Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Sabahattin,

Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been
spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the
list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might
have given some people here some false sense of security given that he
forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I
do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to
make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake
message to the list.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-15 Thread Josh

maybe they'll disconnect his internet?

using windows7 laptop

On 12/15/2013 9:09 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Sabahattin,

Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been
spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the
list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might
have given some people here some false sense of security given that he
forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I
do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to
make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake
message to the list.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-15 Thread Chris H

Hi
i was going to suggest this, put us all on emergency moderation until 
this has all been stopped, i am not playing moderator here, just 
offering a suggestion. Regards Chris.


On 15/12/2013 14:09, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Sabahattin,

Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been
spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the
list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might
have given some people here some false sense of security given that he
forged my name and my address just like everyone else. In any case I
do think I might want to put the list on emergency moderation just to
make sure this slimeball doesn't get a chance to send one more fake
message to the list.

Cheers!

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[Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the list. I am 
taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. There should be no 
more messages like this coming to the list. Consider all these topics closed, 
lets get back to gaming!
Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Thomas and all,

Just to let you know, I've reported all the ones I've received to Linode, which 
our illustrious friend has been using to forge mail.  I hope that they hang it 
upside down by its naughty bits until it begs for forgiveness.

Cheers,
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[Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the list. I am 
taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. There should be no 
more messages like this coming to the list. Consider all these topics closed, 
lets get back to gaming!
Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
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gamers@audyssey.org

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Stephen

and pour honey all over it and hang it above an ant's nest
At 02:09 PM 12/15/2013, you wrote:

Thomas and all,

Just to let you know, I've reported all the ones I've received to 
Linode, which our illustrious friend has been using to forge 
mail.  I hope that they hang it upside down by its naughty bits 
until it begs for forgiveness.


Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Stephen
Not for the first time either.  He's done something similar with a 
couple yahoo and Freelists groups too.

At 10:14 AM 12/15/2013, you wrote:

Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the 
list. I am taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator 
status. There should be no more messages like this coming to the 
list. Consider all these topics closed, lets get back to gaming!

Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
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gamers@audyssey.org

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a 
forgery.

BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem and are 
taking the necessary corrective steps.

Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of these 
creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Scott Chesworth
Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
different view will probably get you out of the loop.

Hope it helps someone

Scott

On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a
 forgery.

 BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem and
 are taking the necessary corrective steps.

 Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of these
 creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
You say he, so that means you know someone, or something. And you said 
that this person did it before? Would you be willing to tell us who it 
is, either in private or in public? And, I you cannot reveal the 
person's name, can you state a legit reason?

Thank you very much.
On 12/14/2013 7:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Not for the first time either.  He's done something similar with a 
couple yahoo and Freelists groups too.

At 10:14 AM 12/15/2013, you wrote:

Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the 
list. I am taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator 
status. There should be no more messages like this coming to the 
list. Consider all these topics closed, lets get back to gaming!

Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List
gamers@audyssey.org

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
Sometimes spammers can pretend to report themselves and act like they 
are getting rid of the problem just so they can psyche you out.

On 12/14/2013 7:52 PM, Stephen wrote:

and pour honey all over it and hang it above an ant's nest
At 02:09 PM 12/15/2013, you wrote:

Thomas and all,

Just to let you know, I've reported all the ones I've received to 
Linode, which our illustrious friend has been using to forge mail.  I 
hope that they hang it upside down by its naughty bits until it begs 
for forgiveness.


Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Dallas O'Brien
the thing about those emails restart looping nvda,  is not true if you
are using espeak. i think you'll find that it going into the restart
loop may have something to do with running a certain synth that
legally isn't sposed to be used with nvda. lol. eloquence. espeak
doesn't do this.
dallas


On 15/12/2013, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
 aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
 into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
 your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
 different view will probably get you out of the loop.

 Hope it helps someone

 Scott

 On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a
 forgery.

 BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem
 and
 are taking the necessary corrective steps.

 Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of
 these
 creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

 Cheers,
 Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
I use Mozilla Thunderbirds, so I am not sure how Trojans work here. I am 
not sure how NVDA was warped into looping.

On 12/14/2013 8:21 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote:

Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
different view will probably get you out of the loop.

Hope it helps someone

Scott

On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:

Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a
forgery.

BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem and
are taking the necessary corrective steps.

Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of these
creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
If it is Linux-node-related, I heard that the system has had major 
security flaws costing them tons of bit coins. Still, how would someone 
from Linode be smart enough to know what everyone was doing? I have not 
been hacked because I rarely post on the list.

On 12/14/2013 8:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a 
forgery.

BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem and are 
taking the necessary corrective steps.

Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of these 
creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
Is it that eh be he s d a y thing that forces eloquence to crash, or the 
h apostrophe d apostrophe v e? I got tons of those messages but I use 
Nuance so I escaped those traps.

