Re: Please unsubscribe
Dear Len, sorrily i want to follow Jim. But I did not found the link - or it just did not work. I received 50 or more messages a day, only one or two were interesting, too much chatting. If you can, please set me free. Lars On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Jim Snyder wrote: Hello I set free my older Macs and have a new MacBook. Your Group has been great. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks! Please visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list and there is an option to Edit my Membership. That is where you will find an unsubscribe option. Len Gerstel List Nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I get support for Classic?
There are many things my G4 cannot do with 'Tiger', but a G3 does (SCSI card recognition for example). Stupid G4. And as TV sets I need my Performas, running 7.5.5, 8.5.1, 8.6, 9 or 9.1. The update to 9.2 will not work on a system with an upgrade card, this requires an iMac or an other PPC 750 processor, or better. But thanks for that link ! Lars You can get the 9.1, 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 updates for free from the Apple website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I get support for Classic?
Thank you for these informations. I will visit the '9forever' to learn more about it. Is it really working faster than 9.1 ? Well, that is slower than 8.6; that's my impression (5400/G3 300MHz). The Tiger the G3 is running (at 350MHz) is a minimal system (only DVD - but too slow for full screen presentation), the 10.4.11 has a lot of extensions, kernels, and all the other stuff which did not exist at the times before Unix. The problems really could result from the cards, but I do not find the time to try the SCSI out in the G4/733 - never change a running system. Lars On Sep 20, 2009, at 10:00 AM, WhyOSX wrote: There are many things my G4 cannot do with 'Tiger', but a G3 does (SCSI card recognition for example). Stupid G4. I know some specific models of SCSI cards don't work well in Tiger, but there are plenty of SCSI cards that do work in Tiger that are really cheap or even free. Many PC (non-Apple ROM) SCSI cards work in OS X but simply aren't bootable (unless you use XPostFacto's Helper Disk boot, and then they are bootable). Using PC ROM SCSI cards in OS X is something that OS 9 computers never could do. If you need a Tiger compatible SCSI card, I may have some you could have for cost of shipping. SCSI is dead for the most part, having a working card is only half the battle, you'd also need working software for the peripheral, and that's normally the catch. And as TV sets I need my Performas, running 7.5.5, 8.5.1, 8.6, 9 or 9.1. The update to 9.2 will not work on a system with an upgrade card, this requires an iMac or an other PPC 750 processor, or better. No. You can use OS 9 Helper from the website below to install 9.2.2 onto most all older Macs. The support for these upgrade cards comes through system extension files, and if you place the older system extension into a 9.2.2 System Extensions folder they will work fine in 9.2.2. The problem with the video cards is that sometimes more extensions are required to be changed out than just the one driver extensions. These extra extensions would normally be video extensions for video cards, or sound extensions for sound, and have names like ATI Resource Manager or Graphics Accelerator. Once you get the correct combination of older extensions, all these older upgrade cards should work fine in 9.2.2. http://www.os9forever.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB PCI card
With the 5400/180s AND the 5500s ANY of the 4-slot-USB-cards I tried out caused troubles. On the other hand, any of the 2-slot works fine (about 10 $ U.S.). You can add a hub then - makes sense anyway, because the slots are on the back. These computers are limited to USB 1.1, AFAIK. Lars in Germany On 17-09-2009 01:14, Lawrence David Eden, lde...@comcast.net, wrote: Actually, I meant to say 5500/250 These have a PCI-slot. So you can put in a PCI USB card. If it's a OHCI card it will work. I did it, years ago, with a black Perf. 5400/180 to use flash drives and a cardreader. Worked very well under OS 9.1. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 3.0.4
I'm using 3.2.3 - have I written in something so stupid ? But indeed there is a G3/350 bw running 10.4.11 and 9.2.2. Date: Mon, Sep 14 2009 8:51 pm From: WhyOSX Safari 4 just won't work at all. so it doesn't do any damage. G4/733-1GB-10.4.11 9.2.2 So how come WhyOSX says he has it running fine on two of his computers running his powermacs with 10.4.11? -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 3.0.4
Safari 4 just won't work at all. so it doesn't do any damage. G4/733-1GB-10.4.11 9.2.2 Backup your system first, just like you would for ANY update from Apple. Always a good idea. Safari 4 uses the same file formats (bookmarks, etc) as Safari 3, so they're not converted or anything. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: installing Classic over Tiger
They are no 'Cannons' - the name is 'CANON' I'm going to retry this again tomorrow when I'm not so tired... I have a Cannon 1240U I bought this way back in 2001 and I also have a Cannon S820 printer too! I got all the OS 10 down loads off Cannon's website and the printer works just fine but the scanner still boots up classic I guess to run Photo Shop??? I'm wondering if I can find a down load for Photo Shop to run in OS 10 (at least for Jaguar on my clamshell) ??? I will check that out too tomorrow... CoolKat --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
There is one simple saying: Never change a running system... So, in the general experience of others, are the latest ITunes and QT updates recommended for Tiger on a G4 or not? Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
eBay ! On 9/9/09 8:48 PM, Dana Collins wrote: To our mutual dismay, the Old Mac Apps site no longer posts older versions of iTunes (Apple probably threatened suit). Anyone know where I can find older versions of iTunes? --~~~~--~~--~--~--- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which is a faster option?
