DVD won't eject

2012-07-16 Thread gifutiger
Here is what you should read and Bookmark in case you.have this problem again.

http://www.macinminutes.co.uk/express_tips/ejecting_stuck_disc.html

It's called 16 Tips  on Ejecting a stuck Slot Loading DVD

Cheers

Harry

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OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread James Morgan

I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but 
just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get 
deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power 
button. In other words the computer has seized and there is no option but to kill 
the power. When I get the computer restarted I get a nice window offering to send a crash 
report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system).

Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the 
power button and restart? I operated this computer for years with other 
operating systems without a freeze or a seize or a crash. I'm thinking I wasted 
my money on OS 10.5. Anyone have any ideas that might be helpful here?
James Morgan

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran
 OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing
 this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your
 computer. hold down the power button.

This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an
unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both.

I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was
upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware
fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as
possible.

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread James Morgan

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and 
reinstall OS 10.4?
James Morgan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:


I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran
OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing
this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your
computer. hold down the power button.


This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an
unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both.

I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was
upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware
fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as
possible.

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and
 reinstall OS 10.4?

You could try, but more likely as not the problem will manifest there too.
It would allow the computer to at least be useable until you find out
what the glitch is.

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Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread t...@prismnet.com
What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under
10.4 or 10.5.   I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby,
RAMometer.

Also, what do folks recommend to test hard disk performance?

I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for
years with 1.5 GB of RAM.   I have a .5GB stick on hand I pulled from
a G4 Mini and I'd like to add it, but I'm concerned that I'll screw up
a good thing.  No reason for my suspicion, just paranoia.  So I want
to test the RAM after I add the odd stick.

Also, after a hard drive failure, I've finally installed a 6880M in
the machine, and configured it to boot off of mirrored volumes in OS9
and 10.4 and 10.5.   I'd like to compare the disk performance I'm
getting now, mirrored volumes on a 6880M, to what I was getting off of
singleton drives on the built-in bus.

If I've taken a small performance hit, it's worth it for the
redundancy.  But I had to jump through enough installation hoops to
get this working, that I want to confirm that it's not running at
something like 25% of what a drive on the built-in would run at.   I
haven't noticed any substantial performance hit, so it's probably
fine, but numbers are reassuring.

Thanks,

Jeff Walther

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Re: Power supply and fans keep running on AGP G4 450mhz tower after shutdown...

2012-07-16 Thread spilrules
Sorry for the slow reply, but I got called out on a job. The only non-stock 
PCI card would be the SCSI card: Orange Micro Grappler SCSI 906F Bios 
Version 1.30.
Cameron, you mentioned this is shutting down not sleep correct.  Upon 
closer inspection, I removed the screw holding in one of the hard drives 
and it is still running even after the computer appears to shut down. In 
other words the screen goes blank, yet the fans still run, HD's etc. so I 
guess it really isn't shut down. Now 
there is a new development as the computer will not boot up at all and only 
goes to a blank gray screen, no apple appears at all. Sometimes it goes to 
the old style Mac icon that blinks with a question mark as if it does not 
find the OS. The fans still continue to run as soon as the machine is 
plugged in and the little red light near the ram chips still lights up as 
before, however no boot at this time. It does chime, however about 5-6 
seconds after the start button is pushed, which seems to be longer than in 
the past when it was working fine. I cannot boot to a CD or DVD to try and 
run the utilities, nor will it boot to safe mode when starting with the 
shift key held down. If I boot it with the option button held down, it 
shows only one of the two hard drives, the one with OSX 10.4.11 and does 
not show the one with OS 9.2 however the cursor (mouse) does not move and 
stays stationary on the screen.  Now I am completely stumped and have no 
idea what to try next..any suggestions?


