Re: Linux question
On 11/15/12 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:29 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Apple itself also uses a lot of OSS in the depth of Mac OS X. Just the GUI, “Aqua”, and the applications are closed source by Apple. Even the browser uses OSS: WebKit. Indeed so, including much of the OS X kernel, which predates the founding of Apple Inc (formerly Apple Computer Inc) by several years. Just invoke, say, on a Hackintosh, OS X using the -v (verbose) boot option, and you will immediately see the BSD (Berkeley Standard Distribution) copyright, Copyright by The Regents of The University of California, and an exhaustive list of copyright years, many of which pre-date the founding of Apple itself. Well according to the canonical listing of the Unix Family Tree, (http://www.levenez.com/unix/) BSD1 dates to 1978; so Apple Predates BSD, although ATT Unix predates Apple by several years. Also Apple is one of the few companies to have produced version on both sides of the Great Schism; between System V and BSD. OS X is based on the BSD line (why the Califoria Board Of Regents copyrights are there) but A/UX, Apples FIRST Unix, was a System V-based system. The opnly other one I'm familiar with is HP's HPUX, which was a frankenunix cobbled together from the corpses of HP's original workstation versions (based on System V) and Apollo's (based on BSD) when HP swallowed them up. shudder Burn it. Burn it with fire! Commands were an unpredicatble mix of BSD and SysV syntax. And, believe it or not, there was a time (mid-90's) when Apple was actually developing their own flavor of linux, called MKLinux. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where can I find a good explanation on using Migration Assistant?
This is the way I like to do it, except that during the OS install, I name the first account I create admin, and leave it on the computer just in case - once in a very great while, you need to login to an administrator account that's different from your user account for maintenance, troubleshooting, or recovery. Stephen On 8/25/12 4:55 AM, faithie999 wrote: to emphasize and build on Bruce's advice above, here's how i would do it: a) if you can install your G4 HD as a second HD in your G5: install 10.5.x on the G5 new HD. during the setup dialog after install, choose a user name other than the one that you used on the G4. i use Test. run migration assistant, and since you're transferring from another disk rather than another mac you don't need to go thru the pairing process (my term) described in apple's KB article. in the migration assistant dialog, choose to transfer everything that is on your G4 HD. after the migration is complete, log out of the Test user, and log in as your normal user. go to system prefs--users and groups and delete the user Test. b) if you can't or don't want to temporarily install your G4 HD as a second drive in your G5, then you will still set up a new user on your G5 after the 10.5.x install, but follow the steps in migration assistant to transfer from another mac instead of from another disk. good luck -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't delete user account
On 8/1/12 7:37 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: stats: G4 iMac (goose neck one); 10.4.xx; I have an Administrator account I gave my old iMac to a teenage boy. I kept myself as Administrator and made his account Administrator, too. He just gave the computer to his sister. I need to delete his account, but he doesn't remember his password. I have logged into the computer and tried to delete his account. However, the - sign is grayed out and it won't let me select it. Yesterday, I inserted the install CD that came with the iMac and tried to reset his password. I chose to leave the password box blank actually no password --- thinking that would be easier. BUT when I logged in again, the - sign was still grayed out. AND apparently the new password didn't take because it kept hinting at the old password. Any suggestions on how to delete his account? His sister needs the room on the hard drive because he has added lots of stuff in his User account - which I can't delete because I don't have his password! Jane Did you select the account name and click on the + sign at the bottom to allow admin edit access? Simple thing, I sometimes forget myself and drive meself bonkers trying to figure it out! Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Eudora replacement
On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Eudora replacement
Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote. Stephen On 7/22/12 5:13 AM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are still in beta. Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a true Eudora replacement. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
On 4/21/12 7:27 PM, Old G4 wrote: Hello All: I need your opinions on the following: My G4 MDD is nearing the end of its miserable life (bad power supply, power manager system, starting problems, etc.). I want a G5 PowerMac for internet, video encoding, a little Halo and Star Trek, etc., but I _need_ the least power draw with the most reliability I can get as my machine is usually on 22.5 hours a day. Grizzledgiant Grizzled: I hate to break the news to you, but in general, G5 PowerMacs are gas-guzzlers and run pretty hot. I had a 2.0 dual for a while, and it definitely heated the room, even on standby. And I'm in coastal Alaska where it barely breaks 65F in the summer! That said, you are right, definitely avoid the water cooled models, they can be problematic, especially if it will be running unattended for long periods of time. And a lower end video card will also help with the power draw, I had a pretty high end ATI (X300?) in mine. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: advice on getting a dual G5`
I had a late model dual 2.0 PCIx G5 for a while, it was great for graphics with an upgraded video card and had loads of processor power. It was the fastest one without water cooling, so I would look for one of those. Stephen On 4/9/12 4:16 PM, Jackie wrote: I'm looking to upgrade to a dual G5 in the near future. I do a little graphic design (Quark 6.0 and Photoshop 4.0), need access to classic. I don't do any gaming. I've seen comments made about staying away from liquid cooled models (2.5 DP PCIx model 9457 and 2.7 DP PCI-x model 9749). Are there others? Can anyone make a recommendation? Thanks, Jackie Easton, PA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashback Malware Hits 600,000 Macs???
