Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Let's see, G list and someone thinks Firewire is unusual ?

times have changed indeed
The calamities foretold by MacHeads here have come to pass.
The Seals are all in place now are they not?

HaHaHaHaHaHaHa !




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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:36 PM, 'Luis Salazar' via G-Group <
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> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I use a USB and Firewire card combo from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love,
> in all my PowerMacs. I did find that deep sleep issues would arise from
> time to time if the driver was not installed. These  cards are inexpensive
> on eBay. The card in question is:
>
> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320
>
> Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.
>
> Luis
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 1:42 PM, Luis Salazar <
> bigapplesc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I use a USB and Firewire combo card from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love,
> in all my PowerMacs. I found that deep sleep issues would arise if the
> driver was not installed. These  cards are still available and inexpensive
> on eBay. The card in question is:
>
>
> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
> Luis
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 12:45 PM, Neil Hughes 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Great...thanks.
>
>
> I've used PCI USB2 cards in the PowerMac without issues; I wasn't sure
>
> about something more unusual like Firewire.
>
>
> --
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> On 23/02/2018 16:48, Bruce  Johnson wrote:
>
>
> >
>
> > Yes, any PCI FW 400 card will work on a PCI Mac; it’s a very
>
> > standardized standard (and partly written by Apple to boot).
>
> >
>
> > --
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Re: List purge

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😃 if it was only that easy !


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On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Len Gerstel  wrote:

> Folks,
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Re: Blinking

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Curse of the Ancient Mummy in Apple Millennia Bruce

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On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
> >
> > I just posted my problem on MacRumors. Apparently the monitor is still
> OK:
> >
> > https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mdd-starting-ok-but-
> power-button-on-monitor-flashing.2076165/
>
> I've learned through experience that problems with a MDD are always the
> power supply :-(
>
> ISTR seeing mods for installing ATX power supplies that utilize a separate
> wall wart for providing power to the ADC bus. This might be a more
> economical solution than buying recapped PS’es.
>
> Also keeping 14 yo computers running is tough. That’s like 200 in computer
> years 8-)
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Re: Blinking

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Someone here ( probably Bruce ) will know instantly what this means. But
until they get here you could try what I a lesser mechanic would do.

I would shut down and look at all connections. I would look inside to  see
if any sings of electrical odors or visible signs of burning was present On
any boards. I would pop the RAM and reseat it. I would pop any boards
present and reseat them. I would reset any non volatile RAM.

If the problem reappeared after a reboot I would disconnect everything and
take the machine outside for a bath.
 Placing it on a stack of newspaper I would pull all the cards and RAM.
Using contact cleaner or 90% rubbing alcohol I would douse it all and scrub
it with an old toothbrush. Paying special attention to contacts on card
edges and inside of slots. Looking for corrosion ( green gunk), or very
dull looking metal.
I would use a very soft paint brush  and more liquid to wash and scrub  all
sides of every board looking for soot, burn marks, broken contacts, bad
solder joints.

Rinse everything and look at how much grime  or airborne tobacco smoke
show up in the rinse on the paper. I have revived several Old Macs by just
doing this alone.

Blot it with clean paper towels to speed up air drying.

You might find that reseating things, or cleaning a dirty contact solved  a
problem.

Also on your model give the PMU button a tap.
You can find a diagram or photo online.

Some software issue may be involved somehow, but my gut tells me it is a
hardware thing. Connections are always the first thing to look at.















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On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Suddenly my MDD running Tiger has started to blink, the power button on my
> monitor that is. Blink blink blink, 5 sec. break, blink blink blink.
>
> Anything going South? I hope not ...
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Cheers, Jörg.
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Re: Only one moniitor resolution?

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Did you change any hardware lately?
Did you rest PRAM and CUDA?

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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Sky King  wrote:

> I just noticed that my monitor (ViewSonic VA930m LCD) now works in only
> one resolution: 1280 x 1024, millions of colors. How did this happen and
> how do I fix it? Computer is a G4 MDD normally running OS 10.5.8, but when
> I re-start in 10.4.11, all resolutions and color choices are available. I
> recently did a fresh re-install of 10.5.8, but that's the only change.
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Re: Only one moniitor resolution?

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Compare the libraries for the display settings.
Open two windows or use a file manager utility like FileDaemon to look at
system files of each side by side comparing all display relevant files.
Figure out what is missing.


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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Sky King  wrote:

> I just noticed that my monitor (ViewSonic VA930m LCD) now works in only
> one resolution: 1280 x 1024, millions of colors. How did this happen and
> how do I fix it? Computer is a G4 MDD normally running OS 10.5.8, but when
> I re-start in 10.4.11, all resolutions and color choices are available. I
> recently did a fresh re-install of 10.5.8, but that's the only change.
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Re: Selling on LEM Swap

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Low End Mac has a Facebook page.


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On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Dan Cottler  wrote:

> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 03:14 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
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> > Did you try through Facebook?
>
> Do you have any specific groups in mind?
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> I’ve perused FB, but not found any serious/reliable groups for selling my
> stuff.  Not a big fan of FB.
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> - Dan.
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Re: Selling on LEM Swap

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Did you try through Facebook?


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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Dan Cottler  wrote:

> Tried that - I copied one of the messages with Beverly to him, and my
> summary (the OP of this thread) was addressed to him first.
>
> Still haven’t gotten a response from either Dan or Beverly.
>
> - Dan.
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:54 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
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> > Try contacting Dan direct. Not hard at all.
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Re: Selling on LEM Swap

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Try contacting Dan direct. Not hard at all.


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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Dan Cottler  wrote:

> hey LEM Dan,
>
> As you’ve read, Beverly, your LEM Swap list nanny, and I are having a
> dispute over what can be sold on LEM Swap.  I copied to you one of my
> responses to her but haven’t heard back from you.  In order to continue
> with things, I need your “ruling”…. At this point, she has moderated me and
> then not bothered to respond to my previous two emails.  After nearly a
> DECADE in good standing on LEM Swap, I find this treatment to be
> unacceptable.
>
>
> Beverly has accused me of being a dealer.
>
> Beyond the fact that there are quite a few dealers regularly dumping merch
> on LEM Swap without being hassled,,, I am NOT a dealer.  Because of health
> issues, my small consulting & Mac repair biz was closed over a year and a
> half ago and I’m now living in a nursing home.  I have +/- six months to
> liquidate everything before my old landlord feeds it to a dumpster.  I
> cannot use CraigsList so I am hoping to sell most of the stuff to my
> friends on LEM Swap.  …  software, old Macs, Mac parts, HDs, mounting
> hardware & screws, cables, displays, printers, disc burners, laserwriter
> fusers & toner carts, inkjet carts, floppies, floppy labels, CD DVD &
> Blu-Ray blanks, disc labels, disc sleeves, jewel boxes, etc.
>
>
> Beverly’s next complaint was about me selling disc sleeves because they’re
> not "related goods".
>
> The faq says:
> “LEM Swap is Low End Mac’s Google Group for buying and selling Mac OS
> computers and related goods.”
>
> IMO, like blank discs, labels, and jewel boxes, they *are* __Related
> Goods__. These items are all must-haves to burn discs ON YOUR MAC.
> Additionally, a few years ago, I WAS PERMITTED to sell such on LEM Swap
> with no problem.
>
> Your FAQ goes on to say items like digital cameras are not acceptable
> because they are standalone items that are unrelated to Macs.  That’s
> fine.  But the supplies I have are NOT stand-alone items.  They’re useless
> to anyone that doesn’t have a burner connected to their Mac. They’re PART
> of using a disc burner on a Mac.  Likewise, am I going to have the same
> problem with selling disc blanks?  Floppy discs?  Labels? ...
>
>
> Beverly then complained that I was obtaining products for resale.
>
> I bought the first brick from my old wholesaler (a mac-only warehouse;
> yes, I still have friend/relationships with several wholesalers) because I
> needed some for myself.  I offered the remainder on LEM Swap.  Within an
> hour, all that I had were sold out!  Then a strange thing happened - quite
> a few people blindly paypal’d money to me, expecting that it would be ok,
> and I would simply fill their orders.  I emailed them, offering to refund
> the money — but they said they’d prefer to wait, while I got more.  My
> wholesaler said he’d honor the same price, so I got two more bricks.  And
> now I’m stuck with 2/3 of a brick because Beverly deleted the 2nd ad!
> ..The wholesaler actually wants me to buy the rest of the palette heh.
>
> I expect, just as it happened a few years ago, that if I offer disc blanks
> on LEM Swap, the same thing will happen.
>
> The people on LEM Swap are hungry for these items at the prices I’m able
> to provide.  Why is this a problem?
>
>
> Thanks,
> - Dan (in NJ).
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Re: Cursor and PRAM Issues

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If this machine does have a CUDA it is separate issue having to do with
hardware config.
Very often forgotten on the pre G3 machines.

If anything was changed hardware wise such a machine with a CUDA would not
see the current config but be set for an old one.

HD changes, memory, bus cards etc.


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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Sky King  wrote:
>
> My MDD G4 has two hard drives, one with Leopard (10.5.8) and one with
> Tiger (10.4.11). I run Leopard 99% of the time.
>
> 1. After archiving and reinstalling Leopard and all updates, the cursor
> now exhibits aberrant behavior. It frequently flickers on and off,
> especially when using Photoshop, and also displays as an 'empty' square or
> string of squares through which the background can be seen. I've researched
> this problem thoroughly, but none of the solutions I have found have worked.
>
>
> I agree with Kris, this is most likely a video card issue, and may well be
> merely coincidental to the re-install.
>
>
> 2. One of the solutions suggested was to reset the PRAM/NVRAM. When doing
> this in the typical manner (holding down the Command, Option, P, and R keys
> at start-up) from Leopard, the computer starts up in Tiger from the other
> hard drive
>
>
> Entirely expected if the Tiger volume is the first one on the bus.
> Clearing the NVRAM deletes the value holding the preferred startup volume.
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Re: Cursor and PRAM Issues

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Is there a CUDA switch on this machine? Did you press it?


