[Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP

2010-03-25 Thread Ann

hello everyone,

I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and 
how to use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I 
ever be a computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very 
interested in this tool which may allow those of us who have no interest 
in becoming computer programmers the ability to create games.


I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this 
list, the statement about my having no interest in actual computer 
programming, I mean..


I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the 
list. I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where 
ninety-nine percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I 
want to have to join and remember to visit some web forum to learn  more 
about his  tool exclusively.


. If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't 
open the emails and read them. Hit the Delete key on any with  BGT in 
the subject line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will 
get a good many of them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run 
across many messages which hold no interest for us, but we deal with it.


Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this 
list. It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in 
a while is to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a 
wonderful new game tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the 
email traffic will slow down yet again.


~Ann T


On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote:

Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY too 
many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I mean is - 
there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you should be 
discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get me wrong - 
this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the lay-person be 
able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is that THIS list 
is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games that Thomas, Phil, 
Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given away for free. What 
tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98% of the emails over the 
last couple of days have only been about how to use Phil's toolkit, how to 
write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE either 
email the developers personally, sign up for the PROGRAMMING list (one of which 
is: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your own list so 
that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that are ALREADY 
DEVELOPED.
Thank you.

Anne W.
sighted audio gamer
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Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP

2010-03-25 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi ann,
Amen to that! There is no actual reason this should be removed from the
list. Those of you who arecomplaining could just as well chosen to complain
about posting topics related to MOTA or Q9, it just so happens it is BGT. I
for one agree, and I do not want to have to go to a forum in order to look
at info about the BGT. I for one have ran across topics that held no
interest for me, it's simple...press delete.
Best regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re:
PLEASE STOP

hello everyone,

I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and 
how to use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I 
ever be a computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very 
interested in this tool which may allow those of us who have no interest 
in becoming computer programmers the ability to create games.

I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this 
list, the statement about my having no interest in actual computer 
programming, I mean..

I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the 
list. I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where 
ninety-nine percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I 
want to have to join and remember to visit some web forum to learn  more 
about his  tool exclusively.

. If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't 
open the emails and read them. Hit the Delete key on any with  BGT in 
the subject line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will 
get a good many of them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run 
across many messages which hold no interest for us, but we deal with it.

Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this 
list. It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in 
a while is to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a 
wonderful new game tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the 
email traffic will slow down yet again.

~Ann T


On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote:
 Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY
too many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I
mean is - there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you
should be discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get
me wrong - this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the
lay-person be able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is
that THIS list is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games
that Thomas, Phil, Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given
away for free. What tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98%
of the emails over the last couple of days have only been about how to use
Phil's toolkit, how to write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE either email the developers personally, sign up for the
PROGRAMMING list (one of which is:
http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your own list so
that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that are ALREADY
DEVELOPED.
 Thank you.

 Anne W.
 sighted audio gamer
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Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP

2010-03-25 Thread Loravara
I would like to agree with this.  I think BGT is highly relevant to this
list.  Please allow discussions to continue; for those not interested, the
delete key works well.

I suspect we've all had to delete messages we weren't interested in.  That's
the beauty of a list; many topics and ideas can be discussed, and you
participate in those that are of interest to you.



-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:24 PM
To: tate...@gmail.com; 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re:
PLEASE STOP

Hi ann,
Amen to that! There is no actual reason this should be removed from the
list. Those of you who arecomplaining could just as well chosen to complain
about posting topics related to MOTA or Q9, it just so happens it is BGT. I
for one agree, and I do not want to have to go to a forum in order to look
at info about the BGT. I for one have ran across topics that held no
interest for me, it's simple...press delete.
Best regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re:
PLEASE STOP

hello everyone,

I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and 
how to use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I 
ever be a computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very 
interested in this tool which may allow those of us who have no interest 
in becoming computer programmers the ability to create games.

I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this 
list, the statement about my having no interest in actual computer 
programming, I mean..

I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the 
list. I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where 
ninety-nine percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I 
want to have to join and remember to visit some web forum to learn  more 
about his  tool exclusively.

. If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't 
open the emails and read them. Hit the Delete key on any with  BGT in 
the subject line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will 
get a good many of them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run 
across many messages which hold no interest for us, but we deal with it.

Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this 
list. It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in 
a while is to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a 
wonderful new game tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the 
email traffic will slow down yet again.

~Ann T


On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote:
 Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY
too many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I
mean is - there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you
should be discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get
me wrong - this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the
lay-person be able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is
that THIS list is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games
that Thomas, Phil, Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given
away for free. What tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98%
of the emails over the last couple of days have only been about how to use
Phil's toolkit, how to write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE either email the developers personally, sign up for the
PROGRAMMING list (one of which is:
http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your own list so
that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that are ALREADY
DEVELOPED.
 Thank you.

 Anne W.
 sighted audio gamer
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Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re: PLEASE STOP

2010-03-25 Thread shaun everiss
so am I.
I am interested in this tool in particular all the new ideas.
I really don't have many nore care to learn how to program, but I enjoy hearing 
them and maybe hearing about playing them getting files audio etc.
However all the single question messages need to go.
Muhammed seems to send a lot of messages no offence but I have noticed this.
At 11:14 a.m. 26/03/2010, you wrote:
hello everyone,

I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and how to 
use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I ever be a 
computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very interested in this 
tool which may allow those of us who have no interest in becoming computer 
programmers the ability to create games.

I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this list, 
the statement about my having no interest in actual computer programming, I 
mean..

I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the list. 
I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where ninety-nine 
percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I want to have to join 
and remember to visit some web forum to learn  more about his  tool 
exclusively.

. If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't open 
the emails and read them. Hit the Delete key on any with  BGT in the subject 
line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will get a good many of 
them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run across many messages which 
hold no interest for us, but we deal with it.

Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this list. 
It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in a while is 
to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a wonderful new game 
tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the email traffic will slow 
down yet again.

~Ann T


On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote:
Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY too 
many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I mean is 
- there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you should be 
discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get me wrong - 
this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the lay-person be 
able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is that THIS list 
is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games that Thomas, Phil, 
Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given away for free. What 
tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98% of the emails over the 
last couple of days have only been about how to use Phil's toolkit, how to 
write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE either 
email the developers personally, sign up for the PROGRAMMING list (one of 
which is: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your
 own list so that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that 
are ALREADY DEVELOPED.
Thank you.

Anne W.
sighted audio gamer
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