Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
At 8:43 PM -0700 3/20/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Is there an application that will buffer a You Tube file as to afford smooth play on the slower processors? Yes, use some application to download the video, transcode it to dvd and play it that way. You can see the minor drawbacks of this process: it takes far more processing power than just playing the video. Seriously, it's time to consign the PPC to the scrap heap for this kind of application. YouTube recently discontinued the fmt tags. Things were rough for a few weeks after but now this past few weeks... I donno... Playing YouTube stuff on my QuickSilver has been pretty good! Not as smooth as on a multi GHz x86 Mac, but still quite watchable. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: YouTube recently discontinued the fmt tags. What does discontinued mean? I tried Googling about for some announcement or other info on just Google did, but didn't come up with anything. Does Google just ignore this fmt tag now? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I honestly don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and Flash. It runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had and the 733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock hardware. A LOT of Youtube's content is now HD, which is the problem; people connect to a yourtube video and it runs like crap because a machine that old is just not capable of decoding HD flash video, particularly with the Flash browser plugin. I can watch Youtube stuff adequately on my 1.67 GHz AlBook, but only by downloading the video (in my case with CosmoPod) so I can play the video with Quicktime (flash requires the Perian plugin, but so does real life,. it's a must-have QT plugin for all mac users http://perian.org/ ) On my old 1Ghz TiBook even this wouldn't work with anything above 360p HD, which is pretty crappy. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
I understand that more content is being posted in HD but most if not all of what I watch has the option to dial it down a bit to say 360p and it runs fine. I think it might be partly people forgetting these machines are several years old because they are still so capable at everything else that sometimes you forget you are using an older machine. I have also heard that most of the problem with flash on PPC has more to do with the PPC implementation of Flash being horribly written and has more to do with the mediocre effort of an Adobe software developer then the actual hardware. I am not a programmer so I could not really make an informed decision on that one. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I honestly don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and Flash. It runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had and the 733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock hardware. A LOT of Youtube's content is now HD, which is the problem; people connect to a yourtube video and it runs like crap because a machine that old is just not capable of decoding HD flash video, particularly with the Flash browser plugin. I can watch Youtube stuff adequately on my 1.67 GHz AlBook, but only by downloading the video (in my case with CosmoPod) so I can play the video with Quicktime (flash requires the Perian plugin, but so does real life,. it's a must-have QT plugin for all mac users http://perian.org/ ) On my old 1Ghz TiBook even this wouldn't work with anything above 360p HD, which is pretty crappy. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I understand that more content is being posted in HD but most if not all of what I watch has the option to dial it down a bit to say 360p and it runs fine. LOTS of people don't recognize that you can dial it down. See also this classic rant from John Welch: http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2010/01/stop_crashing_my_browser.html I have also heard that most of the problem with flash on PPC has more to do with the PPC implementation of Flash being horribly written and has more to do with the mediocre effort of an Adobe software developer then the actual hardware. Yes. I've read (recently, although I don't remember where) that the Flash plugin was originally the responsibility of one person at Adobe who had never programmed for the Mac before. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
At 12:56 PM -0400 3/21/2011, John Martz wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: YouTube recently discontinued the fmt tags. What does discontinued mean? I tried Googling about for some announcement or other info on just Google did, but didn't come up with anything. Does Google just ignore this fmt tag now? We're talking about YouTube, not Google. There is a difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#Quality_and_codecs Note the footnotes after the codec chart. discontinued means the tag is no longer supported. You can stick it in the url, but it makes no difference anymore. I'm guessing that since YouTube videos now play on my older Macs without that tag, they are perhaps doing some sniffing of the processor type and speed from JavaScript and adjusting accordingly. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I honestly don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and Flash. It runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had and the 733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock hardware. A LOT of Youtube's content is now HD, which is the problem; people connect to a yourtube video and it runs like crap because a machine that old is just not capable of decoding HD flash video, particularly with the Flash browser plugin. I can watch Youtube stuff adequately on my 1.67 GHz AlBook, but only by downloading the video (in my case with CosmoPod) so I can play the video with Quicktime (flash requires the Perian plugin, but so does real life,. it's a must-have QT plugin for all mac users http://perian.org/ ) Like most have stated I have had no success with viewing streaming Youtube videos. My best Mac is a 733 MHz DA and in streaming Youtube there are long pauses with only a few seconds of play. However once the video is downloaded using only the Activity window in Safari it plays without a hiccup with the free MPEG Streamclip video player on the DA. Copying the same video over to a 400 Mhz BW it also plays without a hitch. I do have Perian installed but don't think Perian is needed with Streamclip. All the vids downloaded are 3-10 minutes long and not likely HD. I guess if the files were much longer or HD this may not be practical but perhaps a sort'a work-around for some old PPC Mac's? I don't view many Youtube vids just some favorite music that crops up from time to time. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
