Disk Utility choke
Hi All A new twist to my first problem. I can't get Disk Utility to do a Restore on either my G4 MDD or the PM G5 2.7 both machines have 10.5.8 leopard and both are PPC. When I try to do a Restore the Disk Utility chokes out wit h an error Could not establish communication with helper tool The same error on the G5. Both machines perform the operation in Tiger. I have even reinstalled Leopard from another retail install disk. Both retail installers are universal. I hve also installed new HDDs in both machines so I can't figure anything else I can do to fix this. any ideas? It works just fine on my Itel machine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility choke
Hello try reinstalling your helper tool. On 4/18/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All A new twist to my first problem. I can't get Disk Utility to do a Restore on either my G4 MDD or the PM G5 2.7 both machines have 10.5.8 leopard and both are PPC. When I try to do a Restore the Disk Utility chokes out wit h an error Could not establish communication with helper tool The same error on the G5. Both machines perform the operation in Tiger. I have even reinstalled Leopard from another retail install disk. Both retail installers are universal. I hve also installed new HDDs in both machines so I can't figure anything else I can do to fix this. any ideas? It works just fine on my Itel machine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility choke
On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:29 AM, John Musbach wrote: Hello try reinstalling your helper tool. On 4/18/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All A new twist to my first problem. I can't get Disk Utility to do a Restore on either my G4 MDD or the PM G5 2.7 both machines have 10.5.8 leopard and both are PPC. When I try to do a Restore the Disk Utility chokes out wit h an error Could not establish communication with helper tool The same error on the G5. Both machines perform the operation in Tiger. I have even reinstalled Leopard from another retail install disk. Both retail installers are universal. I hve also installed new HDDs in both machines so I can't figure anything else I can do to fix this. any ideas? It works just fine on my Itel machine. I have reinstalled Leopard four times from two different Retail installers. Where do I find the helper tool? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility choke
I have reinstalled Leopard four times from two different Retail installers. Where do I find the helper tool? Is this what you need? http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26562/leopardassist -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility choke
On Apr 18, 2010, at 9:56 AM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: I have reinstalled Leopard four times from two different Retail installers. Where do I find the helper tool? Is this what you need? http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26562/leopardassist No my PM G4 MDD is a Dual 1.25 and the PM G5 is a Dual 2.7. Leopard installs direct. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility Hang
On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is it also possible a DVD-RW going bad / being bad, could cause a hangup with trying to eject a disk from it? Oh yeah, unless something in the system's glommed onto a file, but then you should get a 'This Volume cannot be ejected it's busy' type error. Try booting and holding down the mouse button. If it ejects then then it was a software error not a hardware one. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility Hang
On Mar 3, 11:41 am, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Why don't you try memtest with just one memory module installed at a time. That way if they all pass you can then move them from one slot at a time to the next slot and run memtest again. Troubleshooting needs to be taken down to the least number of components to be tested. memtest-ing using the Sandwich Method, IIRC, proves the middle stick is a good one. e.g. If 3 sticks A B C tests OK, you assume B is a good stick. since memtest allegedly exercises the entire middle stick. And so forth. All mine now test good. I'm sort of suspecting a weak PRAM battery. and/or Maybe dust in the slots, a need to re-seat the sticks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Disk Utility Hang
Curious if I'm trying to do too much at once ... or maybe another DVD- RW is going bad (my PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D) ... I kind of think they go bad after a number of years, just because of the half-life of some component that may have radioactive parts ... my Suspicions ... Disk Utility seemed to hang my OS X 10.5.8 on my DA Dual 533. After trying to Eject a disk using the menu disk eject button, I tried also dragging the disk to the Trash ... it didn't really like the multiple requests ... even though I could request a Shut Down, it would just sit in partial shut down state ... an empty Desktop, and no spinning bellybutton thingy. Went on and pushed the Power button until it shut down. I might also have had some app holding onto the drive as well ... Finder ... Toast 6 ... Disk Utility ... I recently put in this DVD-RW to replace another one that had gone bad, and have since upgraded the firmware to 1.08. I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest passes run off applejack. I should continue and rearrange the RAM sticks and test again (sandwiching scheme). I also cleaned things up using applejack in auto-pilot mode. Didn't have the energy to look at the logs ... but a report to Apple noted Disk Utility hang. Any suggestions? Like what to look for in which log? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility Hang
On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest passes run off applejack. DING DING DING. Memtest will tell you which DIMM is failing. Swap em around, test again. Either the memory failure follows the DIMM or it doesn't. If it does it's the DIMM. If it doesn't it's the slot. Replacing the DVD drive because you have a memory problem is like replacing the engine in your car because your rear door fell off. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility Hang
On 3/2/10 2:55 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest passes run off applejack. DING DING DING. Memtest will tell you which DIMM is failing. Swap em around, test again. Either the memory failure follows the DIMM or it doesn't. If it does it's the DIMM. If it doesn't it's the slot. Replacing the DVD drive because you have a memory problem is like replacing the engine in your car because your rear door fell off. Mmmm... Maybe that's why it's suddenly so cold in my car.. I'd better go check! -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility Hang
On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest passes run off applejack. DING DING DING. Memtest will tell you which DIMM is failing. Swap em around, test again. Either the memory failure follows the DIMM or it doesn't. If it does it's the DIMM. If it doesn't it's the slot. Replacing the DVD drive because you have a memory problem is like replacing the engine in your car because your rear door fell off. Always appreciate that sense of humor ... memtest1 A B C Passed (B is good) (Configuration that gave some erratic behavior) memtest2 B A C Passed (A is good) memtest3 B C A Tomorrow after running system some with Configuration 2 Is it also possible a DVD-RW going bad / being bad, could cause a hangup with trying to eject a disk from it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility
On Apr 17, 2:42 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Also note: removable media such as floppies, CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray, are called discs with a c, disk with a k is for fixed media such as HDs. Disc and disk are interchangeable terms, unless you are talking about vertebra; in which case disc is the correct term. Otherwise, they are nominally equally applicable. However, I believe most would use the more correct word, disk, in almost every instance, your preference for distinguishing media from hardware assemblies notwithstanding. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disc http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=1q=disc http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=disksearch=search --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility - ? Answered
On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:31 PM -0500 4/17/2009, DAN A CURRIE wrote: I do not want to keep using the Install Disc just to run Disk Utilities to clean up my HDD. Is 3GB big enough for anything OS X 10.5? To Disk Utilities Repair a partition with OS X on it, I think you have to be somewheres else ... Like booted into the Install DVD or other bootable OS X partition ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility - ? Answered
You could always Install Applejack, and run it from Single User Mode ... Corrects Permissions, Repairs Disk, etc. Same as Disk Utilities? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility - ? Answered
On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is 3GB big enough for anything OS X 10.5? For a totally striped down system it's probably OK. I once had Tiger on a 2GB external Firewire HD just for repairing other Macs. It was a very tight fit, I think I used about 1.5GB and had 500MB freespace. As I remember, the installer wouldn't allow it, saying the drive was too small, but cloning worked fine. But you may be right, Leopard is larger than Tiger, so perhaps 3GB is too small? To Disk Utilities Repair a partition with OS X on it, I think you have to be somewheres else ... Like booted into the Install DVD or other bootable OS X partition ... Yes. But as Dan pointed out, you can verify from the boot partition, and 99% of the time you'll find no errors needing repair, so it's an easier starting point. I think he just wants a special repair partition on the computer so he doesn't need to find the CD/DVD for repairs? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility - ? Answered
Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is 3GB big enough for anything OS X 10.5? For a totally striped down system it's probably OK. I once had Tiger on a 2GB external Firewire HD just for repairing other Macs. It was a very tight fit, I think I used about 1.5GB and had 500MB freespace. As I remember, the installer wouldn't allow it, saying the drive was too small, but cloning worked fine. But you may be right, Leopard is larger than Tiger, so perhaps 3GB is too small? Tiger and the upgrade to 10.4.11 fit nicely on the 3.0 GB HD. To Disk Utilities Repair a partition with OS X on it, I think you have to be somewheres else ... Correct ... hence the reason for the separate HD Like booted into the Install DVD or other bootable OS X partition ... I do not like using my Install DVD just to run Disk Utilities. Yes. I think he just wants a special repair partition on the computer so he doesn't need to find the CD/DVD for repairs? Exactamondo! But instead of a partition I am getting the final use of an old, small, and otherwise wasted HDD that in this configuration should probably last indefinitely and will cause no harm when it ultimately fails. Dan II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:42 PM -0500 4/17/2009, DAN A CURRIE wrote: MDD dualie 1.25 / 2 - GB RAM / 2 - 120 GB HDD + 1 - 3 GB HDD / OS 10.5.4. I would like to set the computer up so that I do not need to install the OS disk to run Disk Utilities. What does install the OS disk mean? Disk Utility runs just fine from the booted system. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com, x...@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Cross-posting to multiple mailing lists ensures that people waste effort duplicating answers. Just not cool. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Are you trying to be dense Dan? He wants to be able to run 'Disk Utility' on the HD/ Partition that is 'Normally' used for booting. [Hence the reference to booting from the OS disk.] Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Apr 17, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Charles Davis wrote: [Hence the reference to booting from the OS disk.] That's OS disc with a c (unless you're trying to be dents?). Otherwise, OS disk is his HD (know won bee sew dents). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility - ? Answered
At 2:31 PM -0500 4/17/2009, DAN A CURRIE wrote: I also cross post to get the maximum response to my questions. If everyone read the same lists then there would be no need for other lists. I watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, and sometimes FOX News for comic relief - then I make up my own mind and draw my own conclusions. Not a very good comparison. Broadcast networks air their content no matter what, and are PAID to produce it, via advertising revenues. Technos mailing lists produce answers AT YOUR REQUEST *for free*. Cross-posting to such is, to be frank, rude. It is totally disrespectful of both groups. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
At 7:40 PM -0400 4/17/2009, Charles Davis wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:42 PM -0500 4/17/2009, DAN A CURRIE wrote: MDD dualie 1.25 / 2 - GB RAM / 2 - 120 GB HDD + 1 - 3 GB HDD / OS 10.5.4. I would like to set the computer up so that I do not need to install the OS disk to run Disk Utilities. What does install the OS disk mean? Disk Utility runs just fine from the booted system. Are you trying to be dense Dan? No. His statement was ambiguous. He wants to be able to run 'Disk Utility' on the HD/ Partition that is 'Normally' used for booting. [Hence the reference to booting from the OS disk.] He wants ... That would be YOUR guess. From the contents of the OP's other post in the other thread, it looks like you win the banana for your interpretation. *shrug* - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Charles Davis wrote: [Hence the reference to booting from the OS disk.] That's OS disc with a c (unless you're trying to be dents?). Otherwise, OS disk is his HD (know won bee sew dents). Sorry Teach!! Till you mentioned the 'Rules' Re: Disk/ Disc a few hours back, I had never heard any 'rules' Re: Disk/ Disc And I've only been aware of and involved in Micro's since before the first Apple 6502's (early 1970's). So it's NOT all that universal. It does make sense though. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:40 PM -0400 4/17/2009, Charles Davis wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:42 PM -0500 4/17/2009, DAN A CURRIE wrote: MDD dualie 1.25 / 2 - GB RAM / 2 - 120 GB HDD + 1 - 3 GB HDD / OS 10.5.4. I would like to set the computer up so that I do not need to install the OS disk to run Disk Utilities. What does install the OS disk mean? Disk Utility runs just fine from the booted system. Are you trying to be dense Dan? No. His statement was ambiguous. He wants to be able to run 'Disk Utility' on the HD/ Partition that is 'Normally' used for booting. [Hence the reference to booting from the OS disk.] He wants ... That would be YOUR guess. From the contents of the OP's other post in the other thread, it looks like you win the banana for your interpretation. *shrug* - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Well, he got some usable answers. So the list succeeds again!!! ;-) Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility and 1TB hard disks