On 12/14/2013 8:35 PM, Dallas O'Brien wrote:

the thing about those emails restart looping nvda,  is not true if you
are using espeak. i think you'll find that it going into the restart
loop may have something to do with running a certain synth that
legally isn't sposed to be used with nvda. lol. eloquence. espeak
doesn't do this.
dallas


On 15/12/2013, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:

Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
different view will probably get you out of the loop.

Hope it helps someone

Scott

On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:

Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a
forgery.

BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem
and
are taking the necessary corrective steps.

Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of
these
creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Scott Chesworth
Oh, that's a good call. Damn, busted by trying to be helpful hahaha.

Scott


On 12/15/13, Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com wrote:
 the thing about those emails restart looping nvda,  is not true if you
 are using espeak. i think you'll find that it going into the restart
 loop may have something to do with running a certain synth that
 legally isn't sposed to be used with nvda. lol. eloquence. espeak
 doesn't do this.
 dallas


 On 15/12/2013, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
 aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
 into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
 your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
 different view will probably get you out of the loop.

 Hope it helps someone

 Scott

 On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was a
 forgery.

 BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem
 and
 are taking the necessary corrective steps.

 Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of
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 creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Bryan Peterson
Good thing I saw this as I was just on the point of writing into the list 
about it. I hope none of you got any of these messages from me. Smile. The 
last time te list got hacked or whatever I supposedly wrote in looking 
desperately for homosexual adventures. That was definitely embarrassing to 
say the least. LOL.




They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:14 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the list. I 
am taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. There should 
be no more messages like this coming to the list. Consider all these topics 
closed, lets get back to gaming!

Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
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gamers@audyssey.org

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Mike wassel
Still though, you guys do realize that writing to the list about a problem that 
we all see is pointless right? All that does is clutter up all of our inboxes 
with more crap.
Mike.


On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

 Good thing I saw this as I was just on the point of writing into the list 
 about it. I hope none of you got any of these messages from me. Smile. The 
 last time te list got hacked or whatever I supposedly wrote in looking 
 desperately for homosexual adventures. That was definitely embarrassing to 
 say the least. LOL.
 
 
 
 They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
 -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward
 Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:14 PM
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!
 
 Hey all,
 It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the list. I 
 am taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. There should 
 be no more messages like this coming to the list. Consider all these topics 
 closed, lets get back to gaming!
 Thank You.
 Sincerely:
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 15 Dec 2013, at 04:38, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 If it is Linux-node-related, I heard that the system has had major security 
 flaws costing them tons of bit coins. Still, how would someone from Linode be 
 smart enough to know what everyone was doing? I have not been hacked because 
 I rarely post on the list.

Sorry, your question is really confusing.

I noticed something wrong because my rules were firing constantly, which is 
pretty hard to ignore when you're trying to sleep.  All I had to do was look at 
the emails, see that they were obviously out of character, read the trace 
fields, and find the common thread of email coming from Linode (a cloud/virtual 
server provider).  Then I wrote to the Linode abuse desk, including a copy of 
one out of every five of the emails with the note to the effect that I'd like 
something done about it, and left them to it.  I didn't get back to sleep. :)

Not sure what this bit about bitcoin is.  The only bitcoin harvest I know about 
is various online wallets, and also the cryptolocker scourge currently getting 
Windows users.

I don't think anybody on the list is in danger, it's just a stupid person 
forging the sender.  The sender is how the list manager Authenticates 
postings.

I hope that helps somehow.

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Dallas O'Brien
meh, not a problem. it's just that usually, if there is a crashing
problem with a screen reader in certain text, it's 99 percent of the
time, eloquence. lol. it's just showing it's age, really. still
fantastic for reading with though. amazing really, when you considder
that eloquence is actually not that good a synth. it's just got
something right, when it comes to reading stuff.
anyways, on with my game. lol.
dallas


On 15/12/2013, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, that's a good call. Damn, busted by trying to be helpful hahaha.

 Scott


 On 12/15/13, Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com wrote:
 the thing about those emails restart looping nvda,  is not true if you
 are using espeak. i think you'll find that it going into the restart
 loop may have something to do with running a certain synth that
 legally isn't sposed to be used with nvda. lol. eloquence. espeak
 doesn't do this.
 dallas


 On 15/12/2013, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another quick FYI. If you're curious enough to read a few messages, be
 aware that any fake Philip Bennefall ones seem to throw NVDA 2013.3
 into a constant restart loop here. If you're reading in a browser and
 your web interface has access keys, hitting any of those to get to a
 different view will probably get you out of the loop.

 Hope it helps someone

 Scott

 On 12/15/13, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Just FYI, that thread wasn't actually started by Thomas.  It, too, was
 a
 forgery.

 BTW, Linode seem to have figured out that there might just be a problem
 and
 are taking the necessary corrective steps.