At 4:41 PM -0700 3/21/2011, glen wrote: Like most have stated I have had no success with viewing streaming Youtube videos. My best Mac is a 733 MHz DA and in streaming Youtube there are long pauses with only a few seconds of play. Sounds like you have a buffering problem. What speed is your 'net connection? Try clearing your browser cache. Try clearing your flash cache. Try changing the Flash storage settings. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html However once the video is downloaded using only the Activity window in Safari it plays without a hiccup with the free MPEG Streamclip video player on the DA. Which means that the machine is fast enough to handle the flash content. The problem is buffering - the ability of the machine to get enough of the content in memory to keep up with playing it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:37 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: However the You Tubes still don't do any good on the slower PPC's, but DVD's play super, Go figure. I can watch DVD's on my Wally's in OS 9. This has been hashed out in great detail before, but comparing DVD playback to streaming video from YouTube is like comparing a fish to a bicycle. DVD's are encoded for fast playback and (in the case of your Wally) you often have a specific co-processor to decode the thing in hardware. YouTube is compressed much more highly, and there is no hardware help. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:37 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: However the You Tubes still don't do any good on the slower PPC's, but DVD's play super, Go figure. I can watch DVD's on my Wally's in OS 9. This has been hashed out in great detail before, but comparing DVD playback to streaming video from YouTube is like comparing a fish to a bicycle. DVD's are encoded for fast playback and (in the case of your Wally) you often have a specific co-processor to decode the thing in hardware. YouTube is compressed much more highly, and there is no hardware help. -- Bruce Is there an application that will buffer a You Tube file as to afford smooth play on the slower processors? It's a PITA to see some funny stuff and then have to run to a faster machine to watch it, even many times the sound is jumpy too. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Is there an application that will buffer a You Tube file as to afford smooth play on the slower processors? Yes, use some application to download the video, transcode it to dvd and play it that way. You can see the minor drawbacks of this process: it takes far more processing power than just playing the video. Seriously, it's time to consign the PPC to the scrap heap for this kind of application. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
I honestly don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and Flash. It runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had and the 733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock hardware. Maybe the imacs are not so great since they were consumer level machines but honestly unless I try and run a you tube video at 720p it runs fine. But I would not expect a computer of any manufacture that old to stream HD anyway. Are my machines anomalies in that they handle youtube and other Flash sites just fine? On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Is there an application that will buffer a You Tube file as to afford smooth play on the slower processors? Yes, use some application to download the video, transcode it to dvd and play it that way. You can see the minor drawbacks of this process: it takes far more processing power than just playing the video. Seriously, it's time to consign the PPC to the scrap heap for this kind of application. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Mar 17, 8:21 am, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: You should use TenFourFox. It is designed for G4 processors and will run better than Safari. It can also use all the FireFox add-ons. He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina Alex, what is TenFourFox and where do you get it? Jane FYI I just compared TenFourFox on my TiBook G4 Tiger 867MHz 133 Bus speed with 1 GB RAM to Safari and Safari still does a better job on the You Tube's, You Tubes are not consistent in streaming quality and hard to evaluate on these slower machines. However the You Tubes still don't do any good on the slower PPC's, but DVD's play super, Go figure. I can watch DVD's on my Wally's in OS 9. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
Interesting idea, Tina. How do you do that, making Safari (or Camino, or FireFox) pretend it’s an iPad? I did something like that with my PB1400 running 8.6. Its Wamcom browser doesn’t digest Wikipedia well, so I use a convertor for reading Wikipedia on a mobile device. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On 2011/03/18 10:15, Geke wrote: Interesting idea, Tina. How do you do that, making Safari (or Camino, or FireFox) pretend it’s an iPad? You have to enable Safari's Developer menu, and then you can choose from a number of different user agent strings to make Safari identify itself differently. This was part of John Gruber's plan to minimize your need for Flash plan: http://daringfireball.net/2010/11/flash_free_and_cheating_with_google_chrome or here: http://bit.ly/d3vBxT *AND* http://daringfireball.net/2010/11/masquerading_as_mobile_safari or: http://bit.ly/bwcqiu along with using Click To Flash Google Chrome (Intel only) for when you are forced to use Flash. I'm using most of this on my MacPro and happy with the results, my PPC Macs I'm relying primarily on Click To Flash. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Tina K. wrote: He said that YouTube is like a slide show. (His opinion!) Is there a way to speed up the processor? YouTube is available in several formats, and there are ways to avoid Flash and force the use of the WebM HTML5 format instead. It may be faster than Flash, but I wouldn't count on it? The best option for YouTube on older, slower Macs is to use lower quality video which will appear a little blurry but will playback smoothly instead of the choppy slideshow motion he's getting now. It used to be that you could add fmt=5 to the end of any YouTube URL to get this low quality stream, but I think this doesn't work any longer, but he could still try. The new method requires you to access your YouTube Account Settings and go to Playback settings and select the low-quality stream as your permanent preference. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
