Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-19 Thread Martin N

Personal video recorder
ie tivo or sky+ box in the UK.

Plug in an old VCR into the scart socket and record on the PVR.

The PVR has a dvd recorder integrated so i transfer the hard disk recording
to dvd.

Martin N

At 20:15 16/12/2011, you wrote:

hard disk PVR???


On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Martin N wrote:


TBH i just record the tape on my hard disk PVR and transfer to DVD.

Stick the DVD in your mac and get editing.

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-18 Thread David W. Morris

hard disk PVR???


On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Martin N wrote:


TBH i just record the tape on my hard disk PVR and transfer to DVD.

Stick the DVD in your mac and get editing.

Martin N



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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-18 Thread David W. Morris
I already have an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro All-In-Wonder 128mb VRAM AGP  
video card, but it is for a PC with only Windows bios  drivers.  I  
was hoping that I could re-flash it to use in one of my PowerMac's,  
but have not yet figured out which bios to use yet, or how to re-flash  
it without having a Windows PC that has an AGP video slot.  Someone  
suggested that I could do it by installing it into my MDD G4 PowerMac,  
or G5 PowerMac and booting it with a remote desktop application as a  
Startup program, so I could control the re-flashing from another  
computer where I could see the desktop display, as the Mac with the  
All-In-Wonder installed in it would not show any display until the re- 
flashing was completed and the computer re-booted.


If I can get the All-In-Wonder working on my G5 PowerMac, that would  
be the best way for me to import my video, as I would not have to buy  
any new (used) hardware to get my tapes imported.  It would also be  
nice to be able to use the TV tuner functions of this card from  
MacOSX, but I don't know if this is possible, as there may not be any  
drivers for it on the Mac side.  This will be my first attempt at re- 
flashing any video cards for use in a Mac.



On Dec 16, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Rodney Smith wrote:

I just ran across an ATI all-in-wonder 128 PCI graphics card that I  
plan on putting in my G4 MDD. It has S-video, composite video and TV  
tuner capabilities.  These may be hard to find because they came in  
16MB and 32MB video ram amounts.  I would try ebay.  Like you I have  
a bunch of old videos lying about that I want to transfer to digital  
format.


Good Luck,
R. W. Smith


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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-18 Thread David W. Morris
I can get a EasyCAP device for as little as $6.30, but it comes with  
software only for Windows PC's.  I wonder if it would be recognized by  
Apple's iMovie, or iDVD software, or Toast 9 Titanium?


It is cheap enough to risk buying and trying it out.  I wonder how it  
could compare to a similar device that costs 15 times as much?  Some  
times you get what you pay for, some times you get lucky and find  
something that is just as good, at a drastically lower price, and  
sometimes you get screwed when buying the higher priced item.  It is  
hard to tell which will happen, which is why reading reviews online is  
such a great advantage of these times we live in.


Still, I would prefer to get my All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro working in  
either of my PowerMac's and use it as an input device, instead of  
buying any new devices.





canopus'  ADVC300 worked great for me, external processing power and  
nice bridge between a VCR and my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz.


a bit expensive ...

but u get what u pay 4 ...

http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc300


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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-18 Thread Richard Starr
Certain old Canon digital camcorders will take analog video input from any 
source and output digital FireWire video in real time.  If you can learn which 
model numbers you might find one on eBay for a song.

My solution to archiving large amounts of Hi8 and VHS was to buy a DVD 
recorder.  It's a a quick and easy real time way to digitize.  But if you want 
to edit them on the computer you need to rip and convert the DVDs to an 
editable format.  Cinematize is the program that I use.   My system is great if 
you don't need to edit a lot of what you archive.

Rich

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On Dec 16, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Paxton innfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac users
 input their analog composite video into their Mac's for editing?  I have a
 couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family tapes that I want to edit
 
 
 I have tried the All in Wonder  to digitize video and didn't really
 like it. It is getting long in tooth and I had dropped frames.
 
 the canopus  ADVC300 is highly rated. I didn't buy one when my surplus
 dealer had a bunch for about $100 and am regretting it. It is one of
 the most recommended methods to dump video.
 
 Recently I bought a Sony 350 Digital 8 camcorder with a firewire out
 that I am hoping will work for my old Hi8 tapes. I have a lot to edit
 also.
 
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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Fabian Fang
On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:59 AM, David W. Morris wrote:

 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac users 
 input their analog composite video into their Mac's for editing?  I have a 
 couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family tapes that I want to edit 
 on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't know what is the easiest, or most 
 popular way of importing my video content.

Roxio Video Capture USB for Mac should work on your Dual G5:
http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/toast/device/overview.html

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Rodney Smith
I just ran across an ATI all-in-wonder 128 PCI graphics card that I plan on
putting in my G4 MDD. It has S-video, composite video and TV
tuner capabilities.  These may be hard to find because they came in 16MB
and 32MB video ram amounts.  I would try ebay.  Like you I have a bunch of
old videos lying about that I want to transfer to digital format.

