Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
Hi Shaun, I'm afraid not. Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform with any screen reader unless you install a Dos screen reader and hardware synth into Dosbox. The only way to run Dos programs on Linux with any degree of access is Dosemu passing it a couple of switches to run it as a dum terminal which also disables sounds in the process. On 6/18/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. is dosbox accessable under linux? I have vinux here on a vm and have dosemu loaded but I just wandered if dosbox was accessable at all in linux. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go ahead as they still belong to PCS games as far as I am concerned. Cheers! On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: This is a huge huge shame. But that's what happens when we up grade to try and stay up with the times. Now to bad we can't convirt these old classics to the windows platforms. Now I know there's some knowledgable people on this list that would know how to convert them. Any takers? Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Ron, No. Something you need to understand is that newer 64-bit processors and 64-bit operating systems such as Windows 7 are not able to execute 8-bit and 16-bit programs without some virtual emulation layer like Dosbox, Dosemu, etc. So unfortunately these games are out of the question. On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Will these games work with win 7 in the 64 bit world? I remember the shootting gallary. But what is the cops game and how is it played? Many Many Thanks Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, As far as I know there is no laptop layout for Speakup. The only way to get one or create one is by editing the hex codes for your keyboard map file, and recompiling the kernel which is probably more work than you want to do in order to have a keyboard map file that uses the capslock key or something like that as a modifier key for Speakup. Besides that why not just use Orca with Dosemu in a terminal window so you can use Orca's laptop keyboard screen review commands? On 6/18/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] TV baseball broadcasts - Re: nfl football and baseball
hI there Yes I do agry with that. I think that the Radio is a better way to follow baseball, but I always did think that. Even be for I went blind. bfn James -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] TV baseball broadcasts - Re: nfl football and baseball On TV, baseball games are far worse than football. They don't give the count often enough for you to know what's going on, they don't tell the result when you hear the crack of the bat. They might give a player's name and say, Out! or What a throw! or something like that. And before going to a commercial during a pitching change or at the end of a half of an inning, they don't give the number of runs, hits, errors, and men on base, nor do they give the score. Yet, during the game, they give all of the batter's stats, they point out how he holds the bat, his batting stance, and stuff for people to work on to improve their own play. They point out the pitcher's motion, how he releases the ball, and all that stuff but don't describe the game action. Radio play by play with commentary is far superior. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] nfl football and baseball Hi Thomas, Yeah, I just put those comments in my football game to make fun of the network game commentators that do just go off on tangents and forget to even talk about the game. Don't think that it is as bad with baseball games. But really since now the Browns games and some of the Indians games are on WMMS I don't even listen to the football games on the TV. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? On 6/19/2013 4:04 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, I'm afraid not. Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform with any screen reader unless you install a Dos screen reader and hardware synth into Dosbox. The only way to run Dos programs on Linux with any degree of access is Dosemu passing it a couple of switches to run it as a dum terminal which also disables sounds in the process. On 6/18/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. is dosbox accessable under linux? I have vinux here on a vm and have dosemu loaded but I just wandered if dosbox was accessable at all in linux. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
plans for any night football thomas? On 6/19/2013 7:19 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go ahead as they still belong to PCS games as far as I am concerned. Cheers! On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: This is a huge huge shame. But that's what happens when we up grade to try and stay up with the times. Now to bad we can't convirt these old classics to the windows platforms. Now I know there's some knowledgable people on this list that would know how to convert them. Any takers? Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
well perhaps if jim kitchen took some ideas for his next nfl football game from the any night football read-me file added more plays and things that would be cool. but of course its jim's game and if he did add more plays using ideas from any night football it would be fun also because he could make the plays how he wanted them. though it would be cool to have two player mode in the nfl game like any night football has it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
well since there is no laptop keyboard layout i'll be using orca with it then. On 6/19/2013 7:29 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, As far as I know there is no laptop layout for Speakup. The only way to get one or create one is by editing the hex codes for your keyboard map file, and recompiling the kernel which is probably more work than you want to do in order to have a keyboard map file that uses the capslock key or something like that as a modifier key for Speakup. Besides that why not just use Orca with Dosemu in a terminal window so you can use Orca's laptop keyboard screen review commands? On 6/18/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, That's about the size of it. :D On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