On 4/6/12 6:35 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:48 AM -0400 4/6/2012, Kristina Rost wrote: http://www.techlicious.com/blog/flashback-malware-hits-60-macs/http://www.techlicious.com/blog/flashback-malware-hits-60-macs/ .8 snip! 8... 3. Because Java is a dying language, Apple is no longer including it with OS X by default. So most newer Mac owners don't even have it installed ... unless they're using one of the many apps that require it. :\ You obviously don't have any kids that play Minecraft! But the part about OLD is correct. I couldn't get Minecraft to run on my wife's old white MacBook running Tiger because the version of Java was too old. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Migration Assistant question
Which version of OS on the G4 and which on the iMac? Stephen On 3/11/12 4:25 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote: Just finished moving the content of a G4 emac to an Intel iMac. Files, apps and documents all moved as planned but none of the data. No bookmarks in any of the browsers or data used by various applications. These can be rebuilt but it will be a pain. Suggestions? TIA -Roger -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Migration Assistant question
I had a MacBook Pro once do something very strange when I did a migration once between those two exact versions. Things ended up in strange places in the home directory. I had to manually move some items into the correct places. Do a search and see if that happened. You might just find it where you least expect it. Stephen On 3/11/12 6:04 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote: G4 = 10.4.11 G5 = 10.6 -RF On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net mailto:sbod...@gci.net wrote: Which version of OS on the G4 and which on the iMac? Stephen On 3/11/12 4:25 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote: Just finished moving the content of a G4 emac to an Intel iMac. Files, apps and documents all moved as planned but none of the data. No bookmarks in any of the browsers or data used by various applications. These can be rebuilt but it will be a pain. Suggestions? TIA -Roger -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: going to an Intel iMac
On 1/8/12 4:52 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/01/07 09:54, Stephen E. Bodnar so eloquently wrote: Very well said. Having done this very same migration numerous times, there is one gotcha - let Migration Assistant create the new user on the new (target) machine and not update an existing account. Otherwise, weird things happen with permissions. Good to know, thank you Stephen. This explains my less than satisfactory experience with Migration Assistant. Tina The way I usually move a user to a new machine, is to install the OS on the new machine, make an administrator type user called admin, install all the big apps under the admin account, then use Migration Assistant to create and move the old user from the old machine. I don't copy the Applications over from the old one, I install them new because 1) the new OS generally installs them differently and Migration Assistant can't always handle this 2) there are generally new versions of the apps anyways. My last update on Intel side was from 10.6 to 10.7. I updated the Adobe Suite from CS3 to CS5.5 along the way, and my prefs date all the way back to a G5 PowerMac running 10.4. It worked just fine, and Adobe stuff is one of the pickiest. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: going to an Intel iMac
On 1/7/12 7:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why not just use a file manager utility to move your wanted files? The simple old fashioned way to batch process ? Because tools like Migration Assistant take care of all the niggling little issues of moving account information over and find EVERYTHING, doing repetitive, mindless tasks like a gorram computer SHOULD, freeing up the human mind for tasks better suited to our unique processing power :-) Very well said. Having done this very same migration numerous times, there is one gotcha - let Migration Assistant create the new user on the new (target) machine and not update an existing account. Otherwise, weird things happen with permissions. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
On 11/16/11 2:54 AM, dc wrote: On Nov 15, 9:01 pm, Stephen E. Bodnarsbod...@gci.net wrote: I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for Christmas. If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot buttered rums and counting birds, that's OK too. I forgot to mention, this is the most random Mac advice I've read i a long time! Oopsie, posted to the wrong list! Any bird brains around here doing the Christmas bird count this year? We compile the results on a Mac ;-) Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for Christmas. If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot buttered rums and counting birds, that's OK too. Stephen On 11/15/11 9:51 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:21 AM -0800 11/15/2011, Bruce Godfrey wrote: do you have any data on how much difference a fast SCSI drive makes in a MDD Multiple factors. The drive has to be able to throw data at x speed. (read and write cycles are usually quite different)! The drive's hardware cache has has be large enough to be able to buffer sufficient data to keep both the mechanism and i/o bus busy. And the i/o bus, be it IDE or SCSI or ..., has to be able to throw the data quickly. In my experience, the drive's capabilities are usually the bottleneck. And be careful of the version and bit widths of the i/o bus. Firewire, btw, is actually a form of SCSI 3. Wikipedia has some very nice articles that include tables comparing bus speeds... As far as getting the best performance overall... Optimize speed, capacity, and especially cost. Your best bet is a SATA controller and 7200rpm or faster SATA drives. That way the drives are inexpensive *and* usable in future machines! fwiw, - Dan. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Key command close all windows
The trick I use requires a single mouse click - hold down the option key and close the front window Stephen On 11/10/11 7:04 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: I there a key command that will close all windows on 10.5 on a G5 PPC? Short of a restart? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD + FCE2
On 11/3/11 1:30 AM, Avid_Fan wrote: Hello! I'm running Final Cut Express 2 on my G4 MDD. When capturing footage the window freezes after 5 minutes every time and after a quick search it would appear it's because I need to use an older version of Quicktime. I didn't get install discs with my machine but have found original G4 MDD installation discs for £12, result! This will mean a re-install to 10.3.2. If i do this Is there anything I should be aware of regards compatibility of other programmes etc? Can the automatic update be disabled so i don't update QT by mistake.? For example I use iTunes and an iphone3G on the same machine, any issues there? Cheers, Evan Does it say what version of QT? Quicktime 7 Pro is the Swiss Army Knife of the older QT versions and works well with FCE. The free version is out on the Interwebitubes and it can be updated to Pro for just a few sheckles. FCE2 is a bit long in the tooth, but I wouldn't reinstall the OS just to get Quicktime. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mapping Out Bad Sectors
On 10/4/11 6:08 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: If you zero out a hard drive with Disk Utility to map out the bad blocks, are they notated in a permanent fashion or will a simple reformat lose the bad block map. In a modern drive, the defects map is created when the drive is manufactured and it is stored in a ROM within the drive. Therefore, all drives report that every sector is good. I am unaware of a method for recreating the contents of that ROM. Low-level format. This will re-write the bad block map on a hard drive. It is not what Disk Utility does when it zeroes the data, it only rewrites those reported to the OS as good. No need to zero the bad blocks, if data is going there, it's lost! When a drive has enough bad blocks to require a low-level format, it's usually on the way out anyways. If you monitor SMART on a modern drive, you can see the errors. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie
The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system quite a bit. At least it did on my old G4! As to video capture, if you're not going totally Pro, I've had really good luck with the Grass Valley firewire units. I currently have an ADVC-300 and have also used an ADVC-110. If you need HDMI in, though, these won't work. I just upgraded to an Aja LHi in my Intel Mac Pro so my ADVC-300 will soon be on the market ;-) Stephen On 6/14/11 9:13 AM, S T wrote: Most of my main concern tends to be regarding capture cards... how to get the video INTO the program I'm using, whichever that one will be. I may be spoield coming from an all-Amiga background. And tehn again, I may eb facing the same hurdles I did with the Amiga: multi-thousand-dollar pieces of machinery I never could afford without cheating on my taxes. :D I priced a complete build-it-myself system once using just entry-level equipment and it was close to $10K. NOT good. As for internals, I'm strongly considering a 2-SATA PCI card to put in, then adding a couple of 1+ TB Drives. the 80 and 160 I hve now are fine, but for future expansion... Then again, I may just stick with app development (the SDK works on the G4, surprisingly!) with an intel-based Mac Mini or a MB Pro, if I can find an affordable one. That's always been my major beef with Apple. Great hardware, but too expensive. Since my skills are software anyway, this sounds like the best way to go. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie