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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Doug McNutt 
wrote:

> I recently replaced the power supply on a G4 and just because it was easy
> I checked voltage on the 15 V (something like that) lithium dry cell on
> back-bottom corner of the motherboard. It was way below in voltage and
> clearly printed 10 year lifetime. It's a half length triple C and it wasn't
> hard to find in the neighborhood. It had been running the clock while the
> machine was shut down.
>
>
>
> On 03/21/2017 12:58 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
>
>> Booting from the Tiger volume after PRAM Zap is normal, the startup disk
>> parameter is stored in PRAM so it has been reset to a default value.
>>
>> The aberrant cursor behavior  doesn’t sound like a PRAM related issue.
>> More likely it is a software conflict.  Try creating a new user on the
>> Leopard volume and see if the the same behavior occurs for that user.
>>
>>
>> Clark Martin
>> A designated driver on the information Super Highway
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Sky King  wrote:
>>>
>>> My MDD G4 has two hard drives, one with Leopard (10.5.8) and one with
>>> Tiger (10.4.11). I run Leopard 99% of the time.
>>>
>>> 1. After archiving and reinstalling Leopard and all updates, the cursor
>>> now exhibits aberrant behavior. It frequently flickers on and off,
>>> especially when using Photoshop, and also displays as an 'empty' square or
>>> string of squares through which the background can be seen. I've researched
>>> this problem thoroughly, but none of the solutions I have found have worked.
>>>
>>> 2. One of the solutions suggested was to reset the PRAM/NVRAM. When
>>> doing this in the typical manner (holding down the Command, Option, P, and
>>> R keys at start-up) from Leopard, the computer starts up in Tiger from the
>>> other hard drive!
>>>
>>> What's going on here
>>>
>>
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4

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You may find the controllers and drives if you join the Low End Macs Swap
list.

Good luck


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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:51 PM, William Tomcanin 
wrote:

> I currently use the G4 to run legacy S/W -- I guess it's more of a hobby
> machine and not my primary H/W.
>
> I do have a lot of audio and photo files on it, as well as some legacy PPC
> S/W that I do not want to loose.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:10 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <
> fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
>> workstation?
>> That would mean a great difference.
>> Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the
>> world. Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
>>> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>>>
>>> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
>>> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
>>> rest of the G4.
>>>
>>> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
>>> controllers.
>>> -James
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would
>>> appreciate receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for
>>> my "old" (original) hard drive.
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years.  How should I
>>> replace and/or upgrade it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
workstation?
That would mean a great difference.
Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the world.
Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight 
wrote:

> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>
> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
> rest of the G4.
>
> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
> controllers.
> -James
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin  wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
> receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
> (original) hard drive.
>
> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years.  How should I
> replace and/or upgrade it?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: Should I upgrade my 533 MHz Power Mac G4 to Leopard?

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Do you ever use benchmarking?
Do you keep records of it?

go ahead, Benchmark your prestn OS. And also give it a task on a file to
accomplish like sending a 5 GB movie file to an external drive and write
down the time.

The install your dream OS and perform the exact same tests.  Compare. Then
you will know for yourself and no one can second guess you or lead you
astray. You can always shift back.


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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:49 PM, JackMacWindows 
wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 6:27:22 AM UTC-5, Dmitry the
> Zuryanovich wrote:
>>
>>
>> Words about iPod are strange... You can take some other IDE HDD and try
>> it there.
>>
>
> What I mean by "installing on an iPod" is that I used the iPod as a hard
> disk and installed it there, NOT changing the iPod's OS to Leopard.
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Re: Should I upgrade my 533 MHz Power Mac G4 to Leopard?

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Off hand bloatware is bloatware.Asking you system to handle Bloat is just
asking for trouble.

A balanced system is always the most usable.Rarely is much if anything
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:59 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
wrote:

> fan clicking on an iPod?
> That is one modded out iPod you have.
>
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:26 AM, James E. Therrault 
> wrote:
>
>> My 2¢ worth...  I have a Powerbook G4 1.25GHz running Tiger 10.4.9 and a
>> Powerbook 1.67GHz running Leopard 10.5x and the slower machine is faster
>> and more stable.  Sometimes the latest is not the greatest...
>>
>> JT in Austin, TX
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:
>>
>> > Since you are not concerned about classic mode then it should be fine.
>>  I do not know what you expect to achieve with the upgrade if Tiger is
>> working well for you.  Saying that, I upgraded my 933 G4 to Leopard and it
>> is good and stable (10.5.3) -  Although I DO miss my Classic applications
>> now.  Leopard boots a little faster but many people I have spoken to said
>> Tiger runs smoother and sometimes faster on the G4’s.  Check some online
>> comparisons.   Tiger having all the improvements made from OS 10.1, 10.2, &
>> 10.3 ran nicely for me.
>> >
>> > Personally on a 533 MHZ machine I think I would stick with Tiger unless
>> you really want/need the new features in Leopard.  Ram?  I do not remember
>> what the capacity of the 533 is but the more the better especially if you
>> upgrade.
>> >
>> >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:38 PM, JackMacWindows 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I had asked this on the Leopard Group, but nothing was showing up, and
>> nobody has posted there in ages anyways.
>> >>
>> >> I have a Power Mac G4 Digital Audio with a G4 clocked at 533 MHz. I
>> installed OS X Leopard on an iPod to test, and it seems like it runs
>> somewhat fine (other than my fan clicking, which does not have anything to
>> do with Leopard). I currently have Tiger as the main operating system.
>> >>
>> >> Should I upgrade the Tiger installation to Leopard? Loss of Classic
>> Mode should not affect me because I have a working OS 9 installation I can
>> boot to. Can I also keep that OS 9 installation on the same partition?
>> >>
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Re: Should I upgrade my 533 MHz Power Mac G4 to Leopard?

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fan clicking on an iPod?
That is one modded out iPod you have.


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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:26 AM, James E. Therrault 
wrote:

> My 2¢ worth...  I have a Powerbook G4 1.25GHz running Tiger 10.4.9 and a
> Powerbook 1.67GHz running Leopard 10.5x and the slower machine is faster
> and more stable.  Sometimes the latest is not the greatest...
>
> JT in Austin, TX
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:
>
> > Since you are not concerned about classic mode then it should be fine.
>  I do not know what you expect to achieve with the upgrade if Tiger is
> working well for you.  Saying that, I upgraded my 933 G4 to Leopard and it
> is good and stable (10.5.3) -  Although I DO miss my Classic applications
> now.  Leopard boots a little faster but many people I have spoken to said
> Tiger runs smoother and sometimes faster on the G4’s.  Check some online
> comparisons.   Tiger having all the improvements made from OS 10.1, 10.2, &
> 10.3 ran nicely for me.
> >
> > Personally on a 533 MHZ machine I think I would stick with Tiger unless
> you really want/need the new features in Leopard.  Ram?  I do not remember
> what the capacity of the 533 is but the more the better especially if you
> upgrade.
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:38 PM, JackMacWindows 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I had asked this on the Leopard Group, but nothing was showing up, and
> nobody has posted there in ages anyways.
> >>
> >> I have a Power Mac G4 Digital Audio with a G4 clocked at 533 MHz. I
> installed OS X Leopard on an iPod to test, and it seems like it runs
> somewhat fine (other than my fan clicking, which does not have anything to
> do with Leopard). I currently have Tiger as the main operating system.
> >>
> >> Should I upgrade the Tiger installation to Leopard? Loss of Classic
> Mode should not affect me because I have a working OS 9 installation I can
> boot to. Can I also keep that OS 9 installation on the same partition?
> >>
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Re: Adobe CS2 licence broken

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I gave up trying to leverage freebies when I decided to at least try to be
serious about what I was doing.

I could not afford the Adobe programs I wanted. Suffered years of
disappointment. Thought I would have to save to buy just one. Actually did
get Dreamweaver CS2. Got some Adobe access through the University, taking
classes ( you could register as a Senior guest perhaps?)
Wound up using GIMP, work got done but not in a happy way. And open source
video proggies never worked for me.

I accept Adobe Cloud as the blessing it is. Cheap enough  because it keeps
me from doing stupid things with the money.

I recommend it.
Having programs that ACTUALLY WORK , can do the many things better since
CS2, with support is VERY satisfying.

YOUR WORK WILL GREATLY IMPROVE

YOU WILL HAVE A LOT LESS TO WORRY ABOUT



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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years without problems. My
> MDD had crashed recently and after I put my recent CCC backup back on my
> crashed volume I cannot use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial
> period has expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The server
> is not online ...
>
> What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any comments? Thanks a lot.
>
> Best regards, Jörg.
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Re: G4 questions

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I was thinking in terms of hardware config non volatile system settings.
Maybe preventing the drive changes/OS changes


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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson <
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:

> Power management is entirely different in laptops versus desktops, which
> have the CUDA switch.
>
> Power Management issues tend to be on the order of ‘Won’t start up at
> all’; which may be the issue here, so it’s a good thought!
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/757129?start=0&tstart=0>
>
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 7:50 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
> wrote:
>
> This may sound dumb. I will risk it.
>
> Do these machines have a CUDA switch?
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> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:
>
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
>>
>>
>> It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe
>> Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you
>> should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use
>> something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code
>> from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is
>> twice as big as necessary.
>>
>> I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD
>> set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers
>> wouldn't boot.
>>
>>
>> The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all
>> the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to
>> boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base
>> system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you
>> need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer
>> packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the
>> internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access
>> to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so
>> you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any
>> other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local
>> network connection.
>>
>> Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched
>> 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except
>> OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the
>> product key...
>> Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
>>
>>
>> Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can
>> download from Apple?
>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>
>>
>>
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Re: G4 questions

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This may sound dumb. I will risk it.

Do these machines have a CUDA switch?

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude  wrote:
>
>
> Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
>
>
> It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe
> Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you
> should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use
> something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code
> from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is
> twice as big as necessary.
>
> I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD
> set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers
> wouldn't boot.
>
>
> The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all
> the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to
> boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base
> system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you
> need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer
> packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the
> internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access
> to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so
> you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any
> other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local
> network connection.
>
> Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched
> 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except
> OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the
> product key...
> Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
>
>
> Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can
> download from Apple?
> 
>
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Re: Removing obsolete apps

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Nice "tiddler" .

110 cc?



