Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
@Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Well Bryan on the one hand I actually can believe more readily someone might have committed crimes over tabletop games more than other forms of gaming. Tabletop rp games are after all a social activity done with other people and can promote strong emotions both positive and negative. However to claim that DD or any other rpg is to blaime for this sounds to me like claiming orchestral music is evil because people have killed or committed suicide in course of performing it, heck on that logic maybe we should ban all friendships, relationships and any human contact at all! :D. Btw interestingly enough when i was looking up the Slenderman on wikipedia in connection with the dragonaps game, I did read about a girl who committed an attempted murder apparently instructed by Lord Voldemort, The Ninja Turtles and Slenderman (now there is a weerd team up). However to say this girl was a few nouns short of a collective analogy would be an understatement. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Wow. LOL. I might also have said she was a few cans short of a six-pack or a few fries short of a Happy Meal. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Well Bryan on the one hand I actually can believe more readily someone might have committed crimes over tabletop games more than other forms of gaming. Tabletop rp games are after all a social activity done with other people and can promote strong emotions both positive and negative. However to claim that DD or any other rpg is to blaime for this sounds to me like claiming orchestral music is evil because people have killed or committed suicide in course of performing it, heck on that logic maybe we should ban all friendships, relationships and any human contact at all! :D. Btw interestingly enough when i was looking up the Slenderman on wikipedia in connection with the dragonaps game, I did read about a girl who committed an attempted murder apparently instructed by Lord Voldemort, The Ninja Turtles and Slenderman (now there is a weerd team up). However to say this girl was a few nouns short of a collective analogy would be an understatement. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
There are a few games out there that have ben taken to life. Last year this one made national news. A 12 year old crawled out of the woods to the road stabbed over 15 times. When asked she stated her friends did it because they were playing a game and they had to do it. Now another popular game in college is Dd witch has ben band for causing deaths. its not funny when some people think what they see on TV or books become a force to kill and reality is fantasy and fantasy is reality. At 08:11 AM 4/30/2015, you wrote: I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike and responsibility
also remember this is just a game. It's not real its a game. Games are for fun. That is why we have games, so we can go do stuff in a simulated environment that we could and should never do in real life in most cases or some cases. Killing simulated game characters well really folks its nothing more than a big fun interactive story or better yet think of it as a big interactive open ended radio drama where you are the director. you direct what happens with your keyboard. in a radio or tv drama you sit and listen to the bad guy go on a killing spree. th director of the show controls the story, what you see and hear. but the only difference is now with the game, now you are the director of the story. in some cases you are even the actor in the story acting out the story by using your computer keyboard. all the game dev is doing is programming descriptions of characters, places, scenes, items weapons amo, and things you can do and cannot do in order so you can play the story. think of it this way. would you let your 8 year old kid read one of the resident evil novels? they are in second grade and they can read but you probably would not let them read such a novel because that or those novels or books are for adults. same with games. they are not real they are games, for fun. and to play the game you first should know and be aware that hey its a game. its not real. its just for fun and to play the part of a character and do stuff you could not do in reality. that's all. and games are lots of fun! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/29/2015 11:43 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: I realize I'm coming down hard on pretty much all your points, Jeremy, but I have to respond to this message too. I don't think the party sequence is all that unusual. Well, unusual isn't the right word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment. What I mean is, how in the world is this any different than a person opening fire in a movie theater or a mall, or a school? All of these things have happened, and will probably happen again. Does that make them right? Of course not, but I really don't think I need to drive my point home any further. Maybe you, as the player, have some kind of dark motivation or mental illness. Should that be explained in the story? Well, that's debatable. Personally, I'm an imaginative individual, so I like to fill in the gaps myself in whichever way I choose. But I also think having a story wouldn't have been a bad idea. Also, judging by the background music, the party appears to take place in a club or something. How do we even know this celebration isn't a public venue of some sort? On 4/29/2015 9:38 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote: Dear Aaron, I agree that most games depict violence in far to cavalier a manner. I also give you cudos on both the warning labels, and the use of very gutwrenching and active clues that this is not socially acceptable behavior during game play. However, I do think that this sort of decision needs more justification than everyone else does it. If game developers do not take a stand on such issues, then we end up with a market glutted with games that peddle violence for the sake of unit sales. Now, that said, as I pointed out in both the original post that you are responding to, and in the second post, I'm not necessarily opposed to violence, but I think the opening sequence and motivation for the character are what I find dangerous as concepts for gaming. I hope to see these same game mechanics ideas and use of realism and graphic violence used in a more constructive way in future. I am merely stating an unease with this release, its method of delivery, and its content. You are free as a developer to give the public what it wants, and if this is what the public wants, they are free to buy it. I can buy or not buy, and as I said, vote with my dollars. No offense was meant, nor criticism of anything but the game's kick-off premise. I think the rest could maybe have been worked without this initial sequence and it would not have bothered me one bit. Take care, Jeremy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Well said. I would of course never kill someone for no reason in real life, nor would I rob a bank despite joking about doing so in moments of frustration. But it's cool to play a game that allows you to control a character who's your exact opposite in terms of what you would do in real life. And there is something enormously satisfying about smashing the bejesus out of a prison cell or bank vault door. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Jody McKinniss Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I finally checked my email, so I saw the posts on this game and the debate on violent content, etc. So here's my opinion after playing it for some time. In the real world I am 36 years of age, and I am probably one of the most tenderhearted, nonviolent people you'll ever meet. I'm the guy who will give his last dollar to the homeless man in the doorway, or give him the shirt off my back. I am anti-death penalty, for several reasons. The thought of taking another human life is repugnant to me. I myself have been a victim of both domestic violence as well as criminal violence by a stranger. So in the real world, if someone were doing what the characters in this game are doing, then I'd be horrified. That being said, I love the game. I get the chance to play the complete opposite of who I am in the real world in a fictional one, with no reprisals, no consequences. How cool is that? I grew up with games like Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Double Dragon, etc. I've had GTA described to me, and there are parts of that game that are extremely graphic. I even tried out DD when I was younger, around 13 or so, despite all the people I've heard saying how evil that particular game is. But guess what? Despite my playing games with violent content in my younger years, I'm not a cold-bloodded killer, I don't fantasize about becoming some psycho serial killer, I don't have waking dreams of mass murdering everyone around me. So my opinion is that everyone should relax a little bit and give us credit for the brain that we have, that we can separate a fictional world from the real one. And let's give parents some credit as well, that they know their children and whether they can handle a game like this. Let's all just have fun with a game that gives us good guys a chance to be bad. There's a definite appeal to letting my hair down in an alternate world, to doing things in that world I know for certain I wouldn't do in the real one. Now, some suggestions for Aaron for future releases: Several things could be included to increase the storyline, to augment your goals. For example, we're a gang, right? Most gangs nowadays are usually into drugs, weapons, some way to make cash if they're not robbing banks. So perhaps give us a stage where we can sell weapons that we get from the guys we kill that we don't need. (I've got over 300 pistol cartridges that I will never use, over 100 knives, etc). It could be a pawn shop, or it could be that we're unknowingly selling weapons to another gang, which just might come back to haunt us, or even undercover ATF or FBI. Add a stage where we can sell drugs to people on the street, and add in undercover cops, local at first, then DEA and FBI once we reach a certain level, that try to thwart our efforts. To help neutralize that threat, we could have the ability to try to bribe some cops, get them on our payroll. Another thing you should include is rival gangs. We're causing all this mayhem, stacking up body counts and cash, and in the process we're taking the glory and attention away from the resident gangs of the city, and now they want their streets back. So our next job gets crashed not only by the cops, but by members of a rival gang or two from the city. So now starts the gang war, and the battles will increase territory and unlock stages for us if we win, as well as providing us with the spoils of different weapons, more cash, and drugs that we can then try to sell or distribute amongst ourselves. And perhaps if we fight well enough, or if we sell enough drugs successfully and take enough of their customers, the rival gang might just get displeased enough to call in a big cartel to try to bring us down. And if we manage to defeat the cartel, we get one hell of a reward...smile. Also, if the shotgun is the best weapon of this first release, definitely some automatic weapons should be included in the next one. And I'm done rambling for now, lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Dark, That's just it though. In most cases DD is harmless as most of the time it is just a bunch of guys and gals sitting around a table rolling dice and playing the game. The serious minded people go do the LARP thing with the live action roll playing. Neither one is particularly dangerous in and of itself. The problem is that some people go too far, go to extremes, and when someone gets hurt or killed the news media is all over it trumpeting the evils of DD or whatever. It is a case of something that rarely happens getting blown out of proportion and turned into a media frenzy because it is controversial. Then, we get the religious talking heads adding their input on how the bible tells us not to get involved in the occult, that this behavior is evil, and that DD should be band because it leads to this kind of violence. All seem to overlook the fact that this incident in question is a rare event, an aberration, and in 99%of all cases that this sort of thing never happens. Its just a case of the media making a mountain out of a molehill to have something to do on a slow news day. It is in my opinion a side effect of what I like to call the drive by media. They always drive around looking for the most sensational stories, and if it isn't sensational enough they will find a way to make it more sensational than it really is. As a result a lot of things that have no real relationship to the situation at hand such as a DD game gotten out of hand is turned into a media frenzy over the evils of roll playing games even though DD itself had little to do with what happened. The media just wants to stir the pot and se what comes of it. Back in the early 80's Don Henley made a great song called Dirty Laundry that tells it how it really is about today's news media. We can do the innuendo. We can dance and sing. We know when all is said and done we haven't really told you a thing. We all know crap is king. Give us dirty laundry. Don Henley, Dirty Laundry On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tim. I'm still a little confused at this correspondance between DD and deaths, or indeed what you mean about a girl crawling around in the woods and DD. As far as I knowand have ever played, DD,like all tabletop games involves you and your friends and a game master sitting around in a nice warm house with your dice and character sheets (or electronic versions of same), essentially participating in a collective story the gm is telling. As I said, I can believe that someone probably has committed a murder or similar, but only the same way any social activity provokes murder. There's no directly violent action or running around with real weapons. This is a contrast from larp, live action role play which does! involve dressing up like your fantasy character and running around smacking each other with fake weapons. This is not something I've ever done or personally would particularly want to do (sinse I don't see the point of being physically limited to playing a blind character), however I have many friends who are keen larp fans, and they describe a very strict set of rules and code of conduct, such as having a licensed first aider, having only specific phome weapons usable, having a set guide when out in wild locations who is responsable for knowing where all the players are etc. ? indeed apparently at one point a couple of friends of mine were getting ready to go to one of their larp events dressing in gear, and were accosted by a drunken idiot wielding a large table knife saying I want to play too and swinging it around like a moron, their response was to phone the police! ? So, I don't particularly see Dd any more dangerous than any other in door social activity would be, and while larp does entail more risk, when run properly it's no more dangerous than say fencing, wilderness walking or other out door sports. ? Beware the grue! ? Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
That sounds like an excellent, if bizarre, setup for a fanfiction. Lol. On 4/30/2015 8:39 AM, dark wrote: Well Bryan on the one hand I actually can believe more readily someone might have committed crimes over tabletop games more than other forms of gaming. Tabletop rp games are after all a social activity done with other people and can promote strong emotions both positive and negative. However to claim that DD or any other rpg is to blaime for this sounds to me like claiming orchestral music is evil because people have killed or committed suicide in course of performing it, heck on that logic maybe we should ban all friendships, relationships and any human contact at all! :D. Btw interestingly enough when i was looking up the Slenderman on wikipedia in connection with the dragonaps game, I did read about a girl who committed an attempted murder apparently instructed by Lord Voldemort, The Ninja Turtles and Slenderman (now there is a weerd team up). However to say this girl was a few nouns short of a collective analogy would be an understatement. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Tom. interestingly enough I think this also shows a cultural difference between britain and America, sinse while I know for a fact larp accidents or occasionally actual crimes (such as the one I discussed with that drunken prat with the knife my friend reported), have happened, I have never heard such things mentioned on the media, nor in Britain would you get any established religious figures condemning such, sinse while there are religious fundamentalists over here they certainly aren't mainstream enough to generally be consulted on such things or have such a view aired. This isn't to say the british media is much better, indeed with it coming up to the election I've been laughing at the amount of party spin each party is putting on a given news events and the amount the media has gone along with them, however at least religiously i think the more common moderate position in Britain does help somewhat. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] playing swamp