On 6/14/11 5:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system quite a bit. At least it did on my old G4! I'd like to see some benchmarks for before after so that we'd have some real data. There are plenty of anecdotal reports, but real data is hard to find. In order to make the test fair, you'd need to clone your HDs so that they're both as identical as possible. It's not enough to simply clone the old ATA HD onto the new SATA HD, you'd then need to re-clone the new SATA HD back onto the old ATA HD. A lot to ask for a simple benchmark test, might take hours, so it's clear why it's done so rarely. It also makes quite a bit of difference how they are setup and how they are used. If they are RAID 0, of course they will be faster, at risk of data loss. Since he was talking about video, that is a very intensive disc application so the test would have to be with massive read/writes as you would do in video editing. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie
There are many different flavors of RAID. RAID 0, which I was referring too, is pretty standard in video setups. You have two identical drives side by side, you fill the write buffer on one drive until it squeals, then, in the time that normally the computer would stop writing because the first disc can't accept any more data, the other second drive can start writing. So it speeds up disc writes considerably by alternating writes between the two drives. The downside is that it is pretty hard on the hard drives mechanically, so they tend to fail sooner. And because of the random data layout on the drives, if you lose one drive, you lose everything. Other types of RAID provide varying degrees of data integrity irrespective of hard drive health They are used mostly in server type machines because they are a pain to deal with on the desktop, good backups are nearly as good unless you can't afford any downtime. Written from the trenches... Stephen On 6/14/11 6:03 PM, S T wrote: I honestly never understood the purpose behind a RAID setup. Maybe I dn't understand it, but it seems to me if you have 4 1 TB drives set up in a RAID you just have 1TB duplicated 4 times. Makes losing one or two drives meaningless in this case, and that's the point. But you're talking about 1 TB, not 4. Then again, 1TB is a LOT of space. but the principle's the same. Unless I'm missing the boat completely. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net mailto:sbod...@gci.net wrote: On 6/14/11 5:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system quite a bit. At least it did on my old G4! [snip] It also makes quite a bit of difference how they are setup and how they are used. If they are RAID 0, of course they will be faster, at risk of data loss. Since he was talking about video, that is a very intensive disc application so the test would have to be with massive read/writes as you would do in video editing. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
Yep, getting lots of them. All with this username - trinettejohn...@fuse.net Stephen On 6/11/11 11:43 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago? -- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
On 1/3/11 9:04 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:07 AM -0500 1/4/2011, Yersinia wrote: On 1/3/11 10:26 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey Daile Engle wrote: I want to know where the Folder is that holds the trash? is there such thing? And what are you plotting to do to them? In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible to Finder. If they're invisible, how do you know they're there? You spray them with anti-invisible spray! dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al drwx-- 6 dan dan 204 Jan 3 22:18 .Trash dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al / d-wx-wx-wt 2 root admin 68 Aug 21 2008 .Trashes You can view their contents with ls commands in Terminal. Or from Finder, you can directly open the folders. - Dan. If you really, really, really need to see all the hidden files and folders in the finder, you can pull the old programmer's trick. Enter these two lines as admin in the console, but be aware the last will restart the finder: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE killall Finder More details are on these two webpages: http://nixtechnica.blogspot.com/2007/05/mac-os-x-show-hidden-files-and-folders.html http://www.mactricksandtips.com/2008/04/show-hidden-files.html But I'm not really sure that you'll want to litter your desktop like that! Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: M-Audio
Sounds like I need version 9. Thanks for the heads up. Stephen On 12/1/10 3:06 PM, TVirkkala wrote: It's ProTools 9 that has liberated the user from the box. You've gotta pay for that liberation! Strange, I installed the 8.0.0 ProTools LE that came with my MBox2, and it won't run unless the Mbox2 is connected. It also trashed my Snow Leopard, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The ReadMe said to disable a whole host of useful services in order for it to run. I did just download the 8.04 update, but haven't had a chance to install it. Only a 1.7 GB (groan!) download. But I'll give it a whirl since it sounds like they fixed lots of stuff. Timo V PowerPC G5x2.3GHz MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 / Power Macintosh 5500 / Macintosh SE/30 / Macintosh Classic -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: M-Audio
On 11/30/10 2:58 PM, TVirkkala wrote: The latest edition ... A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new products they should make. It was returned to them with every free form space marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never going to happen… of ProTools reversed course and allowed use of their software without hardware attached. A first for all flavors of Pro Tools (I use M-Powered 8, which works with my M-Audio Fast Track Ulta). It looks like things may be changing in the Pro Tools/M-Audio world. Timo V PowerPC G5x2.3GHz MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 / Power Macintosh 5500 / Macintosh SE/30 / Macintosh Classic Strange, I installed the 8.0.0 ProTools LE that came with my MBox2, and it won't run unless the Mbox2 is connected. It also trashed my Snow Leopard, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The ReadMe said to disable a whole host of useful services in order for it to run. I did just download the 8.04 update, but haven't had a chance to install it. Only a 1.7 GB (groan!) download. But I'll give it a whirl since it sounds like they fixed lots of stuff. I had a 2496 for a while in my G4 under Tiger and moved it to a G5 running 10.4.11. It caused all manners of grief, crashes, lockups, and not waking up from Sleep. I finally sold it to a windoze sucked on fleabay. Don't ask me why I bought the Mbox2. I'm on an Intel Mac now. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: proper mic for iMic on a G5
On 9/12/10 10:20 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: I am trying to use iMic on a G5 with a headset w/ mic. All the sets I find so far, have a stereo mic plug. Has anyone seen a headset w/ a mono plug. Or will a stereo to mono adapter work? They are trying to talk on WOW via ventrilo. The jacks are designed so that when you plug in a stereo plug, it is stereo, and when you plug in a mono plug, it goes mono. No adapter needed. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how long to install an update?
In addition to what Netamicky said, if you have a chance to download it somewhere else over broadband and either burn it to CD/DVD or put it on a USB key and copy it over to her computer that way, it will go much smoother. My sister used to be on dial-up, so I used to download all the updaters this way and mail her a CD. Stephen On 8/1/10 6:26 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 01/08/10 8:01 AM, Linda wrote: I have my sister's iMac running 10.5.5: 2.4 GHz Intel core duo processor she doesn't deserve a machine like this! she has dial up and has not updated since she bought this computer a few years ago. Anyway I had her bring it to me since I have a cable connection. I ran system updater but when I got the system 10 update combined for 10.5.8 I can't seem to get it to install. I set it up last night and this morning only about a tenth of the install bar had completed. the file is 768MB large. How long should this take? She was hoping to take it home this afternoon. Linda in Ohio It has taken more than it should. I will go directly to Apple's downloads and download the update as you would from, say, Version Tracker. Then run the .dmg update file and update the machine that way. I think it's called Combo update on Apple's website, but once you're there, read closely, you'd get it. Besides, using the direct updater has been known to result in errors. It's nice of you to update her machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Multiple address books possible?
