Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 11/15/12 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:29 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:



Apple itself also uses a lot of OSS in the depth of Mac OS X. Just the
GUI, “Aqua”, and the applications are closed source by Apple.
Even the browser uses OSS: WebKit.


Indeed so, including much of the OS X kernel, which predates the founding
of Apple Inc (formerly Apple Computer Inc) by several years.

Just invoke, say, on a Hackintosh, OS X using the -v (verbose) boot
option, and you will immediately see the BSD (Berkeley Standard
Distribution) copyright, Copyright by The Regents of The University of
California, and an exhaustive list of copyright years, many of which
pre-date the founding of Apple itself.


Well according to the canonical listing of the Unix Family Tree, 
(http://www.levenez.com/unix/) BSD1 dates to 1978; so Apple Predates BSD, 
although ATT Unix predates Apple by several years.

Also Apple is one of the few companies to have produced version on both sides 
of the Great Schism; between System V and BSD. OS X is based on the BSD line 
(why the Califoria Board Of Regents copyrights are there) but A/UX, Apples 
FIRST Unix, was a System V-based system.

The opnly other one I'm familiar with is HP's HPUX, which was a frankenunix cobbled 
together from the corpses of HP's original workstation versions (based on System V)  
and Apollo's (based on BSD) when HP swallowed them up. shudder Burn it. Burn 
it with fire! Commands were an unpredicatble mix of BSD and SysV syntax.



And, believe it or not, there was a time (mid-90's) when Apple was 
actually developing their own flavor of linux, called MKLinux.


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Re: Where can I find a good explanation on using Migration Assistant?

2012-08-26 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
This is the way I like to do it, except that during the OS install, I 
name the first account I create admin, and leave it on the computer 
just in case - once in a very great while, you need to login to an 
administrator account that's different from your user account for 
maintenance, troubleshooting, or recovery.


Stephen

On 8/25/12 4:55 AM, faithie999 wrote:

to emphasize and build on Bruce's advice above, here's how i would do it:

a)  if you can install your G4 HD as a second HD in your G5:

install 10.5.x on the G5 new HD.  during the setup dialog after install,
choose a user name other than the one that you used on the G4.  i use Test.

run migration assistant, and since you're transferring from another
disk rather than another mac you don't need to go thru the pairing
process (my term) described in apple's KB article.

in the migration assistant dialog, choose to transfer everything that is
on your G4 HD.

after the migration is complete, log out of the Test user, and log in as
your normal user.

go to system prefs--users and groups and delete the user Test.



b)  if you can't or don't want to temporarily install your G4 HD as a
second drive in your G5, then you will still set up a new user on your
G5 after the 10.5.x install, but follow the steps in migration assistant
to transfer from another mac instead of from another disk.

good luck

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Re: can't delete user account

2012-08-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 8/1/12 7:37 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:

stats: G4 iMac (goose neck one); 10.4.xx; I have an Administrator account

I gave my old iMac to a teenage boy. I kept myself as Administrator and made 
his account Administrator, too. He just gave the computer to his sister. I need 
to delete his account, but he doesn't remember his password.

I have logged into the computer and tried to delete his account. However, the - 
sign is grayed out and it won't let me select it.

Yesterday, I inserted the install CD that came with the iMac and tried to reset 
his password. I chose to leave the password box blank  actually no password 
--- thinking that would be easier. BUT when I logged in again, the - sign was 
still grayed out. AND apparently the new password didn't take because it kept 
hinting at the old password.

Any suggestions on how to delete his account? His sister needs the room on the 
hard drive because he has added lots of stuff in his User account - which I 
can't delete because I don't have his password!

Jane



Did you select the account name and click on the + sign at the 
bottom to allow admin edit access? Simple thing, I sometimes forget 
myself and drive meself bonkers trying to figure it out!


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Re: Eudora replacement

2012-07-22 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:

We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

-- Sent from my HP Pre3


What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, 
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.


I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit 
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.


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Re: Eudora replacement

2012-07-22 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote.

Stephen

On 7/22/12 5:13 AM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:

We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are
still in beta.

Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need
a true Eudora replacement.



-- Sent from my HP Pre3


On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote:

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
  We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
  still looking for a true Eudora replacement:
 
  Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora
 
  -- Sent from my HP Pre3

What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client,
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

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Re: Low Power G5

2012-04-22 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 4/21/12 7:27 PM, Old G4 wrote:

Hello All:

I need your opinions on the following:

My G4 MDD is nearing the end of its miserable life (bad power supply,
power manager system, starting problems, etc.).

I want a G5 PowerMac for internet, video encoding, a little Halo and
Star Trek, etc., but I _need_ the least power draw with the most
reliability I can get as my machine is usually on 22.5 hours a day.



Grizzledgiant



Grizzled:

I hate to break the news to you, but in general, G5 PowerMacs are 
gas-guzzlers and run pretty hot. I had a 2.0 dual for a while, and it 
definitely heated the room, even on standby. And I'm in coastal Alaska 
where it barely breaks 65F in the summer!


That said, you are right, definitely avoid the water cooled models, they 
can be problematic, especially if it will be running unattended for long 
periods of time. And a lower end video card will also help with the 
power draw, I had a pretty high end ATI (X300?) in mine.


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Re: advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-10 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
I had a late model dual 2.0 PCIx G5 for a while, it was great for 
graphics with an upgraded video card and had loads of processor power. 
It was the fastest one without water cooling, so I would look for one of 
those.


Stephen

On 4/9/12 4:16 PM, Jackie wrote:

I'm looking to upgrade to a dual G5 in the near future. I do a little
graphic design (Quark 6.0 and Photoshop 4.0), need access to classic.
I don't do any gaming.  I've seen comments made about staying away
from liquid cooled models (2.5 DP  PCIx model 9457 and 2.7 DP PCI-x
model 9749). Are there others? Can anyone make a recommendation?

Thanks,
Jackie
Easton, PA



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Re: Flashback Malware Hits 600,000 Macs???

2012-04-06 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 4/6/12 6:35 AM, Dan wrote:

At 9:48 AM -0400 4/6/2012, Kristina Rost wrote:

http://www.techlicious.com/blog/flashback-malware-hits-60-macs/http://www.techlicious.com/blog/flashback-malware-hits-60-macs/


.8 snip! 8...


3. Because Java is a dying language, Apple is no longer including it
with OS X by default. So most newer Mac owners don't even have it
installed ... unless they're using one of the many apps that require it. :\


You obviously don't have any kids that play Minecraft!

But the part about OLD is correct. I couldn't get Minecraft to run on my 
wife's old white MacBook running Tiger because the version of Java was 
too old.


Stephen

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Re: Migration Assistant question

2012-03-11 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Which version of OS on the G4 and which on the iMac?

Stephen

On 3/11/12 4:25 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote:

Just finished moving the content of a G4 emac to an Intel iMac. Files,
apps and documents all moved as planned but none of the data. No
bookmarks in any of the browsers or data used by various applications.

These can be rebuilt but it will be a pain.

Suggestions?

TIA

-Roger


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Re: Migration Assistant question

2012-03-11 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
I had a MacBook Pro once do something very strange when I did a 
migration once between those two exact versions. Things ended up in 
strange places in the home directory. I had to manually move some items 
into the correct places. Do a search and see if that happened. You might 
just find it where you least expect it.


Stephen

On 3/11/12 6:04 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote:

G4 = 10.4.11
G5 = 10.6

-RF

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net
mailto:sbod...@gci.net wrote:

Which version of OS on the G4 and which on the iMac?

Stephen


On 3/11/12 4:25 PM, Roger Faulkner wrote:

Just finished moving the content of a G4 emac to an Intel iMac.
Files,
apps and documents all moved as planned but none of the data. No
bookmarks in any of the browsers or data used by various
applications.