Hi Josh. It depends upon how close you are, what weapon your using and several other factors, for example the shotgun on scattershot is far easier to hit with than in single shot mode, but packs less punch. personally what I do is turn off all player footsteps (but keep up the ping), turn down my own footsteps and turn zombie footsteps up a bit so I can be sure what I'm hearing and where to shoot. I particularly love using the sniper rifle and scope with this method, wait, wait, booom! shot to the head! Beware th eGrue! DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:44 PM Subject: [Audyssey] playing swamp hey when playing swamp do you have to center the zombies exactly? sometimes I think I have them centered but when I shoot I miss them. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Not entirely true. That's one reason I use a British synthe. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:16 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. Ah well, it doesn't hurt to stock up on weapons anyway. On 4/30/2015 2:05 PM, Aaron Baker wrote: Steel shield is the only armor available. If there were more, they would appear in the black market over time. On 4/30/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
[Audyssey] odd terminology - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
That's sort of like having an Arkansas toothpick in one hand and a Bowie knife in the other. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi charlse. Actually not many. There is a bible file in Jim Kitchin's trivia, though I've not played it, but I've not seen any biblical questions on trivia crack and though I would've expected freerice to have a bible verses category surprisingly it doesn't. Beware the Grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] playing swamp
keep up the ping? what do you mean? don't understand ping. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 2:00 PM, dark wrote: Hi Josh. It depends upon how close you are, what weapon your using and several other factors, for example the shotgun on scattershot is far easier to hit with than in single shot mode, but packs less punch. personally what I do is turn off all player footsteps (but keep up the ping), turn down my own footsteps and turn zombie footsteps up a bit so I can be sure what I'm hearing and where to shoot. I particularly love using the sniper rifle and scope with this method, wait, wait, booom! shot to the head! Beware th eGrue! DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:44 PM Subject: [Audyssey] playing swamp hey when playing swamp do you have to center the zombies exactly? sometimes I think I have them centered but when I shoot I miss them. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, As you said you were raised with a different type of mentality. Certainly the religious fundamentalism that is so popular here in the US isn't as prevalent over in the UK which makes the world of difference when discussing topics like fantasy and games. The issue here is that fundamentalists are often very literal minded about scriptural interpretation . They attempt to apply concepts and ideas written down 2,000 or more ago to a modern day framework which doesn't always work to my way of thinking. For example, the verse in Deuteronomy often quoted to declare games like dungeons and Dragons as evil is actually talking about worship and practicing the occult in a very literal sense. It isn't talking about books, games, or anything like that. I doubt the concept of playing a game like Dungeons and Dragons were on the author's minds since it hadn't been created yet. Therefore applying that verse to games in a modern context makes little sense as a group of college kids sitting around a table playing DD aren't literally casting spells or worshipping pagan gods. They are just rolling dice and playing along with an adventure story. In short, like you said for me playing a game like DD and practicing witchcraft in the real world are in two different categories mentally. I do not confuse the two, nor do I think one has any bearing on the other. However, to a religious fundamentalist they make no distinctions like that and apply scripture to all references of the occult real and imaginary. Even if the scripture in question doesn't really apply to that situation. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I understand where the believe comes from, but having been at least bought up a christian with a very different mentality it has just plane never made sense to me on a religious or personal level. I will admit the first time i met a practicing pagan (actually secretary of the British Wicken association), who freely and openly talked about spells i was a little disquieted, but when she explained that in pagan belief a spell is simply a practical or symbolic method of praying it made a lot more sense, indeed according to her a spell could be as simple as pouring your troubles into a cup of water and pouring them out on the ground. Again though her beliefs I don't particularly see as having anything to do with harry potter, DD or anything else anymore than I see the clerric's god enspired spells in DD having any baring on real religious practices at all, the two things are just in entirely separate compartments mentally which is why I find the idea of people who confuse the two utterly strange. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
if you want to be a logger go get the survive the wild game. then you can cut down trees and stuff. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 12:16 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, As you said you were raised with a different type of mentality. Certainly the religious fundamentalism that is so popular here in the US isn't as prevalent over in the UK which makes the world of difference when discussing topics like fantasy and games. The issue here is that fundamentalists are often very literal minded about scriptural interpretation . They attempt to apply concepts and ideas written down 2,000 or more ago to a modern day framework which doesn't always work to my way of thinking. For example, the verse in Deuteronomy often quoted to declare games like dungeons and Dragons as evil is actually talking about worship and practicing the occult in a very literal sense. It isn't talking about books, games, or anything like that. I doubt the concept of playing a game like Dungeons and Dragons were on the author's minds since it hadn't been created yet. Therefore applying that verse to games in a modern context makes little sense as a group of college kids sitting around a table playing DD aren't literally casting spells or worshipping pagan gods. They are just rolling dice and playing along with an adventure story. In short, like you said for me playing a game like DD and practicing witchcraft in the real world are in two different categories mentally. I do not confuse the two, nor do I think one has any bearing on the other. However, to a religious fundamentalist they make no distinctions like that and apply scripture to all references of the occult real and imaginary. Even if the scripture in question doesn't really apply to that situation. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I understand where the believe comes from, but having been at least bought up a christian with a very different mentality it has just plane never made sense to me on a religious or personal level. I will admit the first time i met a practicing pagan (actually secretary of the British Wicken association), who freely and openly talked about spells i was a little disquieted, but when she explained that in pagan belief a spell is simply a practical or symbolic method of praying it made a lot more sense, indeed according to her a spell could be as simple as pouring your troubles into a cup of water and pouring them out on the ground. Again though her beliefs I don't particularly see as having anything to do with harry potter, DD or anything else anymore than I see the clerric's god enspired spells in DD having any baring on real religious practices at all, the two things are just in entirely separate compartments mentally which is why I find the idea of people who confuse the two utterly strange. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
If you and I play chess on a regular basis, and I can never beat you, and I manage to get the upper hand in a game one afternoon, I blow it or you outfox me and win the game, and I kill you in anger after the game has been won, does that mean that chess should be banned? Of course not. So, I say, game on! It's frustrating at times, but fun! --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Jody McKinniss jlove42...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I suspect that the people responsible for any murders or suicides related to DD or any other game had some serious mental illness issues, and their decisions had much more to do with that illness than with the games themselves. So to call any game evil based on behaviors committed by someone severely compromised by mental illness is ridiculous, especially when you consider that even had they not played the game in question, their ultimate behavior would most likely have occurred anyway. The suicide and/or murder wasn't committed because of DD, it was done so because of the imbalance in the person's brain, and likely would have resulted even if the person had never engaged in the aforementioned activities. My uncle is a prime example. He played DD for hours and hours as a teenager, days at a time without sleep on a few occasions, engaged in paintball (Which is basically simulated hunting/killing, I believe), had several game consoles with graphically violent games. Last time I saw him, he was 26 years of age. He still had the latest game consoles, and a majority of his games were fighting, violent, and bloody. Yet in the real world he's a husband, the Vice President of a company, a productive and contributing member of society who loves his wife and his familye. So again, to the people who are so uptight in this country about every little thing, I say relax. Have fun doing something in an alternate world that you know damn well you wouldn't do in your everyday life. I believe that the everyday average Joe's mind is capable of separating ffantasy from reality, and the few that do act out what they hear, see, read, etc., are burdened with illnesses that would have eventually led to adverse behavior anyway. Like I said, the thought of taking a human life in the real world is appalling to me, as it is to most people probably. But I definitely like kicking some ass in psycho strike, lol. I managed to get the rifle last night before I went to sleep. It's better than the shotgun, but Aaron, it is definitely my opinion that automatic weapons should be included in the next release. I just hope that you've managed to see suggestions buried in with all of the debate surrounding violence, religion, and other things. Lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Someone did, and it is OK, but it is short. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Didn't Jim Kitchen create a Bible file for his Trivia game? We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yep agree there. now to change the subject I've been playing psycho strike and have been killing goats. its lots of fun this game! I'd love to see a goat simulator where you play the part of a goat and you can just run around and bash cars and stuff with your horns, kick people, eat grass, and do other bad rampaging goat stuff now that would be fun! if anyone makes a goat sim I'll buy it. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
oh yeah and I think I'm buying psycho strike next month for sure! its fun! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] playing swamp
hey when playing swamp do you have to center the zombies exactly? sometimes I think I have them centered but when I shoot I miss them. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Steel shield is the only armor available. If there were more, they would appear in the black market over time. On 4/30/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Ok Aaron, possible bug? So the grenade pack shows up for me in the black market, but no such weapon for using them in the weapon shop. I've gone three separate times now, and nothing, just rifles, etc. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Baker Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Steel shield is the only armor available. If there were more, they would appear in the black market over time. On 4/30/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
[Audyssey] Harry Potter, games, and the like - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
When I hear someone saying that these are evil and unGodly, the first question I ask is, Have you read the books or played the game or watch others playing it? If the answer is something like, No. And I won't. Our Pastor said, blah, blah, blah, my immediate response is, In that case, because you are getting all of your information from one source, and you have no personal experience from which to form an opinion, you are uninformed on the subject, and your opinion is totally skewed. Although I may value someone else's opinion and judgment, the opinion and judgment are theirs, not mine. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
JAck daniels? well no wonder you puke :D. Note I said good! wisky. Rum is the same, Bacardi white rum is certinly not the propper stuff, indeed even the rather cheap captain morgans you get over here, (which is usually sadly the only rum available), isn't really a propper rum that I'd want to drink. My favourite commercial rum is a rather nice brand of spiced stuff called The cracken! though even that isn't the same as the propper jamaican variety. Wine I'll drink occasionally if it is a nice wine, (I have a friend who is very good at picking wines), but not on a regular basis and usually only after I've tasted it first. As I said I'm more a coctales and spirits man. Anyway unless someone is going to write a game involving a drinkinng contest this discussion probably should stop sinse it's getting severely ot, though thinking about it a drinking game could be amusing! :D. beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, LOL. You are right. I also misspelled lager. In any case the primary difference between lager and ale is how it is brewed. I also think, but am not certain, they also use different grains. Whatever the case lager and ale taste quite a bit different. As for rum and whiskey you must have a cast iron stomach. I can't drink either one of those without throwing up. I hate that stuff. Beer doesn't bother me. Wine doesn't bother me. However, give me a couple shots of Jack Daniel's and I'll puke my guts out for a month. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
How tired must everyone in this game be of eating goats? Lol On 4/30/2015 1:42 PM, Josh K wrote: yep agree there. now to change the subject I've been playing psycho strike and have been killing goats. its lots of fun this game! I'd love to see a goat simulator where you play the part of a goat and you can just run around and bash cars and stuff with your horns, kick people, eat grass, and do other bad rampaging goat stuff now that would be fun! if anyone makes a goat sim I'll buy it. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