YouTube is heavy on the computer, unfortunately it's as simple as that. You can improve the display by not using full-screen mode, and by using a low-resolution alternative stream as pointed out by the other posters. Or see if you can increase the computer's RAM, and maybe install a clean OS. Re. overclocking: that is not for the faint at heart. It means changing something to the hardware, or deep inside the operating system, to make the processor run faster than its tested maximum speed. In practice, that will give you 1. something like a 10% speed boost and 2. more system crashes. A more realistic thing would be to replace the processor by a faster one, but as far as I know that can't be done in iMacs. (Please correct me, anyone.) Somehow your post sounds as if he is used to a different computer and/ or a different internet connection where everything goes smooth. Yes, there are cheap Windows-boxes playing YouTube better than this iMac. What to do? You could tell him that Macs are for being creative, not for consuming tons of YouTube crap... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
I would be interested if MacTubes works on your Mac. That is the only way they play reliably on my G4 with a 1ghz Sonnet card (dual 450's before). http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28608/mactubes Note on MacTubes: Change the video player to Quicktime (Player menu, Player sub-menu), and as suggested make sure everything is updated all the way. I also use Camino as the browser on my G4. Mike On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/03/16 14:03, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I hope overclock is the right word for my question! G4 17 Flat Screen iMac 10.4.11 800 MHz I gave this computer to a teenager. He said that You Tube is like a slide show. (His opinion!) Is there a way to speed up the processor? If there is it is probably impractical. Given the proper information and truckloads of money it could probably be done… He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
You should use TenFourFox. It is designed for G4 processors and will run better than Safari. It can also use all the FireFox add-ons. He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: You can't replace the processor but you can replace the motherboard with a faster one. The best thing you can do is to sell it and get a PowerMac G4 with dual processors (preferably a MDD) my Quicksilver with a dual 1.3 processor upgrade, maxed out RAM and a Radeon 9800 can barely play flash video. On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Geke wrote: AFAIK that particular iMac will not allow a logic board swap to a faster one, even if it did the fastest iMAC G4 1.25 GHz is still unbearable on any streaming video. My G4 MDD Dual 1.25 would almost do it but no cigar. The only machine in the PPC line I have that will play good is a G5 Dual 2.7 with Tiger. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 17, 8:21 am, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: You should use TenFourFox. It is designed for G4 processors and will run better than Safari. It can also use all the FireFox add-ons. He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina Alex, what is TenFourFox and where do you get it? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 16, 1:09 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: G4 17 Flat Screen iMac 10.4.11 800 MHz I gave this computer to a teenager. He said that You Tube is like a slide show. (His opinion!) Is there a way to speed up the processor? Jane Sorry That machine won't play the You Tube stuff . The slowest I have that is somewhat tolerable with the streaming stuff is a 1.25 MHz with a 167. Bus. John Carmonne John, I watched YouTube just fine on this iMac. It ran just like it should and not as a slide show. The kid had a Gateway that died, so he was comparing the iMac to it. I did remind him that the Mac was FREE! LOL Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
Here's the URL http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ If you want there is another browser by the same group called Classilla (http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/). Classilla is for Mac OS 9 to Mac OS 10.3. It runs well on my RAM challenged iMac 333. And it should run like the wind on you iMac if you happen to have it booted into Mac OS 9. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I hope overclock is the right word for my question! G4 17 Flat Screen iMac 10.4.11 800 MHz I gave this computer to a teenager. He said that You Tube is like a slide show. (His opinion!) Is there a way to speed up the processor? Jane Sorry That machine won't play the You Tube stuff . The slowest I have that is somewhat tolerable with the streaming stuff is a 1.25 MHz with a 167. Bus. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
You really can't overclock one of those as far as I know. Get all the updates from apple, as well as the Flash Player updates and try a different web browser. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
On 2011/03/16 14:03, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I hope overclock is the right word for my question! G4 17 Flat Screen iMac 10.4.11 800 MHz I gave this computer to a teenager. He said that You Tube is like a slide show. (His opinion!) Is there a way to speed up the processor? If there is it is probably impractical. Given the proper information and truckloads of money it could probably be done… He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list