Re: [Audyssey] Two New Games! NOLA Is Burning andChoiceoftheRockstar
am loving zomby exodus Are all games this detailed? working through escape at the moment loving it! Will Sent from my iPhone On 5 May 2014, at 13:05, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I've actually bought tinstar and am going to play it next. Regarding interaction, I don't so much feel that dragon and broadsides aren't interactive, sinse you do still see the game change according to your choices, so much as that they aren't really games with a lose condition, sinse if you can choose anything and succeed it sort of takes the pressure off to choose wisely. Regarding character gender well for me it depends upon the game and what sort of character I fancied playing, much as I'd considder if I was making a character for a tabletop rp game with a human gm, indeed I've rp'd female characters before and I have friends in my tabletop group who rp male ones. In zombie exodus I just sort of liked the idea of playing a sort of female mcgiver who could fix anything and was pretty tough in hand to hand combat but had the tact of a brick and wasn't too bright, while in star captain I rather fancied playing someone like Captain Sheriden in Babylon 5. so I played an awsome male military officer with lots of piloting and charisma. I actually like the fact that the choiceofgames do allow you at least a little leeway with creating characters and setting their initial stats before going through the story. While no where near a tabletop game in terms of the amount of things available to you to do at one time , at least it does give some amount of choice. Al the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Two New Games! NOLA Is Burning andChoiceoftheRockstar
Hi mate, there all very good. I am not playing any of them currently but they are detailed. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Two New Games! NOLA Is Burning andChoiceoftheRockstar
Well William it depends upon the author just as with general fiction. What I've found thus far is that the choiceof games I've tried like choiceof the star captain, ie, the games written by choiceofgames own staff are pretty good, though perhaps not as awsome as zombie exodus, while the hosted games (ie the games written with the choice script game creation language), vary hugely, some of them being extremely good (like zombie exodus), but some of them being pretty dire. Of course I've not tried all the games so can't say for certain, though at least the price is so low it encourages you to take a chance. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Two New Games! NOLA Is Burning andChoiceoftheRockstar am loving zomby exodus Are all games this detailed? working through escape at the moment loving it! Will Sent from my iPhone On 5 May 2014, at 13:05, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I've actually bought tinstar and am going to play it next. Regarding interaction, I don't so much feel that dragon and broadsides aren't interactive, sinse you do still see the game change according to your choices, so much as that they aren't really games with a lose condition, sinse if you can choose anything and succeed it sort of takes the pressure off to choose wisely. Regarding character gender well for me it depends upon the game and what sort of character I fancied playing, much as I'd considder if I was making a character for a tabletop rp game with a human gm, indeed I've rp'd female characters before and I have friends in my tabletop group who rp male ones. In zombie exodus I just sort of liked the idea of playing a sort of female mcgiver who could fix anything and was pretty tough in hand to hand combat but had the tact of a brick and wasn't too bright, while in star captain I rather fancied playing someone like Captain Sheriden in Babylon 5. so I played an awsome male military officer with lots of piloting and charisma. I actually like the fact that the choiceofgames do allow you at least a little leeway with creating characters and setting their initial stats before going through the story. While no where near a tabletop game in terms of the amount of things available to you to do at one time , at least it does give some amount of choice. Al the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor
Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions that are not answered by the web site, feel free to ask here, or email v...@valiantgalaxy.com. Thanks for your time and interest, Jeremy Brown --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Test Message
I've been having trouble sending to the list. I've just tried re-subscribing. crossing fingers. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audiogames.net down
Hi. When I went to audiogames.net just a minute ago, I got this strange website that is in dutch. Is audiogames.net down? I thought i'd let you know so that it can be fixed. Thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Test Message
Hi Teresa, Well, your message came through just fine as far as the list is concerned. I hope unsubscribing and resubscribing fixed your issue. Please, let us know if you are still having issues. Cheers! On 5/8/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I've been having trouble sending to the list. I've just tried re-subscribing. crossing fingers. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audiogames.net down
Hi Bryant, Yes, it appears Audiogames.net and the Forum are temporarily down. When I tried to go to there it redirected me to a helpdesk page which wasn't all that helpful given that it wasn't in English. Perhaps Dark can inform the site admin's and have the site fixed in a timely fashion. Cheers! On 5/9/14, bryant walker bryantwalk...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi. When I went to audiogames.net just a minute ago, I got this strange website that is in dutch. Is audiogames.net down? I thought i'd let you know so that it can be fixed. Thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Test Message
I think I'm set now. I got this conversation and several other messages, so it seems to be working. Teresa “We’re made of star stuff.”—Carl Sagan On May 9, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Teresa, Well, your message came through just fine as far as the list is concerned. I hope unsubscribing and resubscribing fixed your issue. Please, let us know if you are still having issues. Cheers! On 5/8/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I've been having trouble sending to the list. I've just tried re-subscribing. crossing fingers. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audiogames.net down
Hi. Richard and sander definitely know about the problem sinse they sent me a mail regarding it, and are working to fix it. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audiogames.net down Hi Bryant, Yes, it appears Audiogames.net and the Forum are temporarily down. When I tried to go to there it redirected me to a helpdesk page which wasn't all that helpful given that it wasn't in English. Perhaps Dark can inform the site admin's and have the site fixed in a timely fashion. Cheers! On 5/9/14, bryant walker bryantwalk...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi. When I went to audiogames.net just a minute ago, I got this strange website that is in dutch. Is audiogames.net down? I thought i'd let you know so that it can be fixed. Thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audiogames.net down
