Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 28, 10:41 am, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I did not say the $595 models were under the Products tab. But look at their home page, about half way down. There are three models at that price.http://matias.ca/products/index.php Oh, my. There they are. Those are not their Tactile model, but they do indeed have $595 keyboards. They all (the $600 ones) feature Matias's half-keyboard typing technology. From the context, one could have gotten the impression that the nice clicky keyboard for the Mac was $595, whereas it is only :-) $149. Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 27, 11:11 am, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote: Al Poulin wrote: On Jun 25, 9:56 am, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: But wait, under the Products tab, see their new Matias Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard. They even have models for $595. I don't know where you got $595. On their Tactile Pro page they list the Black/Silver model for $149.95. The white model is discontinued. Okay, I did not say the $595 models were under the Products tab. But look at their home page, about half way down. There are three models at that price. http://matias.ca/products/index.php Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 27, 2:53 am, James E. Therrault jetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? I have been doing exactly this for years - works great! G. D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Al Poulin wrote: On Jun 25, 9:56 am, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I guess they don't make it any more. That was made by Matias. They now feature a Mac compatible unit at a much lower price. http://www.matias.ca/usb2keyboard/index.php# That isn't their tactile model, but it is very nice. I have three of them in the house, but I got mine when Staples was running the keyboard/mouse combo for under $20. The USB 2.0 dock in the center of the keyboard is a nice feature, but, of course, you must have a USB 2.0 port to connect it to. The keyboard has two USB plugs, one for the keyboard and mouse--USB 1, and one for the dock, USB 2. But wait, under the Products tab, see their new Matias Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard. They even have models for $595. I don't know where you got $595. On their Tactile Pro page they list the Black/Silver model for $149.95. The white model is discontinued. Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Regards Santa check this thread at one used mac list http://groups.google.com/group/one-used-mac/browse_thread/thread/764d269d38d38cee?hl=en --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On 6/25/09 11:53 PM, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net Broadcast into the ether: Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Microsoft keyboards work with Mac's out of the box. You may miss a few functions but with an add on called USB overdrive ( and steermouse for mice) you can pretty much use anything you want. I am typing this to you on a Mac Pro with a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and a Logitech G-5 Mouse. Those are both Microsludge only hardware devices. They are my favorite devices. They are wired though. I refuse to use a non wired HID (human input device) because I am a gamer. -- Kyle H. If you are in the fast lane and getting passed on the right, you are a Jerk. That lever on the left side of your steering column is for your turn signals. Heard of them before? Use them. It lets ME know what YOU want to do, thus protecting YOU. If you don't use them you are are a Triple Jerk for risking the lives of yourselves, your children, other drivers, me, my family etc. If you text while driving you will inevitably get into an accident and are a gigantic Jerk and could kill a non Jerk. Tailgaters are JerksŠunless you are in the parking lot of a sporting event (then you rock). Don't be a Jerk... Unless it Involves a BBQ and a sporting event. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 26, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Microsoft keyboards work with Mac's out of the box. You may miss a few functions but with an add on called USB overdrive ( and steermouse for mice) you can pretty much use anything you want. I am typing this to you on a Mac Pro with a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and a Logitech G-5 Mouse. Those are both Microsludge only hardware devices. They are my favorite devices. They are wired though. I refuse to use a non wired HID (human input device) because I am a gamer. I tried the Logitech MX cordless and feel the same way. I'm back to corded and use nothing but Logitech... CODE~h4t3d --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 25, 9:56 am, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: I'm surprised that Dan didn't pipe up, but there are numerous articles on the Low End Mac website about this very topic. Personally, I don't like the newer Apple keyboards much either, I make WAY too many mistakes no matter how hard I try! I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I guess they don't make it any more. That was made by Matias. They now feature a Mac compatible unit at a much lower price. http://www.matias.ca/usb2keyboard/index.php# But wait, under the Products tab, see their new Matias Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard. They even have models for $595. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 25, 5:28 am, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? I have no idea how your daughter takes to insistence. Do YOU use an aluminum keyboard? But she could be made aware that this old goat now loves his aluminum keyboard. It took a while. At first, I kind-a liked it and gave it up for an older, white keyboard that was given to me. I now use the white one on my iBook. And I put the aluminum one back on the iMac. I find that when I use the aluminum keyboard, I keep half my forearm flat on the desk. The keyboard is 8 inches/20 centimeters from the edge of the desk. That gives me the consistent positioning of the hands that I need. When I am on the white keyboard, I have to revert to the traditional floating arm approach. But I do best with the aluminum one. And I grew up with manual typewriters, and came through IBM Selectrics on the job. By the way, my sister came visiting a month ago, and she took to the aluminum keyboard like a duck to water. She had a career in business offices. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
tonycd wrote: Personally, I love the clicky feel. I'm typing this on a Matias Tactile Pro (an original, not a 2 -- these are REALLY unavailable now). Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? Send me the adapter and I'll try it out. I have a couple of extended keyboards on the shelf... G JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
tonycd wrote: Personally, I love the clicky feel. I'm typing this on a Matias Tactile Pro (an original, not a 2 -- these are REALLY unavailable now). Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? Well, I've got a Matias now because the iMate wasn't officially supported above 10.3 and it had some serious sleep issues. I'd usually have to unplug my Quicksilver form the wall if it went to sleep with the iMate and Apple Extended II keyboard attached. Sure was nice for typing though! The Matias website lists my Tactile Pro 2.0 for Mac (White) as SOLD OUT – DISCONTINUED Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
G'day all Thanks for the feedback, listers. My daughter Tracey has agreed to try the Apple keyboard for a while to see if she will grow to like it, otherwise she can revert to her existing Microsoft PC keyboard (re-mapped). I know how to install the eject icon in the menu bar, so lack of an eject key won't be a problem. I checked the Mathias site, but they want US$40 just to ship overseas. If the PC keyboard proves a hassle, I'll consider it though. I can't find an Aussie shop that sells them; I think the Aluminium Apple Keyboard is proving too popular to warrant stocking alternatives. Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Any replacement keyboards
G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On 25/06/2009, at 9:28 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Good day Brian, There is an option in System Preferences in OSX 10.4+ to change the modifier keys. This will allow you to change your 'alt' key on a normal PC keyboard to 'cmd', therefore, the keys would be in the same place as in an Apple keyboard. Any keyboard that is USB should work on OSX. Function/media etc keys on the keyboard however may not work. I don't see why she does not like the Apple keyboard. To save money and the environment, you should not take the car out to get a new keyboard, but tell her to stay at home and get used to the Aluminum Apple keyboard which is flawless :) Thanks, Po-en Tsai -- iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2, 80gb HDD with 768MB ram. Quite speedy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Regards Santa I'm surprised that Dan didn't pipe up, but there are numerous articles on the Low End Mac website about this very topic. Personally, I don't like the newer Apple keyboards much either, I make WAY too many mistakes no matter how hard I try! I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I guess they don't make it any more. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Regards Santa Logitech KBs look similar and are the regular bouncey type ... I have nice wireless one. I think it offers key mapping (although its manually input) If you're giving the AL away, I'd be happy to give it a home ... I need another one for my Yikes! Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she doesn't like the Apple keyboards. Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can be keymapped? Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist. Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets used to it? Heh... I don't like the Apple keyboards as well and when I bought my Gigabit G4, it was the first thing I replaced. I'm not sure what options you have down under, but certainly there must be some. What I hate most about the Apple keyboards is the close proximity of the function keys to the top row of number keys. Apple could have done better. Remember the full keyboards that Apple made back in the '80's and '90's? They were great! JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
