Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
How about using an earlier, less resource-intensive verison of OSX? Mebbe
10.3 will be faster than 10.5.
Illirik Smirnov


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <
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>
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>>
>>  I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?
>>>
>>
>> Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection from my
>> G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the wrong word? and
>> thanks for the great comeback! Jeff
>>
>> If it is hard getting it to work smoothly via wifi the old sneakernet via
>> thumbdrive would be effective.
>>
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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

>
> On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
>  I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?
>>
>
> Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection from my
> G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the wrong word? and
> thanks for the great comeback! Jeff
>
> If it is hard getting it to work smoothly via wifi the old sneakernet via
> thumbdrive would be effective.
>


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread Jack and Karen Peters

At 10:03 AM -0700 6/14/2010, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?


Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection 
from my G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the 
wrong word? and thanks for the great comeback! Jeff


Are you watching images? I do this all time e from a G5 PM via 
wireless to a TiBook 500. But I mount the image on the TiBook.


Streaming -- a connection via IP to a server (another computer) 
running a real-time streaming software package.  Most often this uses 
http as the transport protocl.  The point is that the server software 
priorititzed so as to push the data at full speed.


Sounds like what you'all are doing is just feeding a player some sort 
of afp or smb or http url and hoping the general server daemon 
magically manages to push fast enough.


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:03 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?


Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection  
from my G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming"  
the wrong word? and thanks for the great comeback! Jeff


Are you watching images? I do this all time e from a G5 PM via  
wireless to a TiBook 500. But I mount the image on the TiBook.




John, mounting the image is a sweet way to go, if it's not an  
iTunes store purchase I've bought a lot of iTunes movies and  
iTunes is the only way to play them... acually VLC player works the  
best for playing movies on another mac, the itunes content is where  
I run into difficulty. Jeff



Never used iTunes stuff. But had difficuties playing MP4s in iTunes  
so gave it up.


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:03 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?


Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection  
from my G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the  
wrong word? and thanks for the great comeback! Jeff


Are you watching images? I do this all time e from a G5 PM via  
wireless to a TiBook 500. But I mount the image on the TiBook.




John, mounting the image is a sweet way to go, if it's not an iTunes  
store purchase I've bought a lot of iTunes movies and iTunes is  
the only way to play them... acually VLC player works the best for  
playing movies on another mac, the itunes content is where I run into  
difficulty. Jeff


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?


Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection  
from my G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the  
wrong word? and thanks for the great comeback! Jeff


Are you watching images? I do this all time e from a G5 PM via  
wireless to a TiBook 500. But I mount the image on the TiBook.


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?


Kris, by "streaming" I mean watching a movie via wi-fi connection from  
my G5 in the other room via 802.11.n 5ghz. Is "streaming" the wrong  
word? and thanks for the great comeback! Jeff


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-14 Thread Kris Tilford

I'm not clear on what you mean by "stream" movies?

I have a very similar setup, an overclocked 1.58 GHz G4 Mini w/10.4.11  
& 1GB RAM attached to 42" Samsung LCD TV attached to an 802.11n Time  
Machine. I can "stream" wirelessly movies that are stored on my G5 as  
MOV, MPEG, or other common video file formats over 802.11n wireless  
and they play fine on the TV played by the G4 Mini. I also have cable  
modem internet which is connected to the Time Machine and directly  
wired to the Mini over gigabit ethernet, but I still can't get smooth  
video of most "streamed" internet video.


I think it's likely you're talking about "streaming" as in "Flash  
video content" that is nearly ubiquitous on the web? If this is the  
case, about all you can do is hope and pray that Adobe optimizes Flash  
for better Mac performance. I can't see this happening any time soon  
for our now abandoned PPC hardware, so the best you can do is make  
sure you have the latest Flash plugin version 10.1.53.64 (check your  
version at: ). I don't  
think the G4 Mini will ever be powerful enough for streaming Flash  
video, which is one reason it's not on the iPhone or iPad. Any PC will  
play Flash video fine, so consider using a cheapie PC for streaming  
Flash if you absolutely need it. On the Mac side, even my dual 2.3 G5  
struggles with Flash, so you'd likely need something very powerful for  
smooth streaming Flash on an LCD TV at full screen resolutions.