These can be rebuilt but it will be a pain.

Suggestions?

TIA

-Roger


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Re: going to an Intel iMac

2012-01-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 1/8/12 4:52 PM, Tina K. wrote:

On 2012/01/07 09:54, Stephen E. Bodnar so eloquently wrote:

Very well said. Having done this very same migration numerous times,
there is one
gotcha - let Migration Assistant create the new user on the new
(target) machine
and not update an existing account. Otherwise, weird things happen
with permissions.


Good to know, thank you Stephen. This explains my less than satisfactory
experience with Migration Assistant.


Tina

The way I usually move a user to a new machine, is to install the OS on 
the new machine, make an administrator type user called admin, install 
all the big apps under the admin account, then use Migration Assistant 
to create and move the old user from the old machine.


I don't copy the Applications over from the old one, I install them new 
because 1) the new OS generally installs them differently and Migration 
Assistant can't always handle this 2) there are generally new versions 
of the apps anyways.


My last update on Intel side was from 10.6 to 10.7. I updated the Adobe 
Suite from CS3 to CS5.5 along the way, and my prefs date all the way 
back to a G5 PowerMac running 10.4. It worked just fine, and Adobe stuff 
is one of the pickiest.


Stephen

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Re: going to an Intel iMac

2012-01-07 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 1/7/12 7:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:


Why not just use a file manager utility to move your wanted files?
The simple old fashioned way to batch process ?


Because tools like Migration Assistant take care of all the niggling little 
issues of moving account information over and find EVERYTHING, doing 
repetitive, mindless tasks like a gorram computer SHOULD, freeing up the human 
mind for tasks better suited to our unique processing power :-)



Very well said. Having done this very same migration numerous times, 
there is one gotcha - let Migration Assistant create the new user on the 
new (target) machine and not update an existing account. Otherwise, 
weird things happen with permissions.


Stephen

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Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 11/16/11 2:54 AM, dc wrote:

On Nov 15, 9:01 pm, Stephen E. Bodnarsbod...@gci.net  wrote:

I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty
active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for
Christmas.  If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot
buttered rums and counting birds, that's OK too.


I forgot to mention, this is the most random Mac advice I've read i a
long time!



Oopsie, posted to the wrong list! Any bird brains around here doing the 
Christmas bird count this year? We compile the results on a Mac ;-)


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Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-15 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty 
active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for 
Christmas.  If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot 
buttered rums and counting birds, that's OK too.


Stephen

On 11/15/11 9:51 AM, Dan wrote:

At 7:21 AM -0800 11/15/2011, Bruce Godfrey wrote:

do you have any data on how much difference a fast SCSI drive makes in
a MDD


Multiple factors. The drive has to be able to throw data at x speed.
(read and write cycles are usually quite different)! The drive's
hardware cache has has be large enough to be able to buffer sufficient
data to keep both the mechanism and i/o bus busy. And the i/o bus, be it
IDE or SCSI or ..., has to be able to throw the data quickly.

In my experience, the drive's capabilities are usually the bottleneck.

And be careful of the version and bit widths of the i/o bus. Firewire,
btw, is actually a form of SCSI 3.

Wikipedia has some very nice articles that include tables comparing bus
speeds...

As far as getting the best performance overall... Optimize speed,
capacity, and especially cost. Your best bet is a SATA controller and
7200rpm or faster SATA drives. That way the drives are inexpensive *and*
usable in future machines!

fwiw,
- Dan.


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Re: Key command close all windows

2011-11-10 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
The trick I use requires a single mouse click - hold down the option key 
and close the front window


Stephen

On 11/10/11 7:04 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote:

I there a key command that will close all windows on 10.5 on a G5 PPC? Short of 
a restart?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem








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Re: G4 MDD + FCE2

2011-11-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 11/3/11 1:30 AM, Avid_Fan wrote:

Hello!

I'm running Final Cut Express 2 on my G4 MDD. When capturing footage
the window freezes after 5 minutes every time and after a quick search
it would appear it's because I need to use an older version of
Quicktime.

I didn't get install discs with my machine but have found original G4
MDD installation discs for £12, result!

This will mean a re-install to 10.3.2.

If i do this Is there anything I should be aware of regards
compatibility of other programmes etc? Can the automatic update be
disabled so i don't update QT by mistake.?

For example I use iTunes and an iphone3G on the same machine, any
issues there?

Cheers,
Evan


Does it say what version of QT? Quicktime 7 Pro is the Swiss Army 
Knife of the older QT versions and works well with FCE. The free 
version is out on the Interwebitubes and it can be updated to Pro for 
just a few sheckles.


FCE2 is a bit long in the tooth, but I wouldn't reinstall the OS just to 
get Quicktime.


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Re: Mapping Out Bad Sectors

2011-10-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 10/4/11 6:08 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:



If you zero out a hard drive with Disk Utility to map out the bad
blocks, are they notated in a permanent fashion or will a simple
reformat lose the bad block map.


In a modern drive, the defects map is created when the drive is
manufactured and it is stored in a ROM within the drive.

Therefore, all drives report that every sector is good.

I am unaware of a method for recreating the contents of that ROM.





Low-level format. This will re-write the bad block map on a hard drive. 
It is not what Disk Utility does when it zeroes the data, it only 
rewrites those reported to the OS as good. No need to zero the bad 
blocks, if data is going there, it's lost!


When a drive has enough bad blocks to require a low-level format, it's 
usually on the way out anyways. If you monitor SMART on a modern drive, 
you can see the errors.


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Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie

2011-06-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system quite a 
bit. At least it did on my old G4!


As to video capture, if you're not going totally Pro, I've had really 
good luck with the Grass Valley firewire units. I currently have an 
ADVC-300 and have also used an ADVC-110. If you need HDMI in, though, 
these won't work. I just upgraded to an Aja LHi in my Intel Mac Pro so 
my ADVC-300 will soon be on the market ;-)


Stephen

On 6/14/11 9:13 AM, S T wrote:

Most of my main concern tends to be regarding capture cards... how to
get the video INTO the program I'm using, whichever that one will be.  I
may be spoield coming from an all-Amiga background.  And tehn again, I
may eb facing the same hurdles I did with the Amiga:
multi-thousand-dollar pieces of machinery I never could afford without
cheating on my taxes.  :D   I priced a complete build-it-myself system
once using just entry-level equipment and it was close to $10K.  NOT good.
As for internals, I'm strongly considering a 2-SATA PCI card to put in,
then adding a couple of 1+ TB Drives.  the 80 and 160 I hve now are
fine, but for future expansion...
Then again, I may just stick with app development (the SDK works on the
G4, surprisingly!) with an intel-based Mac Mini or a MB Pro, if I can
find an affordable one.  That's always been my major beef with Apple.
Great hardware, but too expensive.  Since my skills are software anyway,
this sounds like the best way to go.



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Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie

2011-06-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 6/14/11 5:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:


The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system quite a
bit. At least it did on my old G4!


I'd like to see some benchmarks for before  after so that we'd have
some real data. There are plenty of anecdotal reports, but real data is
hard to find. In order to make the test fair, you'd need to clone your
HDs so that they're both as identical as possible. It's not enough to
simply clone the old ATA HD onto the new SATA HD, you'd then need to
re-clone the new SATA HD back onto the old ATA HD. A lot to ask for a
simple benchmark test, might take hours, so it's clear why it's done so
rarely.



It also makes quite a bit of difference how they are setup and how they 
are used. If they are RAID 0, of course they will be faster, at risk of 
data loss. Since he was talking about video, that is a very intensive 
disc application so the test would have to be with massive read/writes 
as you would do in video editing.


