Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
It's significant that it ran OK until you opened it up, set it on its side, etc. The panic might simply be that a RAM stick got dislodged; try pulling and reseating all the pieces. But even if that gets it started it sounds like you should still be seeking a refund. On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:27:02 PM UTC-5, glenstrek wrote: > > Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side > down on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No > drips or wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked > back in an hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No > start up chime, the fans start to rev and then rev down (< 1 sec) and stay > down, blank screen. > > Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts? > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
>> As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be the > source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on one > corner > and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the inside. OTOH, the > G5 > was not double boxed and some random pieces of styrofoam used to to keep the > 44 > lb contents in place were broken. >> > A word to the wise, ALWAYS get shipping insurance. USE THE USPS. Fed X (May > they Rot in Hades) cheated me out of the PowerComputing Power Tower PRO that > they must have dropped about four feet onto the concrete. > An eMail friend in Canada, sent me a spare case he had and I transferred the > contents. RHB >> Definitely good advice. In this situation UPS was the shipper and insures shipments for $100 if no additional insurance is requested. If a claim is filed they will inspect the shipping box and packing for damage. There is little damage to the box and packing so it is iffy they would honor this claim. This was a bargain purchase, you take you chances and roll the dice. I have purchased Mac's from this seller in the past with good results. In general I have been very lucky with the used Mac market --but there is always a chance you will get burned. I do expect compensation from the seller. Thanks for your reply -- glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:27 PM, glen wrote: > >> G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. >> M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. >> >> >> Photo's >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ >> >> > > As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be the > source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on one > corner and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the inside. > OTOH, the G5 was not double boxed and some random pieces of styrofoam used to > to keep the 44 lb contents in place were broken. > A word to the wise, ALWAYS get shipping insurance. USE THE USPS. Fed X (May they Rot in Hades) cheated me out of the PowerComputing Power Tower PRO that they must have dropped about four feet onto the concrete. An eMail friend in Canada, sent me a spare case he had and I transferred the contents. RHB > > > Regarding the idea of transporting the internals to another case, I agree > that I will not trust the seller to ship the proper G5 case for this model in > good condition. And as I suspected from two posters the process could be long > and tedious. Perhaps a great retirement project but I still have at least a > year to go and need the G5 now as I enter a greatly needed busy day job > schedule. > , thanks everyone --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
It sounds like you are drawing the same conclusion I am at this point. If it worked that would be one thing, but it doesn't. You paid for a working computer. Not another project, however fun. Send it back. -Doc Jimbo On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM, glen wrote: > > >G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. > M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. > > > > > >Photo's > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ > > > > > Thanks for the replies, my response will follow but first the latest. > > Monday: the damaged G5 ran for 3-4 hours with no apparent problems BUT > when booting I would hear the fans start to rev up and a short pause rev > down (< 1 sec) the a continued rev up and a successful boot. > > Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side > down on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No > drips or wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked > back in an hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No > start up chime, the fans start to rev and then rev down (< 1 sec) and stay > down, blank screen. > > Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts? > > I'll try to summarize my reply's to posts I can remember, both on and off > list. > > > First, I still can't remove the LCS cover as suggested. There was a > plastic stud or rivet holding the cover in place. I shaved the top off with > a knife but still I could not remove the cover. > > As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be > the source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on > one corner and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the > inside. OTOH, the G5 was not double boxed and some random pieces of > styrofoam used to to keep the 44 lb contents in place were broken. > > > Regarding the idea of transporting the internals to another case, I agree > that I will not trust the seller to ship the proper G5 case for this model > in good condition. And as I suspected from two posters the process could be > long and tedious. Perhaps a great retirement project but I still have at > least a year to go and need the G5 now as I enter a greatly needed busy day > job schedule. > > Probably won't get much trouble shooting time until weekend --looks like > junk, thanks everyone --glen > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
