DVD won't eject
Here is what you should read and Bookmark in case you.have this problem again. http://www.macinminutes.co.uk/express_tips/ejecting_stuck_disc.html It's called 16 Tips on Ejecting a stuck Slot Loading DVD Cheers Harry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. In other words the computer has seized and there is no option but to kill the power. When I get the computer restarted I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? I operated this computer for years with other operating systems without a freeze or a seize or a crash. I'm thinking I wasted my money on OS 10.5. Anyone have any ideas that might be helpful here? James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? You could try, but more likely as not the problem will manifest there too. It would allow the computer to at least be useable until you find out what the glitch is. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -- Socrates --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5
What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. Also, what do folks recommend to test hard disk performance? I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for years with 1.5 GB of RAM. I have a .5GB stick on hand I pulled from a G4 Mini and I'd like to add it, but I'm concerned that I'll screw up a good thing. No reason for my suspicion, just paranoia. So I want to test the RAM after I add the odd stick. Also, after a hard drive failure, I've finally installed a 6880M in the machine, and configured it to boot off of mirrored volumes in OS9 and 10.4 and 10.5. I'd like to compare the disk performance I'm getting now, mirrored volumes on a 6880M, to what I was getting off of singleton drives on the built-in bus. If I've taken a small performance hit, it's worth it for the redundancy. But I had to jump through enough installation hoops to get this working, that I want to confirm that it's not running at something like 25% of what a drive on the built-in would run at. I haven't noticed any substantial performance hit, so it's probably fine, but numbers are reassuring. Thanks, Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power supply and fans keep running on AGP G4 450mhz tower after shutdown...
Sorry for the slow reply, but I got called out on a job. The only non-stock PCI card would be the SCSI card: Orange Micro Grappler SCSI 906F Bios Version 1.30. Cameron, you mentioned this is shutting down not sleep correct. Upon closer inspection, I removed the screw holding in one of the hard drives and it is still running even after the computer appears to shut down. In other words the screen goes blank, yet the fans still run, HD's etc. so I guess it really isn't shut down. Now there is a new development as the computer will not boot up at all and only goes to a blank gray screen, no apple appears at all. Sometimes it goes to the old style Mac icon that blinks with a question mark as if it does not find the OS. The fans still continue to run as soon as the machine is plugged in and the little red light near the ram chips still lights up as before, however no boot at this time. It does chime, however about 5-6 seconds after the start button is pushed, which seems to be longer than in the past when it was working fine. I cannot boot to a CD or DVD to try and run the utilities, nor will it boot to safe mode when starting with the shift key held down. If I boot it with the option button held down, it shows only one of the two hard drives, the one with OSX 10.4.11 and does not show the one with OS 9.2 however the cursor (mouse) does not move and stays stationary on the screen. Now I am completely stumped and have no idea what to try next..any suggestions? Em quarta-feira, 11 de julho de 2012 10h19min00s UTC-7, spilrules escreveu: I have a PPC G4 AGP graphics model, 450 mhz single processor with 2GB ram running OS9.2.2 on a 120 GB Western Digital HD OSX 10.4.11 on a 30GB Maxtor HD. When I shut the computer down (doesn't matter whether it is running in OS9.2 or OSX) the fan in the power supply keeps running as does the larger inside case fan, and a little red light near where the ram chips are mounted stays lit, similarly to how it is lit when the machine is running. It appears to shut down normally, and there is no signal output on the screen, however the fans are still running.? For now I have been unplugging the machine when it is not in use to prevent the fans from running constantly however I am wondering why this is happening and if it is ok to just continue to unplug it when not using it? As soon as I plug the power cable back into the computer, the fans start running but it does not boot up until I push the start button and it then boots up normally into either OS/HD. If I don't push the start button, it would just sit there with the fans running. Is this a signal of an upcoming problem with the PSU? Any easy fix other than replacing the PSU? So far I have tried: resetting the CUDA switch and the PRAM to no avail. This machine runs a SCSI desktop drum scanner in our photo studio and is not used too often. It is one of two machines we have just in case one fails however due to living in Brasil at this time, and the fact that these older parts are not easy to come by down here, I am hopeful to solve this issue ahead of a more disastrous result . Also, because it is not used frequently, it is not an option for me to keep the machine running at all times. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5
On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:37 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for years with 1.5 GB of RAM. I have a .5GB stick on hand I pulled from a G4 Mini and I'd like to add it, but I'm concerned that I'll screw up a good thing. No reason for my suspicion, just paranoia. So I want to test the RAM after I add the odd stick. MemTest is free and works best for me. Also, after a hard drive failure, I've finally installed a 6880M in the machine, and configured it to boot off of mirrored volumes in OS9 and 10.4 and 10.5. I'd like to compare the disk performance I'm getting now, mirrored volumes on a 6880M, to what I was getting off of singleton drives on the built-in bus. Drive Genius is my favorite for this and also DiskWarrior can find errors. If I've taken a small performance hit, it's worth it for the redundancy. But I had to jump through enough installation hoops to get this working, that I want to confirm that it's not running at something like 25% of what a drive on the built-in would run at. I haven't noticed any substantial performance hit, so it's probably fine, but numbers are reassuring. I use Carbon Copy Cloner's timer to check drive speeds between various ports. Thanks, Jeff Walther John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. [snip] Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic. Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the exact problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote: I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can be the fix or a combination of the two. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:39 PM, James Morgan wrote: I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). If you look at this report, you'll see what the reason for the panic is, and might possibly be able to suss out the cause. All of these panics are kept in the system log files, and you can look at them using Console under Log files/Library/LogsPanicReporter. In PanicReporter you'll want to find the line that says: Kernel loadable modules in backtrace and then the next line will show you what the likely cause for the panic was. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5
On 16/07/2012 03:37, t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I use Memtest on my dual 1.25 MDD with 2 GB of ram and 10.5.8 - although the 2 GB is slightly more than my Memtest can cope with it's easy to test 1 GB at a time - takes about 2 hours for a full test. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list