Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Mactracker (http://www.mactracker.ca/) has a feature that lets you choose which mac you have and it tells you the software package that comes with it (the proper number on the install disk). I know it seems like you are backing up, but I think I would just double check and make sure you have the right restore disk for the imac before going down any other road. Hope this helps Gus. On Sep 9, 8:02 am, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
It is definitely formatted correctly, I think you're wrong. I believe you're confusing file system type and partition map type? You probably have the correct file system (HFS+ journalled), but the wrong partition map type (should be Apple partition map, you probably have Master Boot Record or GUID?). This will cause the installer to give the error message you've seen OS X can't be installed on this computer. When partitioning the HD, you select the partition map type under the Options button within the Partition tab of Disk Utility. Okay, this is what I've got: Open Disk Utility shows 233.8 GB Maxtor 6B25050 Untitled 5.7 GB MatshitaDVD-R Mac OS X Install Disk 1 Click Erase tab Default Choice is Mac OS Extended(Journaled) Name: Untitled Click Partition Tab shows Partition: Volume Scheme: Current Name: Untitled Format: Mac OS Extended(Journaled) Size: 233.64 GB I don't have an Options button, but the box where the partition format is stated is a drop down menu. I don't have options for Master Boot Record or GUID Are you and I talking the same versions of OSX? I'm trying to restore a White Plastic PowerPC iMac G5 to its original 10.4 (Tiger) software. The REALLY weird thing thing is, I had a Retail Tiger Install disk in my collection, but it was an upgrade disk. Out of desperation, I started up from it. It loaded, and did not tell me it could not install the software on this computer. It just got upset because it couldn't find 10.3 to upgrade. Sigh. I can't install 10.3 on this iMac because it requires 10.4.2 minimum to run. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 8:14 pm, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Iamanamma, it sounds like you have tried everything, however if I my suggest, 1. Reboot and do a PRAM reset. 2. Reboot and do a NVRAM reset. 3. Reboot to Install disk. 4. Not sure about 10.4.x as I've never had that version, however on 10.3.x and 10.5.x there is an install option that says Erase and Install As far as I know that option will format the disk to be installed the best way for the install. Cheers How do you do a NVRAM reset? I can't even get to the install options. The error message stops me right after I choose English as my language. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Iamanamma wrote: On Sep 9, 8:14 pm, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Iamanamma, it sounds like you have tried everything, however if I my suggest, 1. Reboot and do a PRAM reset. 2. Reboot and do a NVRAM reset. 3. Reboot to Install disk. 4. Not sure about 10.4.x as I've never had that version, however on 10.3.x and 10.5.x there is an install option that says Erase and Install As far as I know that option will format the disk to be installed the best way for the install. Cheers How do you do a NVRAM reset? I can't even get to the install options. The error message stops me right after I choose English as my language. \ You have to pick at least one partition to get the option to fix the partition map. Try again you're almost there:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
You have to pick at least one partition to get the option to fix the partition map. Try again you're almost there:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com Already did that. There is still no joy in Mudville. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
FWIW, the exact same thing happened to me with a G3 iBook. Everything was right (formatting, the CDs), yet I couldn't install the software. I finally gave up, cloned my Pismo HDD to it using CCC (both the 10.4.11 and the 9.2.2 partitions), and it worked. I still don't know what happened... Felix On Sep 9, 9:02 am, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Iamanamma wrote: Already did that. There is still no joy in Mudville. You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is the correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going to find out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot Record or GUID, and you're going to need to start over with a correctly formatted HD. Open Disk Utility, highlight the HD (not a partition, the icon in the left-hand column for the entire HD) and then look in the bar at the bottom to the right under Partition Map Scheme. It should say Apple Partition Map but likely says Master Boot Record instead? To fix, you'll need to reformat the HD using the Partition Tab and then change the Volume Scheme from Current to 1 Partition and then use the Options button at the bottom to change the Partition Map Scheme to Apple Partition Map. Now your OS X should install normally without the warning. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is the correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going to find out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot Record or Open Disk Utility, highlight the HD (not a partition, the icon in the left-hand column for the entire HD) and then look in the bar at the bottom to the right under Partition Map Scheme. It should say Apple Partition Map but likely says Master Boot Record instead? To fix, you'll need to reformat the HD using the Partition Tab and then change the Volume Scheme from Current to 1 Partition and then use the Options button at the bottom to change the Partition Map Scheme to Apple Partition Map. Now your OS X should install normally without the warning. Doesn't matter anymore. Using TDM worked! Installation accomplished. Now I am using my newly acquired TDM knowledge to transfer the user account and all of its information from another iMac to the one I've been working so hard to fix. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