On 5/19/10 5:07 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 19, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Dan wrote: At 9:44 AM -0700 5/19/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: Is there any way to have more than one Address book per user? One of our people has synched her address book and iCal with her boss to manage it, but she needs one for her own addresses. I've looked around and there's lots of stuff about sharing address books with multiple people, but nothing about one person having multiple address books. Bet those apps will blindly follow symlinks. Set up two trees - one of her files and one of her boss'ss Use a script to quit the apps, switch symlinks, launch apps... And in a week she'll come crying to me that somehow one address book got synched over the other or they're both melded now. This is for the Dean of the College, he has a HUGE address book. Looks like she'll be using Thunderbird. Thunderbird was what I was going to recommend. It will let you keep multiple independent users and address books. I'm using the Eudora beta 8.0b9 in 10.6.3, which is built on Thunderbird 3.0.1, and it's pretty darned stable. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bus speeds
On 4/4/10 7:35 AM, John Carmonne wrote: PATA drives are getting rare and ATA133 even rarer. The speed improvement would be very marginal, and I would recommend looking for a 64-bit wide SATA interface instead, which would mean you can use a modern SATA drive with a big cache and a fast rotational speed. My MDD has four hard drive bays so can one SeriTek/1V4 PCI-X Serial ATA controller with four internal SATA connectors do the job? Does all the power come off one Molex connector? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP I had an 867 Quicksilver that had 4 drives with a SeriTek card. It also had a dual 1.6 GHz upgrade. It ran really hot, but it ran. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
On 4/4/10 10:30 AM, Eric Volker wrote: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done a clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers. My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections. Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer firewire and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are hard to find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really good reviews and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, they come with Pro Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage Band here I come ;-) Stephen Hi Stephen (and others on the list) If you read the other thread Re: Kernal Panics, Was ..., you'll see the trouble I just had ... seem to be back up ... til the next kp ... I'm doing some VHS to DV conversion, and I read along the way that USB wasn't as good as FW when it comes to real time transfer of data ... USB is in bursts and FW is more continuous (as I understand it). Not sure how this applies to audio ... if you're just transferring recorded data it might be ok ... if you're digitizing audio, its not, as I see it. But if you're going from today's devices to the Mac, you're already digitized ... May have nothing to do with your application ... I had wanted to merge my Yamaha motif es8 keyboard output, with Sibelius playback, and possibly mix in my horn recording at a later date. Trying to do this in real time ... using Sibelius / Keyboard as my accompanist. All controlled by my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz tied together by a Mackie 1402 VLZPro mixer ... Wonder if there's a way we could fix those access / permissions and such? I had an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 in my Mac for a long time. In my 800MHz Quicksilver 2002 under older versions of Tiger it worked pretty well. However, when I got a dual G5 I began having many issues. From what I can tell, the old M-Audio driver really did not like dual CPUs. I eventually moved it to a Hackintosh where, against all reason, it worked flawlessly with a driver whipped up by an amateur hacker. M-Audio does have some new Leopard drivers available that I haven't tried yet, but I wouldn't expect much. For my G5, I eventually went with a PCI card that added a PCMCIA slot to the G5, and plugged in an Echo Indigo IO. It was a bear to set up, but once up was rock solid - and sounded great too. Note that I am not a musician nor a sound engineer, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Eric Aha! The dual processor is probably the issue. My old Quicksilver had a dual CPU upgrade. I just ordered a USB M-Box 2 as a replacement since my next Mac will probably be an Intel iMac, and I'll use it sometimes with my wife's MacBook. It will be interesting to see how it behaves with the dual G5. Maybe I'll keep the 2496 and get a hackintosh! Do you have a link to the amateur driver? It's probably more professional than what the amateurs at M-Audio put out. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
On 4/2/10 6:51 AM, billycar_G3-5 wrote: This is the behavior I referred to above (I don't know what other audio card to suggest): Having recently downloaded a lot of upgrades (FCE 4, Quicktime, iTunes, Security update, etc) ... I just got 3 kps in a row ... 2 between restart using the Programmer's button ... 1 on next Cold Boot ... finally went through, after I turned on a FW device I had turned off during the last session where the Mac seemed to be running well (not sure if this is this kps cause). I noticed each kp seemed to load more, by looking at the end of the panic log (not the top) ... don't know how to pinpoint the problem. Its possibly not the M-Audio drivers ... possibly a problem with M- Audio setting of Permissions ... their Uninstall doesn't work under Leopard, and I have to Uninstall manually ... tells me their support is incomplete ... Any suggestions? I'm now using applejack in Single User Mode to autopilot a possible solution ... Repairs Disk, Permissions, empties caches, etc. I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done a clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers. My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections. Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer firewire and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are hard to find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really good reviews and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, they come with Pro Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage Band here I come ;-) Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
G5 and M-audio crash on boot
A bit off topic, but maybe somebody here has some ideas! My G5 2.0 Duely with Tiger (10.4.11) will often hang on boot - all the fans running full speed and the dreaded screen saying hold down power button for 5 seconds... which I do, and eventually the thing will boot. When I look through the logs, M-audio is always right there at the top of the list. I have an M-Audio 2496 PCI card in it that I use a lot for digitizing music. I see complaints on the tubes about how lousy the M-Audio drivers are. Anybody else find a solution? I'm considering dumping the card and going to a firewire audio digitizing solution. The built-in audio isn't quite good enough. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/6/10 10:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works seamlessly on those boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA The iMate is worth a try. I'd be interested to know if it works. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Greetings: There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot OS9, like the Quicksilvers. Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Another Firefox ?
On 2/17/10 7:36 AM, DAN A CURRIE wrote: Hello All, I am driving a G5 2.5 dualie, running 10.5 with .5TB hard drive space. I just made the move from Netscape 9.0.0.6 to Firefox 3.6 and while it was mostly a seamless transition, once I brought my bookmarks over an issue arose. Now when I click on BOOKMARKS on the menu bar the fans are off to the races for the next 20-25 seconds and I can NOT access the bookmarks until they return to normal. I have completely re-installed Firefox and re-imported the bookmarks but still the same!! Please - HELP!? Dan II Greetings - I too had a similar problem with Firefox. It boiled down to 2 things - too many bookmarks, and many links were stale. So Firefox is trying to index them all. My solution was to just take the time, visit every bookmark, weed out the stale ones, and move them all into folders. Now it is off to the races when I go to the bookmarks, except this time I win! Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 problem?