I suspect that the people responsible for any murders or suicides related to DD or any other game had some serious mental illness issues, and their decisions had much more to do with that illness than with the games themselves. So to call any game evil based on behaviors committed by someone severely compromised by mental illness is ridiculous, especially when you consider that even had they not played the game in question, their ultimate behavior would most likely have occurred anyway. The suicide and/or murder wasn't committed because of DD, it was done so because of the imbalance in the person's brain, and likely would have resulted even if the person had never engaged in the aforementioned activities. My uncle is a prime example. He played DD for hours and hours as a teenager, days at a time without sleep on a few occasions, engaged in paintball (Which is basically simulated hunting/killing, I believe), had several game consoles with graphically violent games. Last time I saw him, he was 26 years of age. He still had the latest game consoles, and a majority of his games were fighting, violent, and bloody. Yet in the real world he's a husband, the Vice President of a company, a productive and contributing member of society who loves his wife and his familye. So again, to the people who are so uptight in this country about every little thing, I say relax. Have fun doing something in an alternate world that you know damn well you wouldn't do in your everyday life. I believe that the everyday average Joe's mind is capable of separating ffantasy from reality, and the few that do act out what they hear, see, read, etc., are burdened with illnesses that would have eventually led to adverse behavior anyway. Like I said, the thought of taking a human life in the real world is appalling to me, as it is to most people probably. But I definitely like kicking some ass in psycho strike, lol. I managed to get the rifle last night before I went to sleep. It's better than the shotgun, but Aaron, it is definitely my opinion that automatic weapons should be included in the next release. I just hope that you've managed to see suggestions buried in with all of the debate surrounding violence, religion, and other things. Lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Didn't Jim Kitchen create a Bible file for his Trivia game? We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Exactly. It isn't the game but the player that does the stupid stuff. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:41 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Agreed! DD is not evil! it's just a flippin' game, peoples! No more or less bad than any other game, in terms of social impact. On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: To be honest Charlse I do think your being harsh, but not because of what you say about games, simply because we have no information about these mythical people who committed suicide over dD. Suicide is pretty drastic and a person needs to be in a fairly extreme position to contemplate it seriously, and the same arguemenet could be made for murder. If some mythical DD player did commit suicide or murder, I'd wager there was rather more going on and a rather more complex reason involved than just because of DD That is why I mentioned DD being a social activity sinse a lot of causes for that sort of action tend to be about people's interactions. I'd suggest myself that if a DD player did! commit suicide, those who ascribe DD as a single cause are over simplifying in the extreme, like those people who blaime all society's problems on alcohol, or comunism, or tv, or insert favourite bad influence. Indeed, sinse all of this sounds pretty speculatory anyway I'm not entirely sure myself if this isn't scare mongering anyway. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
You're gonna wind up on someone's table if you make a mistake in that game you're thinking of. I love a good leg of lamb!! --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions yep agree there. now to change the subject I've been playing psycho strike and have been killing goats. its lots of fun this game! I'd love to see a goat simulator where you play the part of a goat and you can just run around and bash cars and stuff with your horns, kick people, eat grass, and do other bad rampaging goat stuff now that would be fun! if anyone makes a goat sim I'll buy it. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Charles, Yes, exactly my view. I've been told the same thing over the years. I often times read the horoscopes not because I actually believe in them but for entertainment purposes only. Sometimes I get a laugh at the predictions. I'll never forget this one time my horoscope said not to eat spaghetti because I'd end up embarrassing myself by spilling it in my lap. So just for fun I had spaghetti for dinner that night. Nothing of course happened. So apparently reading that prediction had no ill effects on my life. The thing is I am a skeptic at heart when it comes to supernatural claims and often see things like astrology as just bunk to put it politely. So think it is amusing when a religious person tells me not to read my horoscope because it seems like they are putting more faith in its validity than I do. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yep they have no scientific basis really. I read them for fun sometimes and for a laugh. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 1:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles, Yes, exactly my view. I've been told the same thing over the years. I often times read the horoscopes not because I actually believe in them but for entertainment purposes only. Sometimes I get a laugh at the predictions. I'll never forget this one time my horoscope said not to eat spaghetti because I'd end up embarrassing myself by spilling it in my lap. So just for fun I had spaghetti for dinner that night. Nothing of course happened. So apparently reading that prediction had no ill effects on my life. The thing is I am a skeptic at heart when it comes to supernatural claims and often see things like astrology as just bunk to put it politely. So think it is amusing when a religious person tells me not to read my horoscope because it seems like they are putting more faith in its validity than I do. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
speaking of scopes would the gun scope in swamp maybe help with killing the zombies somehow? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 12:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, As you said you were raised with a different type of mentality. Certainly the religious fundamentalism that is so popular here in the US isn't as prevalent over in the UK which makes the world of difference when discussing topics like fantasy and games. The issue here is that fundamentalists are often very literal minded about scriptural interpretation . They attempt to apply concepts and ideas written down 2,000 or more ago to a modern day framework which doesn't always work to my way of thinking. For example, the verse in Deuteronomy often quoted to declare games like dungeons and Dragons as evil is actually talking about worship and practicing the occult in a very literal sense. It isn't talking about books, games, or anything like that. I doubt the concept of playing a game like Dungeons and Dragons were on the author's minds since it hadn't been created yet. Therefore applying that verse to games in a modern context makes little sense as a group of college kids sitting around a table playing DD aren't literally casting spells or worshipping pagan gods. They are just rolling dice and playing along with an adventure story. In short, like you said for me playing a game like DD and practicing witchcraft in the real world are in two different categories mentally. I do not confuse the two, nor do I think one has any bearing on the other. However, to a religious fundamentalist they make no distinctions like that and apply scripture to all references of the occult real and imaginary. Even if the scripture in question doesn't really apply to that situation. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I understand where the believe comes from, but having been at least bought up a christian with a very different mentality it has just plane never made sense to me on a religious or personal level. I will admit the first time i met a practicing pagan (actually secretary of the British Wicken association), who freely and openly talked about spells i was a little disquieted, but when she explained that in pagan belief a spell is simply a practical or symbolic method of praying it made a lot more sense, indeed according to her a spell could be as simple as pouring your troubles into a cup of water and pouring them out on the ground. Again though her beliefs I don't particularly see as having anything to do with harry potter, DD or anything else anymore than I see the clerric's god enspired spells in DD having any baring on real religious practices at all, the two things are just in entirely separate compartments mentally which is why I find the idea of people who confuse the two utterly strange. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
how do you activate the AI? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 1:55 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
@Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. ---
Re: [Audyssey] FW: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series BaseballGame for Windows
Hi Nicol. There are several baseball games I know other than Jim Kitchins', though bare in mind I know little to nothing about baseball (indeed Jim Kitchin's game is my first major contact with it), so what these games are like I'm not sre. First is Bari bari baseball, a game from japanese developers psyam. http://pcyam.com/game/BariBariBaseball/hp/eng/ The game is entirely in English, needs no special modifications to play, and has full voice clips, people have spoken highly of it. There is a demo and a full version and I believe in the full version you can play online. I've played If you go to http://www.whitestick.co.uk/ongames.html You will also find links to a variety of browser based games, including a couple of management games such as power play manager that include baseball. I'm not sure how these are again, but they are accessible, (indeed there was a recent report on power play improving their access). They are online and involve I believe lots of statistics, but if this person is looking for something stat based similar to dos baseball games perhaps she/he would prefer something along those lines. hth, sorry I can't be more specific, sports games are not an area I know much about generally, and sports like Baseball even less so. Beware the grue! dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: nicol ni...@vodamail.co.za To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] FW: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series BaseballGame for Windows HI all A member from another list asking for help. I will forward any responses to him. Many thanks for any help Bfn Nicol -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: 28 April 2015 07:02 AM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Hi Group, I was also a paid user of World Series Baseball Special Edition. I never heard of a Windows port of that program. I really wish there was one. I did like that game more than the Kitchen game. The Kitchen game does allow pitching and hitting variability, but other than that it is totally random. You can change the players and the tea names in Kitchen's game, but everything is random. I did change things in the WSB Special edition and I am not sure how, but changing the statistics in that game _does_ make a real difference. For example, just to be silly, I put together a great team of all star baseball players from all eras on one team and an imaginary team called 'The Buffalo Blinks' (as in Buffalo, New York) consisting of all my local blind friends--both men and women. I changed the batting and pitching stats for the all star team and gave all the 'Blinks' high averages and low ERA for the pitching. Needless to say, the 'Blinks' slaughtered the All Stars in 4 games and by large scores. Again, I am not sure just how at the DOS level, this fuzzy logic (which must have been primitive at that early time) worked, but it was quite good. I really miss it. I also miss the 'Any Night Football' which was a DOS game from (I think) PCS Games. That also seemed to work on the basis of statistics. For example, you could schedule a game between 2 teams and pick plays and defense that would reflect real life trends an tendencies and it _did_ make a difference. With Kitchen's football game, again, it is totally random. There is no control. If anyone knows where any of these games from the old days can be downloaded and used in Windows, I would greatly appreciate any information. On 4/27/2015 4:55 PM, Troy Burnham wrote: I agree, if world series baseball and Jim Kitchen's baseball could be combined somehow then we could have the best of both worlds. I've been told that you can change the player's names in Jim Kitchen's game, but I'm not sure where to go to find all of the info that was in the world series baseball game. Troy - Original Message - From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov To: blindt...@freelists.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:41 PM Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows It is my understanding that a gentleman named Phil Vlassik, not sure about the spelling, did make a Windows version of that game in the mid to late 1990s. I did have the DOS version and loved it. I even created teams of my own. The Jim Kitchen baseball game is probably the closest thing to that now. The only thing that I didn't care for about WSBB was that you actually did very little, and the computer basically played the game. With the Jim Kitchen game, you actually get to pitch and hit, kind of like the old Parker Bros. talking baseball game. Andy
Re: [Audyssey] FW: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows
well there is the ms-dos virtual machine. its 25 years old not sure how legal it is. i doubt microsoft would care really if folks just used it for old games. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:01 PM, nicol wrote: HI all A member from another list asking for help. I will forward any responses to him. Many thanks for any help Bfn Nicol -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: 28 April 2015 07:02 AM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Hi Group, I was also a paid user of World Series Baseball Special Edition. I never heard of a Windows port of that program. I really wish there was one. I did like that game more than the Kitchen game. The Kitchen game does allow pitching and hitting variability, but other than that it is totally random. You can change the players and the tea names in Kitchen's game, but everything is random. I did change things in the WSB Special edition and I am not sure how, but changing the statistics in that game _does_ make a real difference. For example, just to be silly, I put together a great team of all star baseball players from all eras on one team and an imaginary team called 'The Buffalo Blinks' (as in Buffalo, New York) consisting of all my local blind friends--both men and women. I changed the batting and pitching stats for the all star team and gave all the 'Blinks' high averages and low ERA for the pitching. Needless to say, the 'Blinks' slaughtered the All Stars in 4 games and by large scores. Again, I am not sure just how at the DOS level, this fuzzy logic (which must have been primitive at that early time) worked, but it was quite good. I really miss it. I also miss the 'Any Night Football' which was a DOS game from (I think) PCS Games. That also seemed to work on the basis of statistics. For example, you could schedule a game between 2 teams and pick plays and defense that would reflect real life trends an tendencies and it _did_ make a difference. With Kitchen's football game, again, it is totally random. There is no control. If anyone knows where any of these games from the old days can be downloaded and used in Windows, I would greatly appreciate any information. On 4/27/2015 4:55 PM, Troy Burnham wrote: I agree, if world series baseball and Jim Kitchen's baseball could be combined somehow then we could have the best of both worlds. I've been told that you can change the player's names in Jim Kitchen's game, but I'm not sure where to go to find all of the info that was in the world series baseball game. Troy - Original Message - From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov To: blindt...@freelists.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:41 PM Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows It is my understanding that a gentleman named Phil Vlassik, not sure about the spelling, did make a Windows version of that game in the mid to late 1990s. I did have the DOS version and loved it. I even created teams of my own. The Jim Kitchen baseball game is probably the closest thing to that now. The only thing that I didn't care for about WSBB was that you actually did very little, and the computer basically played the game. With the Jim Kitchen game, you actually get to pitch and hit, kind of like the old Parker Bros. talking baseball game. Andy -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:36 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [BlindTech] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Rich - If it ever was so converted, I never heard about it and I had been a paid user of Harry's program right up to the time of his death and I remained in contact with his son for some time thereafter. -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] World Series Baseball Game for Windows Many years ago, Harry Hollingsworth had a text-based World Series Baseball game for DOS, which was intended for blind users. He passed away many years ago, but I have heard that it was later converted for Windows use. Does anyone know more about this Windows version? -- Rich De Steno You are receiving this message, because you subscribed to the BlindTech discussion list. To send a message to the list, blindt...@freelists.org To view Blindtech archives: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you wish to unsubscribe, edit options, ETC, please visit: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you have a question, or need to get ahold of the admins, please e-mail: blindtech-adm...@freelists.org You are receiving this message, because you subscribed to the BlindTech