 Here's one definite positive for forums: you can erase the history of
 these
 creatures.  While I'm disposed to a good laugh, that was very unfunny.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
A question...If you are going to use technical jargon to explain your 
point, could you also explain those terms for those who are not familiar 
with networking and put it in a concrete manner so that we are all on 
the same page and it will not be as overwhelming?
What I meant is, Linode has faced security problems before. This was OT 
the first time.
How did you track down the headers? Can sou use that with Thunderbirds 
or do you have to use some inaccessible site? I use Hot Mail for e-mail.

On 12/14/2013 8:52 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

On 15 Dec 2013, at 04:38, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:

If it is Linux-node-related, I heard that the system has had major security 
flaws costing them tons of bit coins. Still, how would someone from Linode be 
smart enough to know what everyone was doing? I have not been hacked because I 
rarely post on the list.

Sorry, your question is really confusing.

I noticed something wrong because my rules were firing constantly, which is 
pretty hard to ignore when you're trying to sleep.  All I had to do was look at 
the emails, see that they were obviously out of character, read the trace 
fields, and find the common thread of email coming from Linode (a cloud/virtual 
server provider).  Then I wrote to the Linode abuse desk, including a copy of 
one out of every five of the emails with the note to the effect that I'd like 
something done about it, and left them to it.  I didn't get back to sleep. :)

Not sure what this bit about bitcoin is.  The only bitcoin harvest I know about 
is various online wallets, and also the cryptolocker scourge currently getting 
Windows users.

I don't think anybody on the list is in danger, it's just a stupid person forging the 
sender.  The sender is how the list manager Authenticates postings.

I hope that helps somehow.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
I am a member and supporter of the LgBTQIA community. 
http://www.blind-lgbt-pride.org/ But I do have to agree that it was just 
a little too...I don't know.

On 12/14/2013 8:49 PM, Mike tassel wrote:

Still though, you guys do realize that writing to the list about a problem that 
we all see is pointless right? All that does is clutter up all of our inboxes 
with more crap.
Mike.


On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:


Good thing I saw this as I was just on the point of writing into the list about 
it. I hope none of you got any of these messages from me. Smile. The last time 
te list got hacked or whatever I supposedly wrote in looking desperately for 
homosexual adventures. That was definitely embarrassing to say the least. LOL.



They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:14 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the list. I am 
taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. There should be no 
more messages like this coming to the list. Consider all these topics closed, 
lets get back to gaming!
Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List
gamers@audyssey.org

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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 15 Dec 2013, at 05:13, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 A question...If you are going to use technical jargon to explain your point, 
 could you also explain those terms for those who are not familiar with 
 networking and put it in a concrete manner so that we are all on the same 
 page and it will not be as overwhelming?

Of course.  Why didn't you ask? :)

 What I meant is, Linode has faced security problems before. This was OT the 
 first time.

I'm still confused by your obsession with Linode.  Let's just start from the 
top.

Linode takes money from customers in exchange for space on their servers to run 
whatever they want.  A customer can send spam, and Linode is obliged, socially, 
to do something about it.  Otherwise, regardless of what Linode does, it's no 
concern of ours.  If Linode persistently fail to be sociable, by refusing 
spammers and other parasites, then we just start blocking them outright on our 
own servers or routers.  That's it.  I have no other involvement with them, and 
I don't want any.  Simply put, their customers are their problem.

Google search on Linode security turns up this:
https://blog.linode.com/2013/04/16/security-incident-update/

Is this what you were talking about?  Very nasty, and if it somehow leads to 
freeloaders, very, very bad for Linode.  But again, unless you know something I 
don't :) , not my problem.

And yes, the whole thread is OT. :)

 How did you track down the headers? Can sou use that with Thunderbirds or do 
 you have to use some inaccessible site? I use Hot Mail for e-mail.

I'm using Mail.app in OS X, and I default to showing all headers always.  How 
you do it in Hotmail is something you'll have to find out in Microsoft's 
documentation.  The headers at the top of each message include the Received 
headers, which show the path an email takes through email servers.  The IP 
address of our Linode customer was in the header written by the list server, 
showing that the customer spammed the list server directly.

We should probably continue this privately if you have further questions.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!

2013-12-14 Thread Charles Rivard

Or just send the info to the list owner/moderator.

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- Original Message - 
From: Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ATTENTION: Moderator Notice!


You say he, so that means you know someone, or something. And you said 
that this person did it before? Would you be willing to tell us who it is, 
either in private or in public? And, I you cannot reveal the person's 
name, can you state a legit reason?

Thank you very much.
On 12/14/2013 7:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Not for the first time either.  He's done something similar with a couple 
yahoo and Freelists groups too.

At 10:14 AM 12/15/2013, you wrote:

Hey all,
It has come to my attention that someone finds it funny to spam the 
list. I am taking precautions and placing everyone on moderator status. 
There should be no more messages like this coming to the list. Consider 
all these topics closed, lets get back to gaming!

Thank You.
Sincerely:
Thomas Ward
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gamers@audyssey.org

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