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Re: Hello! and question from a relative newbie

2011-06-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
There are many different flavors of RAID. RAID 0, which I was referring 
too, is pretty standard in video setups. You have two identical drives 
side by side, you fill the write buffer on one drive until it squeals, 
then, in the time that normally the computer would stop writing because 
the first disc can't accept any more data, the other second drive can 
start writing. So it speeds up disc writes considerably by alternating 
writes between the two drives. The downside is that it is pretty hard on 
the hard drives mechanically, so they tend to fail sooner. And because 
of the random data layout on the drives, if you lose one drive, you lose 
everything.


Other types of RAID provide varying degrees of data integrity 
irrespective of hard drive health They are used mostly in server type 
machines because they are a pain to deal with on the desktop, good 
backups are nearly as good unless you can't afford any downtime.


Written from the trenches...

Stephen

On 6/14/11 6:03 PM, S T wrote:

I honestly never understood the purpose behind a RAID setup.  Maybe I
dn't understand it, but it seems to me if you have 4 1 TB drives set up
in a RAID you just have 1TB duplicated 4 times.  Makes losing one or two
drives meaningless in this case, and that's the point.  But you're
talking about 1 TB, not 4.

Then again, 1TB is a LOT of space.  but the principle's the same.
Unless I'm missing the boat completely.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net
mailto:sbod...@gci.net wrote:

On 6/14/11 5:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:

The 2-SATA PCI card is worth it, it will speed up the system
quite a
bit. At least it did on my old G4!


[snip]

It also makes quite a bit of difference how they are setup and how they
are used. If they are RAID 0, of course they will be faster, at risk of
data loss. Since he was talking about video, that is a very intensive
disc application so the test would have to be with massive read/writes
as you would do in video editing.


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Re: Bounced mail?

2011-06-11 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
Yep, getting lots of them. All with this username - 
trinettejohn...@fuse.net


Stephen

On 6/11/11 11:43 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a
long time ago?

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Re: Where's the trash?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 1/3/11 9:04 PM, Dan wrote:

At 12:07 AM -0500 1/4/2011, Yersinia wrote:

On 1/3/11 10:26 PM, Dan wrote:

At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:

I want to know where the Folder is that holds the trash? is there
such thing?


And what are you plotting to do to them?

In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash
and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes
Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible
to Finder.


If they're invisible, how do you know they're there?


You spray them with anti-invisible spray!

dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al
drwx-- 6 dan dan 204 Jan 3 22:18 .Trash

dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al /
d-wx-wx-wt 2 root admin 68 Aug 21 2008 .Trashes

You can view their contents with ls commands in Terminal. Or from
Finder, you can directly open the folders.

- Dan.


If you really, really, really need to see all the hidden files and 
folders in the finder, you can pull the old programmer's trick. Enter 
these two lines as admin in the console, but be aware the last will 
restart the finder:


defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
killall Finder

More details are on these two webpages:

http://nixtechnica.blogspot.com/2007/05/mac-os-x-show-hidden-files-and-folders.html

http://www.mactricksandtips.com/2008/04/show-hidden-files.html

But I'm not really sure that you'll want to litter your desktop like that!

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Re: M-Audio

2010-12-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Sounds like I need version 9. Thanks for the heads up.

Stephen

On 12/1/10 3:06 PM, TVirkkala wrote:

It's ProTools 9 that has liberated the user from the box. You've gotta
pay for that liberation!


Strange, I installed the 8.0.0 ProTools LE that came with my MBox2,
and it won't run unless the Mbox2 is connected. It also trashed my
Snow Leopard, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The ReadMe said to
disable a whole host of useful services in order for it to run. I did
just download the 8.04 update, but haven't had a chance to install it.
Only a 1.7 GB (groan!) download. But I'll give it a whirl since it
sounds like they fixed lots of stuff.


Timo V
 PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 /
Power Macintosh 5500 / Macintosh SE/30 / Macintosh Classic


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Re: M-Audio

2010-11-30 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 11/30/10 2:58 PM, TVirkkala wrote:

The latest edition ...


A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new products
they should make. It was returned to them with every free form space
marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never going to happen…


of ProTools reversed course and allowed use of their software without
hardware attached. A first for all flavors of Pro Tools (I use M-Powered
8, which works with my M-Audio Fast Track Ulta).

It looks like things may be changing in the Pro Tools/M-Audio world.

Timo V
 PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 /
Power Macintosh 5500 / Macintosh SE/30 / Macintosh Classic



Strange, I installed the 8.0.0 ProTools LE that came with my MBox2, and 
it won't run unless the Mbox2 is connected. It also trashed my Snow 
Leopard, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The ReadMe said to 
disable a whole host of useful services in order for it to run. I did 
just download the 8.04 update, but haven't had a chance to install it. 
Only a 1.7 GB (groan!) download. But I'll give it a whirl since it 
sounds like they fixed lots of stuff.


I had a 2496 for a while in my G4 under Tiger and moved it to a G5 
running 10.4.11. It caused all manners of grief, crashes, lockups, and 
not waking up from Sleep. I finally sold it to a windoze sucked on 
fleabay. Don't ask me why I bought the Mbox2. I'm on an Intel Mac now.


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Re: proper mic for iMic on a G5

2010-09-12 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 9/12/10 10:20 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:

I am trying to use iMic on a G5 with a headset w/ mic. All the sets I
find so far, have a stereo mic plug. Has anyone seen a headset w/ a mono
plug. Or will a stereo to mono adapter work? They are trying to talk on
WOW via ventrilo.



The jacks are designed so that when you plug in a stereo plug, it is 
stereo, and when you plug in a mono plug, it goes mono. No adapter needed.


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Re: how long to install an update?

2010-08-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
In addition to what Netamicky said, if you have a chance to download it 
somewhere else over broadband and either burn it to CD/DVD or put it on 
a USB key and copy it over to her computer that way, it will go much 
smoother.


My sister used to be on dial-up, so I used to download all the updaters 
this way and mail her a CD.


Stephen

On 8/1/10 6:26 AM, Nestamicky wrote:

On 01/08/10 8:01 AM, Linda wrote:


I have my sister's iMac running 10.5.5: 2.4 GHz Intel core duo processor

she doesn't deserve a machine like this!

she has dial up and has not updated since she bought this computer a few
years ago.

Anyway I had her bring it to me since I have a cable connection. I ran
system updater but when I got the system 10 update combined for 10.5.8 I
can't seem to get it to install.

I set it up last night and this morning only about a tenth of the
install bar had completed. the file is 768MB large. How long should
this take? She was hoping to take it home this afternoon.

Linda in Ohio

It has taken more than it should. I will go directly to Apple's
downloads and download the update as you would from, say, Version
Tracker. Then run the .dmg update file and update the machine that way.
I think it's called Combo update on Apple's website, but once you're
there, read closely, you'd get it. Besides, using the direct updater has
been known to result in errors.

It's nice of you to update her machine.



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Re: Multiple address books possible?

2010-05-19 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 5/19/10 5:07 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On May 19, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Dan wrote:


At 9:44 AM -0700 5/19/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Is there any way to have more than one Address book per user?

One of our people has synched her address book and iCal with her boss to manage 
it, but she needs one for her own addresses. I've looked around and there's 
lots of stuff about sharing address books with multiple people, but nothing 
about one person having multiple address books.


Bet those apps will blindly follow symlinks.  Set up two trees - one of her 
files and one of her boss'ss Use a script to quit the apps, switch symlinks, 
launch apps...


And in a week she'll come crying to me that somehow one address book got 
synched over the other or they're both melded now. This is for the Dean of the 
College, he has a HUGE address book.

Looks like she'll be using Thunderbird.