Jeff: Don't know what the kernel report says eggzactly, but my G5 used to do this on a regular basis. It turned out to be a rogue application. In my case, I had been using the CodeTek Virtual Desktop. An Apple software update hosed it, so I had to uninstall. The uninstall still left a few pieces behind, and I had to search them all out. When I removed them, the jet takeoffs ceased. Hope this helps. Stephen Jeffrey Engle wrote: Powered up my G5 2.3ghz 5gb ram running leopard 10.5.8, then went to take a shower... came back to sleeping monitor and fans running at full speed. Checked the log and this is what I got. Anybody know how to read it? Thanks in advance, Jeff Interval Since Last Panic Report: 131534 sec Panics Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID:10C6C46F-CE7C-477C-92F8-FC97D168236F Sun Oct 4 09:03:50 2009 panic(cpu 0 caller 0x002C7B30): m_free: freeing an already freed mbuf@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.15.4/bsd/kern/uipc_mbuf.c:3574 Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x0009CC88 0x0009D63C 0x00029DA0 0x002C7B30 0x0073B3B4 0x00753F00 0x007543B0 0x00747F00 0x00747C80 0x0074847C 0x00740994 0x0012F0E0 0x0019F10C 0x00195CBC 0x001A70FC 0x002D427C 0x002DA540 0x002DA8D4 0x003100AC 0x000B4448 0x Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.asante.driver.AsanteGigaNIX_1000TA(2.4.1)@0x74f000- 0x756fff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x73 com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x73-0x74efff Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x61c1e500) PC=0x946F65F8; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x5A62C000; DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x9472BB78; R1=0xBFFFEF50; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call) BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mDNSResponder Mac OS version: 9L31a Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC System model name: PowerMac7,3 System uptime in nanoseconds: 1166699408593 unloaded kexts: com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 6914636545 loaded kexts: com.Ralink.driver.RT2870USBWirelessDriver 1.2.4 com.asante.driver.AsanteGigaNIX_1000TA2.4.1 com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5 - last loaded 4191180533 com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2 com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6 com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2 com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0 com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock 1.5.2d0 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor1.9d0 com.apple.driver.PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0d0 com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleLM7x1.9d0 com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7 com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage 1.5.2d0 com.apple.ATIRadeon9700 5.4.8 com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2 com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver1.7.2f1 com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0 com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.Apple_iSight 1.1.4 com.apple.driver.AppleMaxim6690 1.9d0 com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1 com.apple.driver.AppleAD741x 1.9d0 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDMouse 1.2.4b3 com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8 com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver1.1.0 com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 1.0.9b4 com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver1.0 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.6 com.apple.driver.LSI_FW_500 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.Oxford_Semi 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.initioFWBridge 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolSansPhysicalUnit 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.StorageLynx 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: installing Classic over Tiger
Richard Gerome wrote: I have been trying to install OS 9.2.2 in my G4 Titanium Powerbook running Tiger 10.4.11 for almost a yr and I'm not having any luck either... The 9.2.2 disc I have came with my OS 10.1 I used in my Clamshell 366, it wont even take the disc??? So I downloaded that OS 9.2.2 thing from the Apple website and that won't take either??? The only reason I'm even trying to do this is for my scanner and Photoshop 6.0 it needs to run on OS 9, either booted from the Startup disk or running under classic mode nothing is working and I am lost??? I'm just going to do this on my clamshell when ever I need to scan something and then I could down load it to my iPod and transfer it to my G4 Powerbook instead... I've been following this thread and having no luck with it at all... I really do not think it can be done unless I can get the orginal 9.2.2 disc that was made for this computer if there ever was one??? CoolKat The only way I've successfully been able to do this was to first install System 9 to an external USB or firewire drive on a System 9 bootable Mac, and install all the updates and drivers through that machine. When I installed OS X I made sure to install the System 9 drivers to the boot disc. Then I just plugged in the external drive to the new OS X machine and copied the OS 9 System Folder into a folder at the root level of the boot drive named Classic. Then I went into the System Preferences and blessed that particular System Folder. Some things never worked though, like sound. I really like the original Tetris but it flies so fast on this G5 I can't get very far, and the sound never makes it through. Guess I'll have to find an old Plus to show the kid what the real Tetris is. Hope this helps, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
hardware RAID on a G5
Yo- Does anyone out there have any experience running hardware RAID on a G5? I'm hoping to replace my pile-o'-sata (4 drives to be exact) with a 2 x 1TB RAID 1 array. EveryMac shows my machine as a Power Macintosh G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2, M9455LL/A (PowerMac7,3). It's running Tiger 10.4.11. All the current RAID cards I see now are listed as for the Intel Macs and I don't see any compatibility listed for PPC macs. Mine currently has a SeriTek card installed for the 2 extra drives but that only does software RAID as does the onboard controller. Thanks, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the unsubscribe may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though! You do have a google login. You may not know the password, but you do have a Google account, since that's how you were 'grandfathered in'. And for the paranoid, all google needs for your login is your email addresswhich it already has, duh! Wandering a bit off-topic, apologies. Yes, I know, there is a Google account with my name on it. There's a difference here, but to me it does show a bit of paranoia, in this age of stolen identities. I don't have a Google account because I never set it up. Someone else set it up using my name and email. It matters to me right now because our beloved University I work at has just moved all their email over to Google. What a mess, I'm the tech that deals with it at the desktop end. They set up an account for me with a non-intuitive username so everyone can get it wrong. And calendars? It was supposed to solve the calendar mess so everyone would work off the same page. Instead, everyone has two or three of their own calendars and then invites you to join theirs. So now there are hundreds I'm expected to wade through. Sheesh. /rant Apologies again for list off-topic Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups
Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: Go to http://groups.google.com/ and select Sign in. Enter your subscribed email address and password. You may also want to check Stay signed in. Google Groups will display a list of al groups that this email address is subscribed to. Click on Manage my memberships - this is where you can change your nickname, your subscribed email address, and your subscription type (how you receive messages from the group). Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the unsubscribe may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though! Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What OCR for Leopard?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Aug 24, 7:04 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Abbyy Fine Reader is $100 http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/ It at least runs on modern macs :-) Bruce: This looks like an excellent candidate with a nice support tail. Do you have any feedback on Abbyy Fine Reader on campus? Nope, I just found it via google. I haven't run into anyone wanting to do OCR on a Mac (or a PC for that matter) in a long time. We have the PC version of Abby Fine Reader at work, and it works really well, when you can finally figure out how to use it. Very difficult user interface. I didn't see it mentioned, but if you just happen to have access to the full version of Adobe Acrobat, there is an OCR module built-in. I haven't used it so I can't testify to it's ability or agility. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