A few days ago. there was an offer of a 1.8GHz card for a G4 as I have in use at this present moment, It went up to over € 250 (300 $US) - a G5 could be purchased for that (nearly). for the price of a faster dual processor upgrade card, you could buy a way way way faster dual g5. -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: installing Classic over Tiger
I think many computers run 'Tiger' and a classic 9.2.2 (my G4 and a G3 do), and I recommend installing the 'X' on a different drive than the 'Classic'. If you're using an iMac (a single drive system), there'll be problems. And there has been the advice (by Apple) firstly to install 9, update anything (as QT), and then install X. So partitioning IMO is a good idea for such a machine (Talking about a CRT iMac). Lars Is it possible to install Classic onto a Mac that is already running Tiger? I need this old iMac (front loading CD) to run a few older applications. When I try to use the OS 9.2.2 installation disk, I hit a dead end. The Mac wants an OS 9 System Folder to launch the installer Do I have to re-partition my hard drive in order to get Classic installed? (Forgive me if I have asked this question before, but I still don't know how to solve the problem...) Larry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which is a faster option?
Sorry for the typo enyway' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: I think their names are 'Cerebrum' and 'Cerebellum'. Or was it 'Laurel Hardy' ? But in NTSC color in 1985! I need a beer to stand this ! Here it is PAL, and now I'm sure about Tom Jerry. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
Always remember, the computer is the stupid, you're not. On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Naming files in a specific order using the filenames is a simple but working solution. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Hi Adrian ! Thanks for your trial to communicate in German, not too bad. Here I am: Bielefeld, Germany. It's 52'01'36.30 N to 8'34'01.81 E, to be precise. GoogleEarth will show you exactly the roof I'm under. We had a famous Chancellor who is told to have said: You can say You to me, Mr. President. Mr. Helmut Kohl. The only impressive things about him had been his physical appearance (1.93m, 130kg) and the luck of being at the right place the right time. The project of a German unification resulted from ideas of Mr. Gorbatshev. The German spelling of the transcription from Cyrillc is 'Gorbatschow', btw. Since there are many sorts and trade marks of beer in Germany (as I think the whole world knows). I drink a cheap red wine from France after midnight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Tiqv4Irjsfeature=PlayListp=AE2718C0853ADC8D No, I've never had a VC20 or C64; I started with a Sharp MZ80B (CP/M 2.2.2) and an LC was next - jumping over any DOS and early Win 8080s or ...86 series. Have fun with that YouTube link - they had fun on stage ! Lars I think their names are 'Cerebrum' and 'Cerebellum'. Or was it 'Laurel Hardy' ? But in NTSC color in 1985! I need a beer to stand this ! Here it is PAL, and now I'm sure about Tom Jerry. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Sind sie in Deutschland Oder Denmark? Hatten sie kiene Commodore Amiga dort? Was, Bier Dunkle oder licht? Prolst! Adrian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: OT iTunes - Sort by Burn info
There is a way to double the tracks, moving the copies in a new folder (preferably on the desktop). Then prefix them with numbers - starting with 01, not with a 1, the next track would be 11 then. Then move this folder to your burning program or let it open the contents. If the CD is meant to be runnning later on any CD player, choose AIFF format. Remember that these files are much bigger than mp3s or mp4s. 74 minutes or so is the maximum on a 700/800MB CD-R; recommended and sufficient, but in some cases sensous material. You don't need the playlist feature to do so. Lars Can I sort my iTunes library by times burnt ? I admit it - I don't know if I have burned everything in my iTunes library. As I recall, you can only burn a playlist a limited number of times, so it would seem there is some info in there about how many times a song has been burned or maybe that's just in the playlist info ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Now that I need it, I can't find it, not under B or S. Otherwise I would list them here, I'm sorry. Maybe it can be found on amazon or even YouTube - Lars You really have a hard disk in your head ? I recommend a hard head and a flexible thinking machine inside :-) I have the LP of the sound track, music by Joan Baez ! On vinyl, of course. Lars If I let the memory come into my head i will remember the songs. Something haunting and sweet and relevant too. yeah. It will take a while with a slow HD ( IN MY HEAD) but it will load into the front buffer from an ancient drawer in the Amiga Workbench of my brain. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Hallo ! Nun, wo liegt das Problem ? Millionen Menschen sprechen Deutsch. Hi ! Well, where's the problem ? Millions of people are speaking German. I don't think there is an easy way to transfer it; if you have plenty of time it could be done with ResEdit. Lars Hi all, Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Thanks for the link ! Very nice. Lars I remember him pouring over a manual, I think to program the bots to work on his leg. Didn't he also do something so they could act independently? I also seem to remember a computer that handled navigation and the engines that he used to head for Saturn. Nothing with a personality, though. There are card models of the three little guyshttp://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Esf-papercraft/Gallery/Silent/Silent.htmlava ilable online, as well as the stacking cargo containers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