Thunderbird was what I was going to recommend. It will let you keep 
multiple independent users and address books. I'm using the Eudora beta 
8.0b9 in 10.6.3, which is built on Thunderbird 3.0.1, and it's pretty 
darned stable.


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Re: Bus speeds

2010-04-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 4/4/10 7:35 AM, John Carmonne wrote:




PATA drives are getting rare and ATA133 even rarer. The speed improvement would 
be very marginal, and I would recommend looking for a 64-bit wide SATA 
interface instead, which would mean you can use a modern SATA drive with a big 
cache and a fast rotational speed.



My MDD has four hard drive bays so can one SeriTek/1V4 PCI-X Serial ATA 
controller with four internal SATA connectors do the job? Does all the power 
come off one Molex connector?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



I had an 867 Quicksilver that had 4 drives with a SeriTek card. It also 
had a dual 1.6 GHz upgrade. It ran really hot, but it ran.


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Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot

2010-04-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 4/4/10 10:30 AM, Eric Volker wrote:

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.netwrote:



On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:






I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an
older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio
hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they
would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done a
clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP
behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers.

My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping
the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections.
Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer firewire
and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are hard to
find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really good reviews
and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, they come with Pro
Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage Band here I come ;-)

Stephen



Hi Stephen (and others on the list)

If you read the other thread Re: Kernal Panics, Was ..., you'll see the
trouble I just had ... seem to be back up ... til the next kp ...

I'm doing some VHS to DV conversion, and I read along the way that USB
wasn't as good as FW when it comes to real time transfer of data ... USB is
in bursts and FW is more continuous (as I understand it).

Not sure how this applies to audio ... if you're just transferring recorded
data it might be ok ... if you're digitizing audio, its not, as I see it.
But if you're going from today's devices to the Mac, you're already
digitized ...

May have nothing to do with your application ... I had wanted to merge my
Yamaha motif es8 keyboard output, with Sibelius playback, and possibly mix
in my horn recording at a later date. Trying to do this in real time ...
using Sibelius / Keyboard as my accompanist.

All controlled by my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz tied together by a Mackie
1402 VLZPro mixer ...

Wonder if there's a way we could fix those access / permissions and such?


I had an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 in my Mac for a long time. In my 800MHz

Quicksilver 2002 under older versions of Tiger it worked pretty well.
However, when I got a dual G5 I began having many issues. From what I can
tell, the old M-Audio driver really did not like dual CPUs. I eventually
moved it to a Hackintosh where, against all reason, it worked flawlessly
with a driver whipped up by an amateur hacker. M-Audio does have some new
Leopard drivers available that I haven't tried yet, but I wouldn't expect
much. For my G5, I eventually went with a PCI card that added a PCMCIA slot
to the G5, and plugged in an Echo Indigo IO. It was a bear to set up, but
once up was rock solid - and sounded great too. Note that I am not a
musician nor a sound engineer, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Eric



Aha! The dual processor is probably the issue. My old Quicksilver had a 
dual CPU upgrade. I just ordered a USB M-Box 2 as a replacement since my 
next Mac will probably be an Intel iMac, and I'll use it sometimes with 
my wife's MacBook. It will be interesting to see how it behaves with the 
dual G5.


Maybe I'll keep the 2496 and get a hackintosh! Do you have a link to the 
amateur driver? It's probably more professional than what the amateurs 
at M-Audio put out.


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Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot

2010-04-03 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 4/2/10 6:51 AM, billycar_G3-5 wrote:

This is the behavior I referred to above (I don't know what other
audio card to suggest):

Having recently downloaded a lot of upgrades (FCE 4, Quicktime,
iTunes, Security update, etc) ...

I just got 3 kps in a row ... 2 between restart using the Programmer's
button ... 1 on next Cold Boot ... finally went through, after I
turned on a FW device I had turned off during the last session where
the Mac seemed to be running well (not sure if this is this kps
cause).

I noticed each kp seemed to load more, by looking at the end of the
panic log (not the top) ... don't know how to pinpoint the problem.
Its possibly not the M-Audio drivers ... possibly a problem with M-
Audio setting of Permissions ... their Uninstall doesn't work under
Leopard, and I have to Uninstall manually ... tells me their support
is incomplete ...

Any suggestions?

I'm now using applejack in Single User Mode to autopilot a possible
solution ... Repairs Disk, Permissions, empties caches, etc.



I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an 
older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio 
hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they 
would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done 
a clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP 
behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers.


My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping 
the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections. 
Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer 
firewire and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are 
hard to find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really 
good reviews and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, 
they come with Pro Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage 
Band here I come ;-)


Stephen

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G5 and M-audio crash on boot

2010-04-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

A bit off topic, but maybe somebody here has some ideas!

My G5 2.0 Duely with Tiger (10.4.11) will often hang on boot - all the 
fans running full speed and the dreaded screen saying hold down power 
button for 5 seconds... which I do, and eventually the thing will boot. 
When I look through the logs, M-audio is always right there at the top 
of the list.


I have an M-Audio 2496 PCI card in it that I use a lot for digitizing 
music. I see complaints on the tubes about how lousy the M-Audio 
drivers are. Anybody else find a solution? I'm considering dumping the 
card and going to a firewire audio digitizing solution. The built-in 
audio isn't quite good enough.


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Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM

2010-03-07 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 3/6/10 10:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote:


On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote:



On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote:


The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0  the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a 
Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM

-
I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device
of any kind to a G5.

Ken
http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs


I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works 
seamlessly on those boxes.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA


The iMate is worth a try. I'd be interested to know if it works.

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Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM

2010-03-06 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

Hi All
I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to 
run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots 
at start up.

I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone 
know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company 
that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze.



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA


Greetings:

There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in 
classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot 
OS9, like the Quicksilvers.


Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the 
Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in 
classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle.


Stephen

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Re: Another Firefox ?

2010-02-17 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

On 2/17/10 7:36 AM, DAN A CURRIE wrote:

Hello All,

I am driving a G5 2.5 dualie, running 10.5 with .5TB hard drive space.

I just made the move from Netscape 9.0.0.6 to Firefox 3.6 and while it
was mostly a seamless transition, once I brought my bookmarks over an
issue arose.

Now when I click on BOOKMARKS on the menu bar the fans are off to the
races for the next 20-25 seconds and I can NOT access the bookmarks
until they return to normal.

I have completely re-installed Firefox and re-imported the bookmarks but
still the same!!

Please - HELP!?

Dan II


Greetings - I too had a similar problem with Firefox. It boiled down to
2 things - too many bookmarks, and many links were stale. So Firefox
is trying to index them all.

My solution was to just take the time, visit every bookmark, weed out
the stale ones, and move them all into folders. Now it is off to the races
when I go to the bookmarks, except this time I win!

Stephen

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Re: G5 problem?

2009-10-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Jeff:

Don't know what the kernel report says eggzactly, but my G5 used to do 
this on a regular basis. It turned out to be a rogue application. In my 
case, I had been using the CodeTek Virtual Desktop. An Apple software 
update hosed it, so I had to uninstall. The uninstall still left a few 
pieces behind, and I had to search them all out. When I removed them, 
the jet takeoffs ceased.

Hope this helps.