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Well, on my speakers, using a high quality English synth they don't, so please stop with the repeated complaints on this matter, or make it clear your only talking about American pronunciations. Beware the gRue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I was not referring to the way that a person speaks. On my speakers, using JAWS 15, and an American high quality SaPI 5 speech, logger and lager sound exactly the same. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
mmm drinking game. There is no way Harry potter and other such games are evil. On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike
Hi. When you get additional characters and take more than one on a mission, the computer controlls the others. You can have up to three people on a mission and you only controll one of them. At some point, I don't know how, you unlock the ability to have the computer controll everyone on a mission. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh K Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike how do you activate the AI? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 1:55 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Wow, there are different shields other than the steel shield? I'm going to assume that they can be found in the weapons shop. Time to try and raid that some more, I suppose. I did pick up a couple of cool weapons there already. On 4/30/2015 10:15 AM, Aaron Baker wrote: Hello, You can, in addition to better shields, get better weapons as your level increases. For example, where pistols are harder to get early on, they are easy to get at level ten. Just keep playing and you should be able to get better and better weaponry. Having the ai help you out by rescuing a prisoner helps a lot, too! Regards, Aaron On 4/30/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi, Kelly. 1. The prisoners are freed when you break down the door and they run back to your base. You don't get to use them until you return to base. For the vault, you hear breaking glass for a while while you're pounding on the door and then it completely shatters. There's an announcement when you get the cash but it's impossible to hear over all the other noises. 2. The shieleds you can buy go up when your level does. So, the higher your level, the higher the cost of the shield and the higher its defensive level. 3. I think you have to kill the gunshop owner in the weapons shop or kill cops in other places. I'm not completely sure about this one. I only got weapons when I let the computer control my main character. HTH, Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Couple Questions Regarding Psycho Strike Hi, I started playing Psycho Strike today, and ended up purchasing it. It works great on my Windows 7 64-bit machine, but contrary to the manual, I couldn't get it to run on my XP system. (I get a message saying This program is not a Win32-compatible program, or something to that effect.) Other than that, it's a lot of fun, but I have a few questions about the gameplay. 1. Presumably, you have to release prisoners before you can recruit any other characters. As far as I can tell, I've broken down some doors, but am not told if anyone has been set free. Is there a way to know if anyone has been released? Same thing with the bank vaults. I'll go up to one and take out my frustrations on it until glass begins breaking. Do I have to keep hitting it before I can get the cash, or do I automatically get it when the glass breaks? 2. I've noticed that in the black market there's a defensive shield. However, the price keeps changing, and I can't seem to buy it even if I have the right amount of cash. As an example, I was first told it would cost 149 cash. I managed to get up to 160 cash or something like that, but when I went to buy the shield, it said it was now available with an increased defensive level for 400 cash. Obviously, I now can't get it. Is this a bug with the game, or do you have to be very precise as far as cash goes? 3. Where can I find guns to use the pistol cartridges? I've been in the Weapons shop, but usually keep getting either a long knife or pistol cartridge, but no actual pistol. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
[Audyssey] FW: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows
HI all A member from another list asking for help. I will forward any responses to him. Many thanks for any help Bfn Nicol -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: 28 April 2015 07:02 AM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Hi Group, I was also a paid user of World Series Baseball Special Edition. I never heard of a Windows port of that program. I really wish there was one. I did like that game more than the Kitchen game. The Kitchen game does allow pitching and hitting variability, but other than that it is totally random. You can change the players and the tea names in Kitchen's game, but everything is random. I did change things in the WSB Special edition and I am not sure how, but changing the statistics in that game _does_ make a real difference. For example, just to be silly, I put together a great team of all star baseball players from all eras on one team and an imaginary team called 'The Buffalo Blinks' (as in Buffalo, New York) consisting of all my local blind friends--both men and women. I changed the batting and pitching stats for the all star team and gave all the 'Blinks' high averages and low ERA for the pitching. Needless to say, the 'Blinks' slaughtered the All Stars in 4 games and by large scores. Again, I am not sure just how at the DOS level, this fuzzy logic (which must have been primitive at that early time) worked, but it was quite good. I really miss it. I also miss the 'Any Night Football' which was a DOS game from (I think) PCS Games. That also seemed to work on the basis of statistics. For example, you could schedule a game between 2 teams and pick plays and defense that would reflect real life trends an tendencies and it _did_ make a difference. With Kitchen's football game, again, it is totally random. There is no control. If anyone knows where any of these games from the old days can be downloaded and used in Windows, I would greatly appreciate any information. On 4/27/2015 4:55 PM, Troy Burnham wrote: I agree, if world series baseball and Jim Kitchen's baseball could be combined somehow then we could have the best of both worlds. I've been told that you can change the player's names in Jim Kitchen's game, but I'm not sure where to go to find all of the info that was in the world series baseball game. Troy - Original Message - From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov To: blindt...@freelists.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:41 PM Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows It is my understanding that a gentleman named Phil Vlassik, not sure about the spelling, did make a Windows version of that game in the mid to late 1990s. I did have the DOS version and loved it. I even created teams of my own. The Jim Kitchen baseball game is probably the closest thing to that now. The only thing that I didn't care for about WSBB was that you actually did very little, and the computer basically played the game. With the Jim Kitchen game, you actually get to pitch and hit, kind of like the old Parker Bros. talking baseball game. Andy -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:36 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [BlindTech] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Rich - If it ever was so converted, I never heard about it and I had been a paid user of Harry's program right up to the time of his death and I remained in contact with his son for some time thereafter. -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] World Series Baseball Game for Windows Many years ago, Harry Hollingsworth had a text-based World Series Baseball game for DOS, which was intended for blind users. He passed away many years ago, but I have heard that it was later converted for Windows use. Does anyone know more about this Windows version? -- Rich De Steno You are receiving this message, because you subscribed to the BlindTech discussion list. To send a message to the list, blindt...@freelists.org To view Blindtech archives: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you wish to unsubscribe, edit options, ETC, please visit: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you have a question, or need to get ahold of the admins, please e-mail: blindtech-adm...@freelists.org You are receiving this message, because you subscribed to the BlindTech discussion list. To send a message to the list, blindt...@freelists.org To view Blindtech archives: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you wish to
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
I was not referring to the way that a person speaks. On my speakers, using JAWS 15, and an American high quality SaPI 5 speech, logger and lager sound exactly the same. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Okay you two! You're both a few cans short of a six pack! You both spelled lager incorrectly! ;) Anyway, just for fun, here is an article on the diff between lager and ale. http://allaboutbeer.com/article/lager-beer-vs-ale-beer—does-it-matter/ Enjoy! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] playing swamp
If you hit I believe enter, you can turn on pinging of other players. this makes a sound played over the footsteps of other players. It was inserted into the game to stop people shooting at other players by mistake and wasting ammo when they hear their eps. hth. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] playing swamp keep up the ping? what do you mean? don't understand ping. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 2:00 PM, dark wrote: Hi Josh. It depends upon how close you are, what weapon your using and several other factors, for example the shotgun on scattershot is far easier to hit with than in single shot mode, but packs less punch. personally what I do is turn off all player footsteps (but keep up the ping), turn down my own footsteps and turn zombie footsteps up a bit so I can be sure what I'm hearing and where to shoot. I particularly love using the sniper rifle and scope with this method, wait, wait, booom! shot to the head! Beware th eGrue! DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:44 PM Subject: [Audyssey] playing swamp hey when playing swamp do you have to center the zombies exactly? sometimes I think I have them centered but when I shoot I miss them. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yes, but it makes fun of the bible rather then holding true to it. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @darren_duff friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 On 4/30/2015 2:22 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Didn't Jim Kitchen create a Bible file for his Trivia game? We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] playing swamp
They should be exactly in the center of your speakers. Remember that precision counts a lot in swamp. -- From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] playing swamp hey when playing swamp do you have to center the zombies exactly? sometimes I think I have them centered but when I shoot I miss them. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
One story I always remember hearing which even made my local news once upon a time was about a chap who had supposedly just won some money on the lottery, not one of the major jack pots but a nice some of cash, around a thousand pounds or so. Supposedly, he had run across the road to cash in his ticket, but not taking much care had got hit by a bus, which resulted in him being sent to hospital with two broken legs. Whilst in hospital he opend his day's horroscope which happened to be for scorpio, and read the sentence: great rewards might be in store, but look before you leep or you could end up crushed and broken :D. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Okay, need to chime in here. :) In college, a guy friend was talking to me about his current relationship. Just for fun we picked up the paper and he went to his horoscope. It said, You will talk to a friend today about a relationship! lol! I kid you not! :) Just thought y'all would get a kick! We certainly did! Smiles, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charles, Yes, exactly my view. I've been told the same thing over the years. I often times read the horoscopes not because I actually believe in them but for entertainment purposes only. Sometimes I get a laugh at the predictions. I'll never forget this one time my horoscope said not to eat spaghetti because I'd end up embarrassing myself by spilling it in my lap. So just for fun I had spaghetti for dinner that night. Nothing of course happened. So apparently reading that prediction had no ill effects on my life. The thing is I am a skeptic at heart when it comes to supernatural claims and often see things like astrology as just bunk to put it politely. So think it is amusing when a religious person tells me not to read my horoscope because it seems like they are putting more faith in its validity than I do. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi thomas sir! and everyone in the list. The thing is that parents are not careful about their children so that they are commiting sucides I am amazed that when dark sir said that a girl commited suicide because of the slenderman he is the poor character I think. Only he teleports and do nothing. as for thomas sir's post about media in my opinion they work for TRP. they want to creat a news for their own purpose. So for the blind gamers there are not much game where you have to be violent so don't worry. Thanks Ishan On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: My appologies tom. I am just a little tired of Charlse always bringing up this point and winjing about English accents (and by extention braille), which i have seen him do a good many times before, so I hoped to set the matter finally to rest with a practical example. This is my last word on the subject. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Charles and Dark, Please, take the debate over how to pronounce Lager off list. It really has no place here. Apparently from what I heard of Dark's mp3 people in the UK pronounce lager differently than we do so deal with it. There are a lot of things we say differently and as long as we can understand what a person means debates as this one have no place on this or any other entertainment list. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
Aggreed chareles I have a friend that plays such games on his headset but yeah once you are mature yeah. My issue with some games is if they emulate life to closely. I use games as an escape doing something I wouldn't do in real life. I guess if I was in a gang already playing this game then it would be a problem or if I was thinking about doing this sort of thing in real life it would be an issue. But since I am not a starship pilot or gang member or anything in all the games I play then its all ok. Not to say there are games I don't play because its a bit to close to reality. survive the wild is one of those, while I am not lost in the wild my life while not that bad does have sertain elements off that game in it and its to close to home really. Psychostrike is really good but I agree I won't be playing this in short bursts. At 03:59 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: If I had sons, they would have to play GTA elsewhere, if even there. Part of parenting is making sure that your kids play appropriate games, watch appropriate TV, and such. Also, I would make sure that they know that games are in no way reality. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike game
