Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though one interesting fact in beatemup terms is that for everyone the casual beatemup is sort of a thing of the past. After all when I was growing up it was quite possible to walk into an arcade or a friends house and pick up something like mortal combat, streetfighter 2, double dragon etc, and within only a short time of playing with the controls and knowing special moves have a vague idea how to play. Of course, you'd always lose to a more experienced opponent, but the basic jumps, kicks, punches and even most of the specials were fairly easy to pull off. With modern beatemup series like blazblu, guilty gear, soul calibur etc, the shear complexity of the system, the numbers of super moves, special blocks, dodges etc mean that for anyone! there isn't much chance of doing any good without investigating first, indeed among people who I know who are serious beatemup fans this has become a major concern. Of course, add on blindness to that and your increasing that learning factor by a ridiculous amount, plus the more casual games that are intended for pickup and play in groups such as marrio party, Wii sports, animal crossing and to a certain extent pokemon just are none starters. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
I think the problem today isn't so much the game complexity, more the interinteraction complexity. I've seen a few slogans in my time and the best one I've seen is simple to learn difficult to master. The simple to learn bit should be the game interface. The difficult to master should be the game itself not the interface. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 10 December 2013 13:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though one interesting fact in beatemup terms is that for everyone the casual beatemup is sort of a thing of the past. After all when I was growing up it was quite possible to walk into an arcade or a friends house and pick up something like mortal combat, streetfighter 2, double dragon etc, and within only a short time of playing with the controls and knowing special moves have a vague idea how to play. Of course, you'd always lose to a more experienced opponent, but the basic jumps, kicks, punches and even most of the specials were fairly easy to pull off. With modern beatemup series like blazblu, guilty gear, soul calibur etc, the shear complexity of the system, the numbers of super moves, special blocks, dodges etc mean that for anyone! there isn't much chance of doing any good without investigating first, indeed among people who I know who are serious beatemup fans this has become a major concern. Of course, add on blindness to that and your increasing that learning factor by a ridiculous amount, plus the more casual games that are intended for pickup and play in groups such as marrio party, Wii sports, animal crossing and to a certain extent pokemon just are none starters. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Chess is a game that applies here. ,simple to learn, but hard to excell at. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I think the problem today isn't so much the game complexity, more the interinteraction complexity. I've seen a few slogans in my time and the best one I've seen is simple to learn difficult to master. The simple to learn bit should be the game interface. The difficult to master should be the game itself not the interface. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 10 December 2013 13:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though one interesting fact in beatemup terms is that for everyone the casual beatemup is sort of a thing of the past. After all when I was growing up it was quite possible to walk into an arcade or a friends house and pick up something like mortal combat, streetfighter 2, double dragon etc, and within only a short time of playing with the controls and knowing special moves have a vague idea how to play. Of course, you'd always lose to a more experienced opponent, but the basic jumps, kicks, punches and even most of the specials were fairly easy to pull off. With modern beatemup series like blazblu, guilty gear, soul calibur etc, the shear complexity of the system, the numbers of super moves, special blocks, dodges etc mean that for anyone! there isn't much chance of doing any good without investigating first, indeed among people who I know who are serious beatemup fans this has become a major concern. Of course, add on blindness to that and your increasing that learning factor by a ridiculous amount, plus the more casual games that are intended for pickup and play in groups such as marrio party, Wii sports, animal crossing and to a certain extent pokemon just are none starters. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Dark: Exactly. Although, Wii Sports is arguable. I have played Wii Sports with little difficulty so that game at least is arguably more accessible than most games, but I take your point about most pick up and play games are non-staarters if you are blind. On 12/10/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though one interesting fact in beatemup terms is that for everyone the casual beatemup is sort of a thing of the past. After all when I was growing up it was quite possible to walk into an arcade or a friends house and pick up something like mortal combat, streetfighter 2, double dragon etc, and within only a short time of playing with the controls and knowing special moves have a vague idea how to play. Of course, you'd always lose to a more experienced opponent, but the basic jumps, kicks, punches and even most of the specials were fairly easy to pull off. With modern beatemup series like blazblu, guilty gear, soul calibur etc, the shear complexity of the system, the numbers of super moves, special blocks, dodges etc mean that for anyone! there isn't much chance of doing any good without investigating first, indeed among people who I know who are serious beatemup fans this has become a major concern. Of course, add on blindness to that and your increasing that learning factor by a ridiculous amount, plus the more casual games that are intended for pickup and play in groups such as marrio party, Wii sports, animal crossing and to a certain extent pokemon just are none starters. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Shaun: Interesting. That sounds like it was real fun. I haven't had anything like that lately either. However, it goes back to what I said earlier on the list. It all depends on the people you know and hang with. Some people really love board games, others are into video games, and some don't play either one just because they are too busy or just not interested If there is a college or university near by you can sometimes find clubs in your area that get together and that can be a good way to associate with people your own age. Unfortunately, I live in a little one-horse town, no colleges, universities, etc so that option isn't open to me as far as I know, but back when I lived in Dayton there were all kinds of groups to join where I could play board games, RPG games, video games, etc. There were local Chess clubs, and there were places to go play Bingo and so on. Point being if you wanted to I am sure there are places to go and play that sort of thing. Cheers! On 12/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well speaking of memmories tom, I was on holiday about 4 years back with several friends. At nights we would have monopoly tourniments lasting the entire holiday. Games would go from 6 till midnight and beyond. One day we got oup late due to one of such games having meals at weird times only to get back into the game again and go all night. That sadly has all gone for the most part. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Fair enough Tom. I admit while I've briefly played a couple of the Wii sports games it's not something I've done as frequently or know as much about as I do beatemups so my assessment on the complexities of picking the thing up and playing without sight might be off. Beware the Grue! Ark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well mar-dy have not been forthcoming with codes as of late but on a more serious issue, though the game does run on my win7 machine in admin mode I do get errors with html modules and game does not run right. I wish I knew before I spent the cash on it. At 03:47 AM 12/5/2013, you wrote: One computer game that has been referred to as sort of like Monopoly on steroids is Mississippi. Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Shaun: Hmm...I don't know of that game specifically, but there have been many clones of Monopoly out there. One of my favorites was a game called Hotels where you went around the world building famous hotels. It was a lot cooler than Monopoly, but unfortunately I no longer have a copy of that game since my wife absconded with it. In any case I disagree with you that computer games are inherently superior to the board games themselves. Yeah, we can play them ourselves, but there is much to recommend an actual board game over a computer game. For one thing if you have family to play them with it gives you and the family a chance to sit down and interact with one another. Something that is really missing in today's society. Another thing is board games gives us something tactile to feel. Most games comes with plastic or metal figures we can feel to get an idea of what they look like. We can feel the little plastic ships, buildings, and other things which gives us something more than just our imagination to go on. You are probably right to a point that many younger people are less and less interested in card and board games and are addicted to console and PC games. I blame their parents for that as it is up to the parents to teach their children balance. While I have purchased a Wii for my son and he plays a lot of video games I also have made sure to give him standard games like Monopoly, Trouble, Sorry, etc as I think it is important that he learns to enjoy both the way I did growing up. Cheers! On 12/3/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: One of the games I still miss was based on the monopoly concept. You were trying to become the presidant of a company. if you failed you would become the cleaner. It was visual but I got materials and designed a board with cardboard and foil and with some braille dice and cards and some monopoly tokens was able to play. The game was called ulsas but I never played it more than twice before things got hectic. To be honest, I played all my games before 2000, before 1995 for 5 years I had almost no pc and then only a 386. in 1996 I got a pc but still was able to play. after 2002 or there abouts that got less till now. I have an xp system and a win7 system. everyone has tablets and phones. I think if there was a way to turn off all devices and the net I'd do it again. But there is email, social network, online games and sometimes I find myself just happily mucking round on youtube or slothing round on the pc when I know I shouldn't. I have tried to keep my reading alive but the scary thing is I could happily stop reading braille in fact stop doing everything I used to do when taught how to be blind to use the net. It may actually happen with others. Family that used to have time to play afterwork are so tired after looking at a screen all day they want to blob.Ofcause computer games are ofcause more superior than the crappy board ones, yet I still miss it. When the only thing you could hear would be the weather outside, when all you did in the next hour or less was get another coffee. That doesn't happen so much. And sadly a lot born into this age of consoles and other things may never play a game in their lives. I know, my cousins were born into the borg universe. They adapted a lot. They have played a few ugio games and some monopoly but most of it is simply the computer. They would probably play all night and day if they were not told to get off their consoles. Its why I made an effort to stay off social networks but much as I have tried, most of what I do is to be online all day and all night. Something new always comes up and when there isn't I end up mucking round chewing bandwidth listening to stupid vids, but not being able to get off again really. Some days