Stephen

Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 Powered up my G5 2.3ghz 5gb ram running leopard 10.5.8, then went to  
 take a shower... came back to sleeping monitor and fans running at  
 full speed. Checked the log and this is what I got. Anybody know how  
 to read it? Thanks in advance, Jeff
 
 Interval Since Last Panic Report:  131534 sec
 Panics Since Last Report:  1
 Anonymous UUID:10C6C46F-CE7C-477C-92F8-FC97D168236F
 
 Sun Oct  4 09:03:50 2009
 panic(cpu 0 caller 0x002C7B30): m_free: freeing an already freed  
 mbuf@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.15.4/bsd/kern/uipc_mbuf.c:3574
 Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
   0x0009CC88 0x0009D63C 0x00029DA0 0x002C7B30 0x0073B3B4  
 0x00753F00 0x007543B0 0x00747F00
   0x00747C80 0x0074847C 0x00740994 0x0012F0E0 0x0019F10C  
 0x00195CBC 0x001A70FC 0x002D427C
   0x002DA540 0x002DA8D4 0x003100AC 0x000B4448 0x
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
   com.asante.driver.AsanteGigaNIX_1000TA(2.4.1)@0x74f000- 
  0x756fff
  dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
  dependency:  
 com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x73
   com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x73-0x74efff
 Proceeding back via exception chain:
 Exception state (sv=0x61c1e500)
PC=0x946F65F8; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x5A62C000;  
 DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x9472BB78; R1=0xBFFFEF50; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00  
 - System call)
 
 BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mDNSResponder
 
 Mac OS version:
 9L31a
 
 Kernel version:
 Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009;  
 root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
 System model name: PowerMac7,3
 
 System uptime in nanoseconds: 1166699408593
 unloaded kexts:
 com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 6914636545
 loaded kexts:
 com.Ralink.driver.RT2870USBWirelessDriver 1.2.4
 com.asante.driver.AsanteGigaNIX_1000TA2.4.1
 com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5 - last loaded 4191180533
 com.apple.filesystems.autofs  2.0.2
 com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio  2.5.8f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio2.5.8f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio  2.5.8f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
 com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver   1.0.6
 com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial   1.3.2
 com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0
 com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock   1.5.2d0
 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan   1.0.10f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor1.9d0
 com.apple.driver.PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin   3.4.0d0
 com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio   2.5.8f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleLM7x1.9d0
 com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP  1.7.7
 com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage  1.5.2d0
 com.apple.ATIRadeon9700   5.4.8
 com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2
 com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver1.7.2f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0
 com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1
 com.apple.driver.Apple_iSight 1.1.4
 com.apple.driver.AppleMaxim6690   1.9d0
 com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1
 com.apple.driver.AppleAD741x  1.9d0
 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDMouse 1.2.4b3
 com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
 com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver1.1.0
 com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 1.0.9b4
 com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver1.0
 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.6
 com.apple.driver.LSI_FW_500   2.0.9
 com.apple.driver.Oxford_Semi  2.0.9
 com.apple.driver.initioFWBridge   2.0.9
 com.apple.driver.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolSansPhysicalUnit  2.0.9
 com.apple.driver.StorageLynx  2.0.9
 com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrip
 
 
  
 

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Re: installing Classic over Tiger

2009-09-10 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Richard Gerome wrote:
 
  I have been trying to install OS 9.2.2 in my G4 Titanium Powerbook 
 running Tiger 10.4.11 for almost a yr and I'm not having any luck either... 
 The 9.2.2 disc I have came with my OS 10.1 I used in my Clamshell 366, it 
 wont even take the disc??? So I downloaded that OS 9.2.2 thing from the Apple 
 website and that won't take either??? The only reason I'm even trying to do 
 this is for my scanner and Photoshop 6.0 it needs to run on OS 9, either 
 booted from the Startup disk or running under classic mode nothing is working 
 and I am lost??? I'm just going to do this on my clamshell when ever I need 
 to scan something and then I could down load it to my iPod and transfer it to 
 my G4 Powerbook instead... I've been following this thread and having no luck 
 with it at all... I really do not think it can be done unless I can get the 
 orginal 9.2.2 disc that was made for this computer if there ever was one???   
 CoolKat 
 

The only way I've successfully been able to do this was to first install 
System 9 to an external USB or firewire drive on a System 9 bootable 
Mac, and install all the updates and drivers through that machine. When 
I installed OS X I made sure to install the System 9 drivers to the boot 
disc. Then I just plugged in the external drive to the new OS X machine 
and copied the OS 9 System Folder into a folder at the root level of the 
boot drive named Classic. Then I went into the System Preferences and 
blessed that particular System Folder.

Some things never worked though, like sound. I really like the original 
Tetris but it flies so fast on this G5 I can't get very far, and the 
sound never makes it through. Guess I'll have to find an old Plus to 
show the kid what the real Tetris is.

Hope this helps,

Stephen

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hardware RAID on a G5

2009-08-31 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Yo-

Does anyone out there have any experience running hardware
RAID on a G5?

I'm hoping to replace my pile-o'-sata (4 drives to be exact)
with a 2 x 1TB RAID 1 array. EveryMac shows my machine as a
Power Macintosh G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2, M9455LL/A (PowerMac7,3).
It's running Tiger 10.4.11.

All the current RAID cards I see now are listed as for the
Intel Macs and I don't see any compatibility listed for
PPC macs. Mine currently has a SeriTek card installed for
the 2 extra drives but that only does software RAID as
does the onboard controller.

Thanks,
  Stephen

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Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups

2009-08-27 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
 
 Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from
 the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the  
 unsubscribe
 may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though!
 
 
 You do have a google login. You may not know the password, but you do  
 have a Google account, since that's how you were 'grandfathered in'.
 
 And for the paranoid, all google needs for your login is your email  
 addresswhich it already has, duh!
 

Wandering a bit off-topic, apologies.

Yes, I know, there is a Google account with my name on it. There's a 
difference here, but to me it does show a bit of paranoia, in this age 
of stolen identities. I don't have a Google account because I never 
set it up. Someone else set it up using my name and email.

It matters to me right now because our beloved University I work at 
has just moved all their email over to Google. What a mess, I'm the tech 
that deals with it at the desktop end. They set up an account for me 
with a non-intuitive username so everyone can get it wrong. And 
calendars? It was supposed to solve the calendar mess so everyone would 
work off the same page. Instead, everyone has two or three of their own 
calendars and then invites you to join theirs. So now there are hundreds 
I'm expected to wade through. Sheesh.

/rant

Apologies again for list off-topic

Stephen

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Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups

2009-08-26 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote:
 Go to http://groups.google.com/ and select Sign in. Enter your
 subscribed email address and password. You may also want to check
 Stay signed in.
 
 Google Groups will display a list of al groups that this email address
 is subscribed to. Click on Manage my memberships - this is where you
 can change your nickname, your subscribed email address, and your
 subscription type (how you receive messages from the group).

Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from 
the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the unsubscribe 
may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though!

Stephen

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Re: What OCR for Leopard?

2009-08-26 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Al Poulin wrote:
 
 On Aug 24, 7:04 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:

 Abbyy Fine Reader is $100 http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/ It at least
 runs on modern macs :-)
 Bruce:  This looks like an excellent candidate with a nice support
 tail.  Do you have any feedback on Abbyy Fine Reader on campus?
 
 Nope, I just found it via google. I haven't run into anyone wanting to  
 do OCR on a Mac (or a PC for that matter) in a long time.

We have the PC version of Abby Fine Reader at work, and it works really 
well, when you can finally figure out how to use it. Very difficult user 
interface.

I didn't see it mentioned, but if you just happen to have access to the 
full version of Adobe Acrobat, there is an OCR module built-in. I 
haven't used it so I can't testify to it's ability or agility.

Stephen



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Re: Any replacement keyboards

2009-06-26 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

tonycd wrote:
 Personally, I love the clicky feel. I'm typing this on a Matias
 Tactile Pro (an original, not a 2 -- these are REALLY unavailable
 now).
 
 Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually
 get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin
 Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some
 say it works -- can I get a witness?