ok i'll do that then. my friend jason has a windows xp vm i can use and get from him. On 6/19/2013 11:10 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, Well, I can't speak for Jim, but I can say I've been thinking of a football game similar to Any Night Football myself. While I like Jim's football game well enough it doesn't offer enough plays to suit me, and the artificial intelligence does make some really dumb plays from time to time. For example, I was playing this one game one time when the artificial intelligence made the dumbest play I have ever seen in a game. The computers team was third down, 15 yards to go, and was sitting on its 3 yard line. In that type of no win situation the best play would be just to punt the ball and cut your losses. The idiot quarterback decides to go for a long pass, a long shot, I sack the quarter back, and I pick up 2 points on a safety because they got sacked into the end zone. Like how stupid can you get? As I said I like Jim's football game well enough, but it is stupid calls like that which makes me long for a smarter computer player. One that realizes when it is backed against a wall, and makes more intelligent plays than those I've seen in Jim's football game. There has been a couple of times I won every game of the season including the Superbowl just because the artificial intelligence isn't up to the task of beating me apparently. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: well perhaps if jim kitchen took some ideas for his next nfl football game from the any night football read-me file added more plays and things that would be cool. but of course its jim's game and if he did add more plays using ideas from any night football it would be fun also because he could make the plays how he wanted them. though it would be cool to have two player mode in the nfl game like any night football has it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
i think all you'll need is a windows xp home vm. and i think xp home is no longer supported anyway. but i could be wrong. On 6/19/2013 11:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, Well, not using that name exactly, but I had something like Any Night Football in mind for a while now. Obviously, if I wrote it the game would be called USA Football. :D On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: plans for any night football thomas? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
Hi Lenron, That is a bit more complicated than I can discuss at any length in this email, but the basic idea is this. You download a free copy of VMWare Player for your platform from http://www.vmware.com, register it, and then you take your old Windows XP CD and install it into VMWare Player. This will obviously require a little sighted assistance with the initial setup, but once you create a virtual machine you can zip it up and back it up on an external drive or something in case you need to reinstall your machine. Once create to start XP simply click on the VMWare player icon on your desktop or Start Menu, select the Windows XP virtual machine from the list, and click the button to start it. Cheers! On 6/19/13, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: how can i get an xp vm --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
Hi Josh, Actually, I believe XP Home is supported until April 2014. However, as I have XP Pro, not Home in a virtual machine, I'm not sure about Home's support status. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: i think all you'll need is a windows xp home vm. and i think xp home is no longer supported anyway. but i could be wrong. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
i guess until then i'll play any night football in a windows xp vm. On 6/19/2013 11:27 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Well, not using that name exactly, but I had something like Any Night Football in mind for a while now. Obviously, if I wrote it the game would be called USA Football. :D On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: plans for any night football thomas? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
no actually installing the windows xp vm requires no help at all. because vmware player will do an unattended install for you. On 6/19/2013 11:34 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Lenron, That is a bit more complicated than I can discuss at any length in this email, but the basic idea is this. You download a free copy of VMWare Player for your platform from http://www.vmware.com, register it, and then you take your old Windows XP CD and install it into VMWare Player. This will obviously require a little sighted assistance with the initial setup, but once you create a virtual machine you can zip it up and back it up on an external drive or something in case you need to reinstall your machine. Once create to start XP simply click on the VMWare player icon on your desktop or Start Menu, select the Windows XP virtual machine from the list, and click the button to start it. Cheers! On 6/19/13, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: how can i get an xp vm --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
now to find my xp copy On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I believe XP Home is supported until April 2014. However, as I have XP Pro, not Home in a virtual machine, I'm not sure about Home's support status. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: i think all you'll need is a windows xp home vm. and i think xp home is no longer supported anyway. but i could be wrong. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought the full version, since I was a kid when I played it, but, unrealistic sounds or not, it provided me much entertainment. I especially loved blowing up the propane tanks. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
I looked through all of jason's disks and could not find the shooting range game. sorry. I wish I had found that one though. On 6/19/2013 3:09 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought the full version, since I was a kid when I played it, but, unrealistic sounds or not, it provided me much entertainment. I especially loved blowing up the propane tanks. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