What is a TDM? Target Disk Mode, once known as Firewire Target Disk Mode. Boot the machine up with the 'T' key held down, then connect via firewire cable to another OSX system...the first computer will show up as a drive on the second. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Thank you Bruce! That worked! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Yes, one of several reasons that has deterred me from owning an Intel Mac. So many already APM-formatted great Firewire boot drives. But the list of Intel-only apps keeps growing. On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is the correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going to find out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot Record or GUID, and you're going to need to start over with a correctly formatted HD. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Iamanamma wrote: Now I am using my newly acquired TDM knowledge to transfer the user account and all of its information from another iMac to the one I've been working so hard to fix. Better be a PPC iMac. Intel and PPC don't mix in Tiger, but are totally mixed in Leopard, so it's hard to keep things straight, especially when they use different partition map schemes for the HDs. It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel PPC, but it MUST be Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Could you elaborate? Thanks. On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel PPC, but it MUST be Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:47 PM, onelucent wrote: Could you elaborate? Thanks. On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel PPC, but it MUST be Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme. You can boot only with Apple partition map. The HDD can only have one partition map. The GUID is preffered by Intel but not necessary John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Iamanamma wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? You're using a machine specific install disk you need a Retail Universal disk. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
You're using a machine specific install disk you need a Retail Universal disk. John Carmonne John: Are you serious? The install disks are keyed to a specific iMac serial number? I bought all 4 of my PowerPC G5 iMacs at the same time. I have two different sets of iMac G5 disks that I have tried, and neither one is working. You know, I have loved using Macs from the first time I laid fingers on one, but these white iMacs have been the biggest PITA. Between bad capacitors on the motherboards and in the power supplies, burned up hard drives, bad pixels in the flat screens AND a bad stand on one of them, I have had more trouble with these particular machines in the 4 years that I have had them than I have with my 20 year old collection of IIsi Macs! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Iamanamma wrote: You're using a machine specific install disk you need a Retail Universal disk. John Carmonne John: Are you serious? The install disks are keyed to a specific iMac serial number? I bought all 4 of my PowerPC G5 iMacs at the same time. I have two different sets of iMac G5 disks that I have tried, and neither one is working. Are they all the same model/processor speed? I think some machine specific disks are that specific. No, they are not tied to a machine's serial number. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Are they all the same model/processor speed? I think some machine specific disks are that specific. No, they are not tied to a machine's serial number. Len When I bought them they were all IMACG5 20/2.0GHZ/512/250 (Straight off the receipt from Apple) I have replaced a couple of hard drives, but they're still the same machines. I have not encountered this problem before. I found a third set of the original install disks, and they're not working either. Can I install to an external hard drive (enclosure) and cheese the iMac into accepting it that way? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Are they all the same model/processor speed? I think some machine specific disks are that specific. No, they are not tied to a machine's serial number. Len When I bought them they were all IMACG5 20/2.0GHZ/512/250 (Straight off the receipt from Apple) I have replaced a couple of hard drives, but they're still the same machines. I have not encountered this problem before. I found a third set of the original install disks, and they're not working either. Can I install to an external hard drive (enclosure) and cheese the iMac into accepting it that way? Just a thought:- if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Just a thought:- if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted Hi Ted: Of course I did updates, because Software Update demanded it. (if you could only see me rolling my eyes.) All of them were at 10.4.11. It is quite upsetting that I can't seem to do a fresh install of the OS. I've not heard of updates creating that kind of problem, but anything is possible. I just need to get the basic OS installed onto this darned hard drive so I can install the updates. It's driving me crazy! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Iamanamma wrote: Just a thought:- if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted Hi Ted: Of course I did updates, because Software Update demanded it. (if you could only see me rolling my eyes.) All of them were at 10.4.11. It is quite upsetting that I can't seem to do a fresh install of the OS. I've not heard of updates creating that kind of problem, but anything is possible. I just need to get the basic OS installed onto this darned hard drive so I can install the updates. It's driving me crazy! OK then can you do a TDM to a working iMac and then a CCC to get it on the machine all you need is a FW cable John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA USA From TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Iamanamma wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. You will also get this error if the hard drive is formatted with the wrong file system, such as MS-DOS, or is messed up. Boot from the installer, run disk utility, go into the partition tab and re-partition the drive, making sure that the format is HFS+ (Journaled). Just select '1 partition' from the drop down menu at the bottom. Look again at the installer disk, have someone ELSE look at it (seriously, I have stared and stared at the wrong disk before, and thought it was the right one), try a different G5 restore set. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Iamanamma wrote: You're using a machine specific install disk you need a Retail Universal disk. John Carmonne John: Are you serious? The install disks are keyed to a specific iMac serial number? I bought all 4 of my PowerPC G5 iMacs at the same time. I have two different sets of iMac G5 disks that I have tried, and neither one is working. Well, if that's the case and the disks you have came with the particular machine you're trying to install on then a trip to the Apple Store is in order. However you stated you bought 4 iMac's and mention two sets of disks that don't work, sounds to me like you have the wrong ones. If you can get one set to work on any one machine then use CCC to install to any other machine. I like retail universal disks because they work every where. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
You will also get this error if the hard drive is formatted with the wrong file system, such as MS-DOS, or is messed up. Boot from the installer, run disk utility, go into the partition tab and re-partition the drive, making sure that the format is HFS+ (Journaled). Just select '1 partition' from the drop down menu at the bottom. Look again at the installer disk, have someone ELSE look at it (seriously, I have stared and stared at the wrong disk before, and thought it was the right one), try a different G5 restore set. -- Bruce Johnson Hi Bruce: It is definitely formatted correctly, and I had out 4 sets of disks. One was for our G5 tower, ad I can understand why it didn't work. Now, I do think I may have used the tower's set to do the re-format. Would that cause this problem? I can easily grab one of the iMac G5 sets and start over again. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Well, if that's the case and the disks you have came with the particular machine you're trying to install on then a trip to the Apple Store is in order. However you stated you bought 4 iMac's and mention two sets of disks that don't work, sounds to me like you have the wrong ones. If you can get one set to work on any one machine then use CCC to install to any other machine. I like retail universal disks because they work every where. Ugh. I dread the thought of going to the Apple store. It's a 2 hour drive and it is ALWAYS crawling with people. The Genius Bar is ALWAYS behind schedule, and I just am not all that interested in losing 5-6 hours of my day AND having to pay Apple for that privilege. CCC is Carbon Copy Cloner? What is a TDM? I'm not up on all these abbreviations. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Iamanamma wrote: It is definitely formatted correctly, and I had out 4 sets of disks. One was for our G5 tower, ad I can understand why it didn't work. Now, I do think I may have used the tower's set to do the re-format. Would that cause this problem? The reformatting shouldn't have caused the issue. I can easily grab one of the iMac G5 sets and start over again. Probably best. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Iamanamma wrote: CCC is Carbon Copy Cloner? yes. What is a TDM? Target Disk Mode, once known as Firewire Target Disk Mode. Boot the machine up with the 'T' key held down, then connect via firewire cable to another OSX system...the first computer will show up as a drive on the second. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Iamanamma wrote: if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted Hi Ted: Of course I did updates, because Software Update demanded it. FYI, firmware updates and software updates are not the same thing. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Yes you can and make use of the firewire Target Disk Mode check the System Pref / Start up disk - BTW you can get a firewire cable for $ 2. do NOT GO TO FRYS as they want $ 19.95 for exact same cable. Good Luck = add a external drive? JML --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: From: Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com Subject: Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 7:12 AM Are they all the same model/processor speed? I think some machine specific disks are that specific. No, they are not tied to a machine's serial number. Len When I bought them they were all IMACG5 20/2.0GHZ/512/250 (Straight off the receipt from Apple) I have replaced a couple of hard drives, but they're still the same machines. I have not encountered this problem before. I found a third set of the original install disks, and they're not working either. Can I install to an external hard drive (enclosure) and cheese the iMac into accepting it that way? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
