Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
Ya, that's what I ended up with... Jeff On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:48 PM, iJohn wrote: I think it's simpler to just use a hub ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dan wrote: > At 8:45 AM -0700 6/30/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: >> here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one >> of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead >> of the USB hub? > > Not sure how that would work. You'd be stealing, or at least trying to > steal, extra power from the bus that already can't handle the load of the > longer cable run and the devices connected. My understanding is that the whole point of the "dual USB" was a way to try to sneak around the current limitations imposed on each port. If each USB is limited to 500mA then using two theoretically bumps the ceiling to 1 A. How well this would work in practice when dealing with whatever causes the losses in long cable runs, well I never did have any intuition for electric circuits. I think it's simpler to just use a hub ... or migrate to USB 3.0 ( 3 > 2 therefore all scenarios will "work" better. ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
At 8:45 AM -0700 6/30/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I recently moved the mdd about 15 feet from the desk. Then connected my keyboard/mouse and monitor via 15 ft. extension cables (dvi and usb). Video works great, but keyboard/mouse didn't have the power it needed... A 6' extension cable is about all that works before needing a powered hub. I then used a USB 2.0 7 port hub at the MDD end to boost power, which, by the way works great. here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead of the USB hub? you know, like the usb cables you sometimes get when you buy a 2.5 external hard drive? to provide power to bigger hard drives installed into that 2.5 USB enclosure? Not sure how that would work. You'd be stealing, or at least trying to steal, extra power from the bus that already can't handle the load of the longer cable run and the devices connected. Either use a shorter extension, or a powered hub. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:12 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I recently moved the mdd about 15 feet from the desk. Then connected my keyboard/mouse and monitor via 15 ft. extension cables (dvi and usb). Video works great, but keyboard/mouse didn't have the power it needed I then used a USB 2.0 7 port hub at the MDD end to boost power, which, by the way works great. here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead of the USB hub? you know, like the usb cables you sometimes get when you buy a 2.5 external hard drive? to provide power to bigger hard drives installed into that 2.5 USB enclosure? Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Machine Info: Model Name:Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name:PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.6.0f1 Serial Number (system):XB3130D0NP3 Can you boot 9 on that machine. The USB cable idea will work but the hub is the way to go put a 2.0 USB card in the MDD and the the hub. That's how I do it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 Why boot 9? Jeff I'm a CNC machine programer and I use a CAD/CAM application that requires a Rainbow dongle. So not only do I get to play with my Macs I also make my living doing so:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:12 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I recently moved the mdd about 15 feet from the desk. Then connected my keyboard/mouse and monitor via 15 ft. extension cables (dvi and usb). Video works great, but keyboard/mouse didn't have the power it needed I then used a USB 2.0 7 port hub at the MDD end to boost power, which, by the way works great. here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead of the USB hub? you know, like the usb cables you sometimes get when you buy a 2.5 external hard drive? to provide power to bigger hard drives installed into that 2.5 USB enclosure? Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Machine Info: Model Name:Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name:PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.6.0f1 Serial Number (system):XB3130D0NP3 Can you boot 9 on that machine. The USB cable idea will work but the hub is the way to go put a 2.0 USB card in the MDD and the the hub. That's how I do it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 Why boot 9? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More power to keyboard/mouse please!
On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I recently moved the mdd about 15 feet from the desk. Then connected my keyboard/mouse and monitor via 15 ft. extension cables (dvi and usb). Video works great, but keyboard/mouse didn't have the power it needed I then used a USB 2.0 7 port hub at the MDD end to boost power, which, by the way works great. here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead of the USB hub? you know, like the usb cables you sometimes get when you buy a 2.5 external hard drive? to provide power to bigger hard drives installed into that 2.5 USB enclosure? Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Machine Info: Model Name:Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name:PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.6.0f1 Serial Number (system):XB3130D0NP3 Can you boot 9 on that machine. The USB cable idea will work but the hub is the way to go put a 2.0 USB card in the MDD and the the hub. That's how I do it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
More power to keyboard/mouse please!
I recently moved the mdd about 15 feet from the desk. Then connected my keyboard/mouse and monitor via 15 ft. extension cables (dvi and usb). Video works great, but keyboard/mouse didn't have the power it needed I then used a USB 2.0 7 port hub at the MDD end to boost power, which, by the way works great. here's the question: has anybody on the list tried using one of those "dual USB connections" to provide extra power instead of the USB hub? you know, like the usb cables you sometimes get when you buy a 2.5 external hard drive? to provide power to bigger hard drives installed into that 2.5 USB enclosure? Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Machine Info: Model Name: Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.6.0f1 Serial Number (system): XB3130D0NP3 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