If I'm not totally wrong it is Ländereinstellung - but I guess there is no ä on your keyboard. Lars from Germany Am Sep 5, 2009 um 9:57 PM schrieb Kris Tilford: On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:34 PM, DLC wrote: Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Hope this was a typo, it's now 10.5.8. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? System PreferencesInternationalLanguage tabEnglish In german it is the option Landes einstellung in System Preferences. Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
There had been children inside ! Noone could have built such a robot at the time ! Lars On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com wrote: I remember him pouring over a manual, I think to program the bots to work on his leg. Didn't he also do something so they could act independently? I also seem to remember a computer that handled navigation and the engines that he used to head for Saturn. Nothing with a personality, though. There are card models of the three little guyshttp://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Esf-papercraft/Gallery/Silent/Silent.htmlava ilable online, as well as the stacking cargo containers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ I am an avid card model builder . I saw these last year. Glad you reminded me of them as they would be a cool Fall weekend project.. Good for a robot theme halloween. Whoever ran the three little guys in the movie did better acting through remote control than some actors do in living flesh. And I say they influenced the creators of Wall-E. He knew a good archetype role when he thought it up. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
For sharing the files (sometimes it even prevents copying on the Mac) with PC users, don't forget to shorten the filenames to 32 letters INCLUDING the .mpg or .mp4. And I don't need 98% of the functions of 'MS Office '98', I guess this is why it got the name. Lars -- Original message -- Subject: Re: iTunes shuffle question Date:Freitag, 4. September 2009N From:Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:09 PM, WhyOSX wrote: Choose another player, name the titles correctly (starting with numbers is the easiest way) - that will work. If there are more than ten tracks, don't forget the leading 0 (Zero). Lars If your music player depends on filenames to be numbered in the correct order it's pretty primitive. Sometimes the simple (and primitive) things are better than the advanced and complex things. Just remember that Unix is based on simplicity. Before Unix everything was complex, but then Unix established simple concepts like everything is a file. There is a saying that can be used in daily life as well: Keep it simple and stupid (KISS). Naming files in a specific order using the filenames is a simple but working solution. If you use the files on a mobile device where they are not meant to be transferred yet to another storage or shared with friends -- that's a KISS solution, I'd say... Cheers, Andreas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Peace to everyone! You're right, English and German have common roots; English is a little less away from Latin as the mother of most of the European languages, and the grammar is the easiest of the three. Lars WhyOSX wrote: Hallo ! Nun, wo liegt das Problem ? Millionen Menschen sprechen Deutsch. Hi ! Well, where's the problem ? Millions of people are speaking German. I see no problem with this. Millions speak German every day and don't even know they do. English is just a German dialect. Peace, Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Try Little Richard or Keith Richards - they are not so heavy. And it doesn't take five hours till it's over :-) Lars Don't get me wrong - I love Deutsch! I regard myself as a closet Teutonic! ;-) The scary thing was i was listening to Wagner as it happened. Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera
IMO the GraphicConverter is one of the best apps ever (I use it since a version 1.7.6 appeared in ~1994). With 5.9.3 it got so many functions, it is nearly as useful as Photoshop. It is loaded much faster and: look at the pricing. A Version 6.something is also available for a few dollars. There are updates every few weeks. And it is better than iPhoto anyway (i hated iPhoto the first moment I used it). Use a simple card reader if you can't attach the camera directly. Maybe there is some dirt or corrosion in the cameras slots. Lars At 11:19 PM -0500 9/5/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital Cameras (both are the same model) Set the cameras to act like mountable hard drives (disk mode, some call it), then use an app such as GraphicConverter to grab things off it. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