Em quarta-feira, 11 de julho de 2012 10h19min00s UTC-7, spilrules escreveu:

 I have a PPC G4 AGP graphics model, 450 mhz single processor with 2GB ram 
 running OS9.2.2 on a 120 GB Western Digital HD  OSX 10.4.11 on a 30GB 
 Maxtor HD.  When I shut the computer down (doesn't matter whether it is 
 running in OS9.2 or OSX) the fan in the power supply keeps running as does 
 the larger inside case fan, and a little red light near where the ram chips 
 are mounted stays lit, similarly to how it is lit when the machine is 
 running. It appears to shut down normally, and there is no signal output on 
 the screen, however the fans are still running.?  For now I have been 
 unplugging the machine when it is not in use to prevent the fans from 
 running constantly however I am wondering why this is happening and if it 
 is ok to just continue to unplug it when not using it?  As soon as I plug 
 the power cable back into the computer, the fans start running but it does 
 not boot up until I push the start button and it then boots up normally 
 into either OS/HD. If I don't push the start button, it would just sit 
 there with the fans running.  Is this a signal of an upcoming problem with 
 the PSU?  Any easy fix other than replacing the PSU?  

 So far I have tried: resetting the CUDA switch and the PRAM to no avail.  

 This machine runs a SCSI desktop drum scanner in our photo studio and is 
 not used too often.  It is one of two machines we have just in case one 
 fails however due to living in Brasil at this time, and the fact that these 
 older parts are not easy to come by down here, I am hopeful to solve this 
 issue ahead of a more disastrous result .  Also, because it is not used 
 frequently, it is not an option for me to keep the machine running at all 
 times.

 Any help is greatly appreciated!
 Thanks,
 Tom



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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive  
and

reinstall OS 10.4?



FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades.

John Carmonne
Placentia CA 92870
From iMac Core Duo 2.0





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Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:37 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote:


What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under
10.4 or 10.5.   I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby,
RAMometer.






I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for
years with 1.5 GB of RAM.   I have a .5GB stick on hand I pulled from
a G4 Mini and I'd like to add it, but I'm concerned that I'll screw up
a good thing.  No reason for my suspicion, just paranoia.  So I want
to test the RAM after I add the odd stick.



MemTest is free and works best for me.


Also, after a hard drive failure, I've finally installed a 6880M in
the machine, and configured it to boot off of mirrored volumes in OS9
and 10.4 and 10.5.   I'd like to compare the disk performance I'm
getting now, mirrored volumes on a 6880M, to what I was getting off of
singleton drives on the built-in bus.



Drive Genius is my favorite for this and also DiskWarrior can find  
errors.



If I've taken a small performance hit, it's worth it for the
redundancy.  But I had to jump through enough installation hoops to
get this working, that I want to confirm that it's not running at
something like 25% of what a drive on the built-in would run at.   I
haven't noticed any substantial performance hit, so it's probably
fine, but numbers are reassuring.



I use Carbon Copy Cloner's timer to check drive speeds between various  
ports.




Thanks,

Jeff Walther





John Carmonne
Placentia CA 92870
From iMac Core Duo 2.0








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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread James Morgan

I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. 
Thanks for the suggestion.  I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I 
was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is 
Diskwarrior sufficient?
James Morgan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote:


On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive 
and

reinstall OS 10.4?



FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades.

John Carmonne
Placentia CA 92870

From iMac Core Duo 2.0






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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Dan

At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote:
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long 
time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 
10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages 
saying you need to restart your computer.

[snip]
Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold 
down the power button and restart?


As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic.

Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. 
Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the 
panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the 
exact problem.


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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread John Carmonne

On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote:

 I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a 
 try. Thanks for the suggestion.  I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago 
 when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is 
 Diskwarrior sufficient?
 James Morgan

DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than 
disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can 
be the fix or a combination of the two.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:39 PM, James Morgan wrote:

I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if  
they care about an older operating system).


If you look at this report, you'll see what the reason for the panic  
is, and might possibly be able to suss out the cause.


All of these panics are kept in the system log files, and you can look  
at them using Console under Log files/Library/LogsPanicReporter. In  
PanicReporter you'll want to find the line that says: Kernel loadable  
modules in backtrace and then the next line will show you what the  
likely cause for the panic was.


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Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread Peter Devlin
On 16/07/2012 03:37, t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com wrote:

 What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under
 10.4 or 10.5.   I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby,
 RAMometer.

I use Memtest on my dual 1.25 MDD with 2 GB of ram and 10.5.8 - although
the 2 GB is slightly more than my Memtest can cope with it's easy to test 1
GB at a time - takes about 2 hours for a full test.

Pete


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