[Audyssey] FWD: Interest in your Helpful Resources
Hello Jim, my name is Marci. I am contacting you because we work with a teacher of the Visually impaired who has written books featuring Abby diamond, a young blind detective who solves mysteries. We would like to create an interactive game which can be enjoyed by blind and sighted students at all academic levels. What steps can be taken to have a qualified person from your staff meet with us to make this game a reality? What referrals can you provide us with to assist us in the further exploration of the Abby Diamond's Schools of Schools interactive game possibility? Thank you for your consideration of our message and please let us hear from you. Marci Lopez, Christal Vision Inc. E-mail: mailto:marci.smi...@gmail.com marci.smi...@gmail.com Ofice: (469) 522-1803 Mobile: (214) 732-5788 San Antonio Fax: (210) 662-7559 Office: (800) 299-0700 **Be mindful that happiness isn't based on possessions, power, or prestige, but on relationships with people we like and respect.** Learn more about our blindness and low vision products. Visit our web sites. http://www.christalvision.com www.christalvision.com http://www.lowvisiongear.com www.lowvisiongear.com Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FWD: Interest in your Helpful Resources
It's always good to see people trying to bring accessible gaming into the classroom. Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Jim. I hope these people get the help and advice they're looking for. On 10/14/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hello Jim, my name is Marci. I am contacting you because we work with a teacher of the Visually impaired who has written books featuring Abby diamond, a young blind detective who solves mysteries. We would like to create an interactive game which can be enjoyed by blind and sighted students at all academic levels. What steps can be taken to have a qualified person from your staff meet with us to make this game a reality? What referrals can you provide us with to assist us in the further exploration of the Abby Diamond's Schools of Schools interactive game possibility? Thank you for your consideration of our message and please let us hear from you. Marci Lopez, Christal Vision Inc. E-mail: mailto:marci.smi...@gmail.com marci.smi...@gmail.com Ofice: (469) 522-1803 Mobile: (214) 732-5788 San Antonio Fax: (210) 662-7559 Office: (800) 299-0700 **Be mindful that happiness isn't based on possessions, power, or prestige, but on relationships with people we like and respect.** Learn more about our blindness and low vision products. Visit our web sites. http://www.christalvision.com www.christalvision.com http://www.lowvisiongear.com www.lowvisiongear.com Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Michael Feir Volunteer at The Dam http://www.thedam.org 2011-- Owner of Silver Smiles Join and share the silver lining in your life. Group homepage: http://groups.google.com/group/silver-smiles 2010-- Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/personal-power.html A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FWD: Interest in your Helpful Resources
Hi, Hmmm...Not sure, but the message you posted didn't specifically say graphics. All it said is that the game had to be playable by blind and sighted players. There are non-graphical methods such as speech and text which could achieve that same result. On 10/14/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Michael, Yes, I was hoping that since I myself can not do graphics etc that maybe Jeremy, Eleanor, Dark or some one that can, might be able to take up the project. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce
And I've finally managed to pay off my debt! Now to finish exploring tet I'm glad to say that since I left ce all those months ago nobody has attempted to explore or complete exploring it. am still the chief explorer! I have less than 20% to go before I get my achievement! I started it in feb this year it had already been explored up to 30% or so, so I continued on and became the chief explorer. I left ce about 3 months ago and it was at around 80% done then, that's me exploring every day with an explorer 2 pod so I had 80 explorations per day which I still have. So you can imagine how many hundred million credits I've spent on this although am able to offset this a little by crafting some adv exploration kits. Which of course goes into faction xp as well. The question is though after I've finished what has become a pet project of mine with the only real return of investment being personal satisfaction which I shall enjoy knowing that I've paved the way for yet another landing place for our exiles, what to do then. Raise enough capital to start off a set somewhere? It's certainly a thought. Or before I do that, buy myself outright a monitor ship which I must say I do rather like the look of! Since I've come back to ce I've been somewhat forward planning things whilst trying to complete this little project of mine. Right now am making money from combat and selling the loot on the gbm whilst using extractors to get the core materials I need to make the various components to craft the adv kits. There's other stuff I need as well but I get those from a lot of combat loot. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Harris Sent: 03 October 2011 21:33 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Yeah I so wana get into that, it's meant to be even better than planetary exploration and I really did enjoy that! Yup I got all the extractor set, plus 5 deep core heavy mk2's, they really aren't bad. The 1 thing I want is to amass so much resource that I can just sell a ton of it off and pay off this debt with a bit to spare. With the screen reader topic you put up, what do you think of my responses to it so far? Reasonable? Unreasonable? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 20:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Well as I said I was actually upgrading extractors anyway. I've now got the full set of industrials accept for mineral and I should have that fairly soon, and I've got five hestia mining drones that I can send out as soon as I get another 100 k xp and reach level 35, so the situation there is rapidly sorting itself out. btw, derelict exploration is cool! like rpg style mazes, i deffinately hope I can get more of the stuff to do it. beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure, I just lost all my indi extractors and my mining drones so I wanted them all back basically. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 14:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Ah, that makes sense, though personally that's why I avoid lones, i prefer to be free to do my own thing even if there is something good in it imediately, --- -something I do in real life too ;D. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure. I'm just focusing on getting this debt paid off first then after that I'll consider myself free to do as I wish if you know what I mean. Not that there's a deadline there isn't the player in question knows me and knows I'll honour the agreement, which really is the point I suppose. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 06:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce That is true, especially with furnice, but I do tend to like to alternate what I do so that things keep interesting. That's actually one thing I rather like about the game, how much there is to do, which insures even with some of the slower activities you never get board. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce
[Audyssey] Game Creation Tools
Hi Thomas, I don't think the community needs an automated game tool editor. Such an idea is very appealing at first sight, but as Philip rightly pointed out, there is no way to perform extensive tasks on it. I think what is much more needed is actually further extensive tutorials on gaming, since it's one thing knowing how the functions in BGT and other scriptable engines work, like I do, but it's another converting and conceptualising an idea to code. Mapping, object creation, level building and artificial intelligence are four of my worst enemies when it comes to coding games, since I am having to work purely off experimentation, only to find it is having to get deleted for the simple reason that I have broken not only my experiments, but also what once valid and working code as well, since all of the objects and functions need to be able to interact with one another. I have lots of ideas for extremely complicated games, and other than the sky-high budget that would be required to buy actors, sounds and music, I wouldn't know where to start with such advanced concepts. Even though I have had various talks with others about it, I still can't get them to sink in and actually put it down as fully working code. Regards, Kristen Eisenberg Billige Flüge Marketing GmbH Emanuelstr. 3, 10317 Berlin Deutschland Telefon: +49 (33) 5310967 Email: utebachmeier at gmail.com Site: http://flug.airego.de - Billige Flüge vergleichen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce
Yes, derelict exploration is awsome, actually like an rpg dungeon in space. I got the basic gear from svens' then Talking on in game chat I got someone to craft me the docking collar and scanner, at a very good price (I paid 85 K each). The really nice thing is all the schematics and stuff to get better at derelict exploration you get by exploring! which means the more you do, the more you can do in the future. As to access well I agree on the forum, it's just those last few images that need fixing I think, and maybe a couple of tweaks. Hopefully these can be fixed soon. Beware the grue! Dark. Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Yeah I so wana get into that, it's meant to be even better than planetary exploration and I really did enjoy that! Yup I got all the extractor set, plus 5 deep core heavy mk2's, they really aren't bad. The 1 thing I want is to amass so much resource that I can just sell a ton of it off and pay off this debt with a bit to spare. With the screen reader topic you put up, what do you think of my responses to it so far? Reasonable? Unreasonable? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 20:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Well as I said I was actually upgrading extractors anyway. I've now got the full set of industrials accept for mineral and I should have that fairly soon, and I've got five hestia mining drones that I can send out as soon as I get another 100 k xp and reach level 35, so the situation there is rapidly sorting itself out. btw, derelict exploration is cool! like rpg style mazes, i deffinately hope I can get more of the stuff to do it. beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure, I just lost all my indi extractors and my mining drones so I wanted them all back basically. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 14:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Ah, that makes sense, though personally that's why I avoid lones, i prefer to be free to do my own thing even if there is something good in it imediately, --- -something I do in real life too ;D. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure. I'm just focusing on getting this debt paid off first then after that I'll consider myself free to do as I wish if you know what I mean. Not that there's a deadline there isn't the player in question knows me and knows I'll honour the agreement, which really is the point I suppose. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 06:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce That is true, especially with furnice, but I do tend to like to alternate what I do so that things keep interesting. That's actually one thing I rather like about the game, how much there is to do, which insures even with some of the slower activities you never get board. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh yeah there are various ways of achieving the same thingccthe thing is that hauling and passenger runs are easy money. Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2011, at 21:26, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Fair enough. I suppose I don't tend to run out because I alternate what I do. I'll do some passenger and cargo hauling, then I'll try a mining mission, then I'll do some combat and planetary exploration. That's I think one of the main things about the game, you really have a choice of activities. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce True, the reason why I like doing it is if I want to use a ton of fuel on passenger and hauling runs. Then I can just keep going and going. I may have to do this a couple times just to get myself financially afloat. But the great thing is that on the whole there's no real definite right or wrong ways of doing things in the game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 02 October
Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce
I am assuming we are talking about core exile. HOw easy is it to learn to play Can someone tell me the best way to learn? On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Darren Harris wrote: Yeah I so wana get into that, it's meant to be even better than planetary exploration and I really did enjoy that! Yup I got all the extractor set, plus 5 deep core heavy mk2's, they really aren't bad. The 1 thing I want is to amass so much resource that I can just sell a ton of it off and pay off this debt with a bit to spare. With the screen reader topic you put up, what do you think of my responses to it so far? Reasonable? Unreasonable? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 20:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Well as I said I was actually upgrading extractors anyway. I've now got the full set of industrials accept for mineral and I should have that fairly soon, and I've got five hestia mining drones that I can send out as soon as I get another 100 k xp and reach level 35, so the situation there is rapidly sorting itself out. btw, derelict exploration is cool! like rpg style mazes, i deffinately hope I can get more of the stuff to do it. beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure, I just lost all my indi extractors and my mining drones so I wanted them all back basically. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 14:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Ah, that makes sense, though personally that's why I avoid lones, i prefer to be free to do my own thing even if there is something good in it imediately, --- -something I do in real life too ;D. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh for sure. I'm just focusing on getting this debt paid off first then after that I'll consider myself free to do as I wish if you know what I mean. Not that there's a deadline there isn't the player in question knows me and knows I'll honour the agreement, which really is the point I suppose. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 03 October 2011 06:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce That is true, especially with furnice, but I do tend to like to alternate what I do so that things keep interesting. That's actually one thing I rather like about the game, how much there is to do, which insures even with some of the slower activities you never get board. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce Oh yeah there are various ways of achieving the same thingccthe thing is that hauling and passenger runs are easy money. Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2011, at 21:26, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Fair enough. I suppose I don't tend to run out because I alternate what I do. I'll do some passenger and cargo hauling, then I'll try a mining mission, then I'll do some combat and planetary exploration. That's I think one of the main things about the game, you really have a choice of activities. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce True, the reason why I like doing it is if I want to use a ton of fuel on passenger and hauling runs. Then I can just keep going and going. I may have to do this a couple times just to get myself financially afloat. But the great thing is that on the whole there's no real definite right or wrong ways of doing things in the game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 02 October 2011 11:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to ce As I said, I never bothered with the transfer device, sinse i just didn't see the point in stockpiling fuil sinse betwene the level five engine and premium account I would have to work pretty hard to run out. This sutes me very well, it means that practically speaking fuel is
Re: [Audyssey] Game Creation Tools
Hi Kristen, I'm not sure what you are making reference to, but I've personally never been in favor of automated editors/development tools. So I'm not quite sure where you got that idea from. If you are talking about my Genesis 3D Engine it is not an automated editor/development tool. It is a series of static libraries that get compiled into a C++ game project to provide low-level support for things like audio, speech, game input, as well as base classes for creating common object types such as people, places, and things in the game world. It all requires a fair amount of coding and a fairly extensive amount of C/C++ to use. What the engine does for me is cuts down the amount of coding I have to rewrite again and again by precompiling the core functions and wrapper classes into class libraries that can just be plugged in and used immediately as is. That is not automation, but just a moduler design where I can reuse some of the same code over and over again without modification. Now, what I may do in the future is something like BGT where I compile it into a toolkit which allows you, the end user, to code things using a scripting language. Again, though, that wouldn't be automated but just make it easier to program by using a scripting language like Python instead of full blown C++. Make sense? HTH On 10/10/11, Kristen Eisenberg kristen.eisenb...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Thomas, I don't think the community needs an automated game tool editor. Such an idea is very appealing at first sight, but as Philip rightly pointed out, there is no way to perform extensive tasks on it. I think what is much more needed is actually further extensive tutorials on gaming, since it's one thing knowing how the functions in BGT and other scriptable engines work, like I do, but it's another converting and conceptualising an idea to code. Mapping, object creation, level building and artificial intelligence are four of my worst enemies when it comes to coding games, since I am having to work purely off experimentation, only to find it is having to get deleted for the simple reason that I have broken not only my experiments, but also what once valid and working code as well, since all of the objects and functions need to be able to interact with one another. I have lots of ideas for extremely complicated games, and other than the sky-high budget that would be required to buy actors, sounds and music, I wouldn't know where to start with such advanced concepts. Even though I have had various talks with others about it, I still can't get them to sink in and actually put it down as fully working code. Regards, Kristen Eisenberg Billige Flüge Marketing GmbH Emanuelstr. 3, 10317 Berlin Deutschland Telefon: +49 (33) 5310967 Email: utebachmeier at gmail.com Site: http://flug.airego.de - Billige Flüge vergleichen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Looking for the name of accessible wrestling game
Ok, not usre of the current names of the wrestling game or games out there. Starting to do some Jaws scripting on a DOS wrestling game. I don't want to be recreating thge wheel. So, if nay one knows of a DOS wrestling game accessible for the bliknd, please reply to this message or email off list at: gary...@cableone.net Gary --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] FWD: Interest in your Helpful Resources
Hi Thomas, Right! at least text, as I have found that sighted folks really do not like playing my games that put nothing on the screen and rely soly on sounds and speech. But even better than some text might be graphics like Jeremy, Eleanor, etc can add to a game, I think is what they might be looking for. BFN - Original Message - Hi, Hmmm...Not sure, but the message you posted didn't specifically say graphics. All it said is that the game had to be playable by blind and sighted players. There are non-graphical methods such as speech and text which could achieve that same result. On 10/14/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Michael, Yes, I was hoping that since I myself can not do graphics etc that maybe Jeremy, Eleanor, Dark or some one that can, might be able to take up the project. --- Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
