Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
License means my right to use the software, which is different from the software itself. Its my understanding that it only matters if you can transfer a license for a product you do not have redistribution rights for already. In such a case, you could give the product, your activation (because this usually applies to commercial software) and everything else that came with the product to another person, thus transferring all the rights you had to them and sacrificing them yourself. Because I can distribute the software itself, I don't need to have a transferable license. Hope that helps. John P.S: Amazingly, I've actually seen a few pieces of software who do provide simple versions of licenses and/or other legal documents. They're one of my favorite legal things to run across. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter You might be right. But the first part is confusing. It says that you are granted a personal license. It also mentions that the license is nondistributable. You are hereby granted a personal, non-transferable and non-sublicenseable, nonexclusive, world-wide, royalty free copyright license. I wish the documentation would state things in plain layman's English rather than using confusing legalese. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
Its not alegal, there is already a link somewhere, if its for pc its not completed. if its for android it does not work on newer devices, I havn't heard any more from jerek though for ages now. Its why there is no news or anything. At 02:35 p.m. 13/10/2014, you wrote: That might be illegal. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter I've got the English version lying around, and can upload if its really needed. That said, I believe the download link was posted a few times on audiogames.net; it may be worth a look there. -- From: mikolaj holysz miki123...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:16 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter I have the full version. It was the first part and it was released for free. Unfortunately you can't play it because it is in polish. I don't have the english version the polish version can be downloaded from www.sercezimy.pl W dniu 2014-10-11 09:36, ishan dhami pisze: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
well the fact jerek basically told me himself that when the application for testers came out the link was there, so at least part1 can be downloaded I don't think he cares if others make more links to it. Its incomplete anyway. At 03:36 p.m. 13/10/2014, you wrote: You might be right. But the first part is confusing. It says that you are granted a personal license. It also mentions that the license is nondistributable. You are hereby granted a personal, non-transferable and non-sublicenseable, nonexclusive, world-wide, royalty free copyright license. I wish the documentation would state things in plain layman's English rather than using confusing legalese. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
Hi Ishan, As far as I am aware the game is only available for people living in New Zealand. So you'll have to wait until the developer decides to make a global release of the game. Asking someone to just give it to you might be illegal or go against the developer's wishes. On 10/11/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
I have the full version. It was the first part and it was released for free. Unfortunately you can't play it because it is in polish. I don't have the english version the polish version can be downloaded from www.sercezimy.pl W dniu 2014-10-11 09:36, ishan dhami pisze: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
The game is available through the app store for iDevices, and, as my account is in the United States, I'm thinking that the game is in English. At least, I hope it is, because I just downloaded it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter Hi Ishan, As far as I am aware the game is only available for people living in New Zealand. So you'll have to wait until the developer decides to make a global release of the game. Asking someone to just give it to you might be illegal or go against the developer's wishes. On 10/11/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
I've got the English version lying around, and can upload if its really needed. That said, I believe the download link was posted a few times on audiogames.net; it may be worth a look there. -- From: mikolaj holysz miki123...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:16 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter I have the full version. It was the first part and it was released for free. Unfortunately you can't play it because it is in polish. I don't have the english version the polish version can be downloaded from www.sercezimy.pl W dniu 2014-10-11 09:36, ishan dhami pisze: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
That might be illegal. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter I've got the English version lying around, and can upload if its really needed. That said, I believe the download link was posted a few times on audiogames.net; it may be worth a look there. -- From: mikolaj holysz miki123...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:16 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter I have the full version. It was the first part and it was released for free. Unfortunately you can't play it because it is in polish. I don't have the english version the polish version can be downloaded from www.sercezimy.pl W dniu 2014-10-11 09:36, ishan dhami pisze: Hi please share the game 1812 hard of winter also share the keystrokes and story. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
I'm going to presume you haven't read the license for the game and are making that comment as a somewhat uninformed statement about distributing software in general, and not as an implication that I'm performing illegal activity. Just to clear up any lingering doubt, I'll paste the relevant portions of the license hear for you: You are hereby granted a personal, non-transferable and non-sublicenseable, nonexclusive, world-wide, royalty free copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense the program examples and applications (1812 Heart of Winter) and any such derivative works, in source code and object code form. Looks like I'm clear on that front. Redistribution. If you choose to distribute this application or any derivative works thereof in a commercial product, you must defend and indemnify all authors, developers, licensors, and distributors of 1812 Heart of Winter against any losses, damages and costs arising from claims, lawsuits and other legal actions (excluding actions based on intellectual property infringement claims) brought by a third party against the Indemnified Parties to the extent caused by your acts or omissions in connection with your distribution. Regardless of whether your distribution is a commercial product or not, the license under which you redistribute 1812 Heart of Winter or any derivative works thereof must: effectively disclaim on behalf of all authors, developers, licensors, and distributors all warranties and conditions, express and implied, including warranties or conditions of title and non-infringement, and implied warranties or conditions of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose; effectively exclude on behalf of all authors, developers, licensors, and distributors all liability for damages, including direct, indirect, special, punitive, incidental and consequential damages, such as lost profits; state that any provisions which differ from this license are offered by you alone and not by any other party; and require that the license under which any subsequent distribution of 1812 Heart of Winter or derivative works thereof is made satisfy the terms of this section. I hear by state that, if by redistributing this software, for the intent of providing a convenience to a specific individual, if I am sued, I will not hold the developers of the software liable. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter That might be illegal. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 1812 hard of winter
You might be right. But the first part is confusing. It says that you are granted a personal license. It also mentions that the license is nondistributable. You are hereby granted a personal, non-transferable and non-sublicenseable, nonexclusive, world-wide, royalty free copyright license. I wish the documentation would state things in plain layman's English rather than using confusing legalese. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.