Hey Dark, Good to know. Glad it is being taken care of. Cheers! On 5/9/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Richard and sander definitely know about the problem sinse they sent me a mail regarding it, and are working to fix it. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sixth sense for iOS Question
Hi, all, I'm wondering how many rounds anyone's gotten to in this game. I have reached the third round once. Every zombie takes at least two shots. Are there rounds beyond this one? thanks, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor
this game sounds good and I look forward to it. now we need some good commentated sports games like baseball and football with lots of music and sounds and commentator stuff like in the real games. that would be fun. I think someone will get to that someday though. using windows7 laptop On 5/5/2014 8:20 PM, Valiant Galaxy Associates wrote: Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions that are not answered by the web site, feel free to ask here, or email v...@valiantgalaxy.com. Thanks for your time and interest, Jeremy Brown --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] extra noise - Re: Announcing Interceptor
The only music I would want in a baseball game would be the occasional organist's musical comments, maybe take me out to the ball game during a seventh inning stretch, a bit of music as a player comes to the plate, and stuff like that. During a football game, none. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor this game sounds good and I look forward to it. now we need some good commentated sports games like baseball and football with lots of music and sounds and commentator stuff like in the real games. that would be fun. I think someone will get to that someday though. using windows7 laptop On 5/5/2014 8:20 PM, Valiant Galaxy Associates wrote: Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions that are not answered by the web site, feel free to ask here, or email v...@valiantgalaxy.com. Thanks for your time and interest, Jeremy Brown --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Hi Kelly, yes there is a way to put window-eyes in sleep mode. What you have to do is press control backslash, then press g for general, then down arrow to voice, then tab until you hear voice toggle scope program or global. You want to set the scope to program. Then, shift tab, then go to voice, then use the arrow keys to go to off, and you should be good to go. Also don't forget to save the settings for the games by pressing control s. I hope this helps, sky. Ps. If your interested in the window-eyes tutorials, go to www.gwmicro.com, then go to audio video archives, and you should find the window-eyes 8.4 tutorial as a .zip format. This tutorial should get you started in learning hwo to use windoweyes. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:39 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Actually what you have to do is when you are on general, is hit right arrow to open the general section of the treview, , then down arrow to voice -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:00 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games Hi Kelly, yes there is a way to put window-eyes in sleep mode. What you have to do is press control backslash, then press g for general, then down arrow to voice, then tab until you hear voice toggle scope program or global. You want to set the scope to program. Then, shift tab, then go to voice, then use the arrow keys to go to off, and you should be good to go. Also don't forget to save the settings for the games by pressing control s. I hope this helps, sky. Ps. If your interested in the window-eyes tutorials, go to www.gwmicro.com, then go to audio video archives, and you should find the window-eyes 8.4 tutorial as a .zip format. This tutorial should get you started in learning hwo to use windoweyes. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:39 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] extra noise - Re: Announcing Interceptor
maybe not music but how about all the lifelike commentary you hear in modern playstation and x-box sports games? that's what I like. using windows7 laptop On 5/9/2014 5:21 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The only music I would want in a baseball game would be the occasional organist's musical comments, maybe take me out to the ball game during a seventh inning stretch, a bit of music as a player comes to the plate, and stuff like that. During a football game, none. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor this game sounds good and I look forward to it. now we need some good commentated sports games like baseball and football with lots of music and sounds and commentator stuff like in the real games. that would be fun. I think someone will get to that someday though. using windows7 laptop On 5/5/2014 8:20 PM, Valiant Galaxy Associates wrote: Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions that are not answered by the web site, feel free to ask here, or email v...@valiantgalaxy.com. Thanks for your time and interest, Jeremy Brown --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] extra noise - Re: Announcing Interceptor
Hockey and baseball would be especially interesting for me with all the commentary. Especially with John miller and Dan Rusinowski. Ok, this is getting fantasy-like now. :) Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 9, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: maybe not music but how about all the lifelike commentary you hear in modern playstation and x-box sports games? that's what I like. using windows7 laptop On 5/9/2014 5:21 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The only music I would want in a baseball game would be the occasional organist's musical comments, maybe take me out to the ball game during a seventh inning stretch, a bit of music as a player comes to the plate, and stuff like that. During a football game, none. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor this game sounds good and I look forward to it. now we need some good commentated sports games like baseball and football with lots of music and sounds and commentator stuff like in the real games. that would be fun. I think someone will get to that someday though. using windows7 laptop On 5/5/2014 8:20 PM, Valiant Galaxy Associates wrote: Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions that are not answered by the web site, feel free to ask here, or email v...@valiantgalaxy.com. Thanks for your time and interest, Jeremy Brown --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] extra noise - Re: Announcing Interceptor