Hi. I use mines to kill some of them and beat down the doors. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh K Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] psycho strike game hey guys in psycho strike how do you avoid the police? it seems like in the prison there are too many of them and I jump over them and fight some but eventually always get caught. so what do you guys do? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 6:53 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles and Dark, Please, take the debate over how to pronounce Lager off list. It really has no place here. Apparently from what I heard of Dark's mp3 people in the UK pronounce lager differently than we do so deal with it. There are a lot of things we say differently and as long as we can understand what a person means debates as this one have no place on this or any other entertainment list. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game
You don't buy weapons. You just buy ammo for them. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Hi everyone! couple of questions here. 1 after killing people and picking up cash I buy a new pistol but it is not listed in the weapons. 2 I want to recruit other criminals can I do this in demo? if yes then how? 3 If I have a team then how can I give them commands like follow stop and others? Thanks Ishan On 4/28/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi. I'd rather not install a game if it doesn't have music and sounds which is why I check first. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game So many such questions could probably be answered by checking the site or trying the game?? Things like Does it have music and sounds? Will it work with Windows XP? are probably right at people's fingertips if only they would reach out just a bit! --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Is this game compatible with xp? Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 16:34, Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, vaults and prison door need some beating up with a melee weapon before they really break. When you break a vault the money is just there for you to take. When you break a prison door, the prisoner runs to your base, so you have to get out of the prison and check your base to find him. Best regards Sarah Am 27.04.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Bryan Peterson: I'm guessing you didn't read the manual. It says each mission, the only exception being the party, has an exit that you can use whenever you wish. It's on the left side. Walk uup to it and press Shift+Enter. As for your money you don't raise it all in one session. The part I'm not lear about is robbing vaults and getting allies. I've tried both levels and it sounded like I broke down a few doors but nothing seemed to happen afterwards. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Bogdan Muresan Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 4:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Hi all. I have a question regarding the game. How to finish the mission? I think that is so much to collect 1 in a session. On 4/27/2015 3:32 AM, michael maslo wrote: It has both. It is so much fun -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:18 PM To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Hi. Does this have music and sound effects or is it text only? Thanks. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:45 PM To: dark; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Hi Dark, No, the game uses keyboard input only. There are quite a few keystrokes, but they are fairly easy to memorize. Good luck and have fun! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall On 4/26/2015 10:37 PM, dark wrote: This is sounding very awsome indeed! Just one question. Does it involve mouse control? I have no problem if it does, indeed mouse control is cool, however if so I'll need to wait until tuesday before playing because currently I'm on my laptop at my parents which doesn't have a mouse (it has a touch pad but some rather bad swamp experiments prove I am no good with this for gaming). I will say gangsters aren't a favourite theme of mine, but on the other hand I love exploring, rpgs, stratogy and action games, so I'm certainly looking forward to giving this one a try, indeed I very much suspect I'll end up buying it as I did paladin of the skies. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game Hi all! VGStorm.com and Blastbay Studios are happy to announce the availability of our new game, Psycho Strike! Psycho Strike is a mix between an RPG, a first person shooter and an adventure game. It captures the best parts of each genre in order to create a truly unique and groundbreaking gaming experience. In Psycho Strike, you take the roll of a gangster leader. Throughout your
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and paypal accounts
In response to the points about physical CD's versus download and/or paypal accounts. I was not necessarily suggesting that a physical CD be involved, merely a code key that would have to be mailed separately. However, as I also said in the original post, I don't expect VGStorm to do either. It is extra cost that would have to be passed on to consumers, and for a small company like VGStorm that's an unacceptable cost. I fully understand both the reality of the new gaming environment, and the position of Aaron's company; there's a fine balance between how you deliver games, how much they cost, and what precautions you have to take to avoid cracking, in this case improper download by minors, etc. I offered two suggestions. Neither is a super practical one. However, that said, I do not think that as game developers we have to say everyone else markets graphically violent games, therefore as long as I have a warning, I've done my bit. With a physical game, such as Grand Theft Auto which several people have brought up, in most places, a kid can't just walk in and buy the game. They're usually behind a counter, in a locked case, etc. That's not to say that kids do not play them without parental supervision, but I, like Thomas, monitor what my kids do, and I like it when companies at least produce an illusion of controlling who their products go to. As to Paypal, honestly, it's been years since I set up a Paypal account, and my memory of it is hazy. However, I know a lot of kids have bank accounts. Just as with anything else, it could be finagled. However, I think you're missing my essential point here. Once someone buys the game, they've gone through some effort either in getting a credit card by hook or by crook, or by accomplishing the goal some other way. My issue, isn't so much with the purchase as with the fact that this game is extremely violent, starts off with a extremely anti-social incident as the motivation for the entire rest of the game, and not only can anyone who downloads it play that sequence, but they are forced to to play the rest of the game. I'm not worried about the 10 year old kid who plays this game after buying it because they dupe their parents. I'm pointing out that any 10 year old can download and play the game. I feel that any developer, myself included, needs to consider these sorts of things when developing a game. If the game is free to download in either a demo mode or a full version, and it contains graphic content, no matter yur definition of minor or adult, you have to realize that people are downloading it. A warning message probably exacerbates this more than it stops people. It would have for me when I was younger. A friend of mine and I cracked Leisure Suit Larry back in the eighties precisely because we weren't supposed to. If the first sequence were modified or removed, this game would still bother me for the violence, but it would have set off my warning sensors a lot less. Thanks for listening yet again:) Take care, Jeremy On 4/29/15, gamers-requ...@audyssey.org gamers-requ...@audyssey.org wrote: Send Gamers mailing list submissions to gamers@audyssey.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gamers-requ...@audyssey.org You can reach the person managing the list at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Gamers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: psycho strike help (Aaron Baker) 2. Re: psycho strike some observations (Thomas Ward) 3. Re: psycho strike some observations (Thomas Ward) 4. Psycho strike help part 2 (michael maslo) 5. Re: psycho strike some observations and other related topics bundled together (Desiree Oudinot) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 22:44:58 -0400 From: Aaron Baker theultimatemasterofarc...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike help Message-ID: cag+yvalglqg9vqt_ixy-c5c66wq9hfpimvjyc6s6wrt_nyz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, Under manage characters, select your character and hit give person's name food. You have to kill the weapon shop owner. You won't be able to shoot him unless you have a gun, so you will have to hit them with the knife. On 4/29/15, michael maslo michaelmasl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I bought the game and I have to admit I love the game! I have a few questions please. 1. It says I have 117 food in my place. I hit f at the main menu once I have loaded my character. My question is though it says I have 117 food when I hit N while on a mission it says I have 0 rations. How do i get the food as a ration before I starve to
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
My appologies tom. I am just a little tired of Charlse always bringing up this point and winjing about English accents (and by extention braille), which i have seen him do a good many times before, so I hoped to set the matter finally to rest with a practical example. This is my last word on the subject. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Charles and Dark, Please, take the debate over how to pronounce Lager off list. It really has no place here. Apparently from what I heard of Dark's mp3 people in the UK pronounce lager differently than we do so deal with it. There are a lot of things we say differently and as long as we can understand what a person means debates as this one have no place on this or any other entertainment list. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
I do think though tom that the major fact will be later on when you have a few members. Stratogys for example who you take on what mission, etc. who you leave etc. I have managed to proceed quite far but once yhou have weapons it gets harder as the enemy gets those to, factories have electric barriors to. The game is a good stress releaver. I do agree with the party thing, there should be some other scenarios for the starting character. Ie, why you would willingly just go to a party to kill 10 people is beyond me. I'd like some other scenarios to start off your char. And that sort of thing. At 03:02 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hello Jeremy, You aren't alone. I do agree with a lot of what you had to say below, and it is a major reason why I in all likelihood won't be buying the game. Yes, while the sounds, voice acting, etc are all fine as it is I just found the senseless violence, murder, and mayhem not to my liking. While fighting and killing in a combat situation usually doesn't bother me I found the idea of just walking into a party and killing 10 people for no reason sick and immoral. Same goes with the farm mission. I love animals, and the sound of killing goats for no reason really bothered me. Bothered me so much I uninstalled the game shortly there after because I just couldn't play the game after that. That is not to say I think the game is a bad game. I just personally dislike the degree of violence and senseless killing involved in the game. It bothered me in away few games do. It is one thing to be killing zombies in a game like Swamp since they aren't real people or can justifiably be called monsters. It is a total and morally different issue to walk into a party, mall, jail, or somewhere and just start killing people at random for little reason. Cheers! On 4/29/15, Jeremy Brown tyr...@gmail.com wrote: So, I read the documentation, and I've played one game. Admittedly, that's a small data sample, but I want to make the following observations: 1. The game sound design and the game play are very nice. The hot keys are for the most part very intuitive, and the movement and menu systems all work as expected. Breaking the game into distinct zones that you get to from a menu and then sidescroll through made a lot of sense and avoided some obvious navigational issues. Some auditory cues could have been perhaps a little more pronounced for my taste, but overall, I got it. 2. I found the character motivation very flimsy. First off, just deciding to homicidally kill everyone at a party as my first action in a criminal career in which I want to amass a gang and get money and better weapons didn't click for me. Good crime bosses avoid entanglements with the police and such situations. Further, mass murderers of the type depicted in the first sequence aren't your buddy film types imo. 3. On a moral ground, I have severe issues with the character motivation, the game scoring, and the presentation of violence. The character motivation as character motivation was discussed above, but giving a player a choice of either body count or cash as a means of keeping score struck me as sort of sick. Further, I have a hard time justifying the developer's decision to release a game with this sort of content that can be downloaded directly and played at least as a demo, with no blocks in place to keep minors from playing it. All such blocks have issues, there's no good way to police such issues, but given that the first sequence is the murder of ten defenseless people for no better reason than you decided to strikes me a socially irresponsible. The game play is awesome, the game design has a lot of good points, but minus several million for good taste and well-thought out character motivations. This game could have been improved immensely merely by introducing more motivation. You're a poor caterer who's about to lose their job, be turned out on the streets and a mysterious man drives up to you, he offers to set you up in comfort if you kill a certain man at the party. Unfortunatley, he does not have any way of identifying the man. While still morally reprehensible, this at least gives the player some reason to be doing this. Further, if more patrons have some means of fighting back other than police, then it might be less objectionable to me. I play violent games: every rpg, mud, etc is essentially no different in terms of raw violence. However, basing a game on killing people who are screaming don't hurt me strikes me, as I said before, as completely irresponsible. Take care, Jeremy -- In the fight between you and the world--back the world! Frank Zapa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