I think their names are 'Cerebrum' and 'Cerebellum'. Or was it 'Laurel Hardy' ? Lars On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:57 AM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: Now that I need it, I can't find it, not under B or S. Otherwise I would list them here, I'm sorry. Maybe it can be found on amazon or even YouTube - Lars You really have a hard disk in your head ? I recommend a hard head and a flexible thinking machine inside :-) - Amazing how flexible this 6800 Motorola inside the brain bucket can be. Must be the Agnes and Denise helper processors! I love reverse cybernetic analogies! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera
Oh, I'm quite new to this group (just a few days). And I don't know that camera model. I wanted to help... Try out Dan's recommendation of the GraphicConverter. On the other hand there are acceptable digicams for less than U$ 100. Depends on yout personal pretension. Lars I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!! Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ... If you'd been following this topic since it's inception over two years ago, July 2007, you'd know that Stephen's camera (now two cameras) don't have any removable memory cards. These are toy cameras sold as Crayola, or Disney, etc. The only way to get anything off the camera is via USB cable. He'll either need to get the OS X software working (for one of these two cameras), or find a PC to install the Windows software onto. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
I'm sorry, my 6100/66 runs a 7.6.1 and I will not change that. Lars WhyOSX wrote: You're right. but it's a way to solve such a problem. iTunes runs without real problems on my G4/733 (Tiger), as on a 5400 G3 or even a PB 1400cs/166 with 9.1 installed - which was a little tricky. Try it on a PM 6100 or PB 5300. It will run, but nothing else will. When I tried it on the 6100 it took 60 seconds for it to respond to the space bar and pause. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook/social networks
You got me totally wrong; that was not promotional - how could it be, there is nothing to win. I just wanted to give an example of a non-boring social network. Lars On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: Join here, and you may change your mind: http://retromaccast.ning.com/ Lars (WhyOSX) - you can find me there. Are you inviting all of LEM to join. Good heaven, no! Ambitious site promotion! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
Thank you, Bruce! I could have asked wiki or google, because I knew they got the names after the pathfinder Ducks. And the robots performed a medical operation on Bruce... Vaguely I recall Bruce Dern doing something on a computer, so there must have been one. Haven't seen Silent Running in decades, so I can't be sure. The robots were called Huey, Dewey and Louie, after Donald Duck's nephews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey,_Dewey,_and_Louie -- Bruce Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running' ?
I have the LP of the sound track, music by Joan Baez ! On vinyl, of course. Lars On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de wrote: Thank you, Bruce! I could have asked wiki or google, because I knew they got the names after the pathfinder Ducks. And the robots performed a medical operation on Bruce... Vaguely I recall Bruce Dern doing something on a computer, so there must have been one. Haven't seen Silent Running in decades, so I can't be sure. The robots were called Huey, Dewey and Louie, after Donald Duck's nephews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey,_Dewey,_and_Louie -- Bruce Johnson _-- One of my favs, but can't remeber either. It seems like he had separate service units at different work area, one even then assumed they would be in a network ( although we may not have known to use the term.) Good trivia question i will run it past the Starbucks council of elders. ( If these guys are the wisest this tribe's in trouble! ) ;) -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: My G4 seems to be running slow
There are 1.8 GHz update cards by Sonnet, but they are astronomically expensive - around 250 $ US they reach on the eBay. I'd like to have one for my G4 b/w/733MHz/1GB and can't afford it. Surely a 'full' disk is a little slower at startup, but not after it's completed. Close any application not needed at the present moment and hope for the best. Lars I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.
The Performas 5400 came with an educational and entertaing software collection for children. But search the macintoshgarden.org for what you think your children should play or learn with. Lars I had not heard of Classilla. I used iCab before I upgraded the G3, but nagware wouldn't be appropriate for kids. Is there a big collection of kids games and edu-games similar to gCompris? Or does one need to troll shareware/freeware sites? Classilla could use a a listing on wikipedia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iTunes shuffle question
Choose another player, name the titles correctly (starting with numbers is the easiest way) - that will work. If there are more than ten tracks, don't forget the leading 0 (Zero). Lars Is there a way to turn off iTunes shuffle? It's really annoying when you have a CD with multiple symphonies or an opera where it plays the acts or movements out of sequence. Roger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?