well my plan was to get an xp vm but after trialing the xp mode vm with vmware I as not impressed. I have the ram for it but it lagged something terrible and external device access was just not on, real slow. There are several ways. 1. play through dosemu with a vinux or other vm yes this lags but only when loading packages otherwise it seems ok when running. 2. try a full xp on a vm I havn't but am not sure. 3. use a system with xp I still have my old laptop with xp and will use it. 4. get a cheap system l load with a licenced or pirated xp it doesn't matter will not matter after support drops at any case but then you need room for the extra unit. For now, if you don't spaciffically need x64, don't use it. I and my brother both have x64 based systems but run them with 32 bit oses because we don't need more than 4gb of ram to do our stuff. Get a dos machine. you will need an external synth and a reader and dos. while you may have to root round to get a full featured dos6 freedos while a bit less feature filled still is a good dos to use and does support the fat32 standard meaning you could have a 30gb space of partitions to run stuff. I have some old software but not hardware synths anymore. ofcause you will have to get a serial card or something because physical serials are getting hard to come buy and it needs to be a physical port by the way and it needs to be directly accessable by the app in question to. I am not sure how fast xp mode would be on a mac but anyway at least for now we have 32 bit oses and they work. we have about 8 or so years before win7 7 dies and probably another 10 or so after that before win8 dies. And as long as people use 32 bit code there will be 32 bit oses around though you may have to hunt for them. When it all goes to heck? Well dosbox won't stay the way it is for ever. frank of eamon has told me he will eventually get round to developing dosbox if he ever manages to learn c that is. We will have time as I say. At 02:52 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? On 6/19/2013 4:04 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, I'm afraid not. Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform with any screen reader unless you install a Dos screen reader and hardware synth into Dosbox. The only way to run Dos programs on Linux with any degree of access is Dosemu passing it a couple of switches to run it as a dum terminal which also disables sounds in the process. On 6/18/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. is dosbox accessable under linux? I have vinux here on a vm and have dosemu loaded but I just wandered if dosbox was accessable at all in linux. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
well josh if you can aquire a keynote gold or other external synth, then you could use dosbox directly. its only for us software speech junkies that dosbox won't work and I think there are even usb synths these days. jaws for dos is free and well if you do manage to get an external synth then dosbox will work for you. At 02:55 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
[Audyssey] dos games
well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
hi Desiree, My DOS Shoot game uses the PC speaker for targeting, so even a virtual xp computer might not have a working pc speaker. I am planning to create a similar game for windows using the GMA game engine. I can't say when it will be finished. Phil - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought the full version, since I was a kid when I played it, but, unrealistic sounds or not, it provided me much entertainment. I especially loved blowing up the propane tanks. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi Josh, Any Night Football is very close to Jim Kitchen's football game. The two major differences is that it had real player's stats from the 1988 season and that it had more choices for offence and defense. I didn't want to develop a windows version since I didn't think anyone would purchase a game that they could have for free. Phil - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! plans for any night football thomas? On 6/19/2013 7:19 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go ahead as they still belong to PCS games as far as I am concerned. Cheers! On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: This is a huge huge shame. But that's what happens when we up grade to try and stay up with the times. Now to bad we can't convirt these old classics to the windows platforms. Now I know there's some knowledgable people on this list that would know how to convert them. Any takers? Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5923 - Release Date: 06/19/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
yeah its too bad espeak can't be made to work in dosbox. make a dos screen reader like asap use maybe an accent on com3 then have something outside dosbox intercept and listen on that port and redirect it to espeak and convert the accent codes to something espeak understands. Josh On 6/19/2013 3:35 PM, shaun everiss wrote: well josh if you can aquire a keynote gold or other external synth, then you could use dosbox directly. its only for us software speech junkies that dosbox won't work and I think there are even usb synths these days. jaws for dos is free and well if you do manage to get an external synth then dosbox will work for you. At 02:55 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
well you can get the xp mode but to be honest I was not happy with its performance I gave it 2tgb of ram and it still hated me. Maybe its partly because I have a win7 32 bit os, and technically I guess I don't need it but whatever. I still do want one. What really gets me is that vmware aparently has some way to convert machines to xp units well to image a machine and then you use it. I have my old box set up, registered for the most part and ready to use so if I could image that and make it a vmware vm then that would be fine. I also have a couple units 1 has an upgrade xp only from 98 but again if I could image that well. At 03:18 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