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On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Jörg  wrote:

> They have. Since the beginnings of OSX any software or "programs" are
> called apps, short for "applications". IIRC of course ...
>
> Greetings, Yawg.
>
> 2016-04-21 15:27 GMT+02:00 W.Adrian D'Alessio :
>
>> G machines have "Apps"? How modern of them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Ivan Marsh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "safely" remove apps. In general you
>>> can just drag them to the trash and poof they are gone. If you want to make
>>> sure that 100% of the associated files go with them then you can use an app
>>> deletion tool such as appzapper or something similar.
>>>
>>> Here is a good breakdown of those kinds of apps for you.
>>> http://lifehacker.com/5828738/the-best-app-uninstaller-for-mac
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> How can I safely remove "broken" apps?
>>>> I'm running Tiger using TenFourFox.
>>>> But more and more apps like Dropbox or Skype aren't supported anymore.
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> Jörg from the Netherlands.
>>>>
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Re: Removing obsolete apps

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I do no longer have newer Macs at home.  I used University machines for FCP
into the Intel era. I also have MasOS 10.1 at home. I do not recall ever
calling them apps.

I am old school. To me small programs are "utilities" or "tools".

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On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Jörg  wrote:

> They have. Since the beginnings of OSX any software or "programs" are
> called apps, short for "applications". IIRC of course ...
>
> Greetings, Yawg.
>
> 2016-04-21 15:27 GMT+02:00 W.Adrian D'Alessio :
>
>> G machines have "Apps"? How modern of them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Ivan Marsh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "safely" remove apps. In general you
>>> can just drag them to the trash and poof they are gone. If you want to make
>>> sure that 100% of the associated files go with them then you can use an app
>>> deletion tool such as appzapper or something similar.
>>>
>>> Here is a good breakdown of those kinds of apps for you.
>>> http://lifehacker.com/5828738/the-best-app-uninstaller-for-mac
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> How can I safely remove "broken" apps?
>>>> I'm running Tiger using TenFourFox.
>>>> But more and more apps like Dropbox or Skype aren't supported anymore.
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> Jörg from the Netherlands.
>>>>
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Re: Removing obsolete apps

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On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Ivan Marsh 
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> Hi,
>
> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "safely" remove apps. In general you
> can just drag them to the trash and poof they are gone. If you want to make
> sure that 100% of the associated files go with them then you can use an app
> deletion tool such as appzapper or something similar.
>
> Here is a good breakdown of those kinds of apps for you.
> http://lifehacker.com/5828738/the-best-app-uninstaller-for-mac
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> How can I safely remove "broken" apps?
>> I'm running Tiger using TenFourFox.
>> But more and more apps like Dropbox or Skype aren't supported anymore.
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Jörg from the Netherlands.
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Re: My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey.

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Go Backwards  on the OS versions. Find one that is much less bloat.

A balanced system is better than one with bells and whistles that clog it
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Len Gerstel  wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Dani Kimbro wrote:
>
> Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a pawn
>> shop.
>>
> snip
>
>> . I bought a radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it would
>> work, but for some reason the computer can't figure out what to do with it
>> based on the KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to 10.5.8, updating the
>> KEXTs via ATI's software on the webs. Nothing. Still blue screen and curser
>> when I try to start it. I know its these KEXTs and how the graphics card is
>> responding to them based on the fact that if I remove them completely the
>> computer starts in normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got
>> any ideas of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional
>> before I just blow money on a different model card?
>>
>
> I used one in a G4. Not a KEXT problem, a hardware issue. There are 2 pins
> you need to disable do to apple using them for ADC connectors.
>
> Here are instructions:
>
> http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11
>
> Len
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Re: I want to set up my G5 to run Linux

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Then LEM has failed your need. Times have changed.

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:27 PM, GLT  wrote:

> The newest info I found at lowendmac.com was from 2012.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 5:54:05 PM UTC-5, Fluxstringer wrote:
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>> http://lowendmac.com/linux/max.shtml
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Re: I want to set up my G5 to run Linux

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> I've looked around a little on the Web for how to set up a PowerMac G5
> with Linux, but could use suggestions/advice--*NOT* mere pointers to
> information sources--and maybe a small amount of help by Email or phone
> (within the USA). (I'm a long-time Mac user and know a little about Linux
> too, so I shouldn't need much help by email or phone.)
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> Thanks!
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Re: (1st post) Can a G4 be upgraded to handle current DAWs?

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Give an idea of your budget. And how much work are you willing to do to
keep up an old OS and keep it free of bloat?

How much do you know about work flow? Chopping big projects into smaller
parts?
Also what do you know about audio, and the various bit strategies etc?

Some folks can produce on an iPad. or a phone.

what equipment do you already own that you want to keep. If there were
newer alternatives would you go to them if they were cost effective or is
there emotional baggage that might go with keeping old stuff if
connectivity is a problem ?


If money is a problem but you have lots of time and patience a G4 would be
better than nothing. Just know that if you need specialty items to get the
audio into the machine , even used vintage stuff can add up fast..

Mac OS is fine. But again what software do you intend to use? What are it's
limits ?

Finding the right Android tablet for cheap with a 4 core nVidia  and some
cheap apps could be more satisfying. Your mileage may vary.

If you Dream of Ableton, Logic, Pro tools or Audition  newer than about 5
years old a Used PC would be easier.

Consider your wallet, time and what you want to accomplish

Who is your audience?


Those are things only you can decide.



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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:14 PM, James Cordano 
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> I'm trying to find the most cost effective path to a Mac that can run one
> of the current DAW's (Digital Audio Workstation) for a home recording
> studio.
> I have my old G4, and I just assumed it's too limited in terms of max RAM
> capacity, motherboard etc., so that no matter what I jam in there, it could
> never run at the level these applications demand- esp. for editing etc.
> Then I came across a couple videos of guys using beefed up G5's, and
> thought I'd at least ask.
> According to 'common wisdom', if I were to put together an '06-'11 Mac
> Pro, they'd need to have something like this onboard:
> Apple Mac Pro 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core Xeon 16GB 240GB SSD 640GB to compete with
> the newer systems the software is optimized for.
> With that in mind, is it an exercise in futility to even attempt to throw
> $ at my old Mac, or has/is anyone having success in a home studio setting
> with one?
> Thanks
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Re: Swap out video cards: G4 867 dual into G4 1.25 dual?

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Pulling the battery will dump the PRAM memory. If there is a CUDA switch on
the mobo yes, get a small stick, reach in and hold it down at least 60
seconds.

CUDA looks like a tiny silver square with a black or red tiny button in the
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On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Mira Kehoe  wrote:

> Thanks, everyone, for your advice!  I successfully swapped out the video
> cards this afternoon; it only took 10 minutes.  Some applications seem to
> take a little more time to open or close, but everything seems to be
> working fine as of now.
>
> I appreciate the experience of this group many thanks!
>
> Mira
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015, Mira Kehoe  wrote:
>
>> By "home page", I mean my "desktop"... I'm the only user on this
>> computer, so I don't log in.
>>
>> The Apple person said the the graphics card is the last thing to "boot
>> up"  ... I'm not sure that's the term he used, but he said that's why
>> the blue screen is taking so long.
>>
>> It wouldn't hurt to change out the cards and see how it behaves.
>>
>> I think that using the utility you mentioned could be a good idea, but
>> I could possibly get myself in a situation I can't interpret.
>>
>> The Apple Genius Bar will let you bring in any Apple device, they just
>> won't "repair" anything that's too old.  They have been very helpful
>> over the years.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts,
>>
>> Mira
>>
>> On 10/24/15, NODEraser  wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 9:54 PM, mkehoe  wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Apple genius bar person was pretty sure that the video card on the
>> >> 1.25
>> >> dual G4 is causing the symptoms I've been having: long time on the
>> solid
>> >> blue screen before my home page appears, etc.
>> >
>> > They still provide support at the Genius Bar for PowerPC products?
>> > That's pretty surprising. When you say "home page", I assume you're
>> > talking about the login screen when booting? I don't see how your
>> > graphics card could affect that unless there's something going on with
>> > hardware identification/initialization that is causing a delay. You
>> > could use a utility like XPostFacto to enter verbose mode on startup
>> > and look at any messages that stall for a while.
>> >
>> > While there is a difference between those two cards (the 9000 is a
>> > level or two higher than the MX 4 in terms of performance, depending
>> > on the specific model of card) there shouldn't be any noticeable
>> > difference in OS X itself, unless you're doing some gaming or running
>> > a really high resolution.
>> >
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Re: Swap out video cards: G4 867 dual into G4 1.25 dual?

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Does that machine have a PRAM and CUDA button? If so dump both no matter
what you do. It could just be old settings and config causing problems.

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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Cameron Kaiser 
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> > Can I take out the video card from my G4 867 dual MDD that has been
> sitting
> > idle for 6-7 years and install it in my G4 1.25 dual MDD?
>
> Yes, it should just work. The 9000 Pro is overall a more powerful card than
> the 4 MX, but the performance delta is not large. If you want the gory
> details on the differences, see
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/show/946/10
>
> It's no difficult than swapping any other AGP card.
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Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?

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I have bought 2 machines in the past from RMartin on the swap list. He
ships from Michigan. They were / are good machines. And prices were right.


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> Good suggestion: that occurred to me, but the screw is not damaged and a
> proper tool will remove it. And since I do not have a 10 inch or longer
> drill bit I would have to buy that tool which probably cost about same as
> the proper tool.
>
> Anyway probably a mute point since the G5 PS located where the computer
> was dropped and most likely is damaged. Still a possible project if I get
> bored.
>
> Meanwhile the Sawtooth is is just fine. I may replace it with a 2008 or
> 2009 iMac which will run 10.5 or 10.6 if I need more speed and can find one
> locally for a good price. Thanks -- glen
>
>
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> *Subject:* Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
>
> Reach in with a long reach bit and drill the head off the screw.
>
> Or use one of those screw extractor bits ( with the tiny grip teeth) on a
> long reach extension. Don't let one screw discourage you.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group <
> g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Follow up:
>  I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today and it
> allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the  apps I used with the
> G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is
> workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows
> me to access and edit my legacy files.
>
> I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked
> great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11?
> Then there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB
> of the SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion
> to buy an adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full
> capacity of the drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software.
>
> I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is
> an Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the
> screws and a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but
> easy to figure out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws
> that require a lot of patience and some improvised tools to get to work.
> But it does the job so I'm OK with it.
>
> Fixing the G5:
> My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS may be a
> good replacement  had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no surprise.
> Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same
> symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it
> apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and
> got 7 of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one
> that won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use
> again I am giving up on the G5 repair.
>
> Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* 'glenstrek' via G-Group 
> *To:* G-Group 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM
> *Subject:* SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028
>
> I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive
> to my G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X
> driver with a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone
> had any success or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The
> hard drive is a 320 MB SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade
> processor with 2 GB RAM and running 10.4.11.
>
> The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a
> USB 2.0 card or the U

Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Reach in with a long reach bit and drill the head off the screw.