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Dark, Well, you are absolutely right it all depends on the group in question and the game at hand. I have never had the fortune of meeting anyone in my area would sit down with me and play a game of Jim Kitchen's Life or Monopoly, but I have been able to find some people who will sit down and play the standard board games with me. It seems to me a brailed board game with print and braille is the best and most universal way for us as blind and low vision gamers to play along with our sighted friends and family as equals rather than just tagging along. I know some gamers here and on Audiogames.net have become masters at fighting games for XBox and Play Station, can hold their own against sighted opponents, but that someone is not me. So while I suppose I could invite people over to play Play Station or XBox I am not that good at it to really get much pleasure out of it the way some people do. Moreover it takes a lot of practice and work for a blind gamer to compete in such games. A board game I can pick up and begin playing in minutes as long as it is properly accessible and I know the rules where video games require weeks of practice to become decent at let alone a master at. So as you said anyone can pick up a board game and play it out of the box making it a more universal thing. Cheers! On 12/5/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. while I agree that card and board games do have value as games to play with others, at the same time computer games can have a similar feeling provided you have a group of like minded individuals together and provided the game is one that several people can have fun with rather than say a flight sim or complex stratogy game that requires massive attention. I remember the occasion when i still lived in colidge where a couple of friends of mine visited me, but managed to turn up an hour early so I was in the shower. In defference of what to do, I literally yelled instructions through the bathroom door (I was living in one room in colidge with a single attached bathroom), for them to start up Jim Kitchin's game of life, and we played that while I finished my shower. that was hilarious and good fun as well. As well as playing Talisman and King of Tokio, my brother also regularly plays the marrio party games with his friends as well, which are intended as exactly what they say, ie party games, like computerised board games on the Wii. He also has recently bought the new Pokemon game and a 3ds, and when not playing a ccg with his friends they also challenge each other to Pokemon battles. Of course, since my brother is a major CCG player, he knows plenty of people who do that sort of thing, and indeed if the games (of either computerised or not), were accessible odds are I'd do the same more often with my rp friends. It all seems to depend upon the games involved and the group of people and what they choose to do, though I will say where as computer games, even casual ones like marrio party or Jim Kitchin's are something of their own interest, anyone can pick up a good amount of board games and play them out of the box, making them a far more universal thing. That is another reason I'd love to see more accessible interesting games. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well speaking of memmories tom, I was on holiday about 4 years back with several friends. At nights we would have monopoly tourniments lasting the entire holiday. Games would go from 6 till midnight and beyond. One day we got oup late due to one of such games having meals at weird times only to get back into the game again and go all night. That sadly has all gone for the most part. At 09:02 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Charles: I had a similar experience growing up. For many years my mom, some family friends, and I would have game nights every Friday or Saturday night where we would play one card or board game well into the night. Especially during the winter when it was too cold to do anything outside. We played Monopoly, Yahtzee, Poker, Uno, and so on. The thing I remember most is the interaction between everyone. We sat around drinking cups of coffee or hot chocolate, munched on chips, and talked. We told stories, exchanged jokes, and added the occasional tease when someone screwed up or won big. The thing is playing computer games just does not have the community interaction or same fun as playing against human opponents. Cheers! On 12/4/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: One computer game that has been referred to as sort of like Monopoly on steroids is Mississippi. Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Charles: I had a similar experience growing up. For many years my mom, some family friends, and I would have game nights every Friday or Saturday night where we would play one card or board game well into the night. Especially during the winter when it was too cold to do anything outside. We played Monopoly, Yahtzee, Poker, Uno, and so on. The thing I remember most is the interaction between everyone. We sat around drinking cups of coffee or hot chocolate, munched on chips, and talked. We told stories, exchanged jokes, and added the occasional tease when someone screwed up or won big. The thing is playing computer games just does not have the community interaction or same fun as playing against human opponents. Cheers! On 12/4/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: One computer game that has been referred to as sort of like Monopoly on steroids is Mississippi. Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi tom. while I agree that card and board games do have value as games to play with others, at the same time computer games can have a similar feeling provided you have a group of like minded individuals together and provided the game is one that several people can have fun with rather than say a flight sim or complex stratogy game that requires massive attention. I remember the occasion when i still lived in colidge where a couple of friends of mine visited me, but managed to turn up an hour early so I was in the shower. In defference of what to do, I literally yelled instructions through the bathroom door (I was living in one room in colidge with a single attached bathroom), for them to start up Jim Kitchin's game of life, and we played that while I finished my shower. that was hilarious and good fun as well. As well as playing Talisman and King of Tokio, my brother also regularly plays the marrio party games with his friends as well, which are intended as exactly what they say, ie party games, like computerised board games on the Wii. He also has recently bought the new Pokemon game and a 3ds, and when not playing a ccg with his friends they also challenge each other to Pokemon battles. Of course, since my brother is a major CCG player, he knows plenty of people who do that sort of thing, and indeed if the games (of either computerised or not), were accessible odds are I'd do the same more often with my rp friends. It all seems to depend upon the games involved and the group of people and what they choose to do, though I will say where as computer games, even casual ones like marrio party or Jim Kitchin's are something of their own interest, anyone can pick up a good amount of board games and play them out of the box, making them a far more universal thing. That is another reason I'd love to see more accessible interesting games. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
One computer game that has been referred to as sort of like Monopoly on steroids is Mississippi. Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Shaun: Hmm...I don't know of that game specifically, but there have been many clones of Monopoly out there. One of my favorites was a game called Hotels where you went around the world building famous hotels. It was a lot cooler than Monopoly, but unfortunately I no longer have a copy of that game since my wife absconded with it. In any case I disagree with you that computer games are inherently superior to the board games themselves. Yeah, we can play them ourselves, but there is much to recommend an actual board game over a computer game. For one thing if you have family to play them with it gives you and the family a chance to sit down and interact with one another. Something that is really missing in today's society. Another thing is board games gives us something tactile to feel. Most games comes with plastic or metal figures we can feel to get an idea of what they look like. We can feel the little plastic ships, buildings, and other things which gives us something more than just our imagination to go on. You are probably right to a point that many younger people are less and less interested in card and board games and are addicted to console and PC games. I blame their parents for that as it is up to the parents to teach their children balance. While I have purchased a Wii for my son and he plays a lot of video games I also have made sure to give him standard games like Monopoly, Trouble, Sorry, etc as I think it is important that he learns to enjoy both the way I did growing up. Cheers! On 12/3/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: One of the games I still miss was based on the monopoly concept. You were trying to become the presidant of a company. if you failed you would become the cleaner. It was visual but I got materials and designed a board with cardboard and foil and with some braille dice and cards and some monopoly tokens was able to play. The game was called ulsas but I never played it more than twice before things got hectic. To be honest, I played all my games before 2000, before 1995 for 5 years I had almost no pc and then only a 386. in 1996 I got a pc but still was able to play. after 2002 or there abouts that got less till now. I have an xp system and a win7 system. everyone has tablets and phones. I think if there was a way to turn off all devices and the net I'd do it again. But there is email, social network, online games and sometimes I find myself just happily mucking round on youtube or slothing round on the pc when I know I shouldn't. I have tried to keep my reading alive but the scary thing is I could happily stop reading braille in fact stop doing everything I used to do when taught how to be blind to use the net. It may actually happen with others. Family that used to have time to play afterwork are so tired after looking at a screen all day they want to blob.Ofcause computer games are ofcause more superior than the crappy board ones, yet I still miss it. When the only thing you could hear would be the weather outside, when all you did in the next hour or less was get another coffee. That doesn't happen so much. And sadly a lot born into this age of consoles and other things may never play a game in their lives. I know, my cousins were born into the borg universe. They adapted a lot. They have played a few ugio games and some monopoly but most of it is simply the computer. They would probably play all night and day if they were not told to get off their consoles. Its why I made an effort to stay off social networks but much as I have tried, most of what I do is to be online all day and all night. Something new always comes up and when there isn't I end up mucking round chewing bandwidth listening to stupid vids, but not being able to get off again really. Some days like today the net calms down enough for me to think of times gone by. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