Well, I've got a Matias now because the iMate wasn't officially 
supported above 10.3 and it had some serious sleep issues. I'd usually 
have to unplug my Quicksilver form the wall if it went to sleep with the 
iMate and Apple Extended II keyboard attached. Sure was nice for typing 
though!

The Matias website lists my Tactile Pro 2.0 for Mac (White) as SOLD OUT 
– DISCONTINUED

Stephen

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Re: Any replacement keyboards

2009-06-25 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Brian Christmas wrote:
 G'day
 
 I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she  
 doesn't like the Apple keyboards.
 
 Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can  
 be keymapped?
 
 Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist.
 
 Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets  
 used to it?
 
 Regards
 
 Santa

I'm surprised that Dan didn't pipe up, but there are numerous articles 
on the Low End Mac website about this very topic. Personally, I don't 
like the newer Apple keyboards much either, I make WAY too many mistakes 
no matter how hard I try! I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 
keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I 
guess they don't make it any more.

Stephen

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Re: Lightning Season

2009-06-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Clark Martin wrote:
 Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
 Clark Martin wrote:
 
 At the school I worked at we had a local fire marshall come through and 
 they had no problems with daisy chaining power strips but wouldn't allow 
 any power strips hanging off an extension cord (which carries the same 
 protection.  This despite the fact that adequate wall outlets weren't 
 provided in the new buildings, something that would have been required 
 by code in any house but since they were public buildings they were exempt.

 Interesting...at the University site where I work, that's one of the 
 first things the fire marshals here look for - daisy chained surge 
 protectors. And they write us up when they find them. Also, extension 
 cords as permanent wiring. We sure keep the local electrical contractor 
 busy!

 Of course, when the electrician gets here to put in a new outlet (I 
 could do it but I'm not certified, another issue!) he just chuckles and 
 says, You should look at the fire marshal's office
 
 Each fire marshall has their own interpretation of the code and what is 
 important in it.  We also go some strange observations, ones that 
 couldn't have been although things may have got lost in translation.
 
 For me the tricky part was to locate power strips with long cords, 
 upwards of 25'.
 
 

Actually, that was this particular fire marshal's suggestion. They make 
surge protectors and outlet strips with very long cords - at the 
hardware store here up to 15' but like you said, I know they make 25 
footers. This eliminated quite a few daisy chains.

Stephen


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Re: Wireless USB dongle software installer won't open

2009-06-07 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar



Tom wrote:
 I bought one of these nifty USB wireless adapters http://tinyurl.com/
 66egqs for my wife's G4 MDD 1.4 GB running 10.4.11, and it works
 great. I just plugged the dongle into a USB port, installed the
 software from the included CD, and her Mac now has access to the
 Internet from the antenna on our Zoom DSL modem at the other end of
 the house (sitting atop a G5 and plugged into its Ethernet port).
 
 I decided it would be nice to do the same for another G4 we have, a
 2002 Quicksilver 1 GB also running 10.4.11, so I bought a second one
 of these gadgets. However, for some reason I can't figure out, the
 installer for the software won't work in the Quicksilver. The folder
 on the installer CD opens up and shows the installer package icon, and
 double-clicking on the icon makes it zoom out like it's going to work,
 but no window appears.
 
 I thought maybe the installer CD was defective, so tried the one that
 came with the first dongle, but it won't open either. Then I tried
 downloading the software off the NewerTech website and transferring it
 to the Quicksilver with a flash drive, but that installer won't open
 either.
 
 Next I tried logging in from a second account, but the installer won't
 work that way either. The installer .pkg just won't open up.
 
 Anybody got any idea what could be preventing this software installer
 from working in the Quicksilver?

Does the dongle require USB 2.0? I'm not sure if the 2002 has it. I had 
to add a PCI card on my old Quicksilver for USB 2.0. The installer may 
not run if it doesn't see the dongle.

Stephen

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Re: Dual Monitor - spanning behavior

2009-06-03 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Paul Kemner wrote:
 HiI recently got a g4 FW800. I'm currently using a VGA monitor on the DVI
 port, and I'm thinking of getting a 17 Studio LCD to plug into the ADC
 port.
 I'm planning on using the LCD monitor alone most of the time, but using the
 VGA monitor in spanning mode occasionally for graphics/drafting. If I do
 this, I will probably have the VGA monitor on a KVM switch, and the VGA will
 also be connected to a linux PC (I just won't bother to plug the keyboard
 into the switch).
 
 My question: If the VGA monitor is switched off (and it would probably look
 like it's unplugged due to the KVM switch), will my G4 boot in single screen
 mode, or will I just see half my desktop? Will I have to change the
 configuration every time I switch from one to two monitors?
 
 Thanks!

In my experience, Macs have generally been pretty graceful about this. 
What you need to do, though, is in the Display Control Panel in OS9 or 
Displays in System Preferences in OSX set the LCD monitor as 1 and 
move the screens around in the dialog box to match the positions of your 
monitors on your desk.

As long as you have your primary monitor set as  1  it will work fine 
even with the vga screen turned off.

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Re: Dual Monitor - spanning behavior

2009-06-03 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Paul Kemner wrote:
 
 My question: If the VGA monitor is switched off (and it would  
 probably look
 like it's unplugged due to the KVM switch), will my G4 boot in  
 single screen
 mode, or will I just see half my desktop? Will I have to change the
 configuration every time I switch from one to two monitors?
 
 Nope. OS X is good about seeing multiple monitors and handling the  
 changes, even on the fly. No need to do anything.
 
I don't want to get in a shooting match, but if your monitors are 
different sizes and resolutions, sometimes your resolution and colors 
will get reset in OSX too. This comes from experience on a G4 running 
Tiger with one LCD plugged into ADC and one plugged into DVI on the same 
video card. Sometimes if I didn't switch one of the flat panels on 
before I booted, the other one would get reset to some default values. 
The Apple display plugged into ADC was 1024x768 and the DVI one was 
first 1280x1024 and then replaced with a 1900x1600.

Stephen

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote:
 
 This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from  
 Computer Geeks a year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none  
 available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend?
 
 Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's  
 one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder')
 
 
 

I'm familiar with 3. Unfortunately, they are all at work and I am at 
home. I'll check the exact model numbers tomorrow.

One is a Magnavox that came from Wal-Mart to play throwaway VHS tapes 
and DVD's. It also makes great throwaway DVD's, it has a habit of 
quitting right when the dub is about 3/4 done.

The other 2 are a Panasonic and a high end Sony. Both work really well. 
The Sony is also really expensive as Sonys tend to be, and the Panasonic 
gives as good a quality dubs.

Like I said, I'll look up some model numbers tomorrow and get back to you.

Stephen

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

hosemonkey wrote:
 I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to
 get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a
 program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make
 them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated.

Best way I found is with a VHS/DVD combo deck. Just put it in the corner 
and let it rip! No computer necessary and the quality is pretty goll 
darn good.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Addedum to 68k-Macs

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

DKline wrote:
 The web address is http://groups.google.com/group/68k-macs/

Is this somehow different than the existing Vintage Macs list?

Stephen

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Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?

2009-05-08 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar



yersi...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Bruce writes,
 
 ~users/Library/Thunderbird which is where everything is stored.
 
 THANKS! :-D I got it ALL done now: paid my Emailchemy shareware, cleaned 
 up the 'demo mess' with the real one and moved Thunderbird and My 
 Collection over to the iBook!
 
 Woo-hoo! :-)
 
 ~Yersinia.

Shoot, got here a bit late. Strange, we live in Alaska time here in 
Alaska and I just got off work!

The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the 
new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and 
copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of 
the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile.

Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine 
and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh.

There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading 
out to the barbecue!)

Stephen

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Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?

