Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 1/23/11 10:36 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: Here is a screen image of the installation panel where Flash is mentioned. It appears 2-3 panels into the install process: http://www.margnat.com/tech/Ubuntu/UbuntuInstallFlash.jpg Quote: Ubuntu uses third-party software to display Flash, MP3 and other media, and to work with some wireless hardware. Some of this software is closed-source. That only applies to Intel-based systems; the 'third party' software in this case is supplied by Adobe. It is X86-only. There is the GNASH project and another one that provides flash support without Adobe. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Flash,%20Flash%20video%20and% 20Gnash -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Clark Martin wrote: There is the GNASH project and another one that provides flash support without Adobe. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Flash,%20Flash%20video%20and%20Gnash Here's a follow-up to my Ubunutu experience. Flash is not automatically included in the install with version 10.10. I haven't followed through with GNASH. Display resolution does not match up with the default in preferences (800x600) and there are no options in preferences to select your monitor. I posted this on ubunutuforums.org support and have gotten response from someone who is cobbling code for me that I will have to applie through terminal which I am less than thrilled about. Ubuntu is definitely not as seamless as I had hoped. Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
2011/1/19 skinnie andre.fa...@ua.pt Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? Did an Ubuntu 10.10 Install on a ibook G3 500, but had trouble with the screen. The problem is the configuration of the grafic driver. Will try it on a PowerMac G3 450 Greetings Aehne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote: On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Clark Martin wrote: There is the GNASH project and another one that provides flash support without Adobe. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Flash,%20Flash%20video%20and% 20Gnash Here's a follow-up to my Ubunutu experience. Flash is not automatically included in the install with version 10.10. I haven't followed through with GNASH. Display resolution does not match up with the default in preferences (800x600) and there are no options in preferences to select your monitor. I posted this on ubunutuforums.org support and have gotten response from someone who is cobbling code for me that I will have to applie through terminal which I am less than thrilled about. Ubuntu is definitely not as seamless as I had hoped. In over a dozen installs of Linux (that's a dozen different distros) I think that only once or twice has the XWindows worked out of the box. Most times it requires adding monitor resolution settings. In some cases it works but at a small resolution. Other times it just can't start X and leaves you in the shell. It's not hard to change but you do need to know what to do. I was able to fix it the first few times by checking on the web. After that I knew what to look for (and had another machine available to use as a template). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote: On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:33 AM, skinnie wrote: Wow,I didn't think so much people would answer me :) I've read somethings and it appears that although there is no adobe flahsplayer for ppc linux,there are free alternative flash like gnash. That screen telling about flash in the installation is just generic I think. How do you do have dual boot between mac and ubuntu? When I asked about flash,it is because it is the only thing that I can think that osx may be worse in the powermac. Dual boot between OSX and Ubuntu by installing Ubuntu on a separate volume (either partition your single drive or add a second drive). Then when you start the mac, hold the Option key down and you will get a window showing icons for all viable system equipped volumes. Choose Mac or Ubuntu and you're set. Or you can install Ubuntu on an HD along with OS X. The bootloader gives you a prompt to choose between Ubuntu or OS X (or any other installed OS I think). Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: Here is a screen image of the installation panel where Flash is mentioned. It appears 2-3 panels into the install process: http://www.margnat.com/tech/Ubuntu/UbuntuInstallFlash.jpg Quote: Ubuntu uses third-party software to display Flash, MP3 and other media, and to work with some wireless hardware. Some of this software is closed-source. That only applies to Intel-based systems; the 'third party' software in this case is supplied by Adobe. It is X86-only. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 1/23/11 10:36 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: Here is a screen image of the installation panel where Flash is mentioned. It appears 2-3 panels into the install process: http://www.margnat.com/tech/Ubuntu/UbuntuInstallFlash.jpg Quote: Ubuntu uses third-party software to display Flash, MP3 and other media, and to work with some wireless hardware. Some of this software is closed-source. That only applies to Intel-based systems; the 'third party' software in this case is supplied by Adobe. It is X86-only. add-on for ubuntu, works with PPC - mythbuntu http://www.mythbuntu.org/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 2011/01/23 16:27, t...@savingus.org so eloquently wrote: add-on for ubuntu, works with PPC - mythbuntu http://www.mythbuntu.org/ I wouldn't call it an add-on, more of a variant like Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc… Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:21 PM, skinnie wrote: Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? I haven't installed Ubuntu on my Sawtooth yet. I have a G4 with two drives, one waiting for Ubuntu. What version did you install and where did you download it? Any pointers, warnings, helpful online resources? I just updated the Ubuntu install on my G4 to 10.04.1. I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my G4 and want to pass along a tip in case anyone tries to type in a username during the install process that contains a capital letter - don't use capital letters. The install will not proceed. Anyone else contemplating throwing Ubuntu at one of their G3/G4s - do it! Add a second drive dedicated to Ubuntu. As a Mac user you'll feel right at home - it is very mac-like. I can't wait to begin installing all of the free software out there. Regarding Flash, I read on the screen during installation that Flash is supported. Firefox is the browser. Just make sure to check a couple of boxes that allow downloading updates during installation, and say Yes to any extras offered during installation. Thanks for getting me off my duff! Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 2011/01/22 13:42, Dale Hoffman so eloquently wrote: Regarding Flash, I read on the screen during installation that Flash is supported. Firefox is the browser. Just make sure to check a couple of boxes that allow downloading updates during installation, and say Yes to any extras offered during installation. I believe that is inaccurate, please let us know once you are up and running. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/01/22 13:42, Dale Hoffman so eloquently wrote: Regarding Flash, I read on the screen during installation that Flash is supported. Firefox is the browser. Just make sure to check a couple of boxes that allow downloading updates during installation, and say Yes to any extras offered during installation. I believe that is inaccurate, please let us know once you are up and running. Tina -- Here is a screen image of the installation panel where Flash is mentioned. It appears 2-3 panels into the install process: http://www.margnat.com/tech/Ubuntu/UbuntuInstallFlash.jpg Quote: Ubuntu uses third-party software to display Flash, MP3 and other media, and to work with some wireless hardware. Some of this software is closed-source. I'm not yet up and running. Although the installation completed successfully I am not able to boot into Ubuntu due to an Input/output error. I've posted a query on UbuntuForums.org . Here is a link if anyone is interested in following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1673794 (Note to list keepers, I don't want to turn this into a non-conforming thread outside the general interests of g3-5 subscribers.) Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Sawtooth with ubuntu?
Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 2011/01/19 13:21, skinnie so eloquently wrote: Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? I had Ubuntu on my iMac at one time and there is no Flash for PPC Ubuntu, or any other distro that I know of. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:21 PM, skinnie wrote: Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? I haven't installed Ubuntu on my Sawtooth yet. I have a G4 with two drives, one waiting for Ubuntu. What version did you install and where did you download it? Any pointers, warnings, helpful online resources? Thanks! Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: where did you download it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: where did you download it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads What version did you download? I read that the last official release was 6.10 and that there were more apps for this version. Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 2011/01/19 17:03, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: where did you download it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads If you want Ubuntu the installer is a few MB too big for a CD. You can avoid wasting a DVD by using the Kubuntu installer which does fit on a CD and then apt-get install Ubuntu followed by apt-get remove of Kubuntu. The full commands are here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 2011/01/19 18:36, Tina K. so eloquently wrote: On 2011/01/19 17:03, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: where did you download it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads If you want Ubuntu the installer is a few MB too big for a CD. You can avoid wasting a DVD by using the Kubuntu installer which does fit on a CD and then apt-get install Ubuntu followed by apt-get remove of Kubuntu. The full commands are here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome Sorry, I believe that would be apt-get install gnome. The Mac section of the Ubuntu forums is very helpful. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Tina K. wrote: If you want Ubuntu the installer is a few MB too big for a CD. There's a way in Terminal to overburn CD's so that they hold 800+MB instead of 700MB: http://chrisduran.eu/it/tips-and-tricks/how-to-overburn-a-cddvd-in-mac-os-x/ There's also an app for overburning CD's in OS X: http://download.cnet.com/FireStarter-FX/3000-2242_4-36895.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:21 PM, skinnie wrote: Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? I haven't installed Ubuntu on my Sawtooth yet. I have a G4 with two drives, one waiting for Ubuntu. What version did you install and where did you download it? Any pointers, warnings, helpful online resources? I just updated the Ubuntu install on my G4 to 10.04.1. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth with ubuntu?
On 1/19/11 1:21 PM, skinnie wrote: Hi guys,anyone here tried having ubuntu on a G4 450MHz sawtooth? Does it run flash well? Since you specifically requested info on Flash, you might check out Geexbox http://www.geexbox.org/ which is a tiny (Unix/Linux like) OS specifically designed to make your G4 a media player, also called HTPC (Home Theater PC) or MCA (Media Center Appliance). It will load from a thumb drive it's so small and portable. You can try out GeeXBox just loading it into RAM - which is what I did at first. This took roughly 20 minutes including the time to download the OS, burn it onto a CD and start it up on a G4. If you like it enough to install onto a hard drive, you may. Unfortunately work was suspended on this OS in 2007. For the same sort of HTPC/MCA thing but newer (as in still being updated) and as an add-on for your requested OS ubuntu, there is mythbuntu http://www.mythbuntu.org/ The later would probably be more what you are looking for. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