Hi. I personally turn the music all the way down, or off if I can. If that fails, I edit the sound file provided I can open it and turn the volume down to nothing or very low in the game. I do this in all games because since I'm very deaf the music just lessens my chances. I tried stem stumper on my android phone, and the other one from the same company who I can't remember the name of. Anyway they both had music, and it's so loud I can't hear it enough to turn the music off, so those games are out for me, darn it anyway. We're currently including no music what so ever in Interceptor because of this, because of cost, and because we don't really believe it would add any true value to the game. Maybe we can put it in for a later release though if people seem to have issues with the lack of music. I feel for fellow game developers. It's surprising how expensive sounds can be for these things, and how little it may pay off since this is not a very large community. Therefore you're doing good just to come out ahead at all. I noticed some background tracks while I was searching for individual sounds for certain things in Interceptor, and those babies were shockingly expensive. We're talking 20 to 50 dollars for a single audio track. I'm sure we could find something a lot cheaper than that which would be reasonably good quality, but holy smokes! Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable On 5/9/2014 8:34 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hockey and baseball would be especially interesting for me with all the commentary. Especially with John miller and Dan Rusinowski. Ok, this is getting fantasy-like now. :) Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 9, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: maybe not music but how about all the lifelike commentary you hear in modern playstation and x-box sports games? that's what I like. using windows7 laptop On 5/9/2014 5:21 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The only music I would want in a baseball game would be the occasional organist's musical comments, maybe take me out to the ball game during a seventh inning stretch, a bit of music as a player comes to the plate, and stuff like that. During a football game, none. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcing Interceptor this game sounds good and I look forward to it. now we need some good commentated sports games like baseball and football with lots of music and sounds and commentator stuff like in the real games. that would be fun. I think someone will get to that someday though. using windows7 laptop On 5/5/2014 8:20 PM, Valiant Galaxy Associates wrote: Dear all, Some word of this project has gotten out to the audio gamer community via Alter_aeon and the audiogames.net forum, so we are posting this here as well so we can include everyone. Valiant Galaxy Associates announces that Interceptor, our first audio game, is nearing completion. We are in the final stages of beta testing now, and hope to have a finished game available in one to three months. Dentin, the coder for Alter_aeon, and a good friend of ours, is helping with a distribution method, and once that is in place, we will be ready to start letting people see the final product. Interceptor is a menu-driven audio game where you pilot a human interceptor fighter against waves of alien fighters. The game is turn based and includes two modes: quick mode for simple shoot and kill play (roughly 20-40 minutes of game play), and normal mode which is more detailed (roughly 60-90 minutes of game play). The normal mode involves not only monitoring energy levels, but requires the player to watch system damage to avoid negative consequences (i.e. if your engines are damaged, you are less likely to gain initiative on your enemy). The game is completely self-voicing and its menu-driven nature means that very few keyboarding skills are needed to play effectively. So far beta testers have been very favorable. We plan to release more games set in the same universe. Information about the company and the universe can be found at www.valiantgalaxy.com. Our main coder is Aaron Speares AKA Valiant8086 who has prepared the Monkey Term client for Alter_aeon. Aaron has also created the speak dropbox application which is available at his web site http://valiant8086.com The game uses the BGT language from Blastbay Studios and uses Aaron's voice-over script for giving BGT the capability of using a human voice to self-voicethe games. To avoid confusion, the Interceptor game is a game for Microsoft Windows. The reference above is to a script used to allow BGT to speak its output without the use of a SAPI or other screen reader. If there are any questions
Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Hi Kelly, No, you don't have to shutdown Window-Eyes with games. Just create a custom set file for the game in question and set the speech to off for that specific application. Perhaps I should write up a quick tutorial on this as I believe a lot of VI users will want to try the Window-Eyes for Office with games as it is practically free for anyone with Office 2010 and higher. Cheers! On 5/9/14, Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Hi kelly sir I'm not sure but this setting will be done when you are in control pannel. I also heard in klango network that raul gallegos posted a patern of sleeping windows eyes you have to go and read it. Smilee Ishan On 5/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kelly, No, you don't have to shutdown Window-Eyes with games. Just create a custom set file for the game in question and set the speech to off for that specific application. Perhaps I should write up a quick tutorial on this as I believe a lot of VI users will want to try the Window-Eyes for Office with games as it is practically free for anyone with Office 2010 and higher. Cheers! On 5/9/14, Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question About Window-Eyes and Audio Games
Kelly, Way back in the days of Window-EYes 6 or so, there was a way to do this with a specific set file. You needed to do it on an application basis, but if you opened the file silent.000, it would, well, go silent until you moved to another program. I haven’t read the manual in a while, but if you look around you should find info on set file associations, which are basically WE’s answer to program-specific customization. HOpe this helps, Zack. On May 9, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For awhile now, I've been learning how to use the Window-Eyes screen reader, as I'm planning on installing the free version for Office users when I get my new computer in addition to JAWS and NVDA. (I like having alternatives like these.) With the latter two screen readers, you can make them sleep while playing self-voicing games, though with JAWS it involves setting it in the configuration manager on an application basis. I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with Window-Eyes, or do you have to completely shut it down before you can play a game? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