I know your mad - get this, I had 6 G4s but only one would let me install 10.4.11, the other 5 are exactly the same inside and outside, but only this one would install, so I just moved the hd to each after the install and updates worked just fine - still do not know why? JML --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: From: Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com Subject: Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 8:20 AM Just a thought:- if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted Hi Ted: Of course I did updates, because Software Update demanded it. (if you could only see me rolling my eyes.) All of them were at 10.4.11. It is quite upsetting that I can't seem to do a fresh install of the OS. I've not heard of updates creating that kind of problem, but anything is possible. I just need to get the basic OS installed onto this darned hard drive so I can install the updates. It's driving me crazy! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 12:40 pm, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: I know your mad - get this, I had 6 G4s but only one would let me install 10.4.11, the other 5 are exactly the same inside and outside, but only this one would install, so I just moved the hd to each after the install and updates worked just fine - still do not know why? JML I'm not mad, just frustrated. The rolling my eyes was a gesture to convey my opinion of having to do those updates all the time, just to end up with this crazy behavior from my iMac. I probably did do firmware updates too, never suspecting that my life would be complicated by doing something that was supposed to help my computer run better. There are lots of good suggestions, advice and commiseration from all of you folk here on this list. Thank you all so much for taking the time to advise me, to set me straight, and to make all other very helpful posts. I'll continue working on the problem, and will let you know if I come up with a magic combination that fixes it! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Ugh. I dread the thought of going to the Apple store. It's a 2 hour drive and it is ALWAYS crawling with people. The Genius Bar is ALWAYS behind schedule, and I just am not all that interested in losing 5-6 hours of my day AND having to pay Apple for that privilege. CCC is Carbon Copy Cloner? What is a TDM? I'm not up on all these abbreviations. I guess I'm somewhat fortunate to have an Apple Store and a Fry's on my route to work so In your case I would go to the Apple store with machine and disks in hand and I'm confident the Genius would fix me up, they don't want an irate customer in the midst of new customers as long as you have a legit complaint.:-) I still think there's a simple solution to the problem, just in the heat of the moment we loose sight of the obvious, it happens to me all the time. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Iamanamma wrote: It is definitely formatted correctly, I think you're wrong. I believe you're confusing file system type and partition map type? You probably have the correct file system (HFS+ journalled), but the wrong partition map type (should be Apple partition map, you probably have Master Boot Record or GUID?). This will cause the installer to give the error message you've seen OS X can't be installed on this computer. When partitioning the HD, you select the partition map type under the Options button within the Partition tab of Disk Utility. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Greetings, Iamanamma, it sounds like you have tried everything, however if I my suggest, 1. Reboot and do a PRAM reset. 2. Reboot and do a NVRAM reset. 3. Reboot to Install disk. 4. Not sure about 10.4.x as I've never had that version, however on 10.3.x and 10.5.x there is an install option that says Erase and Install As far as I know that option will format the disk to be installed the best way for the install. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Sep 9, 6:02 am, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Hey the Genius Bar at the Apple Store is free, it's only if they have to send it to back Techs will they charge you!!! I took my Clamshell once because I couldn't get it to work on dailup and they spent 45 mins on it and no charge and just a few weeks ago I took my Titanium Powerbook because it over heated and I couldn't find the reset button and once again no charge!!! And these were to different stores: one was in King of Prussia, PA and the other was in Tampa, FL... Ugh. I dread the thought of going to the Apple store. It's a 2 hour drive and it is ALWAYS crawling with people. The Genius Bar is ALWAYS behind schedule, and I just am not all that interested in losing 5-6 hours of my day AND having to pay Apple for that privilege. CCC is Carbon Copy Cloner? What is a TDM? I'm not up on all these abbreviations. -- Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