Or use one of those screw extractor bits ( with the tiny grip teeth) on a
long reach extension. Don't let one screw discourage you.


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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group <
g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Follow up:
>  I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today and it
> allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the  apps I used with the
> G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is
> workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows
> me to access and edit my legacy files.
>
> I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked
> great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11?
> Then there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB
> of the SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion
> to buy an adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full
> capacity of the drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software.
>
> I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is
> an Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the
> screws and a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but
> easy to figure out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws
> that require a lot of patience and some improvised tools to get to work.
> But it does the job so I'm OK with it.
>
> Fixing the G5:
> My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS may be a
> good replacement  had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no surprise.
> Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same
> symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it
> apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and
> got 7 of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one
> that won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use
> again I am giving up on the G5 repair.
>
> Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* 'glenstrek' via G-Group 
> *To:* G-Group 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM
> *Subject:* SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028
>
> I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive
> to my G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X
> driver with a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone
> had any success or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The
> hard drive is a 320 MB SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade
> processor with 2 GB RAM and running 10.4.11.
>
> The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a
> USB 2.0 card or the USB 1.1 native bus using a SATA-USB adapter. I would
> rather have the drive inside the computer and be able to boot the drive
> into 10.4.11. I can't do that when connected with USB on that old G4. My
> other option is a SATA/Firewire external enclosure which should be bootable
> and would cost about the same.
>
>
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Re: Giant Sata HD bolluxes up my DA G4

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

USB cards should be cheap if you can find one.


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On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:41 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
wrote:

> Can the G4 address that much space? Then put the drive in a USB case and
> use the best USB card you can find. Side step the ATA bottle neck.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:27 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> >> It's hooked up to a 133ATA card. I have 120GB boot drive and 300GB data
>> >> drive.
>>
>> The earliest so-called ATA 133 cards were really ATA 100 cards with a hack
>> which improved their performance to ATA 133 levels.
>>
>> In theory, an ATA 100 card for a Mac is still limited to 131,072 MB.
>>
>> Also in theory, an ATA 133 card for a Mac has the 131,072 MB restriction
>> lifted.
>>
>> In theory.
>>
>> But that was nearly 20 years ago.
>>
>> These days, so-called "legacy" hardware for support of hard drives, more
>> specifically SATA hard drives, has 2 TB as its "breaking point".
>>
>> Go back to a configuration which works, and don't "tickle the tail of the
>> dragon".
>>
>> Remember, an ATA PCI card for a PPC Mac "models" the connected hard
>> drive(s) as SCSI drives.
>>
>> Up to four drives per card ... Bus 0 Master and Slave, Bus 1 Master and
>> Slave.
>>
>> A Mac can accept up to four such ATA cards, but install the fifth such
>> card and the machine will not pass POST ... it will hang (I know this as I
>> tested it on a 9500/9600).
>>
>> There are still some fundamental limitations in a PPC Mac, and hard drive
>> support is one of these.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Giant Sata HD bolluxes up my DA G4

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Can the G4 address that much space? Then put the drive in a USB case and
use the best USB card you can find. Side step the ATA bottle neck.


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On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:27 AM,  wrote:

>
> >> It's hooked up to a 133ATA card. I have 120GB boot drive and 300GB data
> >> drive.
>
> The earliest so-called ATA 133 cards were really ATA 100 cards with a hack
> which improved their performance to ATA 133 levels.
>
> In theory, an ATA 100 card for a Mac is still limited to 131,072 MB.
>
> Also in theory, an ATA 133 card for a Mac has the 131,072 MB restriction
> lifted.
>
> In theory.
>
> But that was nearly 20 years ago.
>
> These days, so-called "legacy" hardware for support of hard drives, more
> specifically SATA hard drives, has 2 TB as its "breaking point".
>
> Go back to a configuration which works, and don't "tickle the tail of the
> dragon".
>
> Remember, an ATA PCI card for a PPC Mac "models" the connected hard
> drive(s) as SCSI drives.
>
> Up to four drives per card ... Bus 0 Master and Slave, Bus 1 Master and
> Slave.
>
> A Mac can accept up to four such ATA cards, but install the fifth such
> card and the machine will not pass POST ... it will hang (I know this as I
> tested it on a 9500/9600).
>
> There are still some fundamental limitations in a PPC Mac, and hard drive
> support is one of these.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Giant Sata HD bolluxes up my DA G4

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Disconnect it and fix your problem. Then get a smaller drive.
Why encumber your trusty work horse with problems?

Balance is very valuable in a system.



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On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:34 PM, smac0031  wrote:

> I got a 2TB sata HD and Pata Sata converter for it to use in my DA G4
> running 10.1.11.
>
> It's hooked up to a 133ATA card. I have 120GB boot drive and 300GB data
> drive.
>
> The computer just hangs on boot-up. The optical drive does nothing.
> Starting with the optical empty
> does nothing. The computer just hangs.
>
> It's had startup issues for some time.  It order to reboot it you have to
> use the button on the front. Same
> for shutdown. I just let it run all the time.
>
> Looks like the giant 2TB is useless for this machine and I realize this
> computer is 15 years old. Unless somebody
> has some ideas.
>
> Thanks
> Mark Murphy
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Re: NSA FBI warning Your browser had been locked

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probably just sell you something since you do not mention paying out
anything.


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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:39 PM, smac0031  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Somehow I got redirected to some website with this header, I think its
> ransomware.
>
> As soon as it opened I went to force quit and quit TenFourFox 31.2.0 and
> then shut down my DA G4.
>
> A couple of hours later I restarted everything and launched Ten4 and this
> site came up immediately. I opened another tab and
> closed the "NSA FBI" thing that claims to monitoring all of my illegal
> activities whatever those might be.
>
> I don't thing this is much of a threat unless you click on this thing. I
> didn't have much trouble bypassing it.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this garbage or knows
> anything about it. What is it supposed to be
> able to do.
>
> Mark Murphy
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Re: Encrypted File

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Throw it on Google Drive. Send them a share link via email.
You have a google account so you already have Google Drive.
And you can delete it from the Google Drive later.
No big deal/ Just delete it from trash too.




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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Alex Sciortino  wrote:

> IIRC you should be able to use file vault.
> On Jul 18, 2014 7:28 PM, "smac0031"  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have an extremely important file that I need to send to someone. I've
>> never bothered with encryption because I've never had to send anything this
>> important before. This is not financial stuff, it is a PDF that will
>> probably be read on a Kindle or a PC or possibly a smart phone. In case you
>> are
>> wondering it is a novel.
>>
>> I don't know if the destination makes a difference, I have the option of
>> sending it to a gmail account, a company email account or some other account
>> this person has.
>>
>> From what I understand you can scramble a file and attach it to an email
>> and on arrival the person uses a key and unlocks it. I primarily use gmail
>> myself and I kind of think letting Google have this forever and ever is
>> not a good idea.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Mark Murphy
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Re: OPTIMIZE Crashed my Quicksilver Also

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

tag ? You will have to go retro to give meaning to that. You mean "subject"
?
Well a Quicksilver is a 'G' machine.So what do you object to about the
subject?
That is is software related?
Are you familiar with the  " one step removed " rule?

Oh? You mean his "SIG"  since you took time to reproduce it. Well It's his
opinion. And in a rather small SIG and a restrained one compared to those
seen here 10 years ago.

Actually by the traditions of LEM it is your extra post that is "off topic "


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

>  With all due respect, and in my humble opinion, this kind of tag has no
> place on our List.
>
> Even the spelling is incorrect...
>
> Larry
>
>
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> RHB
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Re: OPTIMIZE Crashed my Quicksilver Also

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Optomize = kill off these old boxes so these cheap a**ess will buy some new
Apples

The phone and mobile application marketers are now seeking other venues to
sell their services to corporations.

I swear there is an Android app that kills power supply battery chargers on
phones and tablets.

I don't believe what any of them are saying.


On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:51 AM, ROBERT BAUCOM  wrote:

> Yep, used it one time about a year ago. Crashed my 2000 Quicksilver (with
> 933MHz upgrade). Seem to remember, also lost some files.
> Enraged, as I received this with other Programs from OWC; I ran its CD
>  through my trusty Shredder (with slot for CD's and DVD's). Only use
> TechToolPro now.
>
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Re: Hard Drive problem with G3, 266 mhz tower

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Starting with the extremely simple basics  you ahve already;

1. Cleaned all port and cable end connections with an old toothbrush and
contact cleaner or  isopropyl alcohol. Scrubbing them thoroughly.

2. After plugging them in and trying to boot up, wiggled the cables along
their length to see it you could hear any tentative sounds from the hard
drive.

3. Inspected  cables for damage of any kind.

4. Made a continuity check on any suspect cables.

5. dumped the PRAM.

6. Reset the CUDA switch on the motherboard  ( I cannot recall if that is
PCI  only.)

7. Made sure the motherboard battery is in good shape.



On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Iamanamma  wrote:

> I am having trouble getting this old Mac to recognize hard drives.  I took
> one out because I thought it was bad.  Hard drive set up was not
> recognizing the hard drive on the ATA bus.  I was using an OS 8.6 install
> disk to start up so I could re-format it and re-install the OS.  I had a
> new ATA hard drive, so I took the old one out and replaced it. I started up
> from the CD, and the same thing happened.  Nothing was visible on the ATA
> bus.  I got out another install disk, 9.2 this time, and restarted from it.
>  This time I used Apple System Profiler to see if anything was there, and
> sure enough it was.  I re-initialized the disk (Macintosh OS Standard),
> shut down and started up from the OS 8.6 disk again. Again, no hard drive
> on the ATA bus.  Why on earth would OS 9.2 recognize the drive, but not OS
> 8.6? Could this be a simple as a jumper problem?  The old drive I took out
> was a Quantum Fireball, the new one I put in is a Seagate. I really need
> this unit to be running OS 8.6 and not 9.
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Re: DA G4 will not shut down

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I had to replace the power button when this happened on one of my PPC Macs



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> Have you tried resetting the PMU? Or reinstalling OS X?
>
> My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It
> just malingers.
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Re: Invalid Sibling Link?

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But whatever you do get a new drive for the machine. One that old is likely
on it's way to the trash bin.

