awhile back that there is a key in
Info.plist named intensity so that might be what we are looking for. If
anyone has any ideas I am more then willing to test out and try on my PB G4
but from all I have looked into it hasn't been done. I am relatively new to
all the coding mumbo jumbo but like I said I messed around with kernel
extensions and couldn't work it out specifically If I can find that linux
kernel maybe someone can offer some help or at least point me to a better
forum to help out on that.
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Yersinia yersi...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
On 1/28/11 11:43 PM, Tina K. wrote:
On 2011/01/28 20:30, Sean Carroll so eloquently wrote:
I liked the way that, during sleep, the power button light on my old
Gig-E would fade and brighten. I don't know when Apple started with
this, but it was new to me in 2000. (I liked to point out this amusing
- but not useless - feature to non-Mac people
My first Mac was a Graphite iMac 600 MHz, the first time I saw it
'breathe' while sleeping I was in love with it. I wish that I still had that
adorable little Mac so I could give it a hug.
Silly and OT I know, but what can I say?
Actually it was my Powerbook 5300 where I first noticed that they breathe
while sleeping. My first 3 Macs (Performa 475, PPC 7200/120 and Beige
Gossamer (born a G3/266, later enhanced to G3/400) didn't do it that I ever
saw, but I've seen my 5300 and Lombard Powerbooks, and G4 Quicksilver 867
all doing it. I don't know if my G4 Mini does it, though, since its power-on
indicator is facing the wall side of the hutch on my computer desk so I
can get at the free USB port easilyh lemme see, maybe if I'm
careful enough I can turn it around without loosening the AC adapter
cordahhh. YES, it DOES! LOL Maybe it's a New World Mac thing?
Oh and while I TOTALLY agree with both Sean and Tina on how cool (and
endearing) Macs are when breathing while sleeping, gotta say the one thing I
personally NEVER liked about ANY Mac design was where they put ports and
outlets. As far as I'm concerned, this aspect of the physical design could
have been done precisely to make things harder. I know, I know, it's not
aesthetic to have to see the nest so that's why they did them this way,
but most of the time, I can only appreciate aesthetics when they ADD to the
FUNCTIONALITY (like the breathing which assures me that my Macs are OK and
sleeping), not DETRACT from it! To wit:
For me, it's a major PITA to have to turn the whole damn computer (tower or
big desktop box) around so as to be able to see/get at the ports and
plug-ins to change a plug-in/make sure it's seated properly or try to
remember how/where you plugged something in if you're tracing lines from
the power strip. And why couldn't the Mini have its power-on light by the
power switch and the optical drive on the right or left side of the panel
with the power switch/pug-in/ports? Translation: why did they have to force
me to choose between being able to see the power light and be able to easily
access the optical drive at the expense of being able to easily power on,
PRAM Zap or plug in flash drives, speakers or headphones? And who was the
freakin' idiot who couldn't put ALL the commonly used stuff (USB ports and
AC-adapter plug-in) on the RIGHT side of the iBook? (or all on the left) --
USB ports on opposite sides of the AC-adapter gets me hopelessly tangled up
when I need to use the mouse while the machine needs to drink wall juice.