and this list is not all descussion most of it is now on the audiogames forums now. At 03:49 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: You're absolutely right. This list is a conduit for game information and discussion. Not just of a certain type of games, but all gaming that is playable, whether through design or not, by blind gamers. When I read the very first part of your message, I thought of the Dad who buys an electric train set for his kid. He must check it out to be sure that it works, right? So, there you would be, playing the game you got for your son, and he's whining, Come on, Dad! Let me try it! It's mine! And you're saying, In a minute, son. I've got to make sure that it's right for you. Two hours later, ellipsis, --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations Desiree, Agreed. The responsibility belongs with the parents not the developer. When my son wants a video game I always do my best to check it out, find out what kind of content is in it before deciding to purchase it for him. I do not however blame the developer for having violence, adult oriented sexual content, or any other objectionable content in the game because I know it is my duty as a parent to decide weather or not to purchase the game. Same goes with a game like Psycho Strike. I don't blame VG Storm for making the game. I know my opinions of the game are a personal opinion based on my own ethical sensibilities and probably will not purchase the game for same. That doesn't mean I don't think anyone else can play it and enjoy it, because I am not that kind of person to shove my own thoughts and beliefs down everyone's throat. I could, for instance, ban the game from this list, but I wouldn't do that because I believe in people's right to free speech and to play whatever games they personally feel comfortable with within legal means. Cheers! On 4/29/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Can I also point out that the irresponsible thing would be for a parent to actually purchase this game for a minor? Because, let's be realistic here. Lots of kids live this kind of life. They know what violence is. And most children don't have the funds to buy a $25 game without some outside help. The outside help would, in essence, be the negligent party here, not the developers. Furthermore, I like to imagine, although I'm sure it's inaccurate, that this game is kind of a screw you to polite society and political correctness. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
Tom it depends on the player in question. This game is not for a newby by any means. I have played games for a number of years and while the story is a bit lacking in some arieas its one you make your own story as you go. I have played gangster games online and have liked that well the idea of being a gang leader. For me this is a way to be one without leaving my chair to do it. I do agree that this is not for everyone. But then if you really didn't care for killing you would have stayd away from most shooters etc. At 03:24 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, weather the violence in the game is harmless or not is up for debate. In my personal opinion it is harmless in the sense that nobody really gets hurt, it isn't really hurting anyone in real life, but I find the nature of the violence in the game emotionally disturbing. For example, when the game first loads you walk into a party and just start stabbing people at random to death until all 10 of the party goers are dead. We could argue that it is just a game, that we are just acting out the part of a psychopathic killer, but for me doing so is still unethical because I don't take killing people lightly. I'm one of those sorts of people who is in favor of abolishing the death penalty in the U.S. and am active in other humanitarian groups so just walking into a party, bar, or some other place and killing people in a game isn't my idea of fun or entertainment. It goes against my moral and ethical inclinations to do so, and I found the game disturbing to say the least. I suppose that is why when I have enemies in my own games they aren't particularly human. In MOTA, for instance, the enemies are skeletons,harpies, centaurs, and so forth. Those are monsters not people. Therefore I don't feel any ethical or moral objection to killing them. Same goes with mowing down hoards of zombies in Swamp. I don't consider zombies people so have no objection to slicing, dicing, or killing as many of them as I can. On 4/29/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Desiree, interesting comment on violence. I will say this is why I don't tend to enjoy crime based games such as torn city or I mobsters myself. Nottingham where I grew up and where my parents live has the highest gun crime rate in the Uk and one of the highest over all in the country, it really is one of these cities where you don't walk around in the city center after dark. That is why I don't live there anymore, but also why crime has never particularly interested me in a game sinse hay if I want to see da gangers hangin in da getto I hardly need to play a game :D. That being said all I've heard of Psycho strike's gameplay has been hugely interesting, and a bit of harmless violence provided it is harmless violence can be fun on occasion, so I'll reserve judgement until I've tried the thing. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Harry Potter, games, and the like - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Charles, I am in total agreement with you. I can recall plenty of times asking a number of people just that, did they read such and such a book or play such and such a game, with the usual response they won't because it is ungodly, evil, etc. Like you I find myself responding by telling them they are misinformed and that all they are doing is repeating a roomer not a fact. They are forming an opinion based on a biase, and usually someone else's biased opinion at that. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When I hear someone saying that these are evil and unGodly, the first question I ask is, Have you read the books or played the game or watch others playing it? If the answer is something like, No. And I won't. Our Pastor said, blah, blah, blah, my immediate response is, In that case, because you are getting all of your information from one source, and you have no personal experience from which to form an opinion, you are uninformed on the subject, and your opinion is totally skewed. Although I may value someone else's opinion and judgment, the opinion and judgment are theirs, not mine. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi jodi I am also agreed with you I think if we can sell drugs in colege like most smugglers do. also every man has his own ability. so some are for recieving trucks of drugs and ammo and some will for battle. why we are killing people? we should be more flexible and do more crime. like kidnapping and threatening people. Thanks Ishan On 4/30/15, Jody McKinniss jlove42...@gmail.com wrote: I finally checked my email, so I saw the posts on this game and the debate on violent content, etc. So here's my opinion after playing it for some time. In the real world I am 36 years of age, and I am probably one of the most tenderhearted, nonviolent people you'll ever meet. I'm the guy who will give his last dollar to the homeless man in the doorway, or give him the shirt off my back. I am anti-death penalty, for several reasons. The thought of taking another human life is repugnant to me. I myself have been a victim of both domestic violence as well as criminal violence by a stranger. So in the real world, if someone were doing what the characters in this game are doing, then I'd be horrified. That being said, I love the game. I get the chance to play the complete opposite of who I am in the real world in a fictional one, with no reprisals, no consequences. How cool is that? I grew up with games like Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Double Dragon, etc. I've had GTA described to me, and there are parts of that game that are extremely graphic. I even tried out DD when I was younger, around 13 or so, despite all the people I've heard saying how evil that particular game is. But guess what? Despite my playing games with violent content in my younger years, I'm not a cold-bloodded killer, I don't fantasize about becoming some psycho serial killer, I don't have waking dreams of mass murdering everyone around me. So my opinion is that everyone should relax a little bit and give us credit for the brain that we have, that we can separate a fictional world from the real one. And let's give parents some credit as well, that they know their children and whether they can handle a game like this. Let's all just have fun with a game that gives us good guys a chance to be bad. There's a definite appeal to letting my hair down in an alternate world, to doing things in that world I know for certain I wouldn't do in the real one. Now, some suggestions for Aaron for future releases: Several things could be included to increase the storyline, to augment your goals. For example, we're a gang, right? Most gangs nowadays are usually into drugs, weapons, some way to make cash if they're not robbing banks. So perhaps give us a stage where we can sell weapons that we get from the guys we kill that we don't need. (I've got over 300 pistol cartridges that I will never use, over 100 knives, etc). It could be a pawn shop, or it could be that we're unknowingly selling weapons to another gang, which just might come back to haunt us, or even undercover ATF or FBI. Add a stage where we can sell drugs to people on the street, and add in undercover cops, local at first, then DEA and FBI once we reach a certain level, that try to thwart our efforts. To help neutralize that threat, we could have the ability to try to bribe some cops, get them on our payroll. Another thing you should include is rival gangs. We're causing all this mayhem, stacking up body counts and cash, and in the process we're taking the glory and attention away from the resident gangs of the city, and now they want their streets back. So our next job gets crashed not only by the cops, but by members of a rival gang or two from the city. So now starts the gang war, and the battles will increase territory and unlock stages for us if we win, as well as providing us with the spoils of different weapons, more cash, and drugs that we can then try to sell or distribute amongst ourselves. And perhaps if we fight well enough, or if we sell enough drugs successfully and take enough of their customers, the rival gang might just get displeased enough to call in a big cartel to try to bring us down. And if we manage to defeat the cartel, we get one hell of a reward...smile. Also, if the shotgun is the best weapon of this first release, definitely some automatic weapons should be included in the next one. And I'm done rambling for now, lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations and other relatedtopics bundled together
Hi I think the game is cool and little buggy as I am saying repeatedly because the game crashes whenever I am trying to trash a cartrage of pistol. as far as the suggestions goes I will with carlos in AG forum and agreed for a story line. the mission have a spesific order and the game have some FPS elements. if you are in the city you there should a car where we can ride do accidents and other stuff. cheat codes should be added arron and more detail see my other post. Thanks Ishan On 4/30/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, I agree with you, Dark. Do I think the game could stand to be a bit more realistic? Sure. Over on the Audiogames forum, I've made an extensive list of suggestions that I do hope are implemented in some way. I don't think it's very representative of gang life, or really any crime spree that I've ever heard of. What it is, for me at least, is a beat 'em up that was designed for generally causing havoc and destruction and having a good time doing it. If the game is never updated, I would still be ok with what it is. I think the sounds would probably be a bit graphic for some people, but that is why the warning is in place. There's also the option within the game to turn off adult language, although I realize that's not the same thing, but it still sort of falls under the same category. On 4/29/2015 9:03 PM, dark wrote: @JEremy I think you might have missunderstood my points, or maybe sinse it is getting a little late I did not put them clearly enough. My point about miners was not to say well people see this all the time so it's okay that is a pretty stupid ethical arguement sinse by that deffinition any bad practice which has persisted could be maintained simply on basis of tradition. my point was that miner is a pretty lose term. Society and the law has these magic numbers around age. Suddenly at 15 or 16 (depending upon country), viewing of violence becomes okay. Suddenly at 18 a person can decide to get married where they couldn't previously. These rules are pretty dam arbitrary. I've met twelve year olds who's views, outlook and maturity are closer to adult (heck I rather was one myself), and I've met 30 year olds who still act like morons. The idea of an arbitrary limit, particularly on something like viewing or watching certain subject is pretty odd in and of itself. Thus, all a developer can do is give a warning and advice and leave things up to the individuals involved and their parents. I also frankly disagree with you about either printed materials or credit cards, sinse both would make it harder to pay for the game for everyone else much less have a playable demo, (besides I , and plus I tend to personally still hold to the theory that anyone old enough to be browsing the internet downloading and trying games on their own should be old enough to take warnings seriously. As regards my comments about criminality, what I meant was I get the impression the violence in the game is intended as rather absurdist and indeed psychotic in nature, not a serious impression of crime or even of genre crime fiction. I could well be incorrect sinse I've not been able to play the game yet, but from the description that was the note I thought the game was going for, which puts things in a slightly different light, sinse just as I wouldn't usually condone a game like rampage as I mentioned involving shear mindless destruction of cities, the commic violence was actually sort of fun in the same way godzilla is in the films. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
To be honest tom I am mindfull of what games I play near what family I have a religious part of the family, so I keep this game and my other adult games out of reach. When no one is home then those games are blasting out the speakers and I am killing people left right and centre. Fact is though I have sometimes had the situation where someone has come and have had to quit the program in question. I really wouldn't mind to keep the evil part of my life to myself when I am alone with myself. Right now I guess the main reason I got this stuff is to releave some stress with some house building its needed I know and it has meant a lot of my other online gaming has to stop while its going on. From time to time I need to get out of the noise and things for 10 minutes. So I just go and take out the stress on a game I have done this with shades of doom to. After I have done this I have felt a lot better or at least able to survive another few hours of mess. So I guess we have our own reasons. Ofcause there are games where you are a terrorist shooting people for no reason etc. And yeah some games have no story at all. This game could be an interesting thing but its not something I'd play for more than 10 minutes a day. At 03:08 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations and other related topics bundled together