Although on youtube I see the magnets can be fun to play with.



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> > Try re-setting the PRAM
>
> That won't help a disk error.
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Re: Your Browser has been locked up! Send $300 to...

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you mean OS 9? Mac OS9 ?

Someone is pulling your leg.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM, smac0031  wrote:

> I was surfing the web last week and my browser locked up and this popup
> appeared. These clowns wanted $300.
>
> Earlier that day I had seen a Tekzilla that mentioned something about
> Ransomware. According to what Tekzilla described this is where a program
> gets installed on your machine where everything gets password encrypted and
> the perpetrators won't unencrypt your system without you forking over $300.
>
> I went to force quit and quit TenFourFox. Then I shut down my machine and
> unplugged my router from the cable modem. I then powered up my machine and
> backed up my document folder and then I reconnected to my cable modem and
> changed some passwords.
>
> I really haven't noticed anything unusual other than I was playing Master
> of Orion under system 9 and and somehow the mouse button got stuck wide
> open. My system still doesn't like Flash much and Javascript seems to make
> it wheeze.
>
> I thought any virus or trojan wouldn't be able to deal with a DA G4 as
> they are elderly and nearly extinct. I never considered there would be any
> viable threat to a machine like this.
>
> I used to run Norton Antivirus a long time ago, I think it was on my
> SuperMac S900. I don't think I've ever run any antivirus on this G4. Is
> there antivirus available for for a PowerPC nowadays?
>
> Is this a real threat?
>
> Mark Murphy
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Re: ios7 growing pains

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They all have 'issues'. But Android is getting better. I just do not care
for the commercialization being pushy on anything. But it is the price of
fewer jobs and the rise of home schooled developers. Corporations get rich
while home based  'code farmers' sweat in the noon day sun.



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> > >Since my eMac 125 is relegated to iTunes 10 as the maximum, and since
> Apple
> > >has dictated iTunes 11 or >greater to be the only versions able to
> > >communicate with my newly installed ios7 on my phone, I am at a loss to
> > >figure how to get individual mp3s or play lists from my desktop to my
> > >phone.
> > >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Buy an Android phone. Seriously.
>
> I have to concur. I switched to Android with the Nexus One when iOS would
> no longer connect to iTunes 9. I've never looked back. Looking forward to
> the next Nexus (currently on a Galaxy Nexus).
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Re: ios7 growing pains

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Sad, Androids I have seen all have  miniSD slots. How about iPads? Any
miniSD slots there?
How the heck do you expand storage?


I guess that leaves the USB device option to transfer files .Or  upload to
cloud storage like Google Drive  for the transfer.


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> On 9/25/13 19:03:15, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 25, 2013, at 5:38 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
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> >> It is impolite to make assumptions here about the motives of others. An
> LEM tradition  has been to help people make their Macs work, not gauge
> wallets.
> >>
> >> I still think the miniSD transfer is viable.
> >>
> >
> > The iPhone doesn't store anything on the sd card; that holds the carrier
> stuff only.
> >
>
> Thats not even a SD card, its a SIM card for LTE.
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Re: ios7 growing pains

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It is impolite to make assumptions here about the motives of others. An LEM
tradition  has been to help people make their Macs work, not gauge wallets.

I still think the miniSD transfer is viable.


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> On 9/25/13 10:33 AM, Don Wakefield wrote:
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>> Since my eMac 125 is relegated to iTunes 10 as the maximum, and since
>> Apple has dictated iTunes 11 or greater to be the only versions able to
>> communicate with my newly installed  ios7 on my phone,  I am at a loss
>> to figure how to get individual mp3s or play lists from my desktop to my
>> phone.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>> Don Wakefield
>> DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!)
>> Ballwin, Missouri, USA
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>>
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> --You could always try a hack.
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Re: ios7 growing pains

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Use a miniSd adapter to put the  phone card  in your card reader. The old
sneakernet updated to mini SD cards No big deal.



On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ken Daggett  wrote:

>
> On 25 Sep  2013, at 08:33:38 AM PDT, Don Wakefield wrote:
>
>  Since my eMac 125 is relegated to iTunes 10 as the maximum, and since
>> Apple has dictated iTunes 11 or greater to be the only versions able to
>> communicate with my newly installed  ios7 on my phone,  I am at a loss to
>> figure how to get individual mp3s or play lists from my desktop to my phone.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
> ---
> Will the phone connect to the eMac as a "mass storage device?"
>
> Maybe mail the .mp3s to yourself and grab them with the phone?
>
> Time to invent a kludge to force things to work!
>
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Re: my arms

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LIST NANNY !


On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Rick Williams wrote:

> my arms are just two things in the way without you to hold in them!
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Re: is there still a G3-5 list?

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We can overcome the paranoia if we just try.

>From the wordpress page  for "G-group.
http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:

> The last g3-5-list I have came through on June 10th. Weren't these things
> supposed to move to wordpress?
>
> On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:01 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Bruce,  I went to Google Groups and can't find the G3-5 list.
>
> I sent this post to "g3-5-list group " :
>
>
>  administrator, but a teenage girl has an account. She has the only Mac
> computer in the house. There is a Windows computer and a couple iPads and
> iPods sharing the network.
>
> The iMac turns itself on. That did NOT happen at my house! How can I
> figure out how this is happening and if someone has hacked into it?
>
> Jane>
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> But I can't find where the post landed! have you seen it?
>
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Re: New Forums

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Don't let the door hit you in the *ss !


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Frank Dutra  wrote:

> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:
>>
>>  signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day & mainly saw ads.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?
>>
>> Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums.
>>
>>
>
>
> Looks like the fateful day is fast approaching,,, I'll be hanging around
> at:
>
> 
> >
>
> if anyone wants to know how to convert a PC ATX power supply for a Mystic,
> or other such arcane oddities. Hope to see some of my old friends dropping
> by from time to time.
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> Best to All, and thanks for all the fish,,,
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Re: New Forums

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"Free mailing lists " ?  For who ? Server administration costs money.

" Soap Opera " what an unkind phrase to describe fund raising to keep
something that has done so much good afloat.

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Re: New Forums

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? ? ? ? ? ?

Went on LEM G list just now.

Ads are optional I see the same messages I see right now in my Google mail
page.
In fact if I open my mail and the list page in separate tabs I can read
them like in a mirror.
I don't understand what is being said here.

So there are more lists and Dan is getting money from ad placement to run
the lists GOOD  I hope he gets the support he needs to keep LEM going. I
recall when the list came together  for a fund drive to keep it going.

LEM has never been a democracy so rules have pretty much worked to keep the
lists on point. So substantial help has flowed here . Good job Dan Knight
and LEM !




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> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:
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>>>
>>
>> Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?
>>
>> Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums.
>>
>
>
> Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved
> most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are
> my trusted, respected friends that I would greet enthusiastically if ever
> to meet offlist.
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> WIll stay with lists for as long as possible and will only visit forums if
> help is needed.
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Re: New Forums

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Are you still getting your group's mail ?




On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

> > Are these Wordpress forums email lists, or accessible only via web
> > browser?
> >
> > I have to say that I am unlikely to go to a web only forum very often,
> > I like the old school mailing list way of doing things.
>
> I have to say I agree. Mailing lists are convenient in a variety of ways
> that web fora are not.
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Re: US Java alert?

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The DoD is telling people to turn off the Java plug in. While governments
websites have forms that depend on it to be active.CNet says Oracle may not
have a total fix for years.
Turn off the Java Plug in and experiment. You tell me if it is a Java
script or Java or any other distinction you want to make.
I turned off the Java Plug in weeks ago and found online transactions I
could not do. And this is after installation of a Java script  blocker
months before that which allowed the same forms to be active.


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> > >
> http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html
> >
> > Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you
> > which will require Java be turned on.
>
> ITYM Java*Script*, which has very little to do actually with Java, and
> assuming you are using one of the still-maintained PowerPC browsers is
> much more up-to-date.
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Re: US Java alert?

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Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you
which will require Java be turned on.
That's a fact.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Dan  wrote:
>
> > At 3:12 PM -0500 01/12/2013, Dan wrote:
> >> At 9:23 AM -0800 01/12/2013, Réjean Leroux wrote, on Tigerlist:
> >>> Anyone knows more about this Java alert issued by US Gov (alert that
> include Flash as well)!
> >>
> >> SSDD.  Yet-another zero day vulnerability, yadda yadda yadda *yawn*
> >
> > And today's chapter:
> >
> >
> http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html
>
>
> Here's the thing: anyone who can run a vulnerable version of Java on their
> Mac and has installed Apple's security updates has already done this. <
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572> 
> The last Java update Apple released went through and purged Java from the
> browser plugins. (As I found out, unpleasantly, when I tried to use a
> network-based KVM we purchased. Yet another 'Universal' devioce that is
> truly universal, it runs under Windows on Dells, on HP's, on Lenovo's…)
>
> (Apple's relesed these updates for 10.6, 7 and 8. 10.5 and lower is
> officially deprecated, and doesn't run the latest versions of Java. PPC
> machines CAN'T run the latest versions of java. I'm mildly surprised that
> they released the fix for 10.6.)
>
> Anyone else either deliberately went out of their way to re-enable Java or
> is not running a version that's vulnerable.
>
> Almost all of these new security issues with Java are the result of
> Oracles new code in the latest version.
>
> (and the appeal to 'Open Source' java just won't happen. As I've said
> before the entire impetus for Oracle to buy Sun was to acquire Java, which
> is Oracle's lifeblood, since so much of their database stuff is now written
> in Java.)
>
> Everything else (like hardware, VirtualBox, etc) was gravy for them, and
> Oracle is no more going to open source Java than they would Oracle
> Enterprise Database.
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Re: OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4

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Run Firefox use "Ghostery" plug in.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 4:46 PM -0800 01/28/2013, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>
>> I try to read the news the attached pix shows that an UNRESPONSIVE SCRIPT
>> keeps showing up
>>
>
> So the problem is not a redirect, per your OP.  The problem is a
> script getting stuck.
>
>
>  PLEASE it is on all browsers. A yahoo problem.
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/**nigerian-stole-145m-pays-fine-**
>> avoid-prison-172240245.html
>>
>
> This url works just fine for me, in both Safari and Firefox.  The main
> portion of the page loads immediately.  A few seconds later, the social
> media and other scripts finish and show their icons and such. You can read
> the page.  And then about a minute or so later the garbage comments, all
> 319, show up.
>
> Bottom line:  When a script returns an error, do some thinking. Recall
> that 99% of the javascripts on these web pages are for craplets.  They have
> nothing to do with the content you want.  So just hit the STOP button.  Or
> better yet --- turn off JavaScript in the first place, then visit the page.
>  You'll be amazed at how fast the web can be when you skip the craplets!
>
>
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Re: Video flicker

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A Viewsonic here has problems with an external power supply. It works well
when a replacement is plugged in.