>G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. >M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. > > >Photo's >http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ > > Thanks for the replies, my response will follow but first the latest. Monday: the damaged G5 ran for 3-4 hours with no apparent problems BUT when booting I would hear the fans start to rev up and a short pause rev down (< 1 sec) the a continued rev up and a successful boot. Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side down on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No drips or wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked back in an hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No start up chime, the fans start to rev and then rev down (< 1 sec) and stay down, blank screen. Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts? I'll try to summarize my reply's to posts I can remember, both on and off list. First, I still can't remove the LCS cover as suggested. There was a plastic stud or rivet holding the cover in place. I shaved the top off with a knife but still I could not remove the cover. As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be the source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on one corner and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the inside. OTOH, the G5 was not double boxed and some random pieces of styrofoam used to to keep the 44 lb contents in place were broken. Regarding the idea of transporting the internals to another case, I agree that I will not trust the seller to ship the proper G5 case for this model in good condition. And as I suspected from two posters the process could be long and tedious. Perhaps a great retirement project but I still have at least a year to go and need the G5 now as I enter a greatly needed busy day job schedule. Probably won't get much trouble shooting time until weekend --looks like junk, thanks everyone --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
> >> 2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no_ SATA drive at hand to > >> test (one > >> cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. > > > > Not sure why Cameron says that this will be difficult to replace, as > > SATA hard drives are the easiest to find replacements for nowadays. I'm not talking about the hard disk; I'm talking about getting the cable back on the board. You can try to reattach it, but if it has to be replaced, you have to clip and destroy the old one and rethread the new one through the hard drive bay. It's not as easy as it looks. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana. --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. Conerns; 1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it. The only way to thoroughly inspect for LCS problems is to completely disassemble the CPU modules from the mobo and check the area where the "O"-rings are located, which you can't see without pulling the CPU's from the mobo. This is where the corrosion will begin if a leak is too slow to cause catastrophic leakage. Even if there is no leakage, I strongly suggest that you replace those "O"-rings with new ones, to insure that they do not begin leaking in the near future. 2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no_ SATA drive at hand to test (one cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. Not sure why Cameron says that this will be difficult to replace, as SATA hard drives are the easiest to find replacements for nowadays. If you are going to keep the computer, you need a SATA drive anyway, so just buy a new one. If it is the HD sled you are worried about finding, the G5 PowerMac does not have any sled IIRC, but it does have specially rounded screws that fit on the sides of the HD and guide the HD into the proper spot, with a flip down retaining tab that holds the HD in place. Questions: 1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production software is Mac PCI based. See my private email to you regarding potential buyers for this system, now that the port of MorphOS3.x supporting G5 PowerMac's with AGP slots and Radeon video cards will soon be finished. 2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new case? Any propriety tools needed? And how to find_ "take a part" instructions? I'm up for a challenge --but is it worth it ??? I have done it and it is not too difficult. There is a guide at iFixIt.com that takes you step-by-step through the process. Like Cameron, I suggest that you take the money from the seller and then decide if you want to keep the G5, or sell it to someone else who is interested in the operation and not the looks of your system. A new case is going to be expensive for the seller to find and buy for you, so if you want to keep it for yourself and looks are important, you might want to ask for the new case. Good luck. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:06:03 PM UTC-5, glenstrek wrote: > > The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on > arrival. How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a > new case? Any propriety tools needed? > I bought one with a bent case several years ago, it looked just like yours and it was far cheaper than a pristine one. My solution, which I highly recommend, was to purchase a 27" monitor and hide the G5 behind it! Worked great! But being the anal-retentive sort that I am I eventually got out a bunch of large clamps and wrenches and went to work straightening the bent aluminum. That worked pretty well cosmetically but since the rivets were popped (like yours are) the case wasn't 100% stable; still I ran it like that a few years. Finally I got a good used case at a great price and transplanted all the "guts". What a PIA, unless you really like tinkering with things it's very frustrating but not impossible. The only special tool needed is a very long 2.5 mm torx driver, I found a 10" one at Ace Hardware (Eklind 10" 2.5 mm torx #54925). Looking back at it I probably should have stuck with my first solution. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> That doesn't look to me like damage from shipping??? > > I agree. > > I saw those HD jumper pins all bent that are recessed down into a hole and > thought "looks like someone bent these pins on purpose" because I can't see > anyway these get bent in shipping. I own a similar G5 and to me this damage > looks beyond anything you could do by dropping. I think someone mangled this > computer purposefully. Me three, those pins shouldn't be connected afaik on a SATA drive anyway. And no way could that cind of damage have been done if the drive was installed in it's bay. Bending the SATA connecter down that way needs someone to yank down really hard on the cable; force enough to do that would demolish even a G5 case. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:06 PM, glen wrote: > G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. > M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. > Curious who the Shipper was ... I had a similar G5 model (Quad Core) machine shipped to me by FedEx Ground, and even though the computer case showed no damage, the box and styrofoam formed around the machine was punched in on one end, and the G5 did not work as expected and claimed by the Seller. Other damage to the box included scrapes and dented corners. All was sent back including the display that was in the ebay deal ... the display box had grappling hook holes in one side of the box and styrofoam, and scrapes and dented corners. I decided I did not want to try and fix a liquid cooled system ... probably too expensive and beyond my level of expertise. I'm now enjoying an air-cooled Mac Pro 2 x quad core 3.0 GHz under Snow Leopard ... running my Power PC apps under Rosetta. Also decided not to buy / ship much else over the December / January holiday season ... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: That doesn't look to me like damage from shipping??? I agree. I saw those HD jumper pins all bent that are recessed down into a hole and thought "looks like someone bent these pins on purpose" because I can't see anyway these get bent in shipping. I own a similar G5 and to me this damage looks beyond anything you could do by dropping. I think someone mangled this computer purposefully. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