2009-05-08 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

yersi...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Stephen writes,
 
 Shoot, got here a bit late. Strange, we live in Alaska time here in
 Alaska and I just got off work!
 
 The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the
 new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and
 copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of
 the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile.
 
 Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine
 and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh.
 
 There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading
 out to the barbecue!)
 
 Ehhh, I won't start any flame wars with you. As it happens -- even 
 though I hadn't seen your email yet -- what you suggested is exactly 
 what I did. I didn't have Tbird ON the iBook yet, so, after cleaning 
 up my new Tbird mail database on the G4 with the full version of 
 Emailchemy, I copied Tbird's installation disk image, as well as the 
 ~users/Library/Thunderbird like Bruce suggested onto the flash drive, 
 and moved the whole thing into the iBook -- where I installed Tbird, 
 booted it, shut it down and copied in that folder to ~users/Library in 
 the iBook. Then I rebooted Tbird, checked my folders and...
 
 BEEYOUTEEFUL! Er, at least if I have to reference any emails while on 
 the iBook -- all of it made the transition. I haven't had opportunity to 
 test it online for send/receive email yet. I will probably do that 
 tomorrow. But I don't expect problems, I mean, Tbird is picking up and 
 sending my emails on the G4, as you can see!
 
 I'm still in the 'adjustment' phase with TBird -- I don't regret the 
 decision but after 13 solid years of using Claris Emailer, change is 
 definitely noticeable. I'm sure it'll only take me a week or two for my 
 brain, which you all know is shielded by a solid neutronium skull, to 
 fully kick into it. And in some respects, I'm actually enjoying the 
 newness! I liken my new Tbird experience to when I first got OS X, only 
 on a smaller scale since it's just an emailer, not a new operating 
 system -- I'm finding things some things I like better, finding other 
 things a pain in the neck, but the overall result is that I like it.
 
 Oh, a barbecue? Please pass me the spare ribs! :-)
 
 ~Yersinia.

Glad you like it. One thing you do have to be careful about is letting 
your Inbox get too big. I'm an email pack rat too, I still have some 
here from back in the 80's. And a pile that were converted from Rmail in 
Emacs on Solaris. Anyways, I just helped a user at work because her 
Tbird crashed - her Inbox just reached 4GB(!!!) so you probably have a 
ways to go! My Inbox right now is at 1419 messages...

Stephen

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Re: Erase a drive to sell

2009-04-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

diane wrote:
 I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size 
 from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would 
 like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them. 
 Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Diane
 

There really is no quick and easy way that I know of. It kind of depends 
on what kind of data was on the hard drives as to what level of erase 
you need.

The best way is to use an application that writes either all zeros or 
random data over the drive. Disk Utility in OS X will do this, but if 
you are talking SCSI you're probably not working with OS X.

A big magnet simply doesn't work. Years ago I had a friend that put an 
old hard drive on a bulk tape eraser at the radio station. This thing 
would erase a whole tape reel with one zap. Didn't do a thing to the 
hard drive. Everything was still readable.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Erase a drive to sell

2009-04-04 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Kyle Hansen wrote:

 
 And the only reason I know this is it is one of the tools we use at the
 government lab to destroy drives...the other is the metal shredder which is
 WAY more fun.
 
 Kyle Hansen

Ya, but they don't let civillains have these, unless you roll your own 
from surplus!

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Re: Firefox memory?

2009-03-29 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

MnDel wrote:
 
 
 Dan wrote:
 For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs
 are up ( it's not consistent) .
 What vers of Firefox?
 What add-ons?
 Have you tried clearing its cache?
 
 version 3.0.8
 Adblock Plus 1.0.1
 I hadn't been clearing cache, so I found a place under prefs/privacy
 to get cache cleared after every shut down.
 Secondly, it typically takes 30 to 90 seconds for the 'pinwheel to
 stop' whenever I simply add an empty folder to bookmarks - that makes
 me think it is not related to cache or add-ons.
 Does this tidbit change the prognosis?
 Next time Firefox freezes will examine Console to see if I can
 translate something, but it's not a language I understand.
 thanks, Del
 

How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders?

I just switched over from Safari 3.2.1 to Firefox 3.0.7
because Safari would continually crash. I'm pretty lazy
about my thousands of bookmarks, and I notice Firefox
is far slower to open them.

One other thing that slows it way down is all the little
bookmark icons, whatever they are called. Loading those
slows it down too, maybe there is a corrupted one?

On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and
settings and create a new profile. This often solves
problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies
to Mac Firefox.

Hope this helps,
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Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!

2009-03-16 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Sheesh! $800 for dual 2GHz G5? Maybe I should part this one out and get 
an Intel Mac ;-)

Thanks for the detailed instructions, I'll give it a look-see when the 
machine is down for a few hours.

Stephen

Cyrus Griffin wrote:
 I do; however it does require some special tools. First, you have to  
 take the cover off, that says G5. There's a little grey post that you  
 have to take out on the top side, next to the video card. After thats  
 out (it does take some doing...) pull the grey plastic piece down  
 that's on the front of the processors. This releases 3 or 4 latches on  
 the top cover, which slides over to the left, and up. You can then  
 take the plastic part from the front off. Next, you need a very, very  
 long allen; I believe it's either a 2 or a 5/64. I have a security  
 set, and an extender that I got at a hardware store. There are two in  
 the front, (one on each) four in the middle (these are hard to get to)  
 and two on the back, one on each. You don't have to take these all the  
 way out, in fact I wouldn't recommend trying. They are wedge shaped  
 and hold the processors in with pressure on the sides, as opposed to  
 conventional methods of applying downwards pressure. Anyways, then you  
 just wiggle them out, and there are some phillips screws to take the  
 actual processors off the heat sync. Also there is probably a second,  
 smaller heat sync attached to the back side, with some metal or  
 plastic clips. It should be obvious how to take it off, as it's  
 attached to the processor itself. I would strongly suggest being  
 grounded while you do this; new processors are VERY, VERY hard to find  
 for dual 2GHz G5's, and may cost you upwards of $800. Hope that helps.
 
 
   -Cyrus
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
 
 I have a dual 2.0 GHz G5. On occasion, all the fans start running full
 speed. I know that this is a common problem with this particular  
 model,
 but I've searched all the forums for a fix to no avail.

 My guess is that the CPU heat sinks are not seated right, maybe the
 goo is dried out, the thermal grease thread brought the  
 possibility
 back to mind. At work, I had a server that was doing the same dance,  
 and
 reseating the heatsinks on the CPU's fixed it.

 Does anyone know how the get into the processors on a dual 2.0 GHz G5?
 For some reason, Apple has apparently removed all the Tech Docs for  
 this
 particular model from their website.

 Thanks,
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Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!

2009-03-16 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Thanks for the tips. Very strange behavior here, though, when I google 
for MenuMeters, Safari either hangs or crashes!

A rogue application or process may well be to blame, I've done as one of 
the other forums said and checked the CPU temps after a fan excursion 
and the CPU's were pretty warm. I'll keep an eye on it in Activity 
Monitor, though some say Activity Monitor can cause some background 
runaways too.

Stephen

Kris Tilford wrote:
 I've got a dual 2.3 that occasionally goes full fan on. I use  
 MenuMeters and such a full fan on condition is almost always  
 accompanied by full 100% CPU usage on both CPUs. I click on the CPU  
 monitor in the menu bar and select Open Activity Monitor which I  
 sort by the CPU usage column descending. The offending process is  
 always at the top in some sort of runaway mode. I highlight the  
 process and quit it, and if that doesn't work, force quit it, and  
 the fans always stop within just a few seconds. I haven't had this  
 happen much recently, but I've drastically scaled back on using  
 Firefox because it was most often the offending process.
 