Ooops...Sorry... :-{
/rant off
/hijack off
~Yersinia
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Re: unread mail on G5 PM
Is there a way to gather unread mail in Apple Mail application in one folder or list without searching an unending mail list? I'm using 10.4.11 and 10.5.8. To begin with, set up a Smart Mailbox with one rule (all of the following conditions), Message is unread. Sean (using Tiger 10.4.11) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
On 2011/01/28 23:57, Sean Carroll so eloquently wrote: Have all Macs, or at least desktops, since... well, since whenever Apple introduced it... have they all breathed during sleep? Do they still? Except for trips to the Apple Store to gawk and dream, the entirety of my Mac experience has been Power Macintosh 7100/66 - Gig-E - Sawtooth. So I don't know. My Power Mac G5 did and my Mac Pro does, but the effect doesn't have the same impact because instead of the power button 'breathing' it is just one little (led?) light about 1/16 in diameter. I loved my Dual G5 and love my MP, the Al cases are elegant and the insides are an engineering marvel (in my eyes anyway), and when it comes to performance there's no comparison to that little 'ole G3. But there's no love quite like your first love, whether it's your first boy/girlfriend, the home you grew up in, your first car, or your first Mac. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
On 2011/01/29 08:17, Yersinia so eloquently wrote: Oh and while I TOTALLY agree with both Sean and Tina on how cool (and endearing) Macs are when breathing while sleeping, gotta say the one thing I personally NEVER liked about ANY Mac design was where they put ports and outlets. As far as I'm concerned, this aspect of the physical design could have been done precisely to make things harder. I know, I know, it's not aesthetic to have to see the nest so that's why they did them this way, but most of the time, I can only appreciate aesthetics when they ADD to the FUNCTIONALITY (like the breathing which assures me that my Macs are OK and sleeping), not DETRACT from it! The Mac Pro has a headphone, two USB 2, and two firewire 800 ports on the front just underneath the power button so perhaps Apple has finally woken up smelled the java. Or maybe it was a mistake that slipped by his Steveness and they'll be removed in the next redesign. Of course all my firewire devices are fw400. Sigh. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: unread mail on G5 PM
On 2011/01/29 10:50, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: Is there a way to gather unread mail in Apple Mail application in one folder or list without searching an unending mail list? I'm using 10.4.11 and 10.5.8. You can also sort the mail by status by clicking the top of the status column (the one with the dot in it). The first time you click should bring all unread mail to the top, a second click should put all unread mail at the bottom. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini Max Resolution?
I don’t know what you need the higher resolution for, or if this will work with your MacMini, but a solution might be to connect another (cheap) monitor to the second port and put the two side by side? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Microphone doesn't work?
On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. no signal gets through. Jeff If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input.. Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative. It works in a Windows machine. PC's are mic-level, not 'line-level'. Standard cheapo tape recorder and PC mics don't work on Macs without a preamp of some sort. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: unread mail on G5 PM
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:50 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Is there a way to gather unread mail in Apple Mail application in one folder or list without searching an unending mail list? I'm using 10.4.11 and 10.5.8. Im pretty sure you can use a smart folder for that. They've been part of Apple's Mail app since version 2.0. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Microphone doesn't work?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. no signal gets through. Jeff If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input.. Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative. It works in a Windows machine. PC's are mic-level, not 'line-level'. Standard cheapo tape recorder and PC mics don't work on Macs without a preamp of some sort. ___ Second response in the thread was from myself. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:18 PM I wrote, On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jeffrey Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.comwrote: I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it? Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work? (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box) Is it a line level input ? You may need a preamp. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
I should mention another difference between the Gig-E and the Sawtooth: The color of the power button LED. The Gig-E's was white. The Sawtooth's is yellow. In daylight it is clearly yellow. In poor light or darkness it appears more green (because of the blue around it). I wonder a) if this Sawtooth's power button LED was replaced at some point with a part different from stock, maybe even something from a non-Apple computer, b) if incorrect voltage would alter the LED pulsation rate and if that would point to a PSU/wiring problem that also caused the case fan to complain (low but constant just not right noise) and could even be related to it (a wiring mixup during some past repair?), c) whether the LED its;ef is just faulty somehow, and c) if I might also complain that I don't like this green light. White is the proper color of computer Sleep breathing, at least for the Gig-E and its brothers. I also wonder why Apple would not enable some control of the power button LED's behavior through the GUI, at least to enable or disable this pulsation during Sleep (some people can't stand it). It's not like it's a dangerous thing to allow the user to easily control (imagine an Overclock CPU pane in System Preferences). I ran across an article stating that Apple had patented their particular Sleep breathing. Could that have anything to do with them (seemingly) keeping it entirely out of the user's hands? Maybe the only thing to do is replace the existing LED with a proven white, slow-breathing one from a Gig-E. Not today. Probably easier to just buy a whole Gig-E. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the breathing rate of a sleeping Power Mac G4
From the shell (Terminal), the pmset tool manages it. Perhaps there's something in the docs, 'man pmset'. Of course, it could also just be a hardwired circuit... Thanks, Dan. I read up a bit on 'man pmset'. I got as far, so far, as seeing what I could get. I'll have to dig deeper. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Hard drive failing!
Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Thank you very much. I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: unread mail on G5 PM
You can also sort the mail by status by clicking the top of the status column (the one with the dot in it). The first time you click should bring all unread mail to the top, a second click should put all unread mail at the bottom. Cool. I like that approach even better than mine, Tina. After all these years, finally a use for that useless status column! Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question
running 9.2.2 with the Sonnet upgrade: That all sounds quite similar to the extra steps for OS 9 that I read about for the Newer Technology CPU upgrade. Evidently, the CPU upgrade (not Newer Technology) I have ordered is as Plug-n-Play as they come. I hope so, as this is the only part of the whole Sawtooth upgrade that makes me a bit nervous. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
At 6:09 PM -0500 1/29/2011, John Callahan wrote: Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Above specs, but with a bigger cache. Currently I think 1 TB drives are going for $60 or less. Google around and be sure to check local sales. Office Despot is pretty good sometimes. Don't be afraid to buy an external and remove the drive mechanism from it. I've gotten quite a few Hitachi and Seagates recently. My personal preference is to avoid WD. LEM Swap. eBay. Meritline. Amazon. OWC. MacConnection. eCost (mostly refirbs but some new). FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior
Greetings all, Am curious if anyone else has had this issue: QuickSilver, Logic Board Rev. 2002, powered via an OWC 1.5GHz (single CPU) Mercury, rev. 2 (fully compatible w/ OS 9.2.1 and 9.2.2, according to their manual), - running OS 10.5.8 (wonderfully, I might add) on one HD, and a successfully installed OS 9.2.2 from a universal-install CD. An ATI Radeon 32Mb (7500, I believe) is the video card. The Firmware version on this unit is 4.3.3 If I boot into OS 9 straight (normal), I will not get a screen to show (remains black) - lack of HD activity makes me suspect that no booting is engaged either. IF, however, I start up, hold left-shift key, and then choose OS 9 from the OS selection panel that appears, the unit boots into OS 9 and operates fine. Booting into OS X is fine no matter what. Any explanations handy? Thanks for listening, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior
On Jan 29, 2011, at 7:27 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Am curious if anyone else has had this issue: QuickSilver, Logic Board Rev. 2002, powered via an OWC 1.5GHz (single CPU) Mercury, rev. 2 (fully compatible w/ OS 9.2.1 and 9.2.2, according to their manual), - running OS 10.5.8 (wonderfully, I might add) on one HD, and a successfully installed OS 9.2.2 from a universal-install CD. An ATI Radeon 32Mb (7500, I believe) is the video card. The Firmware version on this unit is 4.3.3 If I boot into OS 9 straight (normal), I will not get a screen to show (remains black) - lack of HD activity makes me suspect that no booting is engaged either. IF, however, I start up, hold left-shift key, and then choose OS 9 from the OS selection panel that appears, the unit boots into OS 9 and operates fine. Booting into OS X is fine no matter what. How are you selecting to boot into OS 9? You say left-shift key, are you sure that isn't the option key? That is how one normally gets the OS selection. Is it possible you have two OS 9 installs, one that works and one that doesn't. The OS X Startup Disk System Preference will show you which drive holds which bootable system. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219- db=ProductsC.fp3-lay=WEB-format=items.htm-sortfield=SortID- Max=40category=intdrivessata-find Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Sorry, John - here's a shorter link you won't have to copy and paste: http://resale.headgap.com/ I'm sure you can find your way from there. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Ben's bargains has a 2TB WD from New Egg for $70 after rebate. 2TB! On Jan 29, 10:54 pm, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219- db=ProductsC.fp3-lay=WEB-format=items.htm-sortfield=SortID- Max=40category=intdrivessata-find Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior
On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:27 PM, DLC wrote: If I boot into OS 9 straight (normal), I will not get a screen to show (remains black) - lack of HD activity makes me suspect that no booting is engaged either. By normal I assume you mean selecting the OX 9 in Startup Disk? Since support for Classic ended at OS 10.4.11, there's a chance that Startup Disk in 10.5.8 doesn't handle OS 9 booting correctly? 10.5.8 is unsupported for the Quicksilver. There's another way to select OS 9 or OS X by keyboard commands. You can hold the 9 key to boot OS 9, or the X key to boot OS X. IF, however, I start up, hold left-shift key, and then choose OS 9 from the OS selection panel that appears, the unit boots into OS 9 and operates fine. I think you mean the Option key rather than the left-Shift key. The Shift key gives a Safe Boot in OS X; and no extensions in OS 9. The Option key gives the bootable devices menu. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it, how often do you boot OS 9? If you use OS 9 that much, it'd probably be better to install OS 10.4.11 and use Classic emulation within OS X. As an added perk, Tiger is about 20% faster than Leopard on PPC CPUs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
