SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread DLC
Greetings all,
I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane.
I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320
drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to
SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card
from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a
situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower.
Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in
is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go
as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver
running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3).
Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would
sell adapters would be great as well.
Many thanks for any thoughts,
Regards,
Dana

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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Try Trishes Hardware Hell?


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings all,
 I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane.
 I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320
 drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to
 SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card
 from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a
 situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower.
 Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in
 is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go
 as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver
 running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3).
 Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would
 sell adapters would be great as well.
 Many thanks for any thoughts,
 Regards,
 Dana

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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread Len Gerstel

On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:56 PM, DLC wrote:

 Greetings all,
 I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane.
 I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320
 drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to
 SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card
 from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a
 situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower.
 Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in
 is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go
 as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver
 running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3).
 Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would
 sell adapters would be great as well.
 Many thanks for any thoughts,
 Regards,
 Dana

1) SCSI under X is more Voodoo than it EVER was in 9, so go with the Beige. The 
slight speed hit of the slower pci slots is MORE than made up for with hair you 
will keep, and the time for all of your posts here asking for SCSI help.

2) Adaptec cards are my recommendation, if you need a card. Trouble is, if you 
search by card number (2940 etc) many cards that were not cross platform had 
the same model number. ie: There were 2940s for PCs and different firmware 
2940s for Macs. So be careful. 

3) There are many SCA to 68 and 50 pin adapters available. These go directly on 
the back of the drive then you use a standard 50 or 68 pin cable. Unless you 
are doing data intensive work, just go with the cheapest setup.

AAAGGGHH Durn failing memory...

Beiges have onboard 50 pin SCSI. Just get one of the SCA to 50 pin adapters and 
plug into the fully supported onboard scsi on the beige. These adapters are 
available on ebay for under $5 shipped. I am sure you can easily beat this on 
the swap list. This adapters are just wiring/plug adapters with no (IIRC) 
electronic conversions. So they all should work with no compatibility problems.

I ran many sca drives in my beiges with those adapters with never any problems. 

As to stores, depends what is nearby to you. I only have access to MicroCenters 
and some small shops near me, but they are expensive $39.99(low turnover, low 
demand item). But the swap list should be able to get you one in a couple of 
days. Heck, someone could overnight one to you for less than MicroCenter's 
price.

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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread Bill Connelly
 
 On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:56 PM, DLC wrote:
 
 Many thanks for any thoughts,
 Regards,
 Dana
 

I believe I have this one in my Yikes! running Tiger IIRC:

ATTO ExpressPCI PSC SCSI Controller Card
Features:
Model # 0042-PCBX-002
Working Pull from a Power Mac G3
External 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector
Internal 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector
Internal 50-pin Standard SCSI connector

Got it off ebay years ago.

Also dealt with MC Price Breakers to help solve all my SCSI problems, but I can 
no longer find them on the net. Maybe out of business by now?

Been years.

Best of luck.


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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread DLC
Thank you, gentlemen, for responding. You're info is helping my memory. 
Len, I followed yor lead and found a good 80-68-50 SCA adapter on eBay for 
under $4 shipped, so hurrah! Thank you. Bill, I believe our card at school 
was indeed an Atto - the only one Digidesign approved for ProTools at that 
time, iirc.
Will check Trish's Hardware Hell; never heard of it :-)
Thanks again,
Dana

On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:56:38 PM UTC-5, DLC wrote:

 Greetings all, 
 I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane. 
 I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320 
 drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to 
 SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card 
 from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a 
 situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower. 
 Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in 
 is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go 
 as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver 
 running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3). 
 Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would 
 sell adapters would be great as well. 
 Many thanks for any thoughts, 
 Regards, 
 Dana 


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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

2013-01-13 Thread DLC
Hi Bill,
I just snagged this very card for a good price from eBay, Apple ROMMed - I 
cannot remember if I need a driver/extension for this or not. Do you know? 
( plan on using OS 9.2.2 unless otherwise determined).
Thanks,
Dana

On Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:55:10 PM UTC-5, billycarmacs wrote:

  
  On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:56 PM, DLC wrote: 
  
  Many thanks for any thoughts, 
  Regards, 
  Dana 
  

 I believe I have this one in my Yikes! running Tiger IIRC: 

 ATTO ExpressPCI PSC SCSI Controller Card 
 Features: 
 Model # 0042-PCBX-002 
 Working Pull from a Power Mac G3 
 External 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector 
 Internal 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector 
 Internal 50-pin Standard SCSI connector 

 Got it off ebay years ago. 

 Also dealt with MC Price Breakers to help solve all my SCSI problems, but 
 I can no longer find them on the net. Maybe out of business by now? 

 Been years. 

 Best of luck. 




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