Good Luck,
R. W. Smith

Dual G4 MDD, G4 PB 1.67Ghz, G5 and Dual Core 2.0

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:59 AM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac users
 input their analog composite video into their Mac's for editing?  I have a
 couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family tapes that I want to
 edit on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't know what is the easiest, or
 most popular way of importing my video content.

 Thanks,
 AmigaDave
 MorphOS2.7  MacOSX Leopard on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini  Dual 1.42GHz G4
 PowerMac, MorphOS3.0 beta  MacOSX Leopard on 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks 
 Leopard on Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Clark Martin
On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:59 AM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac users 
 input their analog composite video into their Mac's for editing?  I have a 
 couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family tapes that I want to edit 
 on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't know what is the easiest, or most 
 popular way of importing my video content.

I use an EyeTV. I use it mostly for off air recording but I have also used it 
for video tape transfers. It works well for either. It interfaces to the mac 
via USB. 

I suppose the feature to be looking at for your purposes is what video format 
it saves in. While you should be able to convert it to what you need, having it 
in the right format to begin with would save a step. 



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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:59 AM, David W. Morris wrote:

If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac  
users input their analog composite video into their Mac's for  
editing?  I have a couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of  
family tapes that I want to edit on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but  
don't know what is the easiest, or most popular way of importing my  
video content.


canopus'  ADVC300 worked great for me, external processing power and  
nice bridge between a VCR and my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz.


a bit expensive ...

but u get what u pay 4 ...

http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc300

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Wayne Stewart
I've used a couple of Elgato devices that input S or composite video
and send it to a Mac via USB2. I used an earlier product and later the
EyeTV 250 Plus. At the time I bought it, it said it required a G4 or
higher but when my G4 died in the middle of a project I discovered a
G3 worked with both the hardware and software

On Dec 16, 12:59 am, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac
 users input their analog composite video into their Mac's for
 editing?  I have a couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family
 tapes that I want to edit on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't
 know what is the easiest, or most popular way of importing my video
 content.

 Thanks,
 AmigaDave
 MorphOS2.7  MacOSX Leopard on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini  Dual 1.42GHz G4
 PowerMac, MorphOS3.0 beta  MacOSX Leopard on 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks 
 Leopard on Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Martin N

TBH i just record the tape on my hard disk PVR and transfer to DVD.

Stick the DVD in your mac and get editing.

Martin N

At 08:59 16/12/2011, you wrote:

If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac
users input their analog composite video into their Mac's for
editing?  I have a couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family
tapes that I want to edit on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't
know what is the easiest, or most popular way of importing my video
content.


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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Paxton
 If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac users
 input their analog composite video into their Mac's for editing?  I have a
 couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family tapes that I want to edit


I have tried the All in Wonder  to digitize video and didn't really
like it. It is getting long in tooth and I had dropped frames.

the canopus  ADVC300 is highly rated. I didn't buy one when my surplus
dealer had a bunch for about $100 and am regretting it. It is one of
the most recommended methods to dump video.

Recently I bought a Sony 350 Digital 8 camcorder with a firewire out
that I am hoping will work for my old Hi8 tapes. I have a lot to edit
also.

-- 
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA

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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Kris Tilford

On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Paxton wrote:


Recently I bought a Sony 350 Digital 8 camcorder with a firewire out
that I am hoping will work for my old Hi8 tapes. I have a lot to edit
also.


I don't know if the Digital 8 camcorder will play Hi8 tapes or not,  
but I do know that most Sony Digital 8 can be made to pass-thru  
analog video and output digital video as if they are an analog-to- 
digital converter device. You plug-in the analog device to the RCA  
jacks on the digital camcorder and use a Firewire cable for the  
output. On some lower model camcorders you need to modify the firmware  
to enable the pass-thru function. This isn't commonly known, but most  
Sony digital camcorders within a range of identical looking models are  
actually identical camcorders with more functions enabled thru the  
firmware only. You can take a cheaper model and modify it to the same  
as a more expensive model if you know the correct modification to  
firmware.


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Re: Analog video input?

2011-12-16 Thread Paxton
 I don't know if the Digital 8 camcorder will play Hi8 tapes or not, but I do
 know that most Sony Digital 8 can be made to pass-thru analog video and
 output digital video as if they are an analog-to-digital converter device.
 You plug-in the analog device to the RCA jacks on the digital camcorder and
 use a Firewire cable for the output.


The Digital 8s will play Hi-8 tapes, at least the high end ones will.
I didn't know you could modify some  with firmware.

I have a JVC DV camcorder with pass through and it does work as
mentioned above. I did a test with my G4 Quicksilver and it worked but
it was a lot of cabling and my only Hi-8 source camcorder had mono
audio, one of the reasons I went looking for a 300 series Sony
Camcorder.
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