yes true. Well as soon as I get a windows xp vm set up here then I can play any night football and some of the other games. On 6/19/2013 3:38 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, Any Night Football is very close to Jim Kitchen's football game. The two major differences is that it had real player's stats from the 1988 season and that it had more choices for offence and defense. I didn't want to develop a windows version since I didn't think anyone would purchase a game that they could have for free. Phil - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! plans for any night football thomas? On 6/19/2013 7:19 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go ahead as they still belong to PCS games as far as I am concerned. Cheers! On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: This is a huge huge shame. But that's what happens when we up grade to try and stay up with the times. Now to bad we can't convirt these old classics to the windows platforms. Now I know there's some knowledgable people on this list that would know how to convert them. Any takers? Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5923 - Release Date: 06/19/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the pirating root since we are on the end of a support cycle I am actually interested in people's old cds and licences for their xps not oem or branded because its locked to the serial on the bios. I don't have any to spare that are not locked to various machines. Now if I could find a coppy that would rock. Well either that or someone could share a machine though I prefur the satisfaction of creating the vm myself. Then again I guess it won't matter since some of the newer hardware devices I have on this box won't work with xp including the net so it would be just a gaming unit but still. At 03:10 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss wrote: Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the pirating root since we are on the end of a support cycle I am actually interested in people's old cds and licences for their xps not oem or branded because its locked to the serial on the bios. I don't have any to spare that are not locked to various machines. Now if I could find a coppy that would rock. Well either that or someone could share a machine though I prefur the satisfaction of creating the vm myself. Then again I guess it won't matter since some of the newer hardware devices I have on this box won't work with xp including the net so it would be just a gaming unit but still. At 03:10 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
maybe xp only works good on 64bit machines in a vm? I bet I could find a windows95 or windows98 laptop on ebay for pretty cheap that would work. and they still sell doubletalks with serial ports. but i'd rather have software speech in dos like with espeak. On 6/19/2013 3:42 PM, shaun everiss wrote: well you can get the xp mode but to be honest I was not happy with its performance I gave it 2tgb of ram and it still hated me. Maybe its partly because I have a win7 32 bit os, and technically I guess I don't need it but whatever. I still do want one. What really gets me is that vmware aparently has some way to convert machines to xp units well to image a machine and then you use it. I have my old box set up, registered for the most part and ready to use so if I could image that and make it a vmware vm then that would be fine. I also have a couple units 1 has an upgrade xp only from 98 but again if I could image that well. At 03:18 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
hmmm. yeah I need a reall copy of xp then and not the xp mode crap ms has. At 07:47 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss wrote: Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the pirating root since we are on the end of a support cycle I am actually interested in people's old cds and licences for their xps not oem or branded because its locked to the serial on the bios. I don't have any to spare that are not locked to various machines. Now if I could find a coppy that would rock. Well either that or someone could share a machine though I prefur the satisfaction of creating the vm myself. Then again I guess it won't matter since some of the newer hardware devices I have on this box won't work with xp including the net so it would be just a gaming unit but still. At 03:10 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
well I guess on 64 bit it would work. you could pull 3gb of ram from your 8 or so gb and run things like that. its more to do that I am running a 32 bit os in a 32 bit environment well 2 of them that may be my issue. I really don't have a need for much more power though. At 07:50 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: maybe xp only works good on 64bit machines in a vm? I bet I could find a windows95 or windows98 laptop on ebay for pretty cheap that would work. and they still sell doubletalks with serial ports. but i'd rather have software speech in dos like with espeak. On 6/19/2013 3:42 PM, shaun everiss wrote: well you can get the xp mode but to be honest I was not happy with its performance I gave it 2tgb of ram and it still hated me. Maybe its partly because I have a win7 32 bit os, and technically I guess I don't need it but whatever. I still do want one. What really gets me is that vmware aparently has some way to convert machines to xp units well to image a machine and then you use it. I have my old box set up, registered for the most part and ready to use so if I could image that and make it a vmware vm then that would be fine. I also have a couple units 1 has an upgrade xp only from 98 but again if I could image that well. At 03:18 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux
yes xp mode is krappy. On 6/19/2013 3:51 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. yeah I need a reall copy of xp then and not the xp mode crap ms has. At 07:47 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss wrote: Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the pirating root since we are on the end of a support cycle I am actually interested in people's old cds and licences for their xps not oem or branded because its locked to the serial on the bios. I don't have any to spare that are not locked to various machines. Now if I could find a coppy that would rock. Well either that or someone could share a machine though I prefur the satisfaction of creating the vm myself. Then again I guess it won't matter since some of the newer hardware devices I have on this box won't work with xp including the net so it would be just a gaming unit but still. At 03:10 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to play sound while running as a dumb terminal. Besides that there are a number of other accessible games that for one reason or another that just runs better on XP. I can think of a lot of games written in VB 6 that really run better on XP, and just aren't as well supported on Windows 7. Therefore if you are going to go through the trouble of setting up an XP virtual machine you might as well as install all of your older games on it rather than using Dosemu etc. For example, I've spent some time this last week trying to get a number of audio games running using Wine on Linux. Besides being a pain in the butt to setup and get working correctly there are a number of games that crash using Wine. However, if I Install XP on Linux using VMWare or Virtual Box they run fine. So an XP virtual machine is the best solution all and all. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Ah well. Thanks for looking, I appreciate it. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I looked through all of jason's disks and could not find the shooting range game. sorry. I wish I had found that one though. On 6/19/2013 3:09 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought the full version, since I was a kid when I played it, but, unrealistic sounds or not, it provided me much entertainment. I especially loved blowing up the propane tanks. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Hi, I dragged out an old machine that's running Windows XP. It does have a PC speaker. I think it was purchased in 2002. I remember playing the demos of your games previously on it, and the PC speaker worked. The only thing I have to do to get this machine up and running again is to replace the fan. I do look forward to the game you mentioned. It sounds intriguing. Considering that the shooting range and Cops were both excellent, I imagine that merging them will create something very worth my time and money. On 6/19/13, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: hi Desiree, My DOS Shoot game uses the PC speaker for targeting, so even a virtual xp computer might not have a working pc speaker. I am planning to create a similar game for windows using the GMA game engine. I can't say when it will be finished. Phil - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought the full version, since I was a kid when I played it, but, unrealistic sounds or not, it provided me much entertainment. I especially loved blowing up the propane tanks. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the linux and dosemu way for now. On 6/19/2013 6:28 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state that this copying would prevent us from developing new games with no registration system. However I amnot giving nay help in trying to get the games to work on today's computers. They were writen and designed specifilly for computers running Windows 98 with a hardware speech synthesizer such as DEC talk or Double Talk. Several of the games used the PC speaker as a major part of the sound creating part and would be difficult to play without that feature. I think today's computers have done away with the PC speaker that was supposed to just mak a beep when your computer was booting. My plan was to convert some of thos games to Windows but the long Sarah game development has delayed this. My next Windows game will be a combination of Cops and Shoot. I do not plan on doing a Windows version of Baseball or Football right now as those games already have accessible windows versions from other companies. Phil p...@pcsgames.net - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! hi everyone! I have them! I have fully registered copies of any night football and its update world series baseball and its update fox-hunt mobius mountain monopoly for dos by pcs games and more! download them at. http://www.sendspace.com/file/frot4d if anyone has shoot97 or cops for dos we don't have those on floppy disks. my friend jason brought a bunch of floppy disks and games were on them. now the question is, will these games work best in a windows xp virtual machine? or will the dos games work best in a vinux virtual machine with orca and dosemu or a vinux vm with speakup in a console? and does speakup support laptop layout? most of these games are text with no sound, if any sound it comes through the pc speaker. like beeps and stuff. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3199/5921 - Release Date: 06/18/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!
Well then. We'll just have to wait until Phil has the time to get his cops and robers game up and running. Since he was saying that he was planning on taking the old cops games and the old classic favorite shoting gallory gams and murging them together for a brand new adventure. So thanks for the write back. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are! Hi Ron, No. Something you need to understand is that newer 64-bit processors and 64-bit operating systems such as Windows 7 are not able to execute 8-bit and 16-bit programs without some virtual emulation layer like Dosbox, Dosemu, etc. So unfortunately these games are out of the question. On 6/18/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Will these games work with win 7 in the 64 bit world? I remember the shootting gallary. But what is the cops game and how is it played? Many Many Thanks Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs jim's games
hi everyone, are there any cheats or easter eggs in jim's games like football or baseball that you found? I think it would be cool if sometimes when I run the ball out if they could run all the way and make a touchdown sometimes. josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs jim's games
Hello I don't know, but that would be cool if they did. bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs jim's games hi everyone, are there any cheats or easter eggs in jim's games like football or baseball that you found? I think it would be cool if sometimes when I run the ball out if they could run all the way and make a touchdown sometimes. josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games work
hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games work
Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games work hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games work
nvda only works with it. On 6/19/2013 11:16 PM, James Bartlett wrote: Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games work hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