tonycd wrote: Personally, I love the clicky feel. I'm typing this on a Matias Tactile Pro (an original, not a 2 -- these are REALLY unavailable now). Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? Well, I've got a Matias now because the iMate wasn't officially supported above 10.3 and it had some serious sleep issues. I'd usually have to unplug my Quicksilver form the wall if it went to sleep with the iMate and Apple Extended II keyboard attached. Sure was nice for typing though! The Matias website lists my Tactile Pro 2.0 for Mac (White) as SOLD OUT – DISCONTINUED Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Regards Santa I'm surprised that Dan didn't pipe up, but there are numerous articles on the Low End Mac website about this very topic. Personally, I don't like the newer Apple keyboards much either, I make WAY too many mistakes no matter how hard I try! I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I guess they don't make it any more. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Lightning Season
Clark Martin wrote: Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: Clark Martin wrote: At the school I worked at we had a local fire marshall come through and they had no problems with daisy chaining power strips but wouldn't allow any power strips hanging off an extension cord (which carries the same protection. This despite the fact that adequate wall outlets weren't provided in the new buildings, something that would have been required by code in any house but since they were public buildings they were exempt. Interesting...at the University site where I work, that's one of the first things the fire marshals here look for - daisy chained surge protectors. And they write us up when they find them. Also, extension cords as permanent wiring. We sure keep the local electrical contractor busy! Of course, when the electrician gets here to put in a new outlet (I could do it but I'm not certified, another issue!) he just chuckles and says, You should look at the fire marshal's office Each fire marshall has their own interpretation of the code and what is important in it. We also go some strange observations, ones that couldn't have been although things may have got lost in translation. For me the tricky part was to locate power strips with long cords, upwards of 25'. Actually, that was this particular fire marshal's suggestion. They make surge protectors and outlet strips with very long cords - at the hardware store here up to 15' but like you said, I know they make 25 footers. This eliminated quite a few daisy chains. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless USB dongle software installer won't open
Tom wrote: I bought one of these nifty USB wireless adapters http://tinyurl.com/ 66egqs for my wife's G4 MDD 1.4 GB running 10.4.11, and it works great. I just plugged the dongle into a USB port, installed the software from the included CD, and her Mac now has access to the Internet from the antenna on our Zoom DSL modem at the other end of the house (sitting atop a G5 and plugged into its Ethernet port). I decided it would be nice to do the same for another G4 we have, a 2002 Quicksilver 1 GB also running 10.4.11, so I bought a second one of these gadgets. However, for some reason I can't figure out, the installer for the software won't work in the Quicksilver. The folder on the installer CD opens up and shows the installer package icon, and double-clicking on the icon makes it zoom out like it's going to work, but no window appears. I thought maybe the installer CD was defective, so tried the one that came with the first dongle, but it won't open either. Then I tried downloading the software off the NewerTech website and transferring it to the Quicksilver with a flash drive, but that installer won't open either. Next I tried logging in from a second account, but the installer won't work that way either. The installer .pkg just won't open up. Anybody got any idea what could be preventing this software installer from working in the Quicksilver? Does the dongle require USB 2.0? I'm not sure if the 2002 has it. I had to add a PCI card on my old Quicksilver for USB 2.0. The installer may not run if it doesn't see the dongle. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual Monitor - spanning behavior
Paul Kemner wrote: HiI recently got a g4 FW800. I'm currently using a VGA monitor on the DVI port, and I'm thinking of getting a 17 Studio LCD to plug into the ADC port. I'm planning on using the LCD monitor alone most of the time, but using the VGA monitor in spanning mode occasionally for graphics/drafting. If I do this, I will probably have the VGA monitor on a KVM switch, and the VGA will also be connected to a linux PC (I just won't bother to plug the keyboard into the switch). My question: If the VGA monitor is switched off (and it would probably look like it's unplugged due to the KVM switch), will my G4 boot in single screen mode, or will I just see half my desktop? Will I have to change the configuration every time I switch from one to two monitors? Thanks! In my experience, Macs have generally been pretty graceful about this. What you need to do, though, is in the Display Control Panel in OS9 or Displays in System Preferences in OSX set the LCD monitor as 1 and move the screens around in the dialog box to match the positions of your monitors on your desk. As long as you have your primary monitor set as 1 it will work fine even with the vga screen turned off. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual Monitor - spanning behavior
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Paul Kemner wrote: My question: If the VGA monitor is switched off (and it would probably look like it's unplugged due to the KVM switch), will my G4 boot in single screen mode, or will I just see half my desktop? Will I have to change the configuration every time I switch from one to two monitors? Nope. OS X is good about seeing multiple monitors and handling the changes, even on the fly. No need to do anything. I don't want to get in a shooting match, but if your monitors are different sizes and resolutions, sometimes your resolution and colors will get reset in OSX too. This comes from experience on a G4 running Tiger with one LCD plugged into ADC and one plugged into DVI on the same video card. Sometimes if I didn't switch one of the flat panels on before I booted, the other one would get reset to some default values. The Apple display plugged into ADC was 1024x768 and the DVI one was first 1280x1024 and then replaced with a 1900x1600. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VHS to DVD
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote: This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from Computer Geeks a year or so ago. Checking their site I see none available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend? Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder') I'm familiar with 3. Unfortunately, they are all at work and I am at home. I'll check the exact model numbers tomorrow. One is a Magnavox that came from Wal-Mart to play throwaway VHS tapes and DVD's. It also makes great throwaway DVD's, it has a habit of quitting right when the dub is about 3/4 done. The other 2 are a Panasonic and a high end Sony. Both work really well. The Sony is also really expensive as Sonys tend to be, and the Panasonic gives as good a quality dubs. Like I said, I'll look up some model numbers tomorrow and get back to you. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VHS to DVD
hosemonkey wrote: I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated. Best way I found is with a VHS/DVD combo deck. Just put it in the corner and let it rip! No computer necessary and the quality is pretty goll darn good. My 2 cents. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Addedum to 68k-Macs