On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:14 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio
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> If you have no toher cables to try get  rubbing alcohol or contact
> cleaner, an old tooth brush with power disconnected  scrub  the cable ends
> and all ports,  briskly and completely.  Look for loose or broken pins. Bad
> cable insulation etc.
>
> The starting point for  repair should always be the obvious elements. And
> this gets them out of the way if it is something more complex causing the
> failure. I have  had many great monitors that people thought were  totally
> wasted  brought to life with a simple cleaning.
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, JohnV  wrote:
>
>> OK, this will take some  wrangling... a day or two to get at it.
>>
>> Swap the port connections at the back of the G5
>> observe, then
>> Swap the cables where they go into each monitor
>> observe
>>
>> will do
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:
>>
>>  Il giorno 19/01/13 20:34, Kris Tilford ha scritto:
>>>
>>>  Switch the monitors to each other's video port and see if the bands
>>>> stay with the same monitor or stay with the same video port.
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Video flicker

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If you have no toher cables to try get  rubbing alcohol or contact cleaner,
an old tooth brush with power disconnected  scrub  the cable ends and all
ports,  briskly and completely.  Look for loose or broken pins. Bad cable
insulation etc.

The starting point for  repair should always be the obvious elements. And
this gets them out of the way if it is something more complex causing the
failure. I have  had many great monitors that people thought were  totally
wasted  brought to life with a simple cleaning.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, JohnV  wrote:

> OK, this will take some  wrangling... a day or two to get at it.
>
> Swap the port connections at the back of the G5
> observe, then
> Swap the cables where they go into each monitor
> observe
>
> will do
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:
>
>  Il giorno 19/01/13 20:34, Kris Tilford ha scritto:
>>
>>  Switch the monitors to each other's video port and see if the bands
>>> stay with the same monitor or stay with the same video port.
>>>
>>
>> ... and switch the video cables too, to test them as well.
>>
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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

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Try Trishes Hardware Hell?


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, DLC  wrote:

> Greetings all,
> I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane.
> I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320
> drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to
> SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card
> from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a
> situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower.
> Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in
> is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go
> as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver
> running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3).
> Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would
> sell adapters would be great as well.
> Many thanks for any thoughts,
> Regards,
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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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For me CS6 apps are harder to pick up. Have let up on studies at CS3 5
years ago. and gennerally being away from Adobe.

Lynda.com will teach you anything about Adobe and 1000 ( more than 1000
actually) PC and Mac apps for $25 bucks a month and is worth fifty times
that much just for the Adobe.

Creative Cow forums and countless web tutorials that are free would  help
if you could not afford Lynda.
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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) <
janespra...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
>> What other of these Apps would be good to download? What is Acrobat Pro 8?
>>
>> Jane
>>
>> All of the  apps  have uses for media and web work. Acrobat 8 will
> construct online and print style books, manuals and other  publications in
> what is now accepted as an industry standard .pdf format.  Other  apps will
> do that but not as easily nor necessarily fully 100% kosher as .pdf.
>

Photoshop would be an obvious choice for anyone. It may seem scary but is
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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Another way corporatism divides society. As though FB and Google are not
doing enough to separate
the patricians  from the plebs.



On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On Nov 23, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>
>  our time is better spent looking for Flash-free alternatives
>>
>
> True that.
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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Apple Employees went off and  built Killer Apps for Macs.

One might even say Adobe Apps sold more Macs than any WORD for Mac ever
could

Steve never forgave them.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-09/tech/tech_mobile_flash-steve-jobs_1_html5-battery-hog-photoshop?_s=PM:TECH

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/14/adobe/

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>
> On Nov 22, 2012, at 2:32 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> > Say what you will I believe some others here agree. It does not take
> that much to play flash files. Why does it have to be such a struggle?
> >
> > Why bring Adobe into it ?
>
>
> Gee, I don't know why I dragged Adobe into it...
>
> "Adobe Flash Player   11.4 r402 Copyright (c) 1996 Adobe Systems
> Incorporated. All rights reserved"
>
> Look, it's Adobe's decision not to support PPC and older OS'es, not Apple.
>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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Apple slags itself  every time it makes decisions  that effect users of
expensive and powerful machines that are not really that old.

Say what you will I believe some others here agree. It does not take that
much to play flash files. Why does it have to be such a struggle?

Why bring Adobe into it ? What next, question ever other web accepted file
protocol Apple does not wish to support for old machines. That will be a
growing list daily don't you think ? A strange attitude for  anyone who
supported Motorola machines for so far back. Keeping old Macs as viable as
possible is what this list is all about.

Since when is telling it like it is verboten here ? Apple supports Windows
users and caters to their needs better than their own customers of long
standing. Some will agree. Other not agree. Simple.

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>
> On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:51 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> > Emulate Windows !
> >
> > Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters
> to the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.
>
> Wow, I must have missed it when Apple bought Adobe.
>
> This is the most absurd stretch to slag Apple I've seen in a long, long
> time.
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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Windows will run flash just fine.


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:51 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio
wrote:

> Emulate Windows !
>
> Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters to
> the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.
>
> Brilliant marketing ploy !
>
> If you ain't got the dough Apple does not want you using their machines.
> Even the ones you bought and paid for.
> the best is only for those who can ante up.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:
>
>> **
>> On 11/21/12, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>>
>> Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly <
>> billycarmac...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
>> version's Get Info is 11.1
>>
>>
>> The "hack floating around the Net that tricks your Flash 10 plugin into
>> reporting it is Flash 11." I'm using it on my MDDs w/ 10.5.8.
>>
>>  Read about it here:
>>   <http://lowendmac.com/ed/royal/12sr/flash-11-and-powerpc.html>
>>
>> Down load it here:
>>   <http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip>
>>
>> **
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>>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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Emulate Windows !

Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters to
the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.

Brilliant marketing ploy !

If you ain't got the dough Apple does not want you using their machines.
Even the ones you bought and paid for.
the best is only for those who can ante up.



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:

> **
> On 11/21/12, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly <
> billycarmac...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
> version's Get Info is 11.1
>
>
> The "hack floating around the Net that tricks your Flash 10 plugin into
> reporting it is Flash 11." I'm using it on my MDDs w/ 10.5.8.
>
>  Read about it here:
>   <http://lowendmac.com/ed/royal/12sr/flash-11-and-powerpc.html>
>
> Down load it here:
>   <http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip>
>
> **
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly
wrote:

> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
> version's Get Info is 11.1
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Re: Old Software Packaging

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Amen brothers and sisters. I have old packaging  from 3 platforms. I hate
to see it  as waste but it is in the way. A real albatross of vintage
history.



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Brian Fuelleman wrote:

> In a way, yes there is a market for it.  If you are selling the software
> you will tend to get more for it if you have all of the original packaging,
> books, etc.  For the packaging alone?  Shy of finding either a collector or
> someone who has the software but not the packaging who want or need the
> complete setup, I don't see a market, but rather than throw the stuff out,
> I'd put it up on ebay or something of that nature where you have a huge
> buying audience.
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> *Subject:* Old Software Packaging
>
> Is there any market in old software packaging?
> I know there's a lot of collectible stuff out there but - RayDream 3D
> boxes?
> I'm anal enough to want to keep the software, I'm just wondering about the
> packaging.
>
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Re: Selling software?

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10 years ago I bought a lot of software and associated hardware on LEM Swap
list.  I always made sure I got the original codes. I believe non had been
registered before, which was common in those days before all software
demanded a call home..

Sometimes I would buy an unregistered seat license. Also common  then.
It was policy then that SW that had been registered could be abandoned by
the registrant by a letter or email to the publisher. And transferred to
another user.\






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> Is it legal to sell software that you have purchased from Apple, for
> instance?
> Thanks
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Re: Music stream capture app?

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Nice analogy. However  you do not need to know much to use Audacity. I was
introduced to it in University where they try to get software for basic
student use that  is common to a class yet does not bear even more
financial burden. Many students struggle to buy books  and other gear.

Audacity was used in all of our  NLE and webmedia courses  as a tool for
audio capture mostly but some introductory process work as well. It has
just gotten better over the years. In it's way Audacity is far better than
the image processor GIMP which suffers a much worse interface, and much
more inaccurate and misleading instructions and tutorials.

Powerful, yes. Usable? Absolutely.

And a CNC machine that easy to get started on would invite further
experimentation for sure. It might even be a source for a world of fun.





On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Tom wrote:
>
> >
> > Another thing I found: if you hit Stop, and the capture stops, and then
> you hit Record again, it starts recording back at the beginning again,
> recording right over what you've already got, so you don't want to do that.
> (Maybe I should choose a second capture window?)
>
> You need to save what you've captured , open a new capture file, or do
> like the popup tool tip tells you, 'hold down shift to append recording'.
>
> Part of the issue here is that Audacity is an extremely powerful, mature,
> pro-level audio processing tool that happens to be open source.
>
> It's kind of like buying a $30k CNC mill, attaching a sanding drum to it,
> and using it to sharpen your pencils.
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Re: Music stream capture app?

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Free opensource Audacity may meet your need.


On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM, JoeTaxpayer  wrote:

> Audio Hijack allows for advanced settings. For example, to capture a
> scheduled show. There are still a few radio shows that are not archived, so
> setting AH to record a weekly saturday night show was a great option. It
> also has silence detection, so if you let it run with Pandora most songs
> will be separate sound files.
>
> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:26:43 AM UTC-4, Gary D. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:28:30 AM UTC+2, Kris Tilford wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure there are more.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, for example Pezio at  for $10.
>> Supposedly simple and easy to use. I have Audio Hijack Pro - not so easy to
>> use.
>>
>> Gary
>>
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Re: DVD won't eject

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Well if it does not run and there is no release mech. I suppose you take it
apart.

Imagine that, they made them so cheap they even left off the tiny hole ! :
D !