As I've harped before, Leopard is a 15-20% drag on any PPC Mac  
compared to Tiger, so you've already got a drag on the System. Second,  
if this truly a "first generation" Mini (1.25 GHz) it's probably not  
fast enough to begin with, my 1.58 GHz is "just barely" fast enough,  
and I'm ready to upgrade ASAP because it's often using 100% CPU to  
display video at 1680x1050. I'd advise you to downgrade to Tiger if  
possible to get maximum horsepower out of a G4 Mini (warning: Tiger &  
Leopard offer DIFFERENT combinations of resolution/refresh rates on my  
G4 Mini w/32MB Radeon 9200, so you may not be able to get the correct  
resolution/refresh rate for your TV. I think it's really strange these  
change between Tiger & Leopard, but they do).







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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE




Lightening processor load will certainly help.




I have a couple of 500 MHz machines I like to play DVDs on and if I  
have the Mail on each incoming causes a glitch so you need all the  
processor you can get.
You should be able to play images with the Mini in fine fashion  
though. Also I use an Ethernet wireless n bridge on my Cubes because  
it's faster than AirPort b card.



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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Jeffrey Engle   
wrote:


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:38 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

I watch movies on my wireless network by mounting the image that's  
stored on a remote machine. It works good for me. The streaming  
takes a lot of processor. But that's just how I see it.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800


was trying to get away with a mini and a remote control / front  
row. VLC seemed to work better for some things but not with  
purchased content from apple.
If I "slim" down the system by trashing apps and running processes,  
that should help? maybe? Jeff


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Lightening processor load will certainly help.


Adrian's got it here.
Turn off everything except the video stuff and it'll help,  
Everything! AFAIK my latest project machine in this catagory is a G4  
Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor and 1.5 GB RAM and it just  
squeeks by on a good amount of streamed stuff but by no means all and  
it's kinda annoying But it plays images super and great sound.


JOHN CARMONNE
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From TiBook 800

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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

>
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:38 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:
>
> I watch movies on my wireless network by mounting the image that's stored
> on a remote machine. It works good for me. The streaming takes a lot of
> processor. But that's just how I see it.
>
> JOHN CARMONNE
> Yorba Linda USA
> From TiBook 800
>
>
> was trying to get away with a mini and a remote control / front row.
> VLC seemed to work better for some things but not with purchased content
> from apple.
> If I "slim" down the system by trashing apps and running processes, that
> should help? maybe? Jeff
>
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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

> leopard?
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>>
>>
>> Enough memory allocation to the app?
>>
>> How do I do this?
>> _
>>
>
>
> Look here;
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
> http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
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too much hurry to check the page.

The Snow Leopard i use is on locked down systems at the university so I
don't get to play with the config.

To bad about losing memory RAM allocation from any OS . a step back to
earlier Winblows daze IMO. Dynamic allocation is user unfriendly.




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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:38 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

I watch movies on my wireless network by mounting the image that's  
stored on a remote machine. It works good for me. The streaming  
takes a lot of processor. But that's just how I see it.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800


was trying to get away with a mini and a remote control / front  
row. VLC seemed to work better for some things but not with  
purchased content from apple.
If I "slim" down the system by trashing apps and running processes,  
that should help? maybe? Jeff


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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:29 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Jeffrey Engle  
 wrote:
I didn't think so... OS9.2 I could though?... well that answers  
that question. Jeff
I watch movies on my wireless network by mounting the image that's  
stored on a remote machine. It works good for me. The streaming takes  
a lot of processor. But that's just how I see it.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800




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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Jeffrey Engle   
wrote:
I didn't think so... OS9.2 I could though?... well that answers  
that question. Jeff


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:16 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

Enough memory allocation to the app?
 How do I do this?
you can't that's bogus info IMO.

JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800



Well John would know and everyone knows he is unbiased when it  
comes to any communication from me.


Still I say Apple will teach you;

Try ;
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666

Let us know how it works out.