Does anyone remember HAL ? A HAL 9000? Dan wrote: At 10:44 PM -0700 9/3/2009, Clark Martin wrote: His Hers Macs Yup! Absolutely a necessity! ... and the kids too!! We all have aging Macs that work very well and afford some level of privacy. His and hers Macs??? What an odd concept. Here it's his, hers, hers, hers, hers, his, his, his, his, his, his... That's every one (me, wife, 3 kids) have a laptop and I have a few more. Hard to see getting by on just ONE computer. I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 I always snicker at Tom Hanks line in Apollo 13 when he's escorting congresscritters around and is talking about a computer that fits on a desk You gotta really hand it to Ken Olson there for being such a visionary. :) At least the others had little data to work on. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?
Hi ! Was there a main computer in 'Silent Running', or were there only Huey, Duey and Louis ? I must have mis-spelled them; please send a correction. Over here they have totally different names: Tick, Trick Track (in the comics, not in that movie) I did not want to disturb a serious discussion. Lars On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:16 PM, WhyOSX wrote: Does anyone remember HAL ? A HAL 9000? Uhh, yes, but we're talking about reality, not fiction, here. I also remember : The Great Machine http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/ Colossus (the original Skynet) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/ Skynet http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ Mother http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/ Mother http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069945/ Deep Thought http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081874/ Earth http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081874/ and Max http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092402/ ...but none of them are germane to the quote, either. The rest of the sentence from Ken Olsen's speech has long been truncated in the popular media, here it is: ...the fully computerized home that automatically turned lights on and off and that prepared meals and controlled daily diets ... Got one of those yet? Nope, didn't think so. http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/3155/Ken-Olsen/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes shuffle question
You're right. but it's a way to solve such a problem. iTunes runs without real problems on my G4/733 (Tiger), as on a 5400 G3 or even a PB 1400cs/166 with 9.1 installed - which was a little tricky. Lars On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:09 PM, WhyOSX wrote: Choose another player, name the titles correctly (starting with numbers is the easiest way) - that will work. If there are more than ten tracks, don't forget the leading 0 (Zero). Lars If your music player depends on filenames to be numbered in the correct order it's pretty primitive. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook/social networks
Join here, and you may change your mind: http://retromaccast.ning.com/ Lars (WhyOSX) - you can find me there. At 2:48 PM -0700 9/4/2009, John Niven wrote: Ultimately, like all these social sites, I lose interest after a while (there is always a reason why one lost contact with people which usually hasn't changed). hah! Ain't that the truth! - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?
Sometimes one has to, but it's always a pleasure to return to REAL computers. Lars At 4:13 PM -0700 9/3/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Dan wrote: Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity. Also good for laffs. Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook. Is this the one who insists on using Windows? :-) Why yes, yes he is. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Data Recovery
It is - having iomega's zip or jaz drives and the software they provide. That can be downloaded for free, but you have to become a member. iomega.com That reminds me - is there a way to write protect an external drive? Most (maybe all) of them don't have a hardware switch. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Data Recovery
A good way of write protecting is burning the entire content to CDs or DVDs and lock them away. Then you can sweep the disk by re-formatting. Lars At 9:58 PM -0700 8/31/2009, Paul wrote: That reminds me - is there a way to write protect an external drive? Most (maybe all) of them don't have a hardware switch. I haven't seen a hardware write-lock in years. Most file systems support a software write-lock but it's just that - software. It can be violated at will. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Data Recovery
Don't forget the Nortons - version 8 works on X systems, but DO NOT use a version 5 for journaled disks. At 9:45 PM -0700 8/31/2009, Paul wrote: I have had great success recovering 400 gb of data from an external firewire/ethernet drive via a G4 on OS 9.2.2 With Disk Utility? Disk Utility is Apple's repair tool for Mac OS X (actually it's Unix's fsck). The classic Mac OS (9.2.2) would use Disk First Aid. DFA is nowhere near as sophisticated as DU. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
There must not be a FireWire (why should it be ?) And a borrowed external USB DVD drive will do - if the Mac has the other features. And all of this is possible without XPostFacto. A large amount of RAM is always recommended. But be careful about large disks with these machines. I transferred an internal drive from a G4 (the Matshita DVD RAM burner) to the G3/350 bw, took the 'Tiger' DVD and installed it with a few clicks - no problems. Not the fastest system for this computer, I have to mention. Lars On Aug 30, 2009, at 4:43 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: The question is what you actually need to install Tiger. Officially: To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs: • A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor • Built-in FireWire • At least 256 MB of RAM • DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation • At least 3 GB of free disk space Unofficially, any G3 with or without Firewire, and any older PPC Mac upgraded to a G3 or G4 CPU. XPostFacto can help with installation of Tiger onto unsupported Macs. In my experience any older Mac can benefit from Tiger if it has sufficient RAM and HD space. A Radeon graphics card helps a lot too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