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> At 8:15 AM -0400 7/13/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> For the record, look for the tiny hole on the front. Use an unbent paper
>> clip to push the release arm inside.
>>
>
> and clean the drive.
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Re: DVD won't eject

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For the record, look for the tiny hole on the front. Use an unbent paper
clip to push the release arm inside.





On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Gary D.  wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:40:16 PM UTC+2, Tina Holm wrote:
>>
>>
>> turn it upside down and press the eject button - maybe shake it gently
>> too
>>
>> that's what worked on my powerbook recently - after trying all other
>> methods and suggestions I could find and think of
>>
>> Thanks Tina, I managed to solve the problem myself. The solution: left it
> alone overnight. It spit out the DVD normally this morning and I moved to
> another computer and saved the day. (Maybe it was insalted about something
> and wouldn't give me my DVD back - computers are capable of such things,
> you know.)
>
> Thanks again,
>
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Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

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Eight years ago this conversation might have been thought impossible. Many
Macheads would have been flabbergasted at the thought of an Intel Mac or an
OS that would leave them so far behind.

5 years ago there was outrage over the hackintosh movement and letting Mac
OS run on PC hardware/

Now a lot more folks are facing the economic realities of technoconsumer
status drop.







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> > > It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production
> > > since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with
> Leopard).
> >
> > It also does not work with G5's.
>
> VPC 7 does (I have it on this quad). It runs XP acceptably, but is better
> in
> Win2K and Win98. I think that's pretty telling right there.
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Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (B&W) - lowest MacOS version that it can run (without emulation)

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That can " run it " having the CPU codes for the G3. I wasn't even thinking
along those lines. It has been so long since I had to worry about an OS not
going on a machine.

I guess the OPs dreams of "simplify" are dashed.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, glen  wrote:

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> >Subject: Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (B&W) - lowest MacOS version that it
> can run (without emulation)
> >
> >
> >> Additionally, what is the oldest OS that I can install on a PowerMac G3
> >> (B&W)? I'm really looking to downgrade as far as possible.
> >
> >The earliest Yosemite will boot 8.5, but I wouldn't do anything earlier
> >than 8.6 on those models.
> >
>
>
> Not to  nick pick, but I pretty sure the earliest system is 8.5.1. I
> remember when I got my first B&W I was frustrated when it would not boot
> 8.5. However, no problem with 8.6 as you suggest. --glen
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Re: PowerMac G4

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To keep the entire structure strong and to quiet gremlins in the mind
gnawing on the fact, yes.

As far as  "the runnun' of it" If it is running now what is the problem?
Oh, there may be your random 0;0001 % lessening of HD bearing life But
prove it (?)

My 9600 has been stuffed with drives for 8 years not all of which are
locked down. Same with some of my 7x00s

They all still run.

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> I have a G4 Mystic and it is missing a screw on the side. It looks like it
> is holds on the motherboard tray. Is it needed?
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Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (B&W) - lowest MacOS version that it can run (without emulation)

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I can't conceive of running a G3 on any Mac OS before 8.6 (USB support)
And actually OS 9.0/9.1 can be tuned to really fly.

So why go even further back?

I say this because I had a lot of stability issues with the 7s.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM, doodsonj  wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> I couldn't work out the best place to put this message, but thought here
> was most apt.
>
> I have an iMac G3 (Indigo) lying about - I was wondering what the earliest
> MacOS that I could install on that G3? I'd prefer going back to System 6 or
> Mac OS 7 (7.5.3 is available for download) rather than OS8 or OS9.
>
> Additionally, what is the oldest OS that I can install on a PowerMac G3
> (B&W)? I'm really looking to downgrade as far as possible.
>
> Take care.
>
> James.
>
> P.S. I upped the RAM to the max then installed OS X 10.4 on the G3 after a
> bit of tinkering - but it ran quite slowly (obvs!). I'm looking to go the
> other way now and turn it into a no-frills attached word processor for
> writing up some on my PhD work (no distractions like that new-fangled
> Internet invention!).
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Re: symbols for option, control, etcc....

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Reply posted at bottom .

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:58 PM,  wrote:

> What are the symbols for Option, Control, shift, etc?
>
> I see shortcuts all the time. but I don't know what those symbols mean
> (other than Command).
>
> Also, what keys do you press to type them?
>
> Jane
>

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Fow Mac OS questions. like any other OS you can do an easy Google or other
search engine search

A 30 second  try found this page.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343

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Re: iMate battery life?

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I think some of my older digital cameras and camcorders use the CR1225.

A lot of toys use them too I am sure..

And remote controls for door lifts,and lighting controls







On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Koralatov  wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:30, James Fraser wrote:
>
>  Well, somehow, I was given the impression that people who are into
>> vintage Macs are also heavy iMate users, seeing as how the iMate allows
>> them to port the old school ADB keyboards they know and love (and that
>> last forever) to newer machines, hence my posting on Vintage Macs.
>>
>> Perhaps the G-List would be a better bet? [scratches head]
>>
>
> It might be, come to think of it; they’re using machines with USB on them,
> and no ADB, so are probably more likely to be using them.  I’ve CCed that
> list as well (hello, G-List!), so hopefully *someone* there has an answer
> for you.
>
>  That's a pretty good price for iMates (which originally had an MSRP of
>> $39.95, IIRC).  However, I'm all set when it comes to iMates themselves,
>> having several units in storage.  What I lack, instead, are the
>> batteries necessary to keep them going.
>>
>
> They’re much rarer, and thus much more expensive, over here in the UK, so
> I was pretty pleased to get them so cheap.  Having spares is less
> desirable than having spare parts to keep them going.
>
>  Normally, how long an imate battery lasts or doesn't last isn't all that
>> important except that, currently, I'm in the process of trying to set
>> someone up with an old school keyboard that will keep pace with their
>> old school typing pace.  They learned their keyboarding on manual
>> typewriters you pretty much had to be an olympic hammer throw champion
>> to operate and, as a result, they absolutely fly on modern computer
>> keyboards that require little in the way of finger strength to operate.
>>
>
> One of my dad’s friends, a woman much older than he, was a trained typist,
> and used an IBM Model M until the day she died: I remember her telling me
> that it was the only “real” keyboard she’d ever come across, and the only
> one that felt anything like the typewriters she’d used in her working
> life.  She was old enough to probably have used manuals, rather than only
> having used electrics.  The speed she could get up to was quite
> terrifying, and put me (~65 years her junior) to shame.
>  I know first-hand the force you need to use an old-style typewriter.
> I occasionally use one to write letters to family, or when I’m writing
> letters of complaint.  My hands hurt after the first few paragraphs.
>
>  I like this person, so I'm trying not only to set them up with the
>> keyboard and iMate they need, but also with a supply of batteries to
>> keep the iMate going for a long while.
>>  That recently-arisen need is in concurrence with my spotting "a deal" on
>> the CR1225 button cells.  Unfortunately, if there's another product that
>> the CR1225 is used in, I couldn't tell you what it is (certain models of
>> calculators maybe?).  Meaning that I'm trying to work out how many
>> CR1225s to purchase for both me and my friend that will keep us in
>> batteries for some time -without- ending up sitting on a pile of them
>> that will go unused.  : /
>>
>
> I just checked Amazon UK, and you can get name-brand CR1225s for about £2
> (~$3) apiece, so I wouldn’t worry about getting a supply of them.  As for
> *what* they’re used for, I’m as stumped as you — I’ve never come across
> them beforer in my life.  I’ve never come across a calculator that uses
> them; my modern HP-12C uses CR2032s, and my vintage one uses LR44s.
>  The thing I worry about with stockpiling batteries is that they do
> expire/discharge with age.  I’ve found old batteries in the loft of my
> parent’s house that were completely useless, even though they were still
> sealed in their package and stored inside a dark box.
>
>  It's too bad the Griffin folks didn't settle on the CR2032 instead, as
>> that's also what Apple used as the backup battery in the early model
>> (original and MP1x0) MessagePads and there are a -ton- of those lying
>> around here.  Always the way, eh?
>>
>
> Absolutely!  They probably got a deal on a huge batch of them or
> something, and then some wise bean-counter decided to save ½¢ per unit by
> using those instead of the more common CR2032s.
>
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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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What if it is something between the mobo and burner? A bad cable for
example ? A bad solder joint on a port ?

Could you borrow another burner and try ? Or another cable?





On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Dan wrote:
>
>  But when the verify fails...  I had two pass verification with FileMerge
>> and one fail.
>>
>
> Sure wish all three passed so I could start ignoring the "verify fails"
> messages even though a sample set of three is nearly meaningless.
>
> I've probably got 50 'verify fail' discs that I burned again. I hate to
> mention this, but with Mac OS Install Discs, I've had the reverse problem
> also. I've had discs burn perfectly and verify perfectly, and then be
> useless or problematic for booting and/or installation. I have installed
> and used seemingly perfect OS X from discs that failed verification, so...
>
> Disc 'verify' is a muddy mess of conflicting results.
>
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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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Have you tried slower write speeds?

Other brand disks?

Is the optical lens clean and free of hairballs? I have had that problem
with old drives.

Also old dry grease on the gear track can gum the write process.

Have you tried a logging utility to get a better error record?

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Dan  wrote:

> At 11:45 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> Could drive access speed be an issue?
>>
>
> The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D
>
> The HDs are all 7200rpm, etc.
>
> If there was an access speed issue, wouldn't that manifest regardless of
> the amount of free memory in the system?
>
> Just trying to cover all bases.
>

If this was OS 9 I would allocate more RAM to the program. Might you
consider running classic and using an appropriate application after setting
more RAM in the "Get Info" panel?

Do smaller files burn OK with the same set up ?

All cables and ports clean?





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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 10:26 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> Do you need more free space on the hard disk? The lack of scratch space
>> was often a problem with Toast on old PPCs with small drives.
>>
>
> It doesn't seem to be a HD free space issue.  Typically, I've got between
> 15 and 40 GB free on the boot volume and aro 25 GB free on the normal
> source drive (also an internal).  When I burn off an external/usb drive, I
> have the same issues, and about 120 GB free there.
>
>
> Could drive access speed be an issue?


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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Do you need more free space on the hard disk? The lack of scratch space was
often a problem with Toast on old PPCs with small drives.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 3:37 PM -0500 4/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
>> I've also wondered if these "fail to verify" are true?
>>
>
> hum.  Got me wondering that now, too.  Ok, I'm going to check and see.
>
>
> - Dan.
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Re: Oil Cooling

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Don't go for the bubbles though it will reduce heat transfer. Or is that
important?  Or is it really about having a showy conversation piece?