Game disks are so yesteryear anyway. Yes you can get disks of things you download for some things but the companies do charge for them the cd is 12 bucks. The only other time I have ever ordered a cd is for extra features. Future boy is a prime example. Yes I could just get the game. But a simple cd would give me my game and the deluxe cd would give me the game for al os types and a programmer's manual which I have never read. At 03:21 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: If a CD of the game was available, the price would rise exponentially. Then people would be complaining about the high price. This would also exclude those in countries who would pay much more for shipping than is reasonable. Even if there was a choice, physical medium or digital download, how many people would actually pick a physical medium today? Disks don't usually stand the test of time. What happens if, 5 years down the road, someone wants to reinstall the game, but can't because they don't have their game disk anymore? What if, God forbid, by that point VG Storm is no longer in existance? We would have another Bavisoft fiasco all over again, and you know as well as I do the backlash they would receive for using an antiquated system. Finally, is it really that easy to create a Paypal account if you're under 18? I honestly don't know, which is why I'm asking, but it doesn't seem like an easy task depending on the age of the child and his or her knowledge of finances. You would still need either a credit card or a bank account to make the transaction. On 4/29/2015 8:20 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote: First, to all of you that have responded thus far, thanks for actually responding. I'm going to address the issues in one mail to try and save time and space. As to Charles' comments that criminals are by definition anti-social and the name of the game basically implies what to expect, agreed on both counts. However, choosing to make a psychopathic killer the hero or main character of a game is a game developer decision. My choice as a consumer is to vote for the game or not by either buying it or not. Gangsters don't interest me as a gamer, so I doubt that this particular concept would have intrigued me even if the handling had been different. In response to some of Dark's points: RE: minors and their definition Besides, what is exactly a miner seems pretty debatable, hay I was watching the alien filmes and nightmare on elm street when i was 10 years old, not to mention playing games like mortal combat and moonstone, and I was quite fine with the idea that these were games and the difference between playing a game where I slice someone up with a big nasty blade and doing the same in reality, likewise violence in and of itself never did, or indeed never does bother me for just being bloody or graphic. Back to Jeremy: I was six when I saw the first Alien film. I don't think it psychologically scarred me for life; that said, I don't think it was responsible of my older brother who had charge of me at the time to allow it. One does not negate the other. Just because minor is somewhat fluid, saying well people see this all the time does not relieve the social responsibility of the producer. RE: warning message In the game's description on the Vgstorm website there is the message: Back to Jeremy: Agreed, and I applaud the developers for including this warning. Further, I agree that there's no good system for keeping minors from buying such a game, however, there are a couple of systems that would be more effective than the current one. Making the game only purchasable with a credit card for instance will exclude many many minors. Itm ight exclude legitimate customers with bad credit as well, but this is the sort of decision one must make. Many games in the past have used a dual system of printed material that is mailed to a consumer in addition to the game disk or download. Such a mailing might get the attention of parents. Neither of these options is a perfect solution, and I don't expect VGStorm to use either. I'm merely pointing out that ignoring the problem completely and going with a warning label and good intentions is not the only way to handle such problems. RE: Violence and motivation (This one responds to Dark and Desree) Jeremy's comments here: I frankly have to just disagree with you on this one Dark. I just can't see a psychopathic criminal who kills people at a party to start their career as a person who would form a gang. First off, for that person to be at that party they have to have been invited. This implies a certain amount of familiarity or intimacy with at least one party goer. Further, as we both agreed, avoiding criminal entanglement with authorities is the best way to be a successful criminal. As to the way the violence is presented, I did not get any bafoon comedy violence vibe. Further, it doesn't strike me as a screw you to society politically correct or not. It strikes me as an
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
yeah this is a definately r18 and higher. Its even got the right warnings on it. You really don't want this game if you are disturbed or even if you are not I wouldn't recomend you jump straight in to it either. I'd actually start with some of the gangster choiceofgames games first to see if you like that style. I watched the sopranos on tv and this was my attraction. Now while I like the sound of stabbing wimen to death and robbing banks etc I do realise that this is a good stress releaver and a good game. I wouldn't for example go on a rampage stabbing my way to victory for example. At 11:12 a.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Can I also point out that the irresponsible thing would be for a parent to actually purchase this game for a minor? Because, let's be realistic here. Lots of kids live this kind of life. They know what violence is. And most children don't have the funds to buy a $25 game without some outside help. The outside help would, in essence, be the negligent party here, not the developers. Furthermore, I like to imagine, although I'm sure it's inaccurate, that this game is kind of a screw you to polite society and political correctness. On 4/29/2015 6:59 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: I haven't played the game, but you point out how irresponsible and reprehensible the character is. It makes sense that the character would be this way. After all, the character is a criminal. Taking thin under consideration along with the name of the game, well, there you go. Two plus two equals four. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Jeremy Brown tyr...@gmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations So, I read the documentation, and I've played one game. Admittedly, that's a small data sample, but I want to make the following observations: 1. The game sound design and the game play are very nice. The hot keys are for the most part very intuitive, and the movement and menu systems all work as expected. Breaking the game into distinct zones that you get to from a menu and then sidescroll through made a lot of sense and avoided some obvious navigational issues. Some auditory cues could have been perhaps a little more pronounced for my taste, but overall, I got it. 2. I found the character motivation very flimsy. First off, just deciding to homicidally kill everyone at a party as my first action in a criminal career in which I want to amass a gang and get money and better weapons didn't click for me. Good crime bosses avoid entanglements with the police and such situations. Further, mass murderers of the type depicted in the first sequence aren't your buddy film types imo. 3. On a moral ground, I have severe issues with the character motivation, the game scoring, and the presentation of violence. The character motivation as character motivation was discussed above, but giving a player a choice of either body count or cash as a means of keeping score struck me as sort of sick. Further, I have a hard time justifying the developer's decision to release a game with this sort of content that can be downloaded directly and played at least as a demo, with no blocks in place to keep minors from playing it. All such blocks have issues, there's no good way to police such issues, but given that the first sequence is the murder of ten defenseless people for no better reason than you decided to strikes me a socially irresponsible. The game play is awesome, the game design has a lot of good points, but minus several million for good taste and well-thought out character motivations. This game could have been improved immensely merely by introducing more motivation. You're a poor caterer who's about to lose their job, be turned out on the streets and a mysterious man drives up to you, he offers to set you up in comfort if you kill a certain man at the party. Unfortunatley, he does not have any way of identifying the man. While still morally reprehensible, this at least gives the player some reason to be doing this. Further, if more patrons have some means of fighting back other than police, then it might be less objectionable to me. I play violent games: every rpg, mud, etc is essentially no different in terms of raw violence. However, basing a game on killing people who are screaming don't hurt me strikes me, as I said before, as completely irresponsible. Take care, Jeremy -- In the fight between you and the world--back the world! Frank Zapa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With Psycho Strike
Hi thomas ward sir! why not you try shift enter after pressing this key you wil in the base and the last option is exit psycho strike. Thanks Ishan On 4/30/15, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aaron, I have no idea why, but alt+f4 definitely did not work. In any case might I suggest that besides the p key for the pause menu adding that to escape as well? One of the reasons I missed the ability to exit is I assumed VG Storm would have escape assigned to exit game, which is pretty standard, so was very surprised when escape did nothing and I didn't know to press p and return to menu to get out of the game. A case of non-standard user interface causing unnecessary confusion. Cheers! On 4/29/15, Aaron Baker theultimatemasterofarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Alt F4 should have worked unless you are using one of those new computers that blocks it. P is the key to pause the game. From there, you can hit return to main menu. This will not save if you have not saved. The only other way out of the mission is obviously to leave with shift enter on the exit point. Best, Aaron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed 2 Windows and Mac Test Clients
Hello, Yes, that's right. Entombed 2 is completely separate from Entombed 1. Separate tech and completely re-written from the ground up. As for pricing, I'm not sure yet. I think it will be similar to Entombed 1's pricing. It's called the Skeleton Tower and you indeed do go up, but not in the alpha demo. The story and other additions I'll let you know later. I don't want to over-promise and under-deliver. It will be similar scope to Entombed. Possibly larger. Nearly all the game code is written in Lua and can easily be modified to make new additions and changes. The core of the game is written in C# and using Unity for cross-platform compiling. Sorry to hear it's not working on your Mac. I'm developing it on an iMac with Yosemite. I'd expect it to work on nearly any Mac, but it's still early. I might be able to improve the compatibility. Cheers! Jason On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Travis Siegel tsie...@nfbcal.org wrote: I've not read this thread yet, but on my imac running 10.6 Snow Leopard, I can't get it to let me do anything, all I get is voiceover busy, and I have to force quit the program. hth. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Goat Sim -was- Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Actually there is a goat simulator on iOS but I'm betting it is not accessible. In it you do exactly the sorts of things you mention. :) Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep agree there. now to change the subject I've been playing psycho strike and have been killing goats. its lots of fun this game! I'd love to see a goat simulator where you play the part of a goat and you can just run around and bash cars and stuff with your horns, kick people, eat grass, and do other bad rampaging goat stuff now that would be fun! if anyone makes a goat sim I'll buy it. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] psycho strike game
hey guys in psycho strike how do you avoid the police? it seems like in the prison there are too many of them and I jump over them and fight some but eventually always get caught. so what do you guys do? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 6:53 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles and Dark, Please, take the debate over how to pronounce Lager off list. It really has no place here. Apparently from what I heard of Dark's mp3 people in the UK pronounce lager differently than we do so deal with it. There are a lot of things we say differently and as long as we can understand what a person means debates as this one have no place on this or any other entertainment list. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Charles, There are a few Bible trivia games on applevis which are accessible. I know Bible trivia is one of them but I can't remember the names of the others offhand. Sent from my iPad On 1 May 2015, at 4:12 am, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Thanks. I'll look again. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Appleman appleman310...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions Hi Charles, There are a few Bible trivia games on applevis which are accessible. I know Bible trivia is one of them but I can't remember the names of the others offhand. Sent from my iPad On 1 May 2015, at 4:12 am, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Charles and Dark, Please, take the debate over how to pronounce Lager off list. It really has no place here. Apparently from what I heard of Dark's mp3 people in the UK pronounce lager differently than we do so deal with it. There are a lot of things we say differently and as long as we can understand what a person means debates as this one have no place on this or any other entertainment list. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Charlse, you are directly incorrect, and to be honest I'm getting a little tired of you making this constant point about the way myself, and most people in England speak. So, I have recorded this file, which is me saying the words lager and logger, and then reading your previous mail with Orphius (my appologies for the speaker bit, I didn't have time to put my quad speakers into optimum mike position but it should be audible). Hopefully this will finally knock this silly linguistic idea on the head. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/zyccve Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Maybe this is where speech synthesis comes into play, because a logger might drink a lager. You cannot hear the difference, because there isn't any audible difference. Braille beats speech hands down. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Jody, An excellent point. In many of the cases where murder or suicide is involved in someone playing a game or appears that way probably has more to do with some mental illness and other issues that have nothing to do with the game. It is just in our society today where the media has to find something sensational to report or make something sound more sensational than it really is they try and draw conclusions about the murder or suicide that may have no basis in reality. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Jody McKinniss jlove42...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect that the people responsible for any murders or suicides related to DD or any other game had some serious mental illness issues, and their decisions had much more to do with that illness than with the games themselves. So to call any game evil based on behaviors committed by someone severely compromised by mental illness is ridiculous, especially when you consider that even had they not played the game in question, their ultimate behavior would most likely have occurred anyway. The suicide and/or murder wasn't committed because of DD, it was done so because of the imbalance in the person's brain, and likely would have resulted even if the person had never engaged in the aforementioned activities. My uncle is a prime example. He played DD for hours and hours as a teenager, days at a time without sleep on a few occasions, engaged in paintball (Which is basically simulated hunting/killing, I believe), had several game consoles with graphically violent games. Last time I saw him, he was 26 years of age. He still had the latest game consoles, and a majority of his games were fighting, violent, and bloody. Yet in the real world he's a husband, the Vice President of a company, a productive and contributing member of society who loves his wife and his familye. So again, to the people who are so uptight in this country about every little thing, I say relax. Have fun doing something in an alternate world that you know damn well you wouldn't do in your everyday life. I believe that the everyday average Joe's mind is capable of separating ffantasy from reality, and the few that do act out what they hear, see, read, etc., are burdened with illnesses that would have eventually led to adverse behavior anyway. Like I said, the thought of taking a human life in the real world is appalling to me, as it is to most people probably. But I definitely like kicking some ass in psycho strike, lol. I managed to get the rifle last night before I went to sleep. It's better than the shotgun, but Aaron, it is definitely my opinion that automatic weapons should be included in the next release. I just hope that you've managed to see suggestions buried in with all of the debate surrounding violence, religion, and other things. Lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Okay, need to chime in here. :) In college, a guy friend was talking to me about his current relationship. Just for fun we picked up the paper and he went to his horoscope. It said, You will talk to a friend today about a relationship! lol! I kid you not! :) Just thought y'all would get a kick! We certainly did! Smiles, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charles, Yes, exactly my view. I've been told the same thing over the years. I often times read the horoscopes not because I actually believe in them but for entertainment purposes only. Sometimes I get a laugh at the predictions. I'll never forget this one time my horoscope said not to eat spaghetti because I'd end up embarrassing myself by spilling it in my lap. So just for fun I had spaghetti for dinner that night. Nothing of course happened. So apparently reading that prediction had no ill effects on my life. The thing is I am a skeptic at heart when it comes to supernatural claims and often see things like astrology as just bunk to put it politely. So think it is amusing when a religious person tells me not to read my horoscope because it seems like they are putting more faith in its validity than I do. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: On the same idea, while I find a horoscope to be interesting to read, I don't believe in them or rely on them when it comes to what decisions I make today. The extremely religious say that I should not even read them. I disagree, because there is no harm in reading. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Tom. I understand where the believe comes from, but having been at least bought up a christian with a very different mentality it has just plane never made sense to me on a religious or personal level. I will admit the first time i met a practicing pagan (actually secretary of the British Wicken association), who freely and openly talked about spells i was a little disquieted, but when she explained that in pagan belief a spell is simply a practical or symbolic method of praying it made a lot more sense, indeed according to her a spell could be as simple as pouring your troubles into a cup of water and pouring them out on the ground. Again though her beliefs I don't particularly see as having anything to do with harry potter, DD or anything else anymore than I see the clerric's god enspired spells in DD having any baring on real religious practices at all, the two things are just in entirely separate compartments mentally which is why I find the idea of people who confuse the two utterly strange. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike and responsibility
I spent last night playing swamp in single player mode and it was lots of fun. I can't wait till we have holodecks then I could go in a room and play for real in a complete virtual reality! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/29/2015 11:43 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: I realize I'm coming down hard on pretty much all your points, Jeremy, but I have to respond to this message too. I don't think the party sequence is all that unusual. Well, unusual isn't the right word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment. What I mean is, how in the world is this any different than a person opening fire in a movie theater or a mall, or a school? All of these things have happened, and will probably happen again. Does that make them right? Of course not, but I really don't think I need to drive my point home any further. Maybe you, as the player, have some kind of dark motivation or mental illness. Should that be explained in the story? Well, that's debatable. Personally, I'm an imaginative individual, so I like to fill in the gaps myself in whichever way I choose. But I also think having a story wouldn't have been a bad idea. Also, judging by the background music, the party appears to take place in a club or something. How do we even know this celebration isn't a public venue of some sort? On 4/29/2015 9:38 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote: Dear Aaron, I agree that most games depict violence in far to cavalier a manner. I also give you cudos on both the warning labels, and the use of very gutwrenching and active clues that this is not socially acceptable behavior during game play. However, I do think that this sort of decision needs more justification than everyone else does it. If game developers do not take a stand on such issues, then we end up with a market glutted with games that peddle violence for the sake of unit sales. Now, that said, as I pointed out in both the original post that you are responding to, and in the second post, I'm not necessarily opposed to violence, but I think the opening sequence and motivation for the character are what I find dangerous as concepts for gaming. I hope to see these same game mechanics ideas and use of realism and graphic violence used in a more constructive way in future. I am merely stating an unease with this release, its method of delivery, and its content. You are free as a developer to give the public what it wants, and if this is what the public wants, they are free to buy it. I can buy or not buy, and as I said, vote with my dollars. No offense was meant, nor criticism of anything but the game's kick-off premise. I think the rest could maybe have been worked without this initial sequence and it would not have bothered me one bit. Take care, Jeremy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi tim. I'm still a little confused at this correspondance between DD and deaths, or indeed what you mean about a girl crawling around in the woods and DD. As far as I knowand have ever played, DD,like all tabletop games involves you and your friends and a game master sitting around in a nice warm house with your dice and character sheets (or electronic versions of same), essentially participating in a collective story the gm is telling. As I said, I can believe that someone probably has committed a murder or similar, but only the same way any social activity provokes murder. There's no directly violent action or running around with real weapons. This is a contrast from larp, live action role play which does! involve dressing up like your fantasy character and running around smacking each other with fake weapons. This is not something I've ever done or personally would particularly want to do (sinse I don't see the point of being physically limited to playing a blind character), however I have many friends who are keen larp fans, and they describe a very strict set of rules and code of conduct, such as having a licensed first aider, having only specific phome weapons usable, having a set guide when out in wild locations who is responsable for knowing where all the players are etc. ? indeed apparently at one point a couple of friends of mine were getting ready to go to one of their larp events dressing in gear, and were accosted by a drunken idiot wielding a large table knife saying I want to play too and swinging it around like a moron, their response was to phone the police! ? So, I don't particularly see Dd any more dangerous than any other in door social activity would be, and while larp does entail more risk, when run properly it's no more dangerous than say fencing, wilderness walking or other out door sports. ? Beware the grue! ? Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:22 AM, dark wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Dark, Well, I for one don't believe roll playing games like Dungeons and Dragons is evil in a religious sense, but I do know and understand where that system of beliefs comes from having been brought up in a Christian faith as a child. The basis of religious believers calling DD evil comes from a verse in Deuteronomy of not being partakers of witchcraft, magic, familiar spirits, etc. Basically, many Christians take that to mean that any participation in magic or the occult be it real or fantasy is forbidden and call fiction like Harry Potter or games like DD evil accordingly. Myself I strongly feel that view is taken out of context and there is a world of difference of actually practicing the occult and merely reading a story about it or playing a game. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
To be honest Charlse I do think your being harsh, but not because of what you say about games, simply because we have no information about these mythical people who committed suicide over dD. Suicide is pretty drastic and a person needs to be in a fairly extreme position to contemplate it seriously, and the same arguemenet could be made for murder. If some mythical DD player did commit suicide or murder, I'd wager there was rather more going on and a rather more complex reason involved than just because of DD That is why I mentioned DD being a social activity sinse a lot of causes for that sort of action tend to be about people's interactions. I'd suggest myself that if a DD player did! commit suicide, those who ascribe DD as a single cause are over simplifying in the extreme, like those people who blaime all society's problems on alcohol, or comunism, or tv, or insert favourite bad influence. Indeed, sinse all of this sounds pretty speculatory anyway I'm not entirely sure myself if this isn't scare mongering anyway. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Agreed! DD is not evil! it's just a flippin' game, peoples! No more or less bad than any other game, in terms of social impact. On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: To be honest Charlse I do think your being harsh, but not because of what you say about games, simply because we have no information about these mythical people who committed suicide over dD. Suicide is pretty drastic and a person needs to be in a fairly extreme position to contemplate it seriously, and the same arguemenet could be made for murder. If some mythical DD player did commit suicide or murder, I'd wager there was rather more going on and a rather more complex reason involved than just because of DD That is why I mentioned DD being a social activity sinse a lot of causes for that sort of action tend to be about people's interactions. I'd suggest myself that if a DD player did! commit suicide, those who ascribe DD as a single cause are over simplifying in the extreme, like those people who blaime all society's problems on alcohol, or comunism, or tv, or insert favourite bad influence. Indeed, sinse all of this sounds pretty speculatory anyway I'm not entirely sure myself if this isn't scare mongering anyway. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike,some observations, and Suggestions People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:30 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Well, I for one don't believe roll playing games like Dungeons and Dragons is evil in a religious sense, but I do know and understand where that system of beliefs comes from having been brought up in a Christian faith as a child. The basis of religious believers calling DD evil comes from a verse in Deuteronomy of not being partakers of witchcraft, magic, familiar spirits, etc. Basically, many Christians take that to mean that any participation in magic or the occult be it real or fantasy is forbidden and call fiction like Harry Potter or games like DD evil accordingly. Myself I strongly feel that view is taken out of context and there is a world of difference of actually practicing the occult and merely reading a story about it or playing a game. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Dark, Me thinks you are a few cans short of a six pack yourself. I do not intend to define what a few is since it is obvious it is more than one and is less than six. Plus logger, which you misspelled, is a type of beer. So listing beer and logger in the same sentence is a bit redundant. Might have been better to use ale instead as it is also a beer but a different type of beer. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, A few cans short of a sixpack Well, sinse a sixpack by deffinition holds six cans, (whether of beer, larga, coke or whatever), then how many is a few? it cannot be one sinse the words cans is used implying it is a plaural, however it cannot be two sinse there are already collective plaurals for two, eg, a pair, a couple which could've been used instead of the collective A few If however it is three cans, then we run into a basic deffinitional problem sinse logically three is half of six and therefore Half a sixpack however by deffinition a half is a proportionately large amount, and therefore the categorical opposite of a few. So, is it indeed possible to be a few cans short of a sixpack? Perhaps it is this logical impossibility which promotes the metaphore for insanity, sinse by deffinition if nobody can ever be! a few cans short of a sixpack and yet someone is, it implies a severe imbalance in the world sinse quantities with no deffinition have been involved, hence why such people who might be described as A few cans short of a sixpack are seen as insane or mad, though whether they were mad before being described by such utterly nonsensical and mathematically incomprehensible analogies or whether such analogies applied to them have caused a severe mentil disconnection from reality through being described by quantities that cannot possibly exist is not clear. Disclaimer! the above analysis may well be a complete and utter load of dingo's kidneys aand just exist for completely pointless amusement value. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Dark, As you said you were raised with a different type of mentality. Certainly the religious fundamentalism that is so popular here in the US isn't as prevalent over in the UK which makes the world of difference when discussing topics like fantasy and games. The issue here is that fundamentalists are often very literal minded about scriptural interpretation . They attempt to apply concepts and ideas written down 2,000 or more ago to a modern day framework which doesn't always work to my way of thinking. For example, the verse in Deuteronomy often quoted to declare games like dungeons and Dragons as evil is actually talking about worship and practicing the occult in a very literal sense. It isn't talking about books, games, or anything like that. I doubt the concept of playing a game like Dungeons and Dragons were on the author's minds since it hadn't been created yet. Therefore applying that verse to games in a modern context makes little sense as a group of college kids sitting around a table playing DD aren't literally casting spells or worshipping pagan gods. They are just rolling dice and playing along with an adventure story. In short, like you said for me playing a game like DD and practicing witchcraft in the real world are in two different categories mentally. I do not confuse the two, nor do I think one has any bearing on the other. However, to a religious fundamentalist they make no distinctions like that and apply scripture to all references of the occult real and imaginary. Even if the scripture in question doesn't really apply to that situation. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I understand where the believe comes from, but having been at least bought up a christian with a very different mentality it has just plane never made sense to me on a religious or personal level. I will admit the first time i met a practicing pagan (actually secretary of the British Wicken association), who freely and openly talked about spells i was a little disquieted, but when she explained that in pagan belief a spell is simply a practical or symbolic method of praying it made a lot more sense, indeed according to her a spell could be as simple as pouring your troubles into a cup of water and pouring them out on the ground. Again though her beliefs I don't particularly see as having anything to do with harry potter, DD or anything else anymore than I see the clerric's god enspired spells in DD having any baring on real religious practices at all, the two things are just in entirely separate compartments mentally which is why I find the idea of people who confuse the two utterly strange. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi Dark, LOL. You are right. I also misspelled lager. In any case the primary difference between lager and ale is how it is brewed. I also think, but am not certain, they also use different grains. Whatever the case lager and ale taste quite a bit different. As for rum and whiskey you must have a cast iron stomach. I can't drink either one of those without throwing up. I hate that stuff. Beer doesn't bother me. Wine doesn't bother me. However, give me a couple shots of Jack Daniel's and I'll puke my guts out for a month. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. logger? I thought a logger was someone who choppsed down trees. I did check the spelling and I meant lager. I'm not sure of the differences sinse I am quite aware lager is a type of beer, but often in Britain beers and lagers are distinguished by those who drink them, especially locally brewed beers and those who are in the real ale briggade. Don't ask me, on the rare occasions I do drink alcohol I much prefer a good quality wisky or a propper dark rum, or indeed a decent coctale. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