That doesn't look to me like damage from shipping??? I would just get as much money back from them as you can get so you can at least buy the parts you need to fix it. The damage to the case doesn't look like it will affect the performance at all. I could fix that the damage to the case if I had it with a plastic hammer. So it looks like all you need would be a hard drive and the sled as long as the caps aren't leaking... -Original Message- >From: glen >Sent: Jan 27, 2013 11:06 PM >To: "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" >Subject: G5 Damaged in Shipping > >G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. >M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. > > >Photo's >http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ > >The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on arrival. >When received there was no anchor screw in the video card slot and no sled for >the HD. The video card was reseated and appears OK, the hard drive is toast. > >The G5 will boot from a retail OS 10.4 install DVD. It will also boot from a >external FireWire 10.4.11 drive. All appears OK for the short time I had it >running. > >Conerns; >1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it. >2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no SATA drive at hand to test (one >cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. > >The seller has offered to: >1) send a new case >2) OR offer some $$ compensation > >Questions: >1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production >software is Mac PCI based. > >2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new >case? Any propriety tools needed? And how to find "take a part" instructions? >I'm up for a challenge --but is it worth it ??? > >3) Just live with the bend up case and get a few dollars off purchase price >after all the Mac is 9 years old. > >Somewhat disappointing to finally get G5 and receive it in a damaged >condition. Sort'a like buying a classic Corvette and getting slammed by a >distracted driver while stopped at a traffic light on its first drive. OTOH it >is a challenge to restore what is left to restore. > >All responses welcomed, thanks --glen > >-- >-- >You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for >those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power >Macs. >The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette >guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > > Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping
> G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. > M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. > Conerns; > 1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it. Pull the "G5" box off and look. There might be a little plastic retention rivet on top if it's never been inspected after it left the factory; usually you have to snap that off. At the shop they have spares for it, but you won't, so expect the "G5 box" just to wiggle loosely after that. Then, look for leakage, simple as that. *Any* moisture should be of concern, especially if it was "virgin." Make sure they have not slipped off the CPU dies. Assuming visual inspection passes, I'd do a couple passes in AHT/ASD and then burn it in for 48 or 72 hours on Highest Performance (just leave it on and see if it overheats). > 2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no_ SATA drive at hand to test (one > cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. That's difficult to replace, but not impossible. The service manual can explain. Just make sure the headers on the *logic board* are okay. > Questions: > 1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production > software is Mac PCI based. I think it stinks cosmetically, but the unit is probably salvageable. > 2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new > case? Any propriety tools needed? And how to find_ "take a part" > instructions? I'm up for a challenge --but is it worth it ??? It's hard labour, mostly getting the power supply out. I would really advise against it assuming the damage is cosmetic -- it's probably not going to be as good as you would expect and can you really trust a guy like this to send you a pristine case? Take the money, check the board thoroughly. It's probably still operable. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- With a rubber duck, one's never alone. -- Douglas Adams, "HGTTG" --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Damaged in Shipping
G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. M9457LL/A, liquid cooling. Photo's http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/ The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on arrival. When received there was no anchor screw in the video card slot and no sled for the HD. The video card was reseated and appears OK, the hard drive is toast. The G5 will boot from a retail OS 10.4 install DVD. It will also boot from a external FireWire 10.4.11 drive. All appears OK for the short time I had it running. Conerns; 1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it. 2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no SATA drive at hand to test (one cable was found disconnected from the motherboard. The seller has offered to: 1) send a new case 2) OR offer some $$ compensation Questions: 1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production software is Mac PCI based. 2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new case? Any propriety tools needed? And how to find "take a part" instructions? I'm up for a challenge --but is it worth it ??? 3) Just live with the bend up case and get a few dollars off purchase price after all the Mac is 9 years old. Somewhat disappointing to finally get G5 and receive it in a damaged condition. Sort'a like buying a classic Corvette and getting slammed by a distracted driver while stopped at a traffic light on its first drive. OTOH it is a challenge to restore what is left to restore. All responses welcomed, thanks --glen -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