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Re: Oil Cooling

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Big Mac and fries?


Hell why not dry ice or a mini fridge? This must be one Monster Mac
crunching HD frames from space probe cams or calculating world financial
markets or something. Hot,hot hot !


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Valter Prahlad <
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:
>
> > I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting
> the
> > computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.
> This sounds weird. :-ospace
> Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?
>
> Would it smell like fries? ;-D
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Re: HD problem on my PowerMac G3

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Are the USB drivers installed. ?
( If a USB keyboard it being used )

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Valter Prahlad <
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> Il giorno 6-03-2012 5:48, Eleni ha scritto:
>
> > I tried to boot up
> > with original Mac OS 8.6 disk in DVD drive holding the 'C' key, and it
> would
> > go straight to the HD.  My guess is that the original disk is not a boot
> up
> > disk
> AFAIK, any Apple's MacOS disk is a bootable disk (OTOH, I noticed a copied
> MacOS disk might not be bootable anymore).
>
> Of course, not any MacOS disk can boot any Mac. But, in your case, 8.6
> should boot your PM G3.
> Is it an original Apple CD?
> Is the keyboard an ADB one, or an USB one? (if USB, is it connected
> directly
> to the USB port, or through an USB hub?).
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Re: new to the MAC universe.

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You can save PRAM settings. So in a sense you can access them.



On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Valter Prahlad
 wrote:
> Il giorno 2-02-2012 16:47, fickit1time ha scritto:
>
>> One more thing: the video card is a ati9000 pro which has both dvi and
>> adc ports. ADC is the primary and dvi is the 2nd port. since I don't
>> have an apple display I can't use the ADC.
>> I'm plugging my lcd to the 2nd port (is there some settings I need to
>> change in the bios to switch the primary to dvi?)
>
> AFAIK, the two ports work the same; i.e., the "primary" port has no benefit
> over the "secondary".
>
> Any time I connected a display into my Macs (G3, G4, G5), I didn't have to
> change any setting: the system recognized everything, included dual
> displays.
> You may want to set the resolution and color depth, of course.
>
> Mac have no Bios. :-)
> They have something similar (hardware parameters held in something called a
> "Parameter Ram" - PRam), but users usually cannot access them; only erasing
> them when having hardware troubles, or big configuration changes.
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Re: unexpected bonus...

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On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Bruce Johnson
wrote:

> Filed under : "Yah learn something new every day"
>
> If you ever find yourself in need of a inch or centimeter ruler, the CUPS
> test page from an OS X print queue (at least under 10.6) prints two of each
> along the sides of the test page, one long, one short. Especially handy if
> you need to temporarily attach one to, say, a temporary jig for a chop saw
> or drill press.
>
>
Bruce,

This is the kind of adaptation that advances our species !

And made me a fan of " Mechanics Illustrated's " Thom McCahill at the age
of ten!  : )





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Re: new to the MAC universe.

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In the old days Dan Knight would make sure no one called a Mac a MAC ! :)

Somewhere in the user rules I think he lays out why.


And dear god don't  miss spell MHz or GHz !

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Re: Apple provides backdoor?

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"not the device level."

Android users wish this were so for them.





On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
> > This article says Apple provides backdoors for governments to intercept
> data from iOS devices:
> >
> > <
> http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/01/08/069204/leaked-memo-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments
> >
>
> This article is dubious for a several reasons, not the least of which is
> that government snooping occurs at the carrier level, not the device level.
>
> Who needs a back door when you can tap the network?
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Re: going to an Intel iMac

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Fair enough. I was not aware 10.4 was similar enough in settings and prefs
files In Leaopard to be that easily transferable. Or that the list of apps
with such would also share such.




On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Bruce Johnson
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>
> On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> > Why not just use a file manager utility to move your wanted files?
> > The simple old fashioned way to batch process ?
>
> Because tools like Migration Assistant take care of all the niggling
> little issues of moving account information over and find EVERYTHING, doing
> repetitive, mindless tasks like a gorram computer SHOULD, freeing up the
> human mind for tasks better suited to our unique processing power :-)
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Re: going to an Intel iMac

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Why not just use a file manager utility to move your wanted files?
The simple old fashioned way to batch process ?

People do not have to be locked into the new-fangled software method
mindset do they ? Come on.







On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

> Dear Listers,
>
> I am currently using a Dual Processor DA G4.  This Mac runs Tiger (10.4.11)
>
> I recently acquired an early model Intel iMac that has Snow Leopard
> installed.
>
> My question is:  Can I use CarbonCopyCloner to transfer the contents of my
> G4 over to the Intel?  I realize that there are different operating systems
> on each Mac, and that the Intel would inherit the G4's Tiger, but I have
> the Snow Leopard DVDs and plan on a reinstall of Snow Leopard to the Intel
> iMac after the clone is complete.
>
> Will this work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
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Re: Dictionary

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On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:34 PM,  wrote:

> Where do I find the Mac OS X dictionary? I want to add it as an additional
> dictionary in MS Word.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rick
>
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Why on Earth would you have to add it to Word?
http://lifehacker.com/199108/how-to-use-apple-os-xs-built+in-dictionary
http://lifehacker.com/199108/how-to-use-apple-os-xs-built+in-dictionary


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Re: hello

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

I suggest the OP be banned if that is the case.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Barry Levine
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> Rather, this looks like malware commandeering a mailing list.
> >
> >> I have Order china 6 Products Apple MacBook Pro MB990LL/A 13.3
> >> this website: bodysa.com 
> >> I've received the item today
> >> I believe you will find what you want there and have an good experience
> >> on shopping from them.
> >> Regards!
> >>
>
> > So now the Glist becomrs a shill to sell bogus Chinese macs ?
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Re: hello

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Ethan Kuefner wrote:

> Hello
> I have Order china 6 Products Apple MacBook Pro MB990LL/A 13.3
> this website: bodysa.com
> I've received the item today
> I believe you will find what you want there and have an good experience
> on shopping from them.
> Regards!
>
>


So now the Glist becomrs a shill to sell bogus Chinese macs ?









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Re: So much data, so little organisation...

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Sure, if you want to totally ignore everything I said.

This may be a fine file " gallery" if all you want is to look and access.

I thought you are a media professional inundated by the need to simplify
and expedite mass file organization.








On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM, JohnV  wrote:

>
> On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:49 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>  What you need is a good old fashioned program known in olden days called
>> a file manager. On my old Macs i swear by FileDeamon.
>> A two pane view of any two volumes on the system in a list view cuts
>> through the modern method confusion and gives a clear understanding of the
>> files and volumes you want to deal with.. And leaves everything else out of
>> the way.
>>
>
> COCOATECHS PATH FINDER?
>
> http://cocoatech.com/
>
>
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Re: So much data, so little organisation...

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What you need is a good old fashioned program known in olden days called a
file manager. On my old Macs i swear by FileDeamon.

A two pane view of any two volumes on the system in a list view cuts
through the modern method confusion and gives a clear understanding of the
files and volumes you want to deal with.. And leaves everything else out of
the way.

Forget trees and window drag and drop. to move or delete or compare
volumes, and see, hear or read files , renaming archiving etc, whether one
or a thousand use a file manager. In the Amiga days these were common. and
for power users they are still popular.

Masses of files and multiple volumes? I would not think about tackling them
any other way.

And to reiterate facts i made clear on the PCI Macs list long ago;

No, finder is not a good file manager for bulk file handling.

No, file managers that insist on tree views are not good file managers they
interfere with work flow.

Two pane managers are best. they cut  through the BS.

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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Your ideosyncratic disregard has nothing to do with LEM. To join you agreed
to follow the rules.
Whio need rules, evidently people who joined without reding the rules need
them

This is a monmitored list and not the usual PC BS free for all on the rest
of the web.

Unless all of LEM has been abandoned all of those posting OT will be banned.

NANNY !

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Geke  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Who needs LEM rules? I think everyone on this list has enough common
> sense to know this is a list concerned with computers, not human
> feelings.
> If anyone feels insulted, he/she should first think if it was really
> intentional at all, and if he/she thinks it was, respond to the
> poster, not the list, and explain his/her feelings.
> Undoubtedly, the OP will apologize, or at least explain what was
> really meant, and all is well again.
>
> Both senders and recipients should realize that in this internet age,
> it's much easier to say something one doesn't really mean. If we had
> to write it on paper and mail it, there would be a longer cooling-down
> and thinking-over time built in, and many rash hard words would simply
> not get sent at all. Also, because we often hardly know eachother,
> misunderstandings are very likely. In fact, it's a miracle that we
> usually get along so well.
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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

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Do LEM rules count for anything any more?

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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

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As much as i  appreciate the rich political debate-

None of this has any business on LEM.

Nanny !

Or has LEM just been abandoned to the chaos ?











On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Valter Prahlad <
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> Il giorno 23-11-2011 20:41, John Callahan ha scritto:
>
> > In the original post the poster referred to the United States as a
> > "Socialist" country! I take high offense at that extreme denunciation
> > as I am a veteran of WWII and associate "Socialist" with the NATIONAL
> > SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, commonly known in English as the NAZI PARTY.
>
> John calm down. :-)
> - First, the OP line was - I think - ironical, not literal.
>
> - Second, you're misinterpretating.
> I just happened to read a comment on the Net, about Nazism and Socialism,
> and I think it explain the matter quite well:
>
> "Nazism and Socialism, while both authoritarian in nature, are vastly
> different ideologies.
> Even though the Nazi movement was first labeled the National Socialist
> movement in Germany, it was a gross misuse of the term ³Socialism² in the
> sense that we know it today. Nazism is in truth grounded in Fascist ideals
> of corporatism with some xenophobic aspects tossed in for good measure, and
> was in direct opposition to the Communist movement in Europe in the 20s and
> 30s. Socialism on the other hand is meant as a stepping stone to true
> Communism.
> While not a Socialist myself, I will admit that the end to which the
> Socialist philosophy aspires is much more good-natured than the end to
> which
> Nazism aspires. "
>
> We better distinguish the labels from the facts. ;-)
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Nanny attention ! Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

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Any list managers ( I like the LEM traditional Nanny myself) can we get a
stop on this commentary and non comment commentary.

has everyone forgotten the user terms and the rules?

Take the politics to Facebook or somewhere. Please.


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