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fans on G5 - off to the races!

2009-03-15 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

I have a dual 2.0 GHz G5. On occasion, all the fans start running full 
speed. I know that this is a common problem with this particular model, 
but I've searched all the forums for a fix to no avail.

My guess is that the CPU heat sinks are not seated right, maybe the 
goo is dried out, the thermal grease thread brought the possibility 
back to mind. At work, I had a server that was doing the same dance, and 
reseating the heatsinks on the CPU's fixed it.

Does anyone know how the get into the processors on a dual 2.0 GHz G5? 
For some reason, Apple has apparently removed all the Tech Docs for this 
particular model from their website.

Thanks,
  Stephen

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Re: Thermal grease?

2009-03-14 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

insightinmind wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 On Mar 12, 2009, at 6:46 PM, PeterH wrote:

 Silicone thermal grease needs no special preparation.

 Arctic Silver must be applied according to instructions, as this
 stuff is conductive, and it can short-out a processor, if improperly
 applied.
 Is this true?

 I'd think there's a chance the the word conductive is being
 misinterpreted?

 It seems to me that thermal paste is likely to be thermodynamically
 conductive and not likely to be electrically conductive?
 
 Does it have silver in it?
 
 Bill Connelly
 artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio
 myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio
 

Ya, I can tell you from experience that it IS electrically conductive. 
Got a blob where I shouldn't have on a motherboard once upon a time, 
luckily I got it cleaned off after it wouldn't run. But it was a windoze 
PC so it really doesn't matter, eh?

Arctic Silver has metal particles in the gel - I'm not sure if it is 
aluminum or real silver. Trade secret, I guess!

Stephen

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Re: virtual desktop manager

2009-01-31 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Jan 25, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
 
 I've been really addicted to virtual desktops since working on unix
 systems back in the 80's and 90's. I still use Classic on occasion,  
 so a
 Leopard upgrade is not in the cards. If there is another desktop  
 manager
 that works with current versions of Tiger, I'm open to suggestions.
 
 Virtue http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/, which is based on  
 Desktop MAnagerhttp://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12682 which I  
 used happily for years, until 10.5 and Spaces
 
 --

Well, I tried to find virtue in Virtue, but unfortunately was 
unsuccessful. It's lean and mean, which is good, but it's still a 
half-baked beta. I'd have to edit code to get what I needed. I'm
kinda lazt these days, that's why I'm on a Mac instead of linux.

I just found a new favorite:

you control: desktops

http://www.yousoftware.com/desktops/desktops.php

It's based on Spaces and runs in Tiger. I was kinda
wondering why no one did this before, Spaces was originally
supposed to come out in Tiger and a lot (but not all)
of the system hooks are in there.

You Desktops is not free, it's $30, but well worth it if
you want to run Spaces in Tiger.

Stephen

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virtual desktop manager

2009-01-25 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Greetings all - since we have managed to stray a bit from G3-G5 hardware 
issues, I thought I would ask here.

I've been running CodeTek VirtualDesktop Pro for multiple desktops and 
after the last Apple security update, it quit working. Nobody seems to 
be home at CodeTek, at least they are not answering my emails.

Here's the details, Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5, MacOS 10.4.11, CodeTek 
VirtualDesktop Pro 3.1. I uninstalled and tried to upgrade to v. 3.2 
with no change, and tried to install the v. 4 beta but the install codes 
don't work. When I login, VirtualDesktop launches, I see the manager 
window pop up, but then after about 10-15 seconds it just dies. If I 
launch it manually, it has the seem behavior. This is as a standard 
user, but same behavior if I'm logged in as admin.

I've been really addicted to virtual desktops since working on unix 
systems back in the 80's and 90's. I still use Classic on occasion, so a 
Leopard upgrade is not in the cards. If there is another desktop manager 
that works with current versions of Tiger, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,
  Stephen

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Re: Postscript Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

PeterH wrote:
 
 On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 The RAM is easy to find as it is standard PC RAM from back in the 386
 and 486 days, when every PC supported parity, but the parity could be
 turned off in many PCs.
 No. The HP parity RAM was different in the LJ4/4M. Normal PC parity
 RAM (9 chip RAM) could be used, but it required modification by
 soldering.
 
 The PS card in my 4M is:
 
 C2080-60001 Rev. B
 
 The four ROM chips are:
 
 1818-5437
 1818-5438
 1818-5439
 1818-5440
 
 Copyright:
 
 © 1992 HP-Boise
 
 © 1984-1992 Adobe
 
 © 1981 Linotype AG
 
 No RAM on the PS card itself. Of course, the printer has RAM. 2 MB, I  
 think.
 
 
 Added RAM cards:
 
 Three standard 4 MB with parity cards NEC MC-421000A36BH-80. Eight  
 424400 chips (data) and four 421000 chips (parity). All 80 ns.
 
 I believe the RAM cards were pulls from surplus MYLEX DAC960PL RAID  
 cards.

My memory is a bit foggy, but I believe the old HP
4M (M = Macintosh compatible) has a real Adobe Postscript
ROM on the added LocalTalk card. We used ours in a
network with Macs running System 7, PC's running
NT and WFW 3.1, and Sun Solaris. The Suns used
Postscript too, and they absolutely loved the
Laserwriters and worked really well with the 4M.

Stephen

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Re: Brother HL-2140 and Postscript

2009-01-20 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

PeterH wrote:
 
 On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
 The Brother HL-2140 User's Manual, which is on the Brother
 web site, does not seem to make any mention of Postscript:
 
 Brother offers BR-Script in its network laser printers and multi- 
 function lasers.
 
 The entry level lasers have USB drivers for MacOS and the usual  
 suspect OSes from Renton, WA.

This is all true. But the BR-Script unfortunately does not
provide very good Postscript emulation. I have an HL-5250DN,
and though it's a great printer, it has a Xerox Phaser 6130
sitting next to it for when I have to print Postscript.

Stephen


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Re: Brother HL-2140 and Postscript

2009-01-20 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

PeterH wrote:
 
 On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
 
 The Brother HL-2140 User's Manual, which is on the Brother
 web site, does not seem to make any mention of Postscript:

 This is all true. But the BR-Script unfortunately does not
 provide very good Postscript emulation. I have an HL-5250DN,
 and though it's a great printer, it has a Xerox Phaser 6130
 sitting next to it for when I have to print Postscript.
 
 I didn't say it was good PostScript emulation.
 
 In fact, it is relatively poor PostScript emulation.
 
 If you want good PostScript emulation, you do not go to a Xerox or to  
 a H-P, either, you go to an Apple LaserWriter or to a Linotronic.
 
 In the 600 dpi class, a LaserWriter Pro 630 or a LaserWriter 16/600  
 delivers flawless PostScript emulation.
 
 If I have to have truly flawless PostScript emulation, I go to a Pro  
 630 or 16/600 at 600 dpi, or to a Linotronic 300 at 2540 dpi.
 
 Yes, I DO have a Linotronic here in my home shop. Two, in fact: a  
 Linotronic 200P (the PostScript version of the Lino 200) and a  
 Linotronic 300.
 
 (About 50 years ago, I used to set type on a Linotype machine. The  
 Linotronic is today's incarnation of the venerable Linotype machine).
 

Ya, I just wanted to make sure that they got the message that
the Brother printers don't do Postscript very well. Actually,
the HP's do an emulation too, but it ain't half bad. Used to
drive one of my old bosses crazy though - he was a diehard LaTeX
user!

Man, which I had a Linotronic or two! I used to do some DTP for
work, but always had to settle for printing proofs on a QMS PS410
or Laserwriter 12/640 and then sending it out...brother can you
spare a...ummm...Linotronic?

Stephen

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