Wally the man has Leopard!! not OS 9

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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

> I didn't think so... OS9.2 I could though?... well that answers that
> question. Jeff
>
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:16 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:
>
>  Enough memory allocation to the app?

>>>  How do I do this?
>>>
>> you can't that's bogus info IMO.
>>
>> JOHN CARMONNE
>> Yorba Linda USA
>> From TiBook 800
>>
>
> 

Well John would know and everyone knows he is unbiased when it comes to any
communication from me.

Still I say Apple will teach you;

Try ;
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666

Let us know how it works out.




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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Engle

leopard?
On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Jeffrey Engle   
wrote:


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:



Enough memory allocation to the app?


How do I do this?
_


Look here;

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666



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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

I didn't think so... OS9.2 I could though?... well that answers  
that question. Jeff


AFAIK OS X takes care of this I just make sure with this type of  
operation I have the RAM maxed if I can, I find that the faster the  
processor the better, for me about 1.25 or better is around the bare  
minimum for the flicks.



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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

>
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
> Enough memory allocation to the app?
>
> How do I do this?
> _
>


Look here;

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21666



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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Engle
I didn't think so... OS9.2 I could though?... well that answers that  
question. Jeff

On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:16 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:


Enough memory allocation to the app?

 How do I do this?

you can't that's bogus info IMO.

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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Jeffrey Engle  
 wrote:
In the entertainment centermac mini (first gen) plugged into a  
new airport express (5ghz) 802.11n


on the wall 15ft away ... an Airport Extreme base station (5ghz)  
802.11n


in the office via ethernet to above airport extreme base station.


Now, in my mind this scenario should work like a charm using  
leopard 10.5.8/ frontrow on the mini? but when I try to stream a  
movie, it buffers to death making it impossible to view the movie.  
am I doing something wrong here? Jeff

-- __

Does the Mini play the stream well when hooked direct to cable  
source?

 Plays very well when hooked directly.


Enough RAM for the Mini to buffer?

 1 gb (max)


Background processes turned off or minimized ?

nothing else running (I think) need to do a bit of homework here.


Enough memory allocation to the app?

  How do I do this?

you can't that's bogus info IMO.

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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Jeffrey Engle   
wrote:
In the entertainment centermac mini (first gen) plugged into a  
new airport express (5ghz) 802.11n


on the wall 15ft away ... an Airport Extreme base station (5ghz)  
802.11n


in the office via ethernet to above airport extreme base station.


Now, in my mind this scenario should work like a charm using leopard  
10.5.8/ frontrow on the mini? but when I try to stream a movie, it  
buffers to death making it impossible to view the movie. am I doing  
something wrong here? Jeff

-- __

Does the Mini play the stream well when hooked direct to cable source?

Plays very well when hooked directly.


Enough RAM for the Mini to buffer?

1 gb (max)


Background processes turned off or minimized ?

nothing else running (I think) need to do a bit of homework here.


Enough memory allocation to the app?

How do I do this?





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Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

> In the entertainment centermac mini (first gen) plugged into a new
> airport express (5ghz) 802.11n
>
> on the wall 15ft away ... an Airport Extreme base station (5ghz) 802.11n
>
> in the office via ethernet to above airport extreme base station.
>
>
> Now, in my mind this scenario should work like a charm using leopard
> 10.5.8/ frontrow on the mini? but when I try to stream a movie, it buffers
> to death making it impossible to view the movie. am I doing something wrong
> here? Jeff
>  -- __
>

Does the Mini play the stream well when hooked direct to cable source?

Enough RAM for the Mini to buffer?

Background processes turned off or minimized ?

Enough memory allocation to the app?




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stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Engle
In the entertainment centermac mini (first gen) plugged into a new  
airport express (5ghz) 802.11n


on the wall 15ft away ... an Airport Extreme base station (5ghz) 802.11n

in the office via ethernet to above airport extreme base station.


Now, in my mind this scenario should work like a charm using leopard  
10.5.8/ frontrow on the mini? but when I try to stream a movie, it  
buffers to death making it impossible to view the movie. am I doing  
something wrong here? Jeff 


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