DKline wrote: The web address is http://groups.google.com/group/68k-macs/ Is this somehow different than the existing Vintage Macs list? Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Bruce writes, ~users/Library/Thunderbird which is where everything is stored. THANKS! :-D I got it ALL done now: paid my Emailchemy shareware, cleaned up the 'demo mess' with the real one and moved Thunderbird and My Collection over to the iBook! Woo-hoo! :-) ~Yersinia. Shoot, got here a bit late. Strange, we live in Alaska time here in Alaska and I just got off work! The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile. Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh. There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading out to the barbecue!) Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Stephen writes, Shoot, got here a bit late. Strange, we live in Alaska time here in Alaska and I just got off work! The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile. Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh. There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading out to the barbecue!) Ehhh, I won't start any flame wars with you. As it happens -- even though I hadn't seen your email yet -- what you suggested is exactly what I did. I didn't have Tbird ON the iBook yet, so, after cleaning up my new Tbird mail database on the G4 with the full version of Emailchemy, I copied Tbird's installation disk image, as well as the ~users/Library/Thunderbird like Bruce suggested onto the flash drive, and moved the whole thing into the iBook -- where I installed Tbird, booted it, shut it down and copied in that folder to ~users/Library in the iBook. Then I rebooted Tbird, checked my folders and... BEEYOUTEEFUL! Er, at least if I have to reference any emails while on the iBook -- all of it made the transition. I haven't had opportunity to test it online for send/receive email yet. I will probably do that tomorrow. But I don't expect problems, I mean, Tbird is picking up and sending my emails on the G4, as you can see! I'm still in the 'adjustment' phase with TBird -- I don't regret the decision but after 13 solid years of using Claris Emailer, change is definitely noticeable. I'm sure it'll only take me a week or two for my brain, which you all know is shielded by a solid neutronium skull, to fully kick into it. And in some respects, I'm actually enjoying the newness! I liken my new Tbird experience to when I first got OS X, only on a smaller scale since it's just an emailer, not a new operating system -- I'm finding things some things I like better, finding other things a pain in the neck, but the overall result is that I like it. Oh, a barbecue? Please pass me the spare ribs! :-) ~Yersinia. Glad you like it. One thing you do have to be careful about is letting your Inbox get too big. I'm an email pack rat too, I still have some here from back in the 80's. And a pile that were converted from Rmail in Emacs on Solaris. Anyways, I just helped a user at work because her Tbird crashed - her Inbox just reached 4GB(!!!) so you probably have a ways to go! My Inbox right now is at 1419 messages... Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
diane wrote: I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them. Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be? Thanks, Diane There really is no quick and easy way that I know of. It kind of depends on what kind of data was on the hard drives as to what level of erase you need. The best way is to use an application that writes either all zeros or random data over the drive. Disk Utility in OS X will do this, but if you are talking SCSI you're probably not working with OS X. A big magnet simply doesn't work. Years ago I had a friend that put an old hard drive on a bulk tape eraser at the radio station. This thing would erase a whole tape reel with one zap. Didn't do a thing to the hard drive. Everything was still readable. Hope this helps, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
Kyle Hansen wrote: And the only reason I know this is it is one of the tools we use at the government lab to destroy drives...the other is the metal shredder which is WAY more fun. Kyle Hansen Ya, but they don't let civillains have these, unless you roll your own from surplus! Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
MnDel wrote: Dan wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . What vers of Firefox? What add-ons? Have you tried clearing its cache? version 3.0.8 Adblock Plus 1.0.1 I hadn't been clearing cache, so I found a place under prefs/privacy to get cache cleared after every shut down. Secondly, it typically takes 30 to 90 seconds for the 'pinwheel to stop' whenever I simply add an empty folder to bookmarks - that makes me think it is not related to cache or add-ons. Does this tidbit change the prognosis? Next time Firefox freezes will examine Console to see if I can translate something, but it's not a language I understand. thanks, Del How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? I just switched over from Safari 3.2.1 to Firefox 3.0.7 because Safari would continually crash. I'm pretty lazy about my thousands of bookmarks, and I notice Firefox is far slower to open them. One other thing that slows it way down is all the little bookmark icons, whatever they are called. Loading those slows it down too, maybe there is a corrupted one? On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
Sheesh! $800 for dual 2GHz G5? Maybe I should part this one out and get an Intel Mac ;-) Thanks for the detailed instructions, I'll give it a look-see when the machine is down for a few hours. Stephen Cyrus Griffin wrote: I do; however it does require some special tools. First, you have to take the cover off, that says G5. There's a little grey post that you have to take out on the top side, next to the video card. After thats out (it does take some doing...) pull the grey plastic piece down that's on the front of the processors. This releases 3 or 4 latches on the top cover, which slides over to the left, and up. You can then take the plastic part from the front off. Next, you need a very, very long allen; I believe it's either a 2 or a 5/64. I have a security set, and an extender that I got at a hardware store. There are two in the front, (one on each) four in the middle (these are hard to get to) and two on the back, one on each. You don't have to take these all the way out, in fact I wouldn't recommend trying. They are wedge shaped and hold the processors in with pressure on the sides, as opposed to conventional methods of applying downwards pressure. Anyways, then you just wiggle them out, and there are some phillips screws to take the actual processors off the heat sync. Also there is probably a second, smaller heat sync attached to the back side, with some metal or plastic clips. It should be obvious how to take it off, as it's attached to the processor itself. I would strongly suggest being grounded while you do this; new processors are VERY, VERY hard to find for dual 2GHz G5's, and may cost you upwards of $800. Hope that helps. -Cyrus On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I have a dual 2.0 GHz G5. On occasion, all the fans start running full speed. I know that this is a common problem with this particular model, but I've searched all the forums for a fix to no avail. My guess is that the CPU heat sinks are not seated right, maybe the goo is dried out, the thermal grease thread brought the possibility back to mind. At work, I had a server that was doing the same dance, and reseating the heatsinks on the CPU's fixed it. Does anyone know how the get into the processors on a dual 2.0 GHz G5? For some reason, Apple has apparently removed all the Tech Docs for this particular model from their website. Thanks, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
Thanks for the tips. Very strange behavior here, though, when I google for MenuMeters, Safari either hangs or crashes! A rogue application or process may well be to blame, I've done as one of the other forums said and checked the CPU temps after a fan excursion and the CPU's were pretty warm. I'll keep an eye on it in Activity Monitor, though some say Activity Monitor can cause some background runaways too. Stephen Kris Tilford wrote: I've got a dual 2.3 that occasionally goes full fan on. I use MenuMeters and such a full fan on condition is almost always accompanied by full 100% CPU usage on both CPUs. I click on the CPU monitor in the menu bar and select Open Activity Monitor which I sort by the CPU usage column descending. The offending process is always at the top in some sort of runaway mode. I highlight the process and quit it, and if that doesn't work, force quit it, and the fans always stop within just a few seconds. I haven't had this happen much recently, but I've drastically scaled back on using Firefox because it was most often the offending process. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
fans on G5 - off to the races!
I have a dual 2.0 GHz G5. On occasion, all the fans start running full speed. I know that this is a common problem with this particular model, but I've searched all the forums for a fix to no avail. My guess is that the CPU heat sinks are not seated right, maybe the goo is dried out, the thermal grease thread brought the possibility back to mind. At work, I had a server that was doing the same dance, and reseating the heatsinks on the CPU's fixed it. Does anyone know how the get into the processors on a dual 2.0 GHz G5? For some reason, Apple has apparently removed all the Tech Docs for this particular model from their website. Thanks, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thermal grease?
insightinmind wrote: On Mar 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 6:46 PM, PeterH wrote: Silicone thermal grease needs no special preparation. Arctic Silver must be applied according to instructions, as this stuff is conductive, and it can short-out a processor, if improperly applied. Is this true? I'd think there's a chance the the word conductive is being misinterpreted? It seems to me that thermal paste is likely to be thermodynamically conductive and not likely to be electrically conductive? Does it have silver in it? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Ya, I can tell you from experience that it IS electrically conductive. Got a blob where I shouldn't have on a motherboard once upon a time, luckily I got it cleaned off after it wouldn't run. But it was a windoze PC so it really doesn't matter, eh? Arctic Silver has metal particles in the gel - I'm not sure if it is aluminum or real silver. Trade secret, I guess! Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: virtual desktop manager
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I've been really addicted to virtual desktops since working on unix systems back in the 80's and 90's. I still use Classic on occasion, so a Leopard upgrade is not in the cards. If there is another desktop manager that works with current versions of Tiger, I'm open to suggestions. Virtue http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/, which is based on Desktop MAnagerhttp://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12682 which I used happily for years, until 10.5 and Spaces -- Well, I tried to find virtue in Virtue, but unfortunately was unsuccessful. It's lean and mean, which is good, but it's still a half-baked beta. I'd have to edit code to get what I needed. I'm kinda lazt these days, that's why I'm on a Mac instead of linux. I just found a new favorite: you control: desktops http://www.yousoftware.com/desktops/desktops.php It's based on Spaces and runs in Tiger. I was kinda wondering why no one did this before, Spaces was originally supposed to come out in Tiger and a lot (but not all) of the system hooks are in there. You Desktops is not free, it's $30, but well worth it if you want to run Spaces in Tiger. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
virtual desktop manager
Greetings all - since we have managed to stray a bit from G3-G5 hardware issues, I thought I would ask here. I've been running CodeTek VirtualDesktop Pro for multiple desktops and after the last Apple security update, it quit working. Nobody seems to be home at CodeTek, at least they are not answering my emails. Here's the details, Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5, MacOS 10.4.11, CodeTek VirtualDesktop Pro 3.1. I uninstalled and tried to upgrade to v. 3.2 with no change, and tried to install the v. 4 beta but the install codes don't work. When I login, VirtualDesktop launches, I see the manager window pop up, but then after about 10-15 seconds it just dies. If I launch it manually, it has the seem behavior. This is as a standard user, but same behavior if I'm logged in as admin. I've been really addicted to virtual desktops since working on unix systems back in the 80's and 90's. I still use Classic on occasion, so a Leopard upgrade is not in the cards. If there is another desktop manager that works with current versions of Tiger, I'm open to suggestions. Thanks, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Postscript Printers
PeterH wrote: On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: The RAM is easy to find as it is standard PC RAM from back in the 386 and 486 days, when every PC supported parity, but the parity could be turned off in many PCs. No. The HP parity RAM was different in the LJ4/4M. Normal PC parity RAM (9 chip RAM) could be used, but it required modification by soldering. The PS card in my 4M is: C2080-60001 Rev. B The four ROM chips are: 1818-5437 1818-5438 1818-5439 1818-5440 Copyright: © 1992 HP-Boise © 1984-1992 Adobe © 1981 Linotype AG No RAM on the PS card itself. Of course, the printer has RAM. 2 MB, I think. Added RAM cards: Three standard 4 MB with parity cards NEC MC-421000A36BH-80. Eight 424400 chips (data) and four 421000 chips (parity). All 80 ns. I believe the RAM cards were pulls from surplus MYLEX DAC960PL RAID cards. My memory is a bit foggy, but I believe the old HP 4M (M = Macintosh compatible) has a real Adobe Postscript ROM on the added LocalTalk card. We used ours in a network with Macs running System 7, PC's running NT and WFW 3.1, and Sun Solaris. The Suns used Postscript too, and they absolutely loved the Laserwriters and worked really well with the 4M. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Brother HL-2140 and Postscript
PeterH wrote: On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Bruce wrote: The Brother HL-2140 User's Manual, which is on the Brother web site, does not seem to make any mention of Postscript: Brother offers BR-Script in its network laser printers and multi- function lasers. The entry level lasers have USB drivers for MacOS and the usual suspect OSes from Renton, WA. This is all true. But the BR-Script unfortunately does not provide very good Postscript emulation. I have an HL-5250DN, and though it's a great printer, it has a Xerox Phaser 6130 sitting next to it for when I have to print Postscript. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Brother HL-2140 and Postscript
PeterH wrote: On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: The Brother HL-2140 User's Manual, which is on the Brother web site, does not seem to make any mention of Postscript: This is all true. But the BR-Script unfortunately does not provide very good Postscript emulation. I have an HL-5250DN, and though it's a great printer, it has a Xerox Phaser 6130 sitting next to it for when I have to print Postscript. I didn't say it was good PostScript emulation. In fact, it is relatively poor PostScript emulation. If you want good PostScript emulation, you do not go to a Xerox or to a H-P, either, you go to an Apple LaserWriter or to a Linotronic. In the 600 dpi class, a LaserWriter Pro 630 or a LaserWriter 16/600 delivers flawless PostScript emulation. If I have to have truly flawless PostScript emulation, I go to a Pro 630 or 16/600 at 600 dpi, or to a Linotronic 300 at 2540 dpi. Yes, I DO have a Linotronic here in my home shop. Two, in fact: a Linotronic 200P (the PostScript version of the Lino 200) and a Linotronic 300. (About 50 years ago, I used to set type on a Linotype machine. The Linotronic is today's incarnation of the venerable Linotype machine). Ya, I just wanted to make sure that they got the message that the Brother printers don't do Postscript very well. Actually, the HP's do an emulation too, but it ain't half bad. Used to drive one of my old bosses crazy though - he was a diehard LaTeX user! Man, which I had a Linotronic or two! I used to do some DTP for work, but always had to settle for printing proofs on a QMS PS410 or Laserwriter 12/640 and then sending it out...brother can you spare a...ummm...Linotronic? Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---