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Power Mac Coffee Table!
I agree. Gene H From: James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that served me flawlessly for ten years. JT On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote: http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! Joe Gene H From: JoeTaxpayer To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Leo - I imagine these machines weren't functional. Once the PS dies, it's tough. Even used supplies aren't cheap (set me straight if I'm wrong there) and the time to replace one isn't simple. I love my G4s, but when they go, they get set aside. On Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:01:47 AM UTC-4, Leo E. Sancho wrote: Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
Once the PS dies, it's tough. Even used supplies aren't cheap. If you don't need ADC you can mod a ATX PSU to work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac Coffee Table!
Too bad otherwise useful G4`s collect dust. I have a 7100 PowerPc,three G4`s,and one G3 All in one. I use them. I`ve replaced power supplies(No big deal) in every G4.I have Tiger with Classic and OS9.2Also, I`m trying out Ubuntu and Hypercard. When I get bored,I crank up my Dell XP. Cheers Gene H www.thinkgene.stemtechbiz.com From: Leo E. Sancho To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of course I have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust... -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD SCSI (pref non PCI)
Hey, thanks everyone for your contributions. Much appreciated. On 29/08/12 23:01, t...@prismnet.com wrote: The Atto cards are great...If you want a single ported card, consider the Adaptec PowerDomain I will look into the Atto cards more, as they seem to be well regarded (and cheap now, when available). I think single port SCSI would work best for me. My Scope cards are the heavy lifters of my DSP farm. They are also linked (like SLI for GFX). I think they are best kept in the mobo slots, with their own interrupt channels (did I understand that correctly?). I plan to house the OASYS + SCSI card in the expansion chassis. The SCSI card will not likely be used much at the same time as the OASYS, so a shared interrupt shouldn't affect things. I guess Adaptec is probably fine for this too. On 29/08/12 23:11, t...@prismnet.com wrote: So, unless you could live with all those limitations, I think the MDD has the most available PCI slots you can get. Cool, thanks for that info and analysis. I definitely will stick with the MDD for this. I think it's a fair fit for purpose. On 29/08/12 23:36, Bruce Ryan wrote: Just thinking about your ‘cable soup’ and the number of monitors you have running - hot, easy to trip over and large electricity bill. Might it be worth running some form of VNC on your macs. (VNC, rebadged as ‘screen-sharing’ has been part of Mac OS since 10·3, IIRC.) - For OS9 macs, there’s ‘OS9vnc Server PPC’. I’m using it to observe and control my Pismo from my mac Pro just now. - For logging into and attempting to help with my parents’ PCs, I’ve used TightVNC and ChickenOfTheVNC, IIRC. (Bit slow over the interweb but OK over LAN.) (Before using screen-sharing so much, I used to use a 4-port KVM switch to swap my monitor between Pismo, XServe, main mac and work-provided mac but cables took over my desk and shelves, then eventually the KVM unit became flaky.) I guess VNC might slow your pooters slightly but it might be better than tripping over a cable and dragging loads of kit onto the deck with you. Thanks for pointing that out. The cables are generally OK. Mostly behind the desk. I invest a fair bit of effort into cable management when I set up my work space. I also like to have a dedicated monitor for each machine. I mostly work 'live' (lots of low latency concurrent processing). I like to see what is happening on all my machines without having to switch around. I have also used Synergy before (nice idea), but I also use OS9 and DOS, so no play there. I used to use a KVM. Generally found them to be either cheap rubbish, or rather expensive. I even tried a DOS graphical remote desktop application for integrating one old machine, which was cool, but stupidly slow. Can VNC be used for keyboard/mouse only, without the video? I'm doing some reading on this now. There has been interest in this from others online, but I haven't filtered through all the info yet. PC2VNC will do this, but Windows only. Sill reading ... What I really want to do in this regard, is just share my USB keyboard and mouse between all my machines. I tried a couple of solutions to this already, but didn't really work out. I tried a cheap port KVM. Didn't work at all. Horrible device. I have another old 2 port PS/2 KVM, which is also quite bad. I have used pro KVMs in server racks before, and had no issues. These are not so cheap though. Not sure if they do true keyboard emulation in the disconnected state though. At least on Windows, keyboard interface is stateful (I think this is normal for most machines). To operate correctly, a switch should remember the state, and re-establish this when re connecting. I had trouble finding something with support for OS9, and modern machines, and trouble finding anything decent which is also affordable. I bought a mechanical USB switch, attached a small hub, and switched the keyboard and mouse between the machines. I hoped that USB hot plugging could take care of device recognition in a fast enough and reliable fashion. It didn't work out. On my faster PC, it was fine iirc. My cheap laptop with slightly dodgy USB ports would mostly work. Don't think I got around to trying with DOS. The MDD was a problem. It often didn't work, and sometimes would see keyboard or mouse, not both. One time the MDD was sleeping (I think). I switched to it, and it made and unrecoverable crash. Had to reinstall OS. Not sure what happened. I vaguely recall some issues with sleep on older Macs, but not clear on this at all. I am considering trying two separate mechanical USB switches, with separate keyboard and mouse, hoping that removing the hub might simplify matters enough to allow things to operate sufficiently. Bit of wishful thinking though. Still looking at older pro KVMs too, with a plan to just leave the video disconnected (not all will work correctly this way though). I'm using all VGA monitors ATM, so that should
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
Leo, I would really like to get rid of a few G4's. E-mail me off list and maybe we can work something out. -Jonas On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Leo E. Sancho lsan...@mrtc.com wrote: Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iStat Menus 2, for Leopard
Hi, Recently, I updated my QuickSilver to Leopard. I've got iStat Menus 1.3 installed. It's ok, but a little twitchy to mouse clicks, and the CPU graph isn't showing niced processes correctly. I know, MenuMeters works. But I really really like the multi-time zone clock in iStat Menus. Not interested in paying for iStat Menus 3. Their latest doesn't run on ppc anyway. iStat Menus 2.x supports ppc and Leopard - and is still freeware. But I haven't been able to find it anywhere! Anyone have it? Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