Hi, Disk Utility finished checking my big disk from my Panther partition. I don't know how long it took - I left my computer on all night - but it finished all right and found no problems. Thank you. Regards, Jörg. On Mar 4, 7:17 am, Aaron aa...@macuser.fastmail.fm wrote: At 19:57 -0800 2009/03/03, PeterH wrote: The 10.4 Disk Utility works to at least 500 GB, which is the largest ATA hard drive made (this may have been increased to 750 MB, but it has not been increased to 1 TB and 1.5 TB as these are different series drives from 750 GB). What does different series drives mean? - Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Disk Utility and 1TB hard disks
Hi, I tried to check using the Apple Disk Utility if my new internal 1TB hard disk (SATA with SATA to ATA adapter connected to the 100 ATA bus on my MDD G4) is solid but it takes ages, seems like Disk Utility is stuck somewhere. Same thing in Tiger as it is in Panther ... Is there a capacity limit to using Disk Utility? Like there is a limit to an older Oxford Firewire chip? If Disk Utility tells me there is something wrong in the end do I let it fix it? I remember when the Performa 630s died in droves because Norton Utilities wasn't up to the task and told the users to let it fix it :-) Regards, Jörg. -- Per aspera ad astra. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility and 1TB hard disks
On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Jörg wrote: Is there a capacity limit to using Disk Utility? Like there is a limit to an older Oxford Firewire chip? The 10.5 Disk Utility has no problems with 1 TB drives. I have not tested it with 1.5 TB, but I expect it will work as 1 and 1.5 TB are the same series of drives. The 10.4 Disk Utility works to at least 500 GB, which is the largest ATA hard drive made (this may have been increased to 750 MB, but it has not been increased to 1 TB and 1.5 TB as these are different series drives from 750 GB). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility and 1TB hard disks
At 19:57 -0800 2009/03/03, PeterH wrote: The 10.4 Disk Utility works to at least 500 GB, which is the largest ATA hard drive made (this may have been increased to 750 MB, but it has not been increased to 1 TB and 1.5 TB as these are different series drives from 750 GB). What does different series drives mean? - Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
At 12:00 AM -0500 12/13/2008, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: I just brought the G4 up to 10.4.11 and realize I need some form of Disk Utility. I was going to ask about Diskwarrior et al, but every time I buy this I never use it, so this time will wait for a problem before running out. What would you guys do here? I purchased a black retail installer but there's no disk utility disk. Just use Apple's Disk Utility. As Bill points out in his reply - it's available on the OS DVD, so you can use it to repair your boot volume. Or you can boot on your external clone/backup and run it from there. Disk Utility handles most problems quite well. If it can't, then you can purchase DiskWarrior or Data Rescue ... but really, at that point, the only time you'd be reaching for those particular utilities is if you totally failed to make backups. (hint hint) :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:13 AM, insightinmind wrote: Disk Utility app is on the Install Disk. After restarting from the Install DVD, go past the Language Window, and in lieu of Installing, go up to the Menu bar and find Disk Utility in one of the drop down menus ... can't remember which one off hand ... but its there among others like Startup Disk ... Thank you! I guess I didn't see it because I installed from another Mac, actually. So when I get the optical drive I'll look again. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Dan wrote: Just use Apple's Disk Utility. As Bill points out in his reply - it's available on the OS DVD, so you can use it to repair your boot volume. Or you can boot on your external clone/backup and run it from there. Disk Utility handles most problems quite well. If it can't, then you can purchase DiskWarrior or Data Rescue ... but really, at that point, the only time you'd be reaching for those particular utilities is if you totally failed to make backups. (hint hint) :) Okay ... I always backup my data. But I never made an external clone of everything because I didn't have a bootable drive. Guess I figured if anything went horribly wrong I'd just reinstall the System, put back the data, and voila. I am thinking that's what they are referring to when they write nuke and pave. However, is there a better way and can you point me in direction of a resource I can use to make a clone? Many thanks as always! Anne Keller Smith You can use Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner to make bootable copies. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Disk Utility handles most problems quite well. If it can't, then you can purchase DiskWarrior or Data Rescue ... but really, at that point, the only time you'd be reaching for those particular utilities is if you totally failed to make backups. (hint hint) :) Okay ... I always backup my data. But I never made an external clone of everything because I didn't have a bootable drive. Guess I figured if anything went horribly wrong I'd just reinstall the System, put back the data, and voila. I am thinking that's what they are referring to when they write nuke and pave. However, is there a better way and can you point me in direction of a resource I can use to make a clone? For backup, I like Carbon Copy Cloner or CCC 3.1.3, under Tiger and / or Leopard, which IMO does it all (along with any of a variety of hard drives, often externally housed). See: http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html Yes ... I recently did a Nuke Pave ... chose to re-Install Leopard from scratch. The Nuke was zeroing the entire partition I had previously installed Leopard upon, and the Pave was using the Leopard Install DVD, and then Software Update to reach (pave my way) back to 10.5.5. I needed to re-install all my other drivers (like the one for my M-Audio 2496 PCI Card, the one for USB-MIDI connectivity for my Yamaha digital keyboard, and the one for my Logitech Wireless KB and Mouse, etc etc etc ... pave, pave, pave). There were Time Machine backups, but they were all tainted with add on apps that messed up my OS X partition ... well, that I added, that messed up the OS X 10.5.5 ... and then there's the latest and greatest in OS development for the Intels ... Having a second machine, a PCI Graphics Yikes! a friend gave me, that I also wanted to backup, running Tiger 10.4.11, I chose to use the new CCC 3.1.3 to create clones of my partitions to a FW Harddrive connected to my other machine, a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz. The QS is now using Time Machine to back itself up, and my Yikes! uses CCC over my home network. Now if something goes wrong, I can boot from the clone, and/or CCC it back ... something going wrong meaning a hardware failure, not an OS X failure. I might also switch to CCC for the QS if I stop liking the eye candy nature of Time Machine. Just some thoughts to ponder ... or not ... Best wishes, Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
At 10:41 PM -0500 12/13/2008, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Dan wrote: the only time you'd be reaching for those particular utilities is if you totally failed to make backups. (hint hint) :) I always backup my data. But I never made an external clone of everything because I didn't have a bootable drive. Guess I figured if anything went horribly wrong I'd just reinstall the System, put back the data, and voila. I am thinking that's what they are referring to when they write nuke and pave. Your method is just fine. Many of us like to use an external clone because it makes other things so much easier. If something is foo on your system, a quick reboot onto the clone can tell you a lot. Faster to reboot onto the clone for the purposes of repairing the internal, too (avoid that agonizing long wait while the DVD boots). Nuke and Pave is faster too - since the clone is already your whole system. However, is there a better way and can you point me in direction of a resource I can use to make a clone? Tis Xmas Season! External HDs are often on sale. Depending on the quality and the plethora of interfaces... you can do anything from 500 GB to 1 TB for $99. Then just use SuperDuper or CarbonCopyCloner to make the backup. Partition the external a bit. Make at least one that matches the size of each of your internal drives - that way you can back 'em each up. The extra volume is great of other storage. We've had several threads about backups and SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) over the past year. Take a look at 'em. Good info there. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Disk Utility and HFS
Disk Utility reports the disk utility stopped verifying Macintosh HD because the following error was encountered. 1 HFS volume checked. Volume needs repair. What goes on here? System specs: Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 Processor 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 Memory 768 MB DDr SDRAM More info: Hardware Overview: Machine Name:iMac G5 Machine Model: PowerMac8,1 CPU Type:PowerPC G5 (3.0) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 768 MB Bus Speed: 600 MHz Boot ROM Version:5.2.2f4 Serial Number: W85022CRPP7 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Disk Utility
Hi - I just brought the G4 up to 10.4.11 and realize I need some form of Disk Utility. I was going to ask about Diskwarrior et al, but every time I buy this I never use it, so this time will wait for a problem before running out. What would you guys do here? I purchased a black retail installer but there's no disk utility disk. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Maxtor 40gb HD shows up as 19gb in Disk Utility
Another possibility is that the bridge jumper is set to the size limiter setting. Check that before doing anything else. If the jumper is set to the limit setting, the full capacity of the drive will not show up with any utility program. Remember to set the bridge jumper to the proper identification, Master or Slave